Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Andy has said numerous if not hundreds if times ALA alone is fine, search the forums or look in the archives at onibasu.com I'll take Andy's word for it as opposed to some random poorly designed website. > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being removed. " > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety of doing this. > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Using ALA alone without DMSA recovered my son. > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being removed. " > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety of doing this. > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 @: How long did the ALA protocol continue before you considered your son recovered??? I need details and hope!! I am nervous to use ALA ( we just began DMSA this month) at the beginning since a lot of DAN doc's use it AFTER the DMSA gets the " body " metals out.... > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being removed. " > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety of doing this. > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 It is best if Cutler or some one who has fully recovered replies this. Regards, Sajeel ________________________________ From: <purplegirl1981@...> Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 2:13:21 AM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone not safe??? @: How long did the ALA protocol continue before you considered your son recovered??? I need details and hope!! I am nervous to use ALA ( we just began DMSA this month) at the beginning since a lot of DAN doc's use it AFTER the DMSA gets the " body " metals out.... > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being >removed. " > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety >of doing this. > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Cutler has said 100's of times that Ala is perfectly safe alone, it is the only chelator needed, the workhorse chelator. See www.onibasu.com We used Ala alone the last year and a half of chelation on my recovered, formerly pdd-Nos girl. > > > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury > >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, > >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > >removed. " > > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety > >of doing this. > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always > >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I was extremely nervous about using anything after my son's reaction to IV -- I was REALLY nervous, but we started with ALA only and my son has done great. Not perfect, but great. He has increased stimming/sound sensitivity at times, but reading a post by onibasu about how when chelating there can be exacerbation of the worst symptoms of the mercury poisoning at times. However after starting ALA and beginning ACE, my son who has been sick every two weeks since regression, and who has had serious lung issues has not been sick at all, and he has only needed his rescue inhaler three times in nine weeks! Each of those three occurred on the first day of a round. I upped his Ace a bit more and he has not needed his rescue inhaler at all since. How well he has done and the improvements I see makes me want to kick myself for not starting sooner. Haven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 That is probably based on high, infrequent dosing, which is not safe. The site mentions 100-100 mg.... ALA is safe if using AC protocol. S S ALA alone not safe??? Posted by: " selection101 " k10magic@... selection101 Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:26 pm (PDT) " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being removed. " Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Maybe you are correct in this statement, Sajeel. I deleted my response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 !!! My son is also PDD-NOS and I need some details!! Did you do ALA alone and do you feel this is what recovered your daughter?? I am scared to do ALA as we have just started DMSA and I am afraid of letting metals " back into " the brain! > > > > > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury > > >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, > > >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > > >removed. " > > > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety > > >of doing this. > > > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always > > >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 100 to 300 rounds is what Andy says. 2 to 6 years chelating every week. TJ [ ] Re: ALA alone not safe??? @: How long did the ALA protocol continue before you considered your son recovered??? I need details and hope!! I am nervous to use ALA ( we just began DMSA this month) at the beginning since a lot of DAN doc's use it AFTER the DMSA gets the " body " metals out.... > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being >removed. " > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257. [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 We have been doing ALA only and are seeing very good results. My fears were the only obstacle to starting. We finished round 10. 290 to go! There are tons of people out there buying ALA from Wal-Mart and taking it the wrong way. Worry about them. They don't know any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Sajeel, I don't understand your point. My child IS fully recovered. I have his paperwork showing he meets no criteria for any developmental delay or disability. He has been assessed and evaluated quite extensively by a doctor who exclusively evaluates special needs kids. He no longer meets any criteria for an autism diagnosis, or even an Asperger Syndrome diagnosis. He no longer needs any behavioral therapies, no OT, no speech, etc. I used ALA alone, because we safely could following Cutler's criteria. > > > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury > >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, > >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > >removed. " > > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety > >of doing this. > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always > >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Dear , I think you have not read the complete thread. I have no doubt on Cutler method and is chelating my child with ALA since last four months without any adverse effects. Some one on the list quoted that using ALA alone is not ok. I just added that in spite of my own experience which is still young it would be better if some one like you or Cutler himself replies to this. So my apologies if my comments caused any inconvenience. Just to have clarification my self. Sajeel On Wed Mar 23rd, 2011 6:03 PM PKT mosaictm wrote: >Sajeel, > >I don't understand your point. My child IS fully recovered. I have his paperwork showing he meets no criteria for any developmental delay or disability. He has been assessed and evaluated quite extensively by a doctor who exclusively evaluates special needs kids. He no longer meets any criteria for an autism diagnosis, or even an Asperger Syndrome diagnosis. He no longer needs any behavioral therapies, no OT, no speech, etc. > >I used ALA alone, because we safely could following Cutler's criteria. > > > > > > >> > > >> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury >> >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, >> >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being >> >removed. " >> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html >> > > >> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? >> > > >> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety >> >of doing this. >> > > >> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always >> >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 , Just for my curiousity did you have the hair test? Sajeel On Wed Mar 23rd, 2011 9:33 PM PKT sajeel shafiq wrote: >Dear , > >I think you have not read the complete thread. I have no doubt on Cutler method and is chelating my child with ALA since last four months without any adverse effects. >Some one on the list quoted that using ALA alone is not ok. I just added that in spite of my own experience which is still young it would be better if some one like you or Cutler himself replies to this. >So my apologies if my comments caused any inconvenience. Just to have clarification my self. > >Sajeel > >On Wed Mar 23rd, 2011 6:03 PM PKT mosaictm wrote: > >>Sajeel, >> >>I don't understand your point. My child IS fully recovered. I have his paperwork showing he meets no criteria for any developmental delay or disability. He has been assessed and evaluated quite extensively by a doctor who exclusively evaluates special needs kids. He no longer meets any criteria for an autism diagnosis, or even an Asperger Syndrome diagnosis. He no longer needs any behavioral therapies, no OT, no speech, etc. >> >>I used ALA alone, because we safely could following Cutler's criteria. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > >>> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury >>> >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, >>> >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being >>> >removed. " >>> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html >>> > > >>> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? >>> > > >>> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety >>> >of doing this. >>> > > >>> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always >>> >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Hey , how many rounds did you have to do? did you do anything else like antiviral or bacterial treatment. I think we're in the stall right now. We're at round 46. thanks! jeni > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being removed. " > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety of doing this. > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 ....and/or based on being used by people who still have mercury amalgam dental filings, which is also dangerous. S S Re: ALA alone not safe??? Posted by: " Shepard Salzer " _Shepard@... lgshepard Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:30 pm (PDT) That is probably based on high, infrequent dosing, which is not safe. The site mentions 100-100 mg.... ALA is safe if using AC protocol. S S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yes. I we had one when my son was first dx'd, before we started chelation and supplementation, and one when my son's dx was removed. The tests reflect toxicity and healing. > >>> > > > >>> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury > >>> >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, > >>> >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > >>> >removed. " > >>> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > >>> > > > >>> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > >>> > > > >>> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety > >>> >of doing this. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always > >>> >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 My son hair test shows toxicity of Lead and Arsenic on the high. We started with ALA and saw some gains but now for last few weeks it is stand still. I have read DMSA chelates these metals. Any comments ? Sajeel ________________________________ From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 6:06:14 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone not safe??? Yes. I we had one when my son was first dx'd, before we started chelation and supplementation, and one when my son's dx was removed. The tests reflect toxicity and healing. > >>> > > > >>> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes >mercury > > >>> >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or >DMSA, > > >>> >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > >>> >removed. " > >>> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > >>> > > > >>> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > >>> > > > >>> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the >safety > > >>> >of doing this. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I >always > > >>> >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Where did you get hair test and was it expensive? Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:06 AM, " mosaictm " <lisa369@...> wrote: > Yes. I we had one when my son was first dx'd, before we started chelation and supplementation, and one when my son's dx was removed. > > The tests reflect toxicity and healing. > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury > > >>> >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, > > >>> >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > > >>> >removed. " > > >>> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety > > >>> >of doing this. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always > > >>> >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 We did rounds about 3 out of every 4 weekends for about 20 months. Whatever number that equals. We are still going because the mercury is still not as low as it should be. Yes we did other stuff to help, too. Classical homeopathy - we started when his ATEC hit around 20. We did antiviral (OLE, lysine, Virastop, and he was on vit C and D). Bacterial - oregeno oil, OLE, GSE, Culturelle Herbal parasite treatment Many therapies, but not ABA. I did a lot of one on one type therapies with him on my own (he really started to bloom from this when we decided to homeschool). And a whole host of other holistic energy type treatments, some daily or weekly: -NAET/Bioset, quite extensively -detoxed as much as possible in the home/environment. -CST -reflexology -Energy work/healing is such an integral part of our lives, how I live, that I can't even separate it all out. > > Hey , how many rounds did you have to do? did you do anything else like antiviral or bacterial treatment. I think we're in the stall right now. We're at round 46. > > thanks! > jeni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 NOTE: Each round we did was a bit longer than the Fri eve to Monday AM, that many people do. We would start around 6-8am on a Thursday morning and go until 8-9pm on a Sunday night. Also we usually had to dose ALA about every 2 hours and 45 minutes, or my son would not feel well. > > > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being removed. " > > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the safety of doing this. > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I had our son's DDI hair elements tested through Direct Laboratory Services (aka DirectLabs). It's fairly inexpensive, depending on your budget. Test is: retail @ $117, DirectLabs @$93, plus a 10% discount if you use the discount code: AUT at check out online. I don't know what other vendors or independent doctors charge. Your doctor may be willing to request it, so it'd be good to check your insurance about coverage. Moria has information at the onibasu, and I think there is info in the Files of this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 DMSA chelates lead, not ALA. A few weeks isn't NEAR enough time. This is a long haul. We saw 2 steps forward, and 1 step back for a few years. We even had small (but terrifying) regressions for weeks at a time. Recovery is NOT a straight line, and other issues must be addressed, like yeast, viral issues, bacteria, etc. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes > >mercury > > > > >>> >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or > >DMSA, > > > > >>> >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being > > >>> >removed. " > > >>> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the > >safety > > > > >>> >of doing this. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I > >always > > > > >>> >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 hi lisa, hi all! i started third round of chelation for my son on 12.5 mg ALA but he got diarrhea,my question is can i continue with chelation?he had a loose stool just once.plz let me know as early as possible coz his 4th dose is after 1.5 hr! thanks in advance ________________________________ From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 9:27:35 PM Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone not safe???  NOTE: Each round we did was a bit longer than the Fri eve to Monday AM, that many people do. We would start around 6-8am on a Thursday morning and go until 8-9pm on a Sunday night. Also we usually had to dose ALA about every 2 hours and 45 minutes, or my son would not feel well. > > > > > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury >with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, >the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being >removed. " > > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html > > > > > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? > > > > > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the >safety of doing this. > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always >thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Dear Aisha, Will just quote my experience. If the child has slight fever or slight diarrhea pls continue with chelation but if you think it is intolerable so you stop. By the way how much your child weighs and from which dose you started? Regards, Sajeel On Fri Mar 25th, 2011 7:29 PM PKT Aisha Saquib wrote: >hi lisa, > >hi all! i started third round of chelation for my son on 12.5 mg ALAÂ but he got >diarrhea,my question is can i continue with chelation?he had a loose stool just >once.plz let me know as early as possible coz his 4th dose is after 1.5 hr! > >thanks in advance > > > > >________________________________ >From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> > >Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 9:27:35 PM >Subject: [ ] Re: ALA alone not safe??? > >Â >NOTE: > >Each round we did was a bit longer than the Fri eve to Monday AM, that many >people do. We would start around 6-8am on a Thursday morning and go until 8-9pm >on a Sunday night. Also we usually had to dose ALA about every 2 hours and 45 >minutes, or my son would not feel well. > > > > >> > > >> > > " Alpha lipoic acid should not be used alone, as it only mobilizes mercury >>with a weak bond. Without additional chelators present, such as DMPS or DMSA, >>the mercury may just redistribute elsewhere in the body instead of being >>removed. " >> > > Source: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T76257.html >> > > >> > > Can Cutler or someone else comment on this ? >> > > >> > > I've only been chelating with ALA alone and am now concerned about the >>safety of doing this. >> > > >> > > Thanks to anyone who can explain if this has any validity to it. I always >>thiugh ALA formed a strong bond between mercury and other heavy metals. >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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