Amalgam removal

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In a message dated 2/16/02 6:29:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> prices vary from tooth to tooth, based on which tooth it is and how big a

> filling it is. also different dentists vary widely. you might not

> necesarilty want to base your decision on high or low price, rather the

> expertise of dentist. some excellent ones charge alot while other excellent

>

> ones do not

I figured this is the case, and that is why I asked for range b/c I realize

no one can put an exact figure on it. I don't have any amalgams, thank God,

but am checking for friends and relatives.

-

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Tell them to come to Turkey for that:). Our dentists are the same as yours

and I think price is much cheaper.I think single amalgam removal costs about

20 to 50 dollars depending on the dentist. How much is it in USA?

Take care..

Nil

Re: amalgam removal

> In a message dated 2/16/02 6:29:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

>

>

> > prices vary from tooth to tooth, based on which tooth it is and how big

a

> > filling it is. also different dentists vary widely. you might not

> > necesarilty want to base your decision on high or low price, rather the

> > expertise of dentist. some excellent ones charge alot while other

excellent

> >

> > ones do not

>

> I figured this is the case, and that is why I asked for range b/c I

realize

> no one can put an exact figure on it. I don't have any amalgams, thank

God,

> but am checking for friends and relatives.

> -

>

>

>

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Hi - just had my last two mercury amalgams removed.

We did it very slowly, every six months over the last

two years. He replaced the mercury with acrylic - it

costs about 45 dollars more than my insurance would

pay, but it's worth it. I always had about a week of

feeling bad afterwards - guess from detoxing. Now my

doctor wants to do a DMSA test (not sure what this is)

to determine what is the best chelating agent. WE've

only done a hair test so far which showed high levels

of mercury and uranium.

I'll keep you posted about how it goes.

Jennie

> Message: 1

> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 03:03:23 -0000

> From: " dh46374 " <tscyran@...>

> Subject: Re: Amalgam removal

>

> Hi Nil.

>

> I am trying to decide how to have my amlgams removed

> also, so I am no

> expert. It seems that mercury removal is one of the

> most

> controversial of the many difficult questions we

> face. It seems that

> everyone has a different opinion on how to do it and

> everyone feels

> very strongly that his way is the only way to do it.

> So this is not

> much help for you but I think you have to research

> the various options

> available to you and do what you think is best.

>

> Tom

>

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Sorry,just to make it more clear for me.. 1 amalgam removal every six

months?Did he use respirator/nosepiece?And like asked,I am also

wondering why you preferred acrylic?

Thanks.

Nil

Re: Amalgam removal

> >

> > Hi Nil.

> >

> > I am trying to decide how to have my amlgams removed

> > also, so I am no

> > expert. It seems that mercury removal is one of the

> > most

> > controversial of the many difficult questions we

> > face. It seems that

> > everyone has a different opinion on how to do it and

> > everyone feels

> > very strongly that his way is the only way to do it.

> > So this is not

> > much help for you but I think you have to research

> > the various options

> > available to you and do what you think is best.

> >

> > Tom

> >

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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<<< I don't have any amalgams, >>>

my 19yr old " charge " , s, also has perfect teeth - not a filling in her

head, and is still very sick....

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Hi Nil and -

I didn't ask for either porcelain or acrylic, the

doctor chose. I didn't actually know there was a

difference. He wanted to remove them all at once but

I waited, mainly due to insurance issues. He used a

nosepiece with repirator. I actually did very well

with the whole process; used a dose of arnica for

trauma per my homeopath's suggestion just before I

went in each time, and just felt a little more tired

than usual for about a week after each removal.

That's really all I know! Jennie

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Nil wrote:

Sorry,just to make it more clear for me.. 1 amalgam

removal every six

months?Did he use respirator/nosepiece?And like

asked,I am also

wondering why you preferred acrylic?

Thanks.

Nil

Re: Amalgam Removal

> Hi - just had my last two mercury amalgams removed.

> We did it very slowly, every six months over the

last

> two years. He replaced the mercury with acrylic -

it

> costs about 45 dollars more than my insurance would

> pay, but it's worth it. I always had about a week

of

> feeling bad afterwards - guess from detoxing. Now

my

> doctor wants to do a DMSA test (not sure what this

is)

> to determine what is the best chelating agent.

WE've

> only done a hair test so far which showed high

levels

> of mercury and uranium.

>

> I'll keep you posted about how it goes.

> Jennie

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You might become sick right away, or you might be fine for a few months and

then become sick. 2 months seems to be a typical time. The body dumps its

mercury stores about 2 months after it realizes there is no more mercury

coming in.

Those are the only two times I have heard of people getting sick from the

removal. Right after, or about 2 months after.

Doris

amalgam removal

> Hi All!

> I had three of my amalgams removed yesterday. When can I expect any

problems if it occurs any? Thanks.Nil

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Thanks Doris!

Interesting.3 of them was removed yesterday. I have about 6 more.Today I had

mild fever,aches at my tonsils area and slightly activated sinus infection.I

don't know if this was directly related to amalgam removal or if it was due

to immune system suppression because of this stressful activity.I also had

some brain fog today but again I am not sure if it was due to he tiredness

of yesterday or not.Do you think this is directly related to removal? I

remember you saying before that you got sick 2 months later. What were the

signs of it? More neurological worsening or just worsening of all symptoms.

Huggins says that removal should be completed within a month time.2 months

being latest. I actually want them all out of my mouth.I am wondering if it

would be a mistake to continue removing them even if my immune system

problems and/or brain fog continues.If I interrupt it,I will have some extra

mercury in my body and I will not be able to start full chelation because I

will still have some more amalgams. What is your opinion?Thanks..Nil

Re: amalgam removal

| You might become sick right away, or you might be fine for a few months

and

| then become sick. 2 months seems to be a typical time. The body dumps

its

| mercury stores about 2 months after it realizes there is no more mercury

| coming in.

|

| Those are the only two times I have heard of people getting sick from the

| removal. Right after, or about 2 months after.

| Doris

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I didn't get sick at all directly after removal. When I did, 2 months

later, it was almost all neurological, and not just brain fog but my brain

practically stopped working.

My opinion would depend on the results of your liver tests. Did you do them

first? I think everyone should test their glutathione levels and cysteine

levels before removal. Glutathione has to be high, and cysteine has to be

low. Period. In my case I had gotten glutathione up with whey protein,

which is probably why I didn't get sick right away. But that raised my

cysteine which caused the mercury to go to the brain.

Thanks,

Doris

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From: " ng " <ng2113@...>

> Interesting.3 of them was removed yesterday. I have about 6 more.Today I

had

> mild fever,aches at my tonsils area and slightly activated sinus

infection.I

> don't know if this was directly related to amalgam removal or if it was

due

> to immune system suppression because of this stressful activity.I also had

> some brain fog today but again I am not sure if it was due to he tiredness

> of yesterday or not.Do you think this is directly related to removal? I

> remember you saying before that you got sick 2 months later. What were the

> signs of it? More neurological worsening or just worsening of all

symptoms.

> Huggins says that removal should be completed within a month time.2 months

> being latest. I actually want them all out of my mouth.I am wondering if

it

> would be a mistake to continue removing them even if my immune system

> problems and/or brain fog continues.If I interrupt it,I will have some

extra

> mercury in my body and I will not be able to start full chelation because

I

> will still have some more amalgams. What is your opinion?Thanks..Nil

[Guest guest]

Oh,no.. No tests done.Thanks so much for the info..nil

Re: amalgam removal

| I didn't get sick at all directly after removal. When I did, 2 months

| later, it was almost all neurological, and not just brain fog but my brain

| practically stopped working.

|

| My opinion would depend on the results of your liver tests. Did you do

them

| first? I think everyone should test their glutathione levels and cysteine

[Guest guest]

It is not too late. You could still do them before you have the rest of

your fillings removed. The test is from Great Smokies.

http://www.gsdl.com/ Comprehensive Detox Profile. It costs less than $200.

If you don't have a doctor who will order the test, maybe your dentist can

do it.

Thanks,

Doris

Re: amalgam removal

> Oh,no.. No tests done.Thanks so much for the info..nil

[Guest guest]

I have high level MCS. This probably means that I am low in glutathione.

Doesn't it?So,was it a big mistake for me to start the process? Nil

Re: amalgam removal

| I didn't get sick at all directly after removal. When I did, 2 months

| later, it was almost all neurological, and not just brain fog but my brain

| practically stopped working.

|

| My opinion would depend on the results of your liver tests. Did you do

them

| first? I think everyone should test their glutathione levels and cysteine

| levels before removal. Glutathione has to be high, and cysteine has to be

| low. Period. In my case I had gotten glutathione up with whey protein,

| which is probably why I didn't get sick right away. But that raised my

| cysteine which caused the mercury to go to the brain.

| Thanks,

| Doris

| ----- Original Message -----

| From: " ng " <ng2113@...>

| > Interesting.3 of them was removed yesterday. I have about 6 more.Today I

| had

| > mild fever,aches at my tonsils area and slightly activated sinus

| infection.I

| > don't know if this was directly related to amalgam removal or if it was

| due

| > to immune system suppression because of this stressful activity.I also

had

| > some brain fog today but again I am not sure if it was due to he

tiredness

| > of yesterday or not.Do you think this is directly related to removal? I

| > remember you saying before that you got sick 2 months later. What were

the

| > signs of it? More neurological worsening or just worsening of all

| symptoms.

| > Huggins says that removal should be completed within a month time.2

months

| > being latest. I actually want them all out of my mouth.I am wondering if

| it

| > would be a mistake to continue removing them even if my immune system

| > problems and/or brain fog continues.If I interrupt it,I will have some

| extra

| > mercury in my body and I will not be able to start full chelation

because

| I

| > will still have some more amalgams. What is your opinion?Thanks..Nil

|

|

|

|

| This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

|

|

[Guest guest]

If your glutathione is low and cysteine is not high, then you can take whey

protein and NAC to build up your glutathione. If your cysteine is high,

then you want to lower it, by taking l-gluatamine and l-glycine. They are

supposed to combine with cysteine to create glutathione.

It seems like a bad idea to do removal when glutathione is low or cysteine

is high.

Doris

Re: amalgam removal

>

>

> > Oh,no.. No tests done.Thanks so much for the info..nil

[Guest guest]

But what do you DO with the test results ?

Can they be improved on ?

Re: amalgam removal

It is not too late. You could still do them before you have the rest of

your fillings removed. The test is from Great Smokies.

http://www.gsdl.com/ Comprehensive Detox Profile. It costs less than $200.

If you don't have a doctor who will order the test, maybe your dentist can

do it.

Thanks,

Doris

Re: amalgam removal

> Oh,no.. No tests done.Thanks so much for the info..nil

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

,

Yes,I read that but I also read that taking Chlorella while you have

amalgams were not good as Chlorella would put more mercury into your system.

I think I have done a mistake by starting removal. My brain is still claudy

today.Does anybody have any ideas on what I can do now.I am still not sure

if what I read about Chlorella is correct.Should I start increasing my

dosage of Chlorella at this point while I still have some more amalgams?

Take care,

Nil

amalgam removal

| In a message dated 3/24/02 8:13:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

| writes:

|

| Nil, I have been reading up more and more on mercury chelation and such

and

| have no amalgams myself, however, if I were going to get my amalgams

removed

| I think I would have taken chorella for a good while before doing it.

Have

| you done this? I am currently going to try to order some from Cheney's

| office come Mon or I will order the same brand he uses straight from

Germany

| which is expensive shipping cost. I am soon going to have a Comprehensive

| Liver Detox Profile test done to see how that is doing and then a DMSA

| Challenge test done by the middle of April most likely. I did muscle

testing

| this past week and it suggested I should take the Cheney used chorella and

| then later on DMSA/ALA down the road.

| -

|

|

|

| This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

|

|

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Nil -

Is the article on amalgam removal available on the web? If not,

please post to the group or send me a copy - thanks!

aj

> I found a very good article about all aspects of amalgam removal

but I don't want to post it to group as it is quite long. I can send

it to you personally if you are interested.Please inform me.Take

care..Nil

>

>

>

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with what do you replace the amalgam gold white or yellow or porcellan or other suggestions? would love to know as I am going to remove 4 fillings in dec.

violet

Amalgam Removal

Hi All

I just had 9 mercury filling removed (within 4 months)

I went to a holistic dentist so the mercury was removed with special equipment. I myself took about two grams of vitamin C Ester for about two days after each removal, ate a lot of antioxidants like berrys, red beet juice etc and used chlorophyll drink. Besides I am working with medicinal herbs and I prepared myself an antioxidant tincture (gingko, red grape peels, milkthistle and curcumin).

Together with a lot of detoxifying on the QXCI I went through the whole procedure without any side effects.

I almost forgot the most important thing. I prepared a homeopathic inverted amalgam from the removed amalgam and used it as long as the biotensor told me to.

Hope this helps.

Best regards

Bianca............................................

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Avoid any metals: gold has contaminants

Get data sheets from the dentist on options: all components incl adhesive. Trace solvents can be neurotoxins

Use QX test matrix if the dental isodes are in the list . o/wise test via test tray. You want no significant body reaction = low reactivity and resonance = 30-60 range.

Kelsey

Amalgam Removal

Hi All

I just had 9 mercury filling removed (within 4 months)

I went to a holistic dentist so the mercury was removed with special equipment. I myself took about two grams of vitamin C Ester for about two days after each removal, ate a lot of antioxidants like berrys, red beet juice etc and used chlorophyll drink. Besides I am working with medicinal herbs and I prepared myself an antioxidant tincture (gingko, red grape peels, milkthistle and curcumin).

Together with a lot of detoxifying on the QXCI I went through the whole procedure without any side effects.

I almost forgot the most important thing. I prepared a homeopathic inverted amalgam from the removed amalgam and used it as long as the biotensor told me to.

Hope this helps.

Best regards

Bianca............................................

[Guest guest]

You an test using the QX dental program..many non amalgams have neurotoxic solvents.Look for a low Reactivity and resonance = the body does not find the item significant.

Kelsey

Amalgam Removal

Hi Violet

I still owe you an answer regarding the replacement of the amalgam fillings

My dentist used composite resin based on clove. I hope this helps.

Regards

Bianca

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any suggestions for crones (jackets)

porcelan gold or .....

violet

Amalgam Removal

Hi Violet

I still owe you an answer regarding the replacement of the amalgam fillings

My dentist used composite resin based on clove. I hope this helps.

Regards

Bianca

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Porcelain, probably!

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any suggestions for crones (jackets)

porcelan gold or .....

violet

Amalgam Removal

Hi Violet

I still owe you an answer regarding the replacement of the amalgam fillings

My dentist used composite resin based on clove. I hope this helps.

Regards

Bianca

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I would suggest doing a Clifford test to find your compatible materials, bonding agents and other materials to replace the amalgams. Not doing so, you may end up with materials that are not compatible with your body and thus just as bad as amalgams. the Clifford test covers over 200 materials that can be used in you teeth and his phone number is 719-550-0008. The test costs $225 US and is done on serum.

Castiglia

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The QX can also be used to test for non reactive materials : you want 40 ish Reactivity, resonannce = the body does not care.

More recent QX programs (Oct 02 on) have a reactivity version of the Clifford report

Kelsey

Re: Amalgam Removal

I would suggest doing a Clifford test to find your compatible materials, bonding agents and other materials to replace the amalgams. Not doing so, you may end up with materials that are not compatible with your body and thus just as bad as amalgams. the Clifford test covers over 200 materials that can be used in you teeth and his phone number is 719-550-0008. The test costs $225 US and is done on serum. Castiglia ............................................

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> I have had all my (seven) amalgams removed and replaced over the past 6

> weeks. Used cilantro, green algae and " mercury detox " supplements to

> support the process.

Congratulations on the amalgam removal, Cara!

Note that one should expect the mercury detox process to take a LONG

time... I had my last mercury amalgam fillings removed in July 2001,

and then spent thousands of dollars on mercury detox supplements in

the subsequent years, and yet I *still* feel like I'm heavy metal

poisoned even today. I say this because I am still sensitive to

small amounts of several mercury detox supplements (e.g, NDF,

PCA-Rx, Ca-EDTA, Mercury Magnet) -- I get all the nasty symptoms of

heavy metal mobilization. I would think that if I had actually solved

this problem, then I would be very tolerant of these mercury detox

supplements.

Of course, because of my intolerance for these supplements, I don't

take them very often (or in very large doses), which of course

contributes

to it taking a long time to detox.

One thing I have NOT tried much, that I believe Jan has used with

great success, are the pads that you stick on the bottoms of

your feet that pull out toxins while you sleep. I actually

have a box of these from years ago, but I didn't notice them

doing anything on the 1-2 days I tried them. Also, there are

several brands to choose from, and it's certainly possible I

bought one of the brands that don't work as well.

Ahhh, so many things to try... so little money... :-)

Marc

P.S. I ordered some raw milk yesterday, and was rather surprised

to hear that the shipping on a gallon of this was $21!

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I buy my foot detox pads from www.purewaterabode.com/DetoxPads.htm.

If you buy more than 50 they are a dollar a piece and to me work just

as good as the more expensive ones. I use a combination of sauna,

cilantro oil, and footpads. I gave myself a haircut where I look like

one of those guys with hair on the side of his head but bald on top.

Didn't have much on top anymore anyway. I use my sauna table to open

the pores and get the stuff moving toward the skin. I rub in lots

of cilantro oil and place a detox pad right on top of my head and

cover with a hat. I'm fine indoors but when I go outdoors and get

exposed to all the stuff in the atmosphere I sometimes still have to

use some other devices I have to counter the frequencies in the air

with other frequencies. I can only use my Q-Link products on a

limited basis though for this.

Also one thing I have found is that it seems the heavy metals like to

accumulate in the private areas. I rub in oil of cilantro.

>

> One thing I have NOT tried much, that I believe Jan has used with

> great success, are the pads that you stick on the bottoms of

> your feet that pull out toxins while you sleep. I actually

> have a box of these from years ago, but I didn't notice them

> doing anything on the 1-2 days I tried them. Also, there are

> several brands to choose from, and it's certainly possible I

> bought one of the brands that don't work as well.

>

>

>