ITCHING

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

Hyperthyroidism can cause itching and hives; you have skin receptors for

thyroid hormone in skin that excess thyroid hormone can react on.

Dawn, iodine isn't exclusively absorbed by the thyroid gland, although the

thyroid gland absorbs most iodine; other sites are skeletal muscle, skin,

pancreas, salivary glands, stomach mucosa, breast tissue. Some people with

hyperthyroidism have difficulty tolerating iodine; some people even get

boils, as well as flushing and increased iodine absorption to cell receptors

in the skin. This could account for some of the problems you mentioned.

[Guest guest]

My MD didn't catch my thyroidism at first, either, Kate. It took a thyroid nodule showing up to my gynocologist for my MD to look at it. That's probably because all the thyroid tests that were done before that all came back within normal levels. That's why I don't trust them. I'd had problems with itching, not sleeping, gaining weight and being lethargic for most of my adult life with intermittent periods of time where it would go away and I'd have loads of energy, but lots of tremors, too. My hair got really thin on top after having an overabundance of it for years. I'd also get so itchy that during the winter my areola would actually crack and peel (sorry for the visual!). I'm much better now. The supplement took care of it.

Donna

http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health!

Itching

Hi, Folks,I'm a newbie, just diagnosed as hyperthyroid. Of allof the symptoms bothering me, the worst is itching. Iitch all over my body. My doc has given me sleepingtablets so that I can at least get some sleep, but hesays there's not much else to be done until I have myscan later this week and find out just what's going onwith the ol' thyroid. My concern is this: when Ifirst complained of itching to my doctor, he saidnothing about thyroid. Even after the blood testscame back off the wall, he said nothing about thyroid.Finally, he tells me today it's the thyroid problemcausing the itching. Can anybody clarify this messfor me?--Kate__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Earlier this summer I was diagnosed with

hyperthyroidism. Last week I took the radioactive

iodine capsule to zap my thyroid. Among the symptoms

I have had all summer is itching--all over my body,

constantly. Sometimes it's worse than others, and

it's always worse when I'm trying to go to sleep!

It's driving me crazy!

My doctor gave me sleeping pills so I could get some

rest, but the pills aren't working. ly, I don't

think they worked more than a week, and it's been 3

weeks now. For the last three nights, I have had no

more than 1 or 2 hours of sleep a night.

I am in an HMO. My doctor is on vacation this week.

If I call the advice line, I will be given an

appointment to see the nurse practitioner or

physician's asst. du jour and have to explain

everything I've been through this summer to them.

They never seem to have access to my chart. I've had

it with that routine! But in the meantime, I am

miserable with this itching.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Is this

really a thyroid problem? Help, help!

Thanks,

--Kate

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[Guest guest]

I know what you mean about the itching Kista! Mine is so bad I can

hardly stand it. I too suffer from anal itching which can be very

embarassing. I don't know if it is die off or not. I haven't

actually started on any candida treatment yet, I am waiting until I

see my doctor on Tuesday. He is going to put me on nystatin along

with a diet and special vitamins/hrebs.

Let me know if you find anything to help with the itching.

D

> Hi everyone. I usually just read the post everyday. What is this

> itching peaple are talking about? I have almost unbearable anal

> itching mainly at night. I also keep breaking out in rashes on my

legs

> witch is realy itchy. I've been taking many thing to rid myself of

> candida and/or parasites. Is this die of?

>

> Kista

[Guest guest]

My itching is " down south " and Oregon Grape root capsules (taken by mouth)

has helped me immensely. OGR is an antifungal herb.

moons

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[Guest guest]

Thanks moons. I'll have to try this. I can't stand the itching.

Kista

[Guest guest]

Debby, LoCholest Light works wonders for me. I too clawed myself until I

bled frequently. I am on blood thinner so I bleed easly. Stained clothing

and sheets, etc. It is a prescription and I usually have to take 3 packages

in a glass of water daily for the itch to stop. I continue for about a week

and then I can quit taking it. I itched from the top of my head to the

soles of my feet and night time was the worst. Get a script ASAP and try

it. I was told the itching is caused by billary salts being excreted thru

our pores as our liver can't dispose of the waste properly. The LoCholest

Light powder binds the billary salts and takes them out in waste. Good

luck.

Sylvia - AIH - Las Vegas, NV

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Itch scratch itch scratch! GRRRRRR How do you all stop it? I have used

atarax, tea tree oil, lavender, and they all help...but how do we get it to

totally stop? It is driving me nuts! My head itches, but mostly my hands

and I scratch until I bleed!

debby

[Guest guest]

sylvia, today at school, I was scratching and started to bleed....since the prednisone, I bleed like a stuck pig. Put a bandage over it and it is OK. The thinkg that REALLY gets to me, though are the nosebleeds. I have not had one for a couple of weeks, but sometimes, it takes several minutes to get them stopped!

It is interesting because since reducing the prednisone, I have noticed the itching and swelling increasing greatly. I need to let the doctor know these things, I think.

debby

[ ] Itching 04/12/02 06:53 AM Please respond to Itch scratch itch scratch! GRRRRRR How do you all stop it? I have usedatarax, tea tree oil, lavender, and they all help...but how do we get it tototally stop? It is driving me nuts! My head itches, but mostly my handsand I scratch until I bleed!debby

[Guest guest]

At 20:59 23.04.2002 -0700, you wrote:

> For the past week, every time I sit at the

>computer, I start itching all over....especially my

>face. I thought that it was my nerves or something

>related to candida but the same thing happened to my

>husband today who hardly ever uses the computer. Does

>anyone have any idea what could be going on? Mold or

>dust allergy?

Sounds like radiation allergy!

Try sitting on a longer distance from the screen.

Computer Monitors Increase Release of Mercury Significantly! (if you have

amalgam!)

Gum chewing, grinding of teeth/bruxism, computer terminal exposure, presence of

gold fillings or gold crowns (even if covering mercury fillings), teeth

brushing, braces, and chewing cause the release of significantly increased

amounts of mercury from the fillings.

Espen

[Guest guest]

Aisha, you mention "hive-like" in connection with antihistamine production. The itching most of us have trouble with does not produce any kind rash.

Harper

[Guest guest]

Is it possible it could be yeast from all the antibiotics or some type of

mild allergic reaction to the meds. I would call your doctor and ask..

Robyn In SC

-- [ ] Itching

I've completed 30 days of 200 mg (per day) of Doxycycline for my 3rd

lyme bite. (My first and second bites were in the mid-90s.)

I consider myself very fortunate so far but I have been disturbed by

random itching since around the first week I started on the

doxycycline.

I've completely scrubbed my room, washed bedding and bedclothes very

frequently, shower every night, tried moisturizer, changed soaps,

etc. The only thing I can think of is that this is a lyme symptom or

a result of the antibiotics. I am still testing negative for Western

Bloc, PCR, Babesia Microti IGG/IGM, Lyme WB IGM, Lyme w/RFX.

My lyme symptoms comprised of shooting pains and aching in limbs)

increased substantially on the first few nights after going off the

antibiotics. Fortunately, they have now subsided.

Now it is Day 8 after completing the antibiotics and I am still

dealing with the itches and some random pain in my hands and feet. I

experience this day and night but at night, the itching is much more

disturbing since it interrupts my sleep.

Can anyone comment on the reasons for the itches and what may be

needed? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hi!

My 15-year-old son has horrid itching from time to time...sometime Benadryl

helps.

Good luck!

~Judie

[Guest guest]

I don't know about your case and what medication you may be on now. I do know

that Lyme disease causes a itchy rash in some cases.I also know some medications

can cause this.Just last week I took a pain pill for a tooth extraction.It had

codiene in it and I itched sooooo bad! There was no rash but I itched all over

even in my eyes, nose,and ears. Have you took any Meds? BK

Robyn Greco wrote:

Is it possible it could be yeast from all the antibiotics or some type of

mild allergic reaction to the meds. I would call your doctor and ask..

Robyn In SC

-- [ ] Itching

I've completed 30 days of 200 mg (per day) of Doxycycline for my 3rd

lyme bite. (My first and second bites were in the mid-90s.)

I consider myself very fortunate so far but I have been disturbed by

random itching since around the first week I started on the

doxycycline.

I've completely scrubbed my room, washed bedding and bedclothes very

frequently, shower every night, tried moisturizer, changed soaps,

etc. The only thing I can think of is that this is a lyme symptom or

a result of the antibiotics. I am still testing negative for Western

Bloc, PCR, Babesia Microti IGG/IGM, Lyme WB IGM, Lyme w/RFX.

My lyme symptoms comprised of shooting pains and aching in limbs)

increased substantially on the first few nights after going off the

antibiotics. Fortunately, they have now subsided.

Now it is Day 8 after completing the antibiotics and I am still

dealing with the itches and some random pain in my hands and feet. I

experience this day and night but at night, the itching is much more

disturbing since it interrupts my sleep.

Can anyone comment on the reasons for the itches and what may be

needed? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Thought I would ask you all for help. I was diagnosised with AIH in 1992 and have done well on prednisone. My 29 year old daughter yesterday went to dr. and he placed her on methotrexate, imuran, prednisone, and plaqunil. He thinks she has a UCD. Every test came back normal. She , however, exhibits all signs of lupus. Can not go in sun, fatigue, large tennis size ball swellings on arm and legs only. My question to you all is, has anyone been on all four medicines at once. I myself have take 3 immunosuppresents, prednisone, neoral, and embrel. Am worried about metho and imuran mixed with prednisone. Just thought with all the experience between everyone of you perhaps you could help. Thanks in advance.

Chris

[Guest guest]

This is a p.s. yo my daughter and the medicine. She UCTD. MY typing is bad. Sorry.

[Guest guest]

I am currently on Plaquinel, Prednisone and 6MP, plus a host of other meds for this and that. I don't know what methotrexate is, but have heard of it. Anyway, hope they find out what is wrong with your daughter.

Debby

Re: [ ] Itching

Thought I would ask you all for help. I was diagnosised with AIH in 1992 and have done well on prednisone. My 29 year old daughter yesterday went to dr. and he placed her on methotrexate, imuran, prednisone, and plaqunil. He thinks she has a UCD. Every test came back normal. She , however, exhibits all signs of lupus. Can not go in sun, fatigue, large tennis size ball swellings on arm and legs only. My question to you all is, has anyone been on all four medicines at once. I myself have take 3 immunosuppresents, prednisone, neoral, and embrel. Am worried about metho and imuran mixed with prednisone. Just thought with all the experience between everyone of you perhaps you could help. Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

- I don't suffer itching all over but have isolated rashes appearing here and there so what I was told to do by my GP may not apply to you - the doc told me to buy some baby teething gel (yep you heard right) and I smear it on only when I can't stand any more itching. Good luck.

Jan

[ ] ITCHING

I was told that my itching was due to my alk phos being so high.i have herd so many things it is hard to know what is true. the one thing i know is my itching is so bad most of the time i want to peel of my skin Any tips or pointers would help me out a lot. I was dx in 2000 with AIH and PBC one of the meds i am given is actigall.i was told that it was the salts from bear bile (yes the animal) one of the side effects of it is sever dry skin so as you can guess that dont help.I take 25mg of hydroxazine every 6 hrs but it dont seem to be helping none neither. I was told questran or questran light helped many people. If any of you have tried it let me know please and if it helped. I was told it has some bad side effects.With the prednisone and the actigall.I need no more side effects as im sure you all know.Again if any of you have any kind of help or suggestions on the dreeded itch please let me know. GOD be with you all in kansas..

[Guest guest]

Jerry-

Hmmmm........maybe you should start charging, appears to me you would

get rich with all you answer!

Thanks for the answers. I see my doc and am going to push hard for a

biopsy. Havent had one since 4 days after diagnoses over three years

ago. Every thing that those with PBC suffer, I seem to be

suffering. Not to mention, after all this time you sit and wonder

what is going on in there.

How often do most get biopsies? My doc first said yearly, then said

we need to wait for the liver to cool down to do it. Only to have

him tell me when my LFT's went down he saw no reason to do one. He

said the first was inconclusive because inflammation was at grade

4++, and would be impossible to rate damage at that time. Damage was

only grade 1 in that biopsy. At diagnosis my ALT and AST were at

9,000 and 8,000. Total Bili was 12. They told me it was a miracle I

was alive, let alone concious. They said they had never seen or even

heard of numbers that high, and most they saw close to me were in

coma and died within hours. They repeated the test three times,

because they were sure it was a mistake. All I knew was I was in

serious pain, my head felt like it was going to explode, and I wasn't

just yellow I was this green grey color. (I looked like the DOA's we

used to get on ambulance) I didn't understand how serious these

numbers were until I saw what peoples 'highs' were on this site.

They spoke of transplant back then, but have never discussed it

since, thank goodness. I do feel lucky, very lucky. Prednisone and

imuran did work, I responded initially rapidly. My numbers were cut

in half within 3 days. ( I would hope so - thy had me on 80mgs and

200mgs imuran to start.) But it took over a year to get my numbers

in normal range. Have had two flare ups since, the first I was back

up at 4,000 in both, but the second I only peaked at 1,800. Now

after three years, my numbers are the best I have seen - actually

within normal range. My AST was 28, and ALT only 21 on tests taken

YEEHAW!!!!! But now I want to know what is going on inside, now that

I have learned here that even if blood work is good damage can be

continuing unnoticed.

Thanks again for all your help!

Carole

> Carole....... I,m not a doctor ... (I just play one on the internet)

> but here is my guess....... AIH is a CHRONIC disease.... just

because

> our LFTs are lower doesn't mean we're cured.......

> Itching (pruritis) is a symptom of liver disease ..... especially

those

> involving the biliary tract..

> most of the stuff I've seen on it attribute it to excess or retained

> billirubin or bile salts due to the liver's lessened ability to

remove

> them......but I have found a couple of sites that say it is really

not

> known what causes it in liver disease ...but venture it may be the

> retention of other fluid products...... I'm going to send one....the

> easiest for me to read.....

> I'm also sending a list of various symptoms of liver disease so

everyone

> can compare to how sick they are.....

> Thanks for having so much (misplaced) faith in me..... I'll be

sending

> an invoice later...

>

> love jerry

[Guest guest]

Dear Carole,

Wow your numbers were just incredible! I

can hardly believe what you went through!

Hope they never go up again.

(Mine was only 810 and 560)

[ ] Re:

Itching

Jerry-

Hmmmm........maybe you should start charging,

appears to me you would

get rich with all you answer!

Thanks for the answers. I see my doc and am

going to push hard for a

biopsy. Havent had one since 4 days after

diagnoses over three years

ago. Every thing that those with PBC suffer,

I seem to be

suffering. Not to mention, after all this

time you sit and wonder

what is going on in there.

How often do most get biopsies? My doc first

said yearly, then said

we need to wait for the liver to cool down to do

it. Only to have

him tell me when my LFT's went down he saw no

reason to do one. He

said the first was inconclusive because

inflammation was at grade

4++, and would be impossible to rate damage at

that time. Damage was

only grade 1 in that biopsy. At diagnosis my

ALT and AST were at

9,000 and 8,000. Total Bili was 12.

They told me it was a miracle I

was alive, let alone concious. They said

they had never seen or even

heard of numbers that high, and most they saw

close to me were in

coma and died within hours. They repeated

the test three times,

because they were sure it was a mistake. All

I knew was I was in

serious pain, my head felt like it was going to

explode, and I wasn't

just yellow I was this green grey color. (I looked

like the DOA's we

used to get on ambulance) I didn't understand how

serious these

numbers were until I saw what peoples 'highs' were

on this site.

They spoke of transplant back then, but have never

discussed it

since, thank goodness. I do feel lucky, very

lucky. Prednisone and

imuran did work, I responded initially

rapidly. My numbers were cut

in half within 3 days. ( I would hope so -

thy had me on 80mgs and

200mgs imuran to start.) But it took over a

year to get my numbers

in normal range. Have had two flare ups

since, the first I was back

up at 4,000 in both, but the second I only peaked

at 1,800. Now

after three years, my numbers are the best I have

seen - actually

within normal range. My AST was 28, and ALT

only 21 on tests taken

YEEHAW!!!!! But now I want to know what is

going on inside, now that

I have learned here that even if blood work is

good damage can be

continuing unnoticed.

Thanks again for all your help!

Carole

> Carole....... I,m not a doctor ... (I just

play one on the internet)

> but here is my guess....... AIH is a CHRONIC

disease.... just

because

> our LFTs are lower doesn't mean we're

cured.......

> Itching (pruritis) is a symptom of liver

disease ..... especially

those

> involving the biliary tract..

> most of the stuff I've seen on it attribute

it to excess or retained

> billirubin or bile salts due to the liver's

lessened ability to

remove

> them......but I have found a couple of sites

that say it is really

not

> known what causes it in liver disease ...but

venture it may be the

> retention of other fluid products...... I'm

going to send one....the

> easiest for me to read.....

> I'm also sending a list of various symptoms

of liver disease so

everyone

> can compare to how sick they are.....

> Thanks for having so much (misplaced) faith

in me..... I'll be

sending

> an invoice later...

>

>

love jerry

[Guest guest]

Jan -

I had some itching on my legs after my laminectomy. They traced it back to

Oxycontin. I'm alergic. I've

got all these pills and can't even crush and snort them (Kidding). As a

matter of fact, my dad had the

same reaction while in the hospital after his heart surgery. When my mom

called, I metioned this and the

doctors took him off immediately and thing were great.

Joe

> I'm not sure if the injection helped today or not..it is always hard to

tell for about a week. I am having one side effect that I never had

before...itching in my legs (no rash)..not excessive but kind of annoying. I

tried to do some research on it but came up pretty empty handed. I was told

it could be just a side effect of the anesthetia (I was given a

twilight..never had one for a epidural before). Anybody ever had that side

effect?

[Guest guest]

I won't address the underlying mechanism of AIH itching, only the palliatives. Ask your doctor if Atarax would work better for you than Benadryl. Atarax also will make you sleepy. However, it may be more effective than Benadryl for our specific kind of itching, so you may be able to get by with a low dose and therefore less side effects. Some people find Sarna, a non-prescription cream, helps them with itching; I found it stung very badly. So, if you buy the cream, try it on a small spot first. For me, plain kitchen cornstarch was soothing, as were cold showers. Instead of scratching, I patted my skin with a lambswool duster.

I would ask a lot of questions about Prednisone dosage and itching and insist on clear answers. The reason for taking Prednisone is not to combat itching, of course. Are you taking Imuran? I can't remember.

Harper

[Guest guest]

Amitriptyline (generic Elavil) has been a miracle drug for me.

Completely stopped the itching, along with the foot pain (felt like

I was walking on broken glass all the time).

I take a low dose 2-3 hours before bedtime per my rheumy's advice as

it does make you sleepy.

I used to wake up scratching and bleeding - my legs looked like I'd

been through a war!

[Guest guest]

Hi and Welcome Jack!!

You can try a couple of things for the itching. Benedryl makes an

over the counter lotion and it works pretty well to help curb your

itching without having to take a pill.

You can also try AVEENO lotion. It will not only help keep your skin

in better condition, but does help the itch.

Also, you can try Gold Bond Medicated Lotion. That works pretty good

too.

Good luck with your biopsy next week. I hope it comes out showing

very little liver damage!!

LeighAnn

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. I'm not sure about the full

extent of my Hep c kinda been in denial for 12 mths

since I found out. Thought I'd take the bull by the

horns so to speak and find out what the hell is going

on early this year. Meantime bull got me by the.....?

and I have this relentless itch, tiredness, etc etc

associated with jaundice. had more blood tests last

wk, a cat scan today and am having the biopsy next

week, which I heard was pretty bad but hospital

assures me worst that can happen is death, so no

worries.

I'll keep you posted

---------------------------------

Hi and Welcome Jack!!

You can try a couple of things for the itching.

Benedryl makes an

over the counter lotion and it works pretty well to

help curb your

itching without having to take a pill.

You can also try AVEENO lotion. It will not only help

keep your skin

in better condition, but does help the itch.

Also, you can try Gold Bond Medicated Lotion. That

works pretty good

too.

Good luck with your biopsy next week. I hope it comes

out showing

very little liver damage!!

LeighAnn

[Guest guest]

I can't believe the hospital told you something so stupid about the

biopsy. Ask the Dr to give you VERCED if possible before the biopsy.

It will make the procedure much easier to handle. You won't even

remember having it!

Biopsies can hurt like heck. It feels like someone kicked you in the

side with steel toed boots. But it also only lasts about a second.

Just remember to not lift anything heavy for a couple of days after

it's been done.

Ask the Dr for copies of your labs and your biopsy report. It will

help you better understand your condition. I do hope you have not

been drinking the past year, because alcohol makes the virus move at

a much faster pace!

Let us know when you get your test results!! Also, make sure the Dr

gets a Genotype test done. That is a blood test and is very important

in your decision about treatment.

LeighAnn