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not sure but i have heard of kids with hypothyroid have issues with missing

adult teeth ....maybe have that checked out

From: Marty Landman <mlandman@...>

Subject: [ ] missing adult teeth?

Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:56 PM

 

This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays yesterday.

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Mine has the opposite problem; he still needs to lose some of his baby teeth.

He's 10 (will be 11 in August) but only lost 5 or 6 of them. Is that common?

April

[ ] missing adult teeth?

Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:56 PM

This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays yesterday.

Marty

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YOur teeth require thyroid hormone to erupt at the proper time and grow to the

proper size.

When thyroid hormone is lacking they roots grow much more slowly, enamel is

thinner and

you loose your baby teeth much later you might want to check that out

Simone

On 2011-04-06, at 4:31 PM, April itz wrote:

> Mine has the opposite problem; he still needs to lose some of his baby teeth.

He's 10 (will be 11 in August) but only lost 5 or 6 of them. Is that common?

>

> April

> [ ] missing adult teeth?

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:56 PM

>

> This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

> encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

> high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

> an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

> with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays yesterday.

>

> Marty

>

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Thanks Simone! Does my son need to see a specialist or a regular ped can order

the test for his thyroid hormone level?

April

> >

> > From: Marty Landman <mlandman@...>

> > Subject: [ ] missing adult teeth?

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:56 PM

> >

> > This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

> > encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

> > high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

> > an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

> > with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays yesterday.

> >

> > Marty

> >

> >

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I'm not sure either, but I can tell you that after my son was mercury

poisoned, allhis baby teeth began to demineralize, and the permanent ones

tht have come in, don't look normal. He is going to need braces -- which I

have no idea how this is going to work for him since we are chelating and he

has sensory issues.

I know I was told early on that mercury poisoning causes abnormal mineral

transport and really messes with calcium. If the body doesn't absorb or

metabolize enough, the body will suck calcium out of the teeth.

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Hey April,

We don't have thyroid issues here its just a tidbit of info I had in the back of

my head.

Check with the people at http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

I here theres lots of good info there.

Simone

On 2011-04-06, at 5:31 PM, aprilpaulitz wrote:

> Thanks Simone! Does my son need to see a specialist or a regular ped can order

the test for his thyroid hormone level?

>

> April

>

>

> > >

> > > From: Marty Landman <mlandman@...>

> > > Subject: [ ] missing adult teeth?

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:56 PM

> > >

> > > This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

> > > encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

> > > high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

> > > an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

> > > with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays

yesterday.

> > >

> > > Marty

> > >

> > >

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> Mine has the opposite problem; he still needs to lose some of his baby teeth.

He's 10 (will be 11 in August) but only lost 5 or 6 of them. Is that common?

For my kids, this was caused by hypothyroid issues. The teeth started falling

out when I started giving thyroid support supplements [selenium, iodine,

tyrosine].

Dana

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Thank you Dana! Would you mind telling me the ages of your kids and the dosage

you gave them at the time?

TIA.

April

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> Mine has the opposite problem; he still needs to lose some of his baby

teeth. He's 10 (will be 11 in August) but only lost 5 or 6 of them. Is that

common?

For my kids, this was caused by hypothyroid issues. The teeth started falling

out when I started giving thyroid support supplements [selenium, iodine,

tyrosine].

Dana

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Thanks Simone. I will check it out.

April

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>> > > Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:56 PM

>> > >

>> > > This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

>> > > encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

>> > > high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

>> > > an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

>> > > with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays

>> > > yesterday.

>> > >

>> > > Marty

>> > >

>> > >

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Yeah...have heard of it and experienced it...lol Me!! I had several molars

that were baby teeth....so yeah I know it happens. As to why..I had attributed

it to being FAE. My thyroid had been tested several times as a kid and showed

normal. Too bad they didn't test my adrenals then. Oh well....live and learn.

>

> This is off topic I guess just wondering if anyone else has

> encountered this phenomenon. We have found out our 14 yr old who has

> high functioning autism and was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy as

> an infant - that dx subsequently removed - is missing two adult teeth

> with a 3d not well developed. The dentist showed me on the xrays yesterday.

>

> Marty

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I read that we cannot fix the hypothyroid issue before we address adrenal issue.

My son has both of them. Dana, may I ask you, did your child have adrenal

issues, and in which order did you address it? Or, you just started thyroid

support?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

San

> > Mine has the opposite problem; he still needs to lose some of his baby

teeth. He's 10 (will be 11 in August) but only lost 5 or 6 of them. Is that

common?

>

> For my kids, this was caused by hypothyroid issues. The teeth started

falling out when I started giving thyroid support supplements [selenium, iodine,

tyrosine].

>

> Dana

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> Thank you Dana! Would you mind telling me the ages of your kids and the

dosage you gave them at the time?

They were in the 10-14yo range at the time. I started low doses and worked up.

Selenium - 50-200mcg

Iodine - 50-225mcg

Tyrosine - 250-500mg

Dana

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> I read that we cannot fix the hypothyroid issue before we address adrenal

issue.

I would be very skeptical of anything or anyone who indicates you " can't " do

something. It may be that adrenals and thyroid work together in some fashion [i

have not researched that], and you may not have as good of results if one is

weak while the other is being corrected, but if your child is deficient in

selenium, iodine, or tyrosine, why couldn't you start giving them?

>>My son has both of them. Dana, may I ask you, did your child have adrenal

issues, and in which order did you address it? Or, you just started thyroid

support?

Because my kids had all the symptoms of hypothyroid, I started with thyroid

supps. Selenium I started many years ago, iodine and tyrosine last summer.

I have tried Thorne ACE, it was a decidedly NASTY experience. In fact, the most

recent time I tried it was bad enough that last weekend I made a site page about

it.

http://www.danasview.net/SJS.htm

Dana

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the reason they say you should not start treatment of thyroid without addressing

adrenal issues is due to the fact that with out adequate amounts of cortisol you

cannot use or tolerate thyroid hormones...this goes for whether you have too

much or too little cortisol...so the thyroid hormone can pool and not get into

the cells....or you can have intolerance issues that feel bad and then cause

more issues with adrenals....other possibilites these are just a couple of

things...there is a good group naturalthyroidhormonesadrenals

they are really good at helping set it all straight but there are very good

reasons to do it in the right order.....i have had to do this with 3 kids,

myself, and my husband.....they helped me a lot..

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: missing adult teeth?

Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 8:56 AM

 

> I read that we cannot fix the hypothyroid issue before we address adrenal

issue.

I would be very skeptical of anything or anyone who indicates you " can't " do

something. It may be that adrenals and thyroid work together in some fashion [i

have not researched that], and you may not have as good of results if one is

weak while the other is being corrected, but if your child is deficient in

selenium, iodine, or tyrosine, why couldn't you start giving them?

>>My son has both of them. Dana, may I ask you, did your child have adrenal

issues, and in which order did you address it? Or, you just started thyroid

support?

Because my kids had all the symptoms of hypothyroid, I started with thyroid

supps. Selenium I started many years ago, iodine and tyrosine last summer.

I have tried Thorne ACE, it was a decidedly NASTY experience. In fact, the most

recent time I tried it was bad enough that last weekend I made a site page about

it.

http://www.danasview.net/SJS.htm

Dana

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Thanks for the answer, Dana!

My son is not deficient in tyrosine, according to his AAT, so I will try iodine

first. As for ACE, I recently had very bad trial experience with AdrenErgizer.

After taking half capsule (125mg) I almost crashed with a hypoglicemia, had

headache for several days later. I also feel constantly thirsty, and want to

check my blood sugar...

San

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Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 3:56:33 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: missing adult teeth?

 

> I read that we cannot fix the hypothyroid issue before we address adrenal

>issue.

I would be very skeptical of anything or anyone who indicates you " can't " do

something. It may be that adrenals and thyroid work together in some fashion [i

have not researched that], and you may not have as good of results if one is

weak while the other is being corrected, but if your child is deficient in

selenium, iodine, or tyrosine, why couldn't you start giving them?

>>My son has both of them. Dana, may I ask you, did your child have adrenal

>>issues, and in which order did you address it? Or, you just started thyroid

>>support?

Because my kids had all the symptoms of hypothyroid, I started with thyroid

supps. Selenium I started many years ago, iodine and tyrosine last summer.

I have tried Thorne ACE, it was a decidedly NASTY experience. In fact, the most

recent time I tried it was bad enough that last weekend I made a site page about

it.

http://www.danasview.net/SJS.htm

Dana

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> the reason they say

Who is " they " ?

I just did a quick search and the sites I found recommended addressing the

problems both at the same time.

Dana

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Thanks Dana. I appreciate it.

April

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> Thank you Dana! Would you mind telling me the ages of your kids and the

dosage you gave them at the time?

They were in the 10-14yo range at the time. I started low doses and worked up.

Selenium - 50-200mcg

Iodine - 50-225mcg

Tyrosine - 250-500mg

Dana

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mostly the adrenals group......and sttm also has good info on getting adrenals

in shape and how it plays into thyroid ...personally also had bad results with

my kids who had adrenal issues ...which i just made worse by doing just thyroid

without getting those in better shape first...so we had to back track and wasted

a lot of time....i am sure some have success doing it that way....but not us...

 

also in one of my kids when i fixed the adrenal issue the thyroid issue fixed

itself.....dr lowe has good info on this too...so do orthers....

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: missing adult teeth?

Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 9:30 AM

 

> the reason they say

Who is " they " ?

I just did a quick search and the sites I found recommended addressing the

problems both at the same time.

Dana

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I had an interesting conversation with a dentist about this recently. My

daughter's permanent front teeth just came in and one of them has a large white

spot on it (they are also extremely crooked and will need braces, which will not

go well). I asked him what could have caused this as I was very careful with

fluoride (didn't give at all until she could spit, etc.). He said it wasn't the

fluoride because if it was it would have been spots on all her teeth and that

they are seeing these spots in kids in dramatically increasing numbers. He said

he has friends all over the country who are seeing the same thing. He also said

it is something they are only seeing in our country and that he has friends who

go to third world countries, where they have terrible oral hygeine, but they

don't have the spots! Also, most interesting is he made a reference to

" developmental issues " but I never mentioned she has autism (and she was not

with me).

>

> I'm not sure either, but I can tell you that after my son was mercury

> poisoned, allhis baby teeth began to demineralize, and the permanent ones

> tht have come in, don't look normal. He is going to need braces -- which I

> have no idea how this is going to work for him since we are chelating and he

> has sensory issues.

>

> I know I was told early on that mercury poisoning causes abnormal mineral

> transport and really messes with calcium. If the body doesn't absorb or

> metabolize enough, the body will suck calcium out of the teeth.

>

> Haven

>

>

>

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