Re:Andy Cuttler ! Orthomolecular complex w/t ALA

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OK, Can We use the complex as part of the routs  (40 mg of ALA )  ,but it

could be lowered to 20mg   or less !. This complex is not like a regular

supplement , supposedly ! The ingredients are released 6-8 hours in to the body

after ingestion .The idea is that Orthomolecular supplements are  easier

 to absorb  that just regular supps and are able to go inside the cells and

work from inside OUT  . We have been giving many supps over the years and saw

NO or little results and Believe  that our kids simply don't absorb much of

what we give them so , We are hoping that the complex will help and will be

easier absorbed .Any thoughts on that ?Thanks in advance 

Nora Bunis -Stuart 

From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Orthomoleculiar complex and exesive urinating

Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 4:58 PM

 

If I understand you there is Alpha Lipoic Acid in the supplement.

If this is true you must stop this supplement as Alpha Lipoic Acid can only be

given every three hours on round at the same dose each time. You cannot give

one time dose of 40.0mg. You will dump metals into his brain.

Try the following supplements

vitamin E 400iu

vitamn C 750mg (divided into 4 doses per day)

Magnesium 350-400mg (divided into 3-4 doses per day)

Zinc 70mg (divided into 3-4 doses per day)

These basic four supplements are the minimum required for chelation.

Some excess urination is normal when you first begin chelation it usually sorts

out sometime in the first couple of months of weekly rounds.

If your child is getting dehydrated or it lasts longer than that you need to see

your doctor.

If the excessive urination is accompanied by lethargy, excessive desire for cold

sweet drinks, increased hunger especially for sweet things, etc... you should

see your dotor to rule out diabetes.

Tressie

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> > > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with

balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive

urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering

Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins

minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time

wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have

exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation

become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as

i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the

reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or

is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy?

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Your unnecessarily complicated things. Dr Cutler had said time release formulas

are untested and unreliable. So if your giving ALA you need to give it every 3

hours or you risk redistribution of metals.

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balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive

urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering

Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins

minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time

wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have

exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation

become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as

i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the

reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or

is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy?

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[Guest guest]

I have a genetic disorder that typically leads to severe malabsorption. I

learned a lot of what I know about fixing that from this list, so I have no

reason to believe any of this is really specific to my genetic disorder (except

that the amount of sea salt I took may be higher than what other people need).

Some things I did which eventually got my gut working:

Initially, I used prescription digestive enzymes. There are a number of people

on this list who purchase enzymes without a prescription to aid in digestion.

I took Celtci sea salt. I think this is really important to making a healthy

mucus lining, which I think is really important to get the gut to work

correctly.

I found that taking sea salt with glyconutrients and a healthy oil/fat allowed

me to absorb the sea salt better and tolerate higher amounts of it. This

combination was generally healing for me but also led to a lot of diarrhea. I

found that increasing one or two of these three supplements had a small impact

but increasing all three of them had a huge impact. They appeared to work

synergistically for me. I initially used coconut oil, which is known to do good

things for the gut, but I no longer tolerate it well in large amounts (probably

mostly because I still have metal dental work and it seems to move metal

somewhat). These day, I rely primarily on organic butter but I have also found

that bacon grease, olive oil and a few other things are acceptable from time to

time, if I don't overdo it. I no longer take these things as supplements. I

just eat a healthy carb cooked with a healthy fat and sea salt. Now that I am

healthier, that goes a long way towards keeping the symptoms of my genetic

disorder at bay.

I worked on killing infection. Digestive enzymes taken on an empty stomach can

be used as an antiviral. I have come to believe that a healthy, functioning gut

is an important part of the body's defense system. Working to kill certain

kinds of microbes and foster others (pro-biotics) did a lot for both my general

digestion and my ability to fight off infection. (I have heard that coconut oil

does good things for gut flora, so another reason I used it while I could.)

I ate a lot of organic yogurt. I know that a lot of folks on this list are

gfcf. Translate that into " I got a good source of probiotics at least twice a

day for a long time " and you should have no problem applying this general

principle to your situation.

I carefully tracked symptoms and talked to people on this list and checked out

info on Dana's View concerning which specific supplements I appeared to actually

need. I did additional research on what to take with what, what to not take

together, and what forms of things provided optimal absorption. For me, I am

allergic to sulfur and most iron supplements contain sulfur. Not good. So I

was picky about what type of iron I would buy. I was picky about what type of

calcium I would buy. I got a liquid B complex formula for absorbability. Etc.

And I mostly bought individual supplements rather than " formulas " so I could

take specifically what I needed.

Over time, this corrected my malabsorption and I no longer need enzymes and I

take very few supplements these days. I still eat carefully, with an eye

towards meeting my special dietary/nutritional needs given my genetic disorder.

But you have to eat anyway. I find it a relatively small burden compared to

what I am supposed to be dealing with. For my genetic disorder, about 85% of

people are on prescription digestive enzymes and generally very ill. Most

people who are not on enzymes eventually do wind up needing them. It is almost

unheard of for someone to stop needing them.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> OK, Can We use the complex as part of the routs  (40 mg of ALA )  ,but it

could be lowered to 20mg   or less !. This complex is not like a regular

supplement , supposedly ! The ingredients are released 6-8 hours in to the body

after ingestion .The idea is that Orthomolecular supplements are  easier

 to absorb  that just regular supps and are able to go inside the cells and

work from inside OUT  . We have been giving many supps over the years and saw

NO or little results and Believe  that our kids simply don't absorb much of

what we give them so , We are hoping that the complex will help and will be

easier absorbed .Any thoughts on that ?Thanks in advance 

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> Nora Bunis -Stuart 

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