Re: hair test results for anderP and Ralph P--I'd appreciate input

[Guest guest]

I have to say I've seen hundreds of hair tests and their arsenic or boron levels

aren't that high. I'm more concerned with their lead. But....

Significantly elevated arsenic is a concern IF the tests don't meet counting

rules. And they do meet rules so I do not feel their levels of aresenic are

extremely worrisome. I'm more concerned with the mercury and lead.

Sources of arsenic if your curious:

Do you have smoke stacks near by? Arsenic can come from smokestacks, older

pressure treated lumber (if your home has a deck or wooden play equipment),

soil, pesticides, lawn treatments, pesticides on produce, and eating chicken.

But again, I do not see these levels as a severe concern. They will come down

with chelation.

boron: this is not a concern unless its very low on a test that does not meet

rules, that would imply deficiency. Boron is needed to form bones. So the fact

that theirs is a bit up isn't a concern.

: I would want to see his lead lower than that. He has four minerals in

the red, so he has mercury. Cal/mag down from sod/pot means his adrenals are

slow so he may benefit from adrenal cortex glandular. He has a low

sodium/potassium ration which suggests getting his thyroid tested. Because his

test meets rules none of the minerals are reliable indicators of body levels.

Because his test meets rules you cannot use the iodine as a reliable indicator

of him getting too much. I don't know of the low thyroid implication has any

bearing on him getting iodine from you. (assuming you're nursing?)

His thyroid may or may not be low...again its just an indicator, not definitive.

Ralph: Also his lead is a bit high. hair test are previous three months

exposure...so the lead they have isn't that old. His test also meets counting

rules for mercury with 4 in the red. His cal/mg is down from sod/pot so he also

has slow adrenals due to mercury and would benefit from Adrenal cortex

glandular.

they both have lower ca/p ratios indicating they are fast metabolizers and would

benefit from higher fat diets with a lot of vitamin d.

dmsa with ala. Ala will get the mercury out of the brain and remove arsenic.

Dmsa will lower the lead and help clear body mercury.

Since Pfizer has been sued for violations of the clean air act....even though

metals are not listed..who knows what they are burning in their smoke stacks.

At best, reduce whatever you have control over, make sure you're water does not

contain heavy metals or other chemicals and chelate.

Hope that helps!

Jan

>

> Dear lovely people:

>

> We just got the hair test results for my 2yr old DS (P) and my

husband (RalphP). What is most disturbing to me is the high arsenic in both. Has

anyone else had experience with this? Any ideas for where the exposure comes

from (from what Cutler says, arsenic stays in hair only for short time, so it's

gonna be a recent/chronic exposure). We live next to Pfizer, which has been

prosecuted elsewhere for arsenic dumping. I figure that's the cause, but not

sure. Given a current exposure, I'd like to eliminate it before the boys

chelate.

>

> Also, shows high iodine--I've been taking 4 iodoral a day for about

9 mos, so I'm guessing that's a false elevation. Same with selenium--we take

high mineral salt and also gets custom vitamin supplement for kids

with trisomy 21 that includes selenium and iodine. So I'm guessing selenium is

also a false elevation. The boron I have no idea. Anyone with ideas on the

boron? Any feedback?

>

> DH (RalphP) shows deranged mineral transport--does this show adrenal support

is needed? Thyroid issues? High potassium, low cal-mag.

>

> Both boys show same elevated lead, arsenic, and boron. Wondering if it's worth

testing the water. I had our soil tested a few years ago, so it's not that. The

lead, I know, is probably old exposure, but arsenic and boron?

>

> I'd love feedback. Kids with trisomy have weird mineral transport

anyway--that's why he takes the specialized supp. They need more

minerals/vitamins to meet the demands of the extra genetic material. It's a form

of hypermetabolism.

>

> The question for me is not do we chelate. Seems like a no-brainer. The

question is what are these showing? What causes high arsenic and boron? What

issues that can be addressed do you see?

>

> I would really appreciate input on these tests.

>

> best wishes and many thanks,

> Fiona

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jan:

Thanks for the feedback. I will print this and go away and do thyroid tests on

the guys. Yes, we also have a sub base where they do a lot of welding across the

river from us. Lead, I thought you couldn't tell if it was recent or old--that

it showed up even if it was long time ago. How can you tell if it's recent?

I figured we'd be chelating anyway. I just wanted to have a better understanding

of what the test shows. Thanks for that. Funny--we did a TED and discovered

chicken and chicken eggs were a food " sensitivity " in my son, so we haven't done

them in oh maybe a year and a half, since he was 6 mos old. Local duck eggs

don't seem to bother us, i've discovered. I'm starting to see that what I've

been thinking of as food sensitivities are reactions to specific foods that have

been specifically treated with toxins. Makes me ready to grow and keep my own

chickens/ducks/goats.

Will keep you posted, and thanks again, Jan, for your experience.

best wishes,

Fiona

> >

> > Dear lovely people:

> >

> > We just got the hair test results for my 2yr old DS (P) and my

husband (RalphP). What is most disturbing to me is the high arsenic in both. Has

anyone else had experience with this? Any ideas for where the exposure comes

from (from what Cutler says, arsenic stays in hair only for short time, so it's

gonna be a recent/chronic exposure). We live next to Pfizer, which has been

prosecuted elsewhere for arsenic dumping. I figure that's the cause, but not

sure. Given a current exposure, I'd like to eliminate it before the boys

chelate.

> >

> > Also, shows high iodine--I've been taking 4 iodoral a day for

about 9 mos, so I'm guessing that's a false elevation. Same with selenium--we

take high mineral salt and also gets custom vitamin supplement for

kids with trisomy 21 that includes selenium and iodine. So I'm guessing selenium

is also a false elevation. The boron I have no idea. Anyone with ideas on the

boron? Any feedback?

> >

> > DH (RalphP) shows deranged mineral transport--does this show adrenal support

is needed? Thyroid issues? High potassium, low cal-mag.

> >

> > Both boys show same elevated lead, arsenic, and boron. Wondering if it's

worth testing the water. I had our soil tested a few years ago, so it's not

that. The lead, I know, is probably old exposure, but arsenic and boron?

> >

> > I'd love feedback. Kids with trisomy have weird mineral transport

anyway--that's why he takes the specialized supp. They need more

minerals/vitamins to meet the demands of the extra genetic material. It's a form

of hypermetabolism.

> >

> > The question for me is not do we chelate. Seems like a no-brainer. The

question is what are these showing? What causes high arsenic and boron? What

issues that can be addressed do you see?

> >

> > I would really appreciate input on these tests.

> >

> > best wishes and many thanks,

> > Fiona

> >

>