Re: nejm: The Age-Old Struggle against the Antivaccinationists

[Guest guest]

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My child regressed immediately following vaccines. I walked in with a

healthy, verbal child, and walked out with an unhealthy non-verbal one. He

has improved dramatically with biomed over the years and has regained all

forms of speech, though he is still about five years delayed.

I am not anti-vaccination. I can see the value of vaccines in situations

where there is a clear and present danger. what I am against is vaccinating

children too young with too many vaccines that all filled with numerous

toxins. I am certainly against vaccinating my son again and losing all we

have worked so hard to regain.

I believe the over vaccination of children is far more dangerous than the

overuse of antibiotics, which the medical mainstream concedes has been a

huge problem. While I hope I do not have to re-vaccinate my son again and

risk further biomedical damage, we live on a farm, and if he is ever bitten

by a rabid animal.... --I think most of us parents are reasonable people and

many of us have done next to nothing accept research since our kids

regressed, so we are knowledgeable abut science.

I went looking for a reason to continue to vaccinate after my son was

damaged, but the research I found --and more importantly the lack of

reliable safety studies -- was enough to make me think twice.

Having them vilify Dr. Wakefield and his supposed conflicts of interest when

they don't even mention Offit's should be enough to give any parent pause.

All parents should get educated and make the decision for their children. I

never tell parents not to vaccinate, but I do tell them to get educated and

to look at a variety of sources in order to make an informed decision.

The other thing that bothers me is that the vaccine schedule continues to

rise. I am wondering when they will decide when enough is enough.

thirty-six vaccines is way too many in my opinion, and to vaccinate for such

benign illnesses such as chicken pox boggles the mind. I don't think we

know enough about how necessary getting sick while young is to increased

immunological health later on in life.

there are far to many conflicts of interest in the present system, and when

they begin to end these and create laws that keep these conflicts of

interest out of the equation, then I might start to listen.

Your writings helped me a lot in the early years after my son's regression,

and I thank you wholeheartedly for that. Keep up the good work.

[Guest guest]

I wish that doctors' trade organizations could read your well-reasoned response.

Consider sending your letter to the NEJM or to the AAP.

- Hokkanen

Re: nejm: The Age-Old Struggle against the Antivaccinationists

Posted by: " Haven DeLay " hdelay@... shygirl75158

Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:00 am (PST)

,

My child regressed immediately following vaccines. I walked in with a

healthy, verbal child, and walked out with an unhealthy non-verbal one. He

has improved dramatically with biomed over the years and has regained all

forms of speech, though he is still about five years delayed.

I am not anti-vaccination. I can see the value of vaccines in situations

where there is a clear and present danger. what I am against is vaccinating

children too young with too many vaccines that all filled with numerous

toxins. I am certainly against vaccinating my son again and losing all we

have worked so hard to regain.

I believe the over vaccination of children is far more dangerous than the

overuse of antibiotics, which the medical mainstream concedes has been a

huge problem. While I hope I do not have to re-vaccinate my son again and

risk further biomedical damage, we live on a farm, and if he is ever bitten

by a rabid animal.... --I think most of us parents are reasonable people and

many of us have done next to nothing accept research since our kids

regressed, so we are knowledgeable abut science.

I went looking for a reason to continue to vaccinate after my son was

damaged, but the research I found --and more importantly the lack of

reliable safety studies -- was enough to make me think twice.

Having them vilify Dr. Wakefield and his supposed conflicts of interest when

they don't even mention Offit's should be enough to give any parent pause.

All parents should get educated and make the decision for their children. I

never tell parents not to vaccinate, but I do tell them to get educated and

to look at a variety of sources in order to make an informed decision.

The other thing that bothers me is that the vaccine schedule continues to

rise. I am wondering when they will decide when enough is enough.

thirty-six vaccines is way too many in my opinion, and to vaccinate for such

benign illnesses such as chicken pox boggles the mind. I don't think we

know enough about how necessary getting sick while young is to increased

immunological health later on in life.

there are far to many conflicts of interest in the present system, and when

they begin to end these and create laws that keep these conflicts of

interest out of the equation, then I might start to listen.

Your writings helped me a lot in the early years after my son's regression,

and I thank you wholeheartedly for that. Keep up the good work.

[Guest guest]

Check these cigarette ads from 30's 40's 50' - SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE PROVES

SAFETY... http://ht.ly/3Fu1b

If you lived in the 50's and claimed cigarettes caused any health problems,

DOCTORS would point out all the SCIENTIFIC MEDICAL STUDIES that REFUTED ANY

LINK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking

http://www.tobacco.org/resources/history/Tobacco_History20-2.html

It took 40 years of court hearings to reverse that belief.

Prescription Drugs approved, later pulled from market

http://www.mastersinhealthcare.net/blog/2010/10-prescription-drugs-pulled-from-t\

he-shelves-and-why/

DARVON taken off market been on since 1950's

http://www.newsmild.com/popular-painkillers-taken-off-the-market

Why can't we be open minded enough to compare vaccinated vs unvaccinated kids

for ASD? Actually it has been compared and there is a HUGE correlation. see

GenerationRescue.org

Why are so many accepting medical schools know everything?

How can they be sure with ZERO tests of MULTIPLE VACCINES that there are no

problems when such a huge number of parents report problems?

Why did the VAERS DATABASE go PRIVATE and DISAPPEAR? (our tax dollars pay for

it)

Why do over 80% of the people involved in our vaccine policies have financial

interest? Shouldn't they be neutral?

Why is Poul Thorsen still in charge of Danish Autism Data and US Vaccine Policy

based on his studies after he forged/defrauded CDC of Millions of dollars?

http://ht.ly/3EKqK

How can the media not read 11 pages after 11 years, not investigate a biased

reporter and libel a Dr for reporting what parents said? And asking a question?

Does any else smell something rotten in Denmark?

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> A. Poland, M.D., and M. son, M.D.

> N Engl J Med 2011; 364:97-99

> January 13, 2011

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> people who are simply ignorant about science (or " innumerate " --- unable

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> science-grounded decision making) to a radical fringe element who use

> deliberate mistruths, intimidation, falsified data, and threats of

> violence in efforts to prevent the use of vaccines and to silence

> critics. Antivaccinationists tend toward complete mistrust of government

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[Guest guest]

Just don't let anyone penetrate/invade your space without your consent, (Don't

co-operate without as much) this being an issue for *choice* if not such choice

of responsibility and control, of self-control.

On how to serve justice for your self? That anyone else or that science would

Glavic

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> > A. Poland, M.D., and M. son, M.D.

> > N Engl J Med 2011; 364:97-99

> > January 13, 2011

> > http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1010594

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