Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that a federal law bars lawsuits against drug makers over serious side effects from childhood vaccines. http://news./s/ap/20110222/ap_on_re_us/us_supreme_court_vaccine_lawsuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Why are they immune, and we all get stuck holding the bag without even being given real full disclosure? Our financial lives lie in ruins while other families line up like lambs to the slaughter. If the SC won't listen then it is time to be anti-vaccine if they are not going to provide for the children damaged. It is time to Boycott. If I had known the truth about vaccines, the amount the VICP has paid out, and the immunity to litigation afforded doctors and drug companies, I would have told them they could stick them in their...... That is TWICE now in a year that I am disgusted and ashamed of the SC. Do you see what happened in Egypt? Do you see how it is spreading? What has happened repeatedly throughout history when the middle class disappears and the masses become disenfranchised? The sad part here is that with all those viruses they keep in reserve " for experimentation " ...... if their profits drop too low..... THEY will be the ones to unleash the next pandemic and start a panic. They will do ANYTHING for profit. When you have damaged/poisoned a whole generation of children, what else won't you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Remember the song: money, money, money? On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> wrote: > > > Why are they immune, and we all get stuck holding the bag without even > being > given real full disclosure? Our financial lives lie in ruins while other > families line up like lambs to the slaughter. If the SC won't listen then > it is time to be anti-vaccine if they are not going to provide for the > children damaged. It is time to Boycott. > > If I had known the truth about vaccines, the amount the VICP has paid out, > and the immunity to litigation afforded doctors and drug companies, I would > have told them they could stick them in their...... > > That is TWICE now in a year that I am disgusted and ashamed of the SC. > > Do you see what happened in Egypt? Do you see how it is spreading? What > has happened repeatedly throughout history when the middle class disappears > and the masses become disenfranchised? > > The sad part here is that with all those viruses they keep in reserve " for > experimentation " ...... if their profits drop too low..... THEY will be the > ones to unleash the next pandemic and start a panic. They will do ANYTHING > for profit. When you have damaged/poisoned a whole generation of children, > what else won't you do? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 More perspective on as much. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_s8WcfUMM & NR=1 In the series, of YouTube videos associated with this post, (that it might still be there, somewhere) I especially found the one where Wakefield called the decision by authorities condemning (denouncing/demeaning) further research (and us?) as disgraceful, on what links there might be between vaccines and autism, especially enerviating.. . It is a national disgrace, (if not worse?) and perhaps worthy of a revolution (insurrection? Hey) Certainly worthy of justice in that respect, I figure. (Where the state doesn't do justice?) Something is especially sinful and criminal in all that is going on (on many levels, and in many ways, I Especially figure) is my sense of it, especially where so many question remain unanswered, or are censored in the first place.. . Me thinks (Feels) that's the bigger problem of our problems Glavic > > > > > > > Why are they immune, and we all get stuck holding the bag without even > > being > > given real full disclosure? Our financial lives lie in ruins while other > > families line up like lambs to the slaughter. If the SC won't listen then > > it is time to be anti-vaccine if they are not going to provide for the > > children damaged. It is time to Boycott. > > > > If I had known the truth about vaccines, the amount the VICP has paid out, > > and the immunity to litigation afforded doctors and drug companies, I would > > have told them they could stick them in their...... > > > > That is TWICE now in a year that I am disgusted and ashamed of the SC. > > > > Do you see what happened in Egypt? Do you see how it is spreading? What > > has happened repeatedly throughout history when the middle class disappears > > and the masses become disenfranchised? > > > > The sad part here is that with all those viruses they keep in reserve " for > > experimentation " ...... if their profits drop too low..... THEY will be the > > ones to unleash the next pandemic and start a panic. They will do ANYTHING > > for profit. When you have damaged/poisoned a whole generation of children, > > what else won't you do? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 > > The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that a federal law bars lawsuits against drug makers over serious side effects from childhood vaccines. > > http://news./s/ap/20110222/ap_on_re_us/us_supreme_court_vaccine_lawsuit > My initial issue was that families have no recourse other than the vaccine court. But after reading the article, my concern is this line . . . " Scalia confirmed that outcome Tuesday. He said that when a vaccine is properly prepared and is accompanied by proper directions and warnings, lawsuits over its side effects are not allowed under the 1986 law. " In other words, regardless of the side effects, up to and including death, you are not entitled to sue outside the vaccine court which were set up to protect vaccine manufacturers. In many cases, parents must immunize their kids to get access to schools and various programs. So they make immunizations mandatory, then say that you can't file a lawsuit elsewhere even if something goes horribly wrong and the vaccine court disregards the evidence or gives a woefully inadequate settlement. If I choose to take an antibiotic, I have a choice among many agents or I can say no thanks. And if something goes wrong, regardless of whether it's in the warnings or not, I'm not sent to a special court. I don't think that peds routinely go over the warnings or give a copy to the parents to consider. The implications for the flu shot, Gardisil are frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Me thinks (feels) if you take all inhumane actions,laws ect. that are recently being fast tracked and faster by the day and try to put them on roads heading towards the same destination of one major highway to dead end at what? To me I see depopulation as the only answer to all. These fellow human beings are as smart as we are and DO know what happens when heavy metals get in our bodies and have found endless ways to deliver such to hurt fellow human beings with such knowledge.Snail pace holocost? I said 18years ago after the discovery of 1 of my 3 children had autism, that somebody knew what is causing this and they are not going to pay for it. (ins, gov.so on) Just brain burping [ ] Re: OT: Court rules against parents in drug vaccine case More perspective on as much. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_s8WcfUMM & NR=1 In the series, of YouTube videos associated with this post, (that it might still be there, somewhere) I especially found the one where Wakefield called the decision by authorities condemning (denouncing/demeaning) further research (and us?) as disgraceful, on what links there might be between vaccines and autism, especially enerviating.. . It is a national disgrace, (if not worse?) and perhaps worthy of a revolution (insurrection? Hey) Certainly worthy of justice in that respect, I figure. (Where the state doesn't do justice?) Something is especially sinful and criminal in all that is going on (on many levels, and in many ways, I Especially figure) is my sense of it, especially where so many question remain unanswered, or are censored in the first place.. . Me thinks (Feels) that's the bigger problem of our problems Glavic > > > > > > > Why are they immune, and we all get stuck holding the bag without even > > being > > given real full disclosure? Our financial lives lie in ruins while other > > families line up like lambs to the slaughter. If the SC won't listen then > > it is time to be anti-vaccine if they are not going to provide for the > > children damaged. It is time to Boycott. > > > > If I had known the truth about vaccines, the amount the VICP has paid out, > > and the immunity to litigation afforded doctors and drug companies, I would > > have told them they could stick them in their...... > > > > That is TWICE now in a year that I am disgusted and ashamed of the SC. > > > > Do you see what happened in Egypt? Do you see how it is spreading? What > > has happened repeatedly throughout history when the middle class disappears > > and the masses become disenfranchised? > > > > The sad part here is that with all those viruses they keep in reserve " for > > experimentation " ...... if their profits drop too low..... THEY will be the > > ones to unleash the next pandemic and start a panic. They will do ANYTHING > > for profit. When you have damaged/poisoned a whole generation of children, > > what else won't you do? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 You could be right. If it's what you feel, it's right in that respect, that anything else should matter in how to deal with as much? (as everything? so meaningful? .. . call it a brain burp if you will.. . I figure that has something to do with serving justice if not such justice. I figure your question needs to be addressed for justice to be served! that I don't know what justice is.. . I agree, that ignorance is not (or should not be) the basis of the issue, (of our malaise, or demise?) and much remains to be answered for, that *justice* would be served, that anything else should matter.. . Mike > > > > > > > > > > > Why are they immune, and we all get stuck holding the bag without even > > > being > > > given real full disclosure? Our financial lives lie in ruins while other > > > families line up like lambs to the slaughter. If the SC won't listen then > > > it is time to be anti-vaccine if they are not going to provide for the > > > children damaged. It is time to Boycott. > > > > > > If I had known the truth about vaccines, the amount the VICP has paid out, > > > and the immunity to litigation afforded doctors and drug companies, I would > > > have told them they could stick them in their...... > > > > > > That is TWICE now in a year that I am disgusted and ashamed of the SC. > > > > > > Do you see what happened in Egypt? Do you see how it is spreading? What > > > has happened repeatedly throughout history when the middle class disappears > > > and the masses become disenfranchised? > > > > > > The sad part here is that with all those viruses they keep in reserve " for > > > experimentation " ...... if their profits drop too low..... THEY will be the > > > ones to unleash the next pandemic and start a panic. They will do ANYTHING > > > for profit. When you have damaged/poisoned a whole generation of children, > > > what else won't you do? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I do think you are right. I think it is a way for them to " reduce the surplus population. " I do think that at the bottom line that is what it is really about. How many of these kids will get to have children of their own? For us, our son is the ONLY male to carry on the family name. isn't that familiacide or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 That's just it. We were not given proper warning. We were not given full disclosure. We were not given the opportunity for " informed consent. " I emphatically stated that my son was NOT to be given thimerosal-containing vaccines. the doc and I went round and round. then she said she had to leave the room a minute. Then she came back and said okay, and when I asked about the ingredients, she revealed nothing. My son immediately lost speech. The next morning was a nightmare as he did not wake me and I found him staring blankly into space in his crib. When I scooped him up, he went limp like a rag doll. I called the doctor frantic. She just kept telling me to calm down and I was overreacting blah, blah, blah. But I still didn't even go to that place inside my head thinking she lied aobut the ingredients. I would take him inot the docotr's and at one point she said, " Lots of boys lose speech at this age " like it was normal! By the following December we took him to a speech and language clinic. since he wouldn't even respond to his name anymore, we thought he might be deaf as after the shots, he started getting ear infections all the time and had one burst ear drum. She still put us off and wouldn't even write down our concerns. but at the speech/language clinic they ran a lot of tests, and they suggested to us that he had autism. My husband scooped him up and ran out of the room. He was in denial for a while after that. I called the doctor back and told her what the clinic said, and she said, " they shouldn't have told you that. " Then I said, was there thimerosal in the shots you gave him that day? " And she kind of laughed and said, " well, he..he..well, yes. " I was livid. Things got even worse after that. it was as if she knew she could do whatever she wanted and she couldn't be sued! She wouldn't report the reaction to VAERS. She kept denying there was one. I said, my son has not said a single word since the shots. he won't even look me in the eye. He doesn't answer to his name. He walks on his tippy toes, and he doesn't sleep anymore and wakes screaming for up to two hours every night. It was a nightmare! The following March, he got his first bout of pneumonia. He's had a total of eight. He's had numerous bouts of strep and radiating staph. He suffered debilitating constipation and has mega colon from it. He suffered excruciating stomach pains until we learned about the diet. Our son would have staring spells that were frighteningly like catatonia. It would scare me nearly to death. It is absurd that in a country that says it is free and that it is a democracy, that children can't get justice. Now even the SC is corrupt. I'm so sick of it! I never thought I would ever feel like I had lost faith in my own country. Is there any other with better preservation of parental rights, the right not to vaccinate, and the right to seek justice, or is this as good as it gets? My son is markedly better after a lot of hard work and our life savings plus.... No we get to live paycheck to paycheck while some drug lords live in mansions and drive big cars? What do we do when the Supreme Court is wrong!? How do we bring down the Goliaths and show them for what they really are? CHILD POISONERS. If only we could win enough public support such that no one would want to own stock in any of them! Next they will take away our supplements and force us all to be hooked on their drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 This sounds just like my son's case!!! He is now 12 and I am still very angry!!! He had every sign of encephalitis/encephalopathy after vaccines. What they call " autism " is the residual damage from this. They injure our children and then deny even their rehabilitation. Very sad indeed. Ada. Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.- Albert Einstein Re: [ ] Re: OT: Court rules against parents in drug vaccine case That's just it. We were not given proper warning. We were not given full disclosure. We were not given the opportunity for " informed consent. " I emphatically stated that my son was NOT to be given thimerosal-containing vaccines. the doc and I went round and round. then she said she had to leave the room a minute. Then she came back and said okay, and when I asked about the ingredients, she revealed nothing. My son immediately lost speech. The next morning was a nightmare as he did not wake me and I found him staring blankly into space in his crib. When I scooped him up, he went limp like a rag doll. I called the doctor frantic. She just kept telling me to calm down and I was overreacting blah, blah, blah. But I still didn't even go to that place inside my head thinking she lied aobut the ingredients. I would take him inot the docotr's and at one point she said, " Lots of boys lose speech at this age " like it was normal! By the following December we took him to a speech and language clinic. since he wouldn't even respond to his name anymore, we thought he might be deaf as after the shots, he started getting ear infections all the time and had one burst ear drum. She still put us off and wouldn't even write down our concerns. but at the speech/language clinic they ran a lot of tests, and they suggested to us that he had autism. My husband scooped him up and ran out of the room. He was in denial for a while after that. I called the doctor back and told her what the clinic said, and she said, " they shouldn't have told you that. " Then I said, was there thimerosal in the shots you gave him that day? " And she kind of laughed and said, " well, he..he..well, yes. " I was livid. Things got even worse after that. it was as if she knew she could do whatever she wanted and she couldn't be sued! She wouldn't report the reaction to VAERS. She kept denying there was one. I said, my son has not said a single word since the shots. he won't even look me in the eye. He doesn't answer to his name. He walks on his tippy toes, and he doesn't sleep anymore and wakes screaming for up to two hours every night. It was a nightmare! The following March, he got his first bout of pneumonia. He's had a total of eight. He's had numerous bouts of strep and radiating staph. He suffered debilitating constipation and has mega colon from it. He suffered excruciating stomach pains until we learned about the diet. Our son would have staring spells that were frighteningly like catatonia. It would scare me nearly to death. It is absurd that in a country that says it is free and that it is a democracy, that children can't get justice. Now even the SC is corrupt. I'm so sick of it! I never thought I would ever feel like I had lost faith in my own country. Is there any other with better preservation of parental rights, the right not to vaccinate, and the right to seek justice, or is this as good as it gets? My son is markedly better after a lot of hard work and our life savings plus.... No we get to live paycheck to paycheck while some drug lords live in mansions and drive big cars? What do we do when the Supreme Court is wrong!? How do we bring down the Goliaths and show them for what they really are? CHILD POISONERS. If only we could win enough public support such that no one would want to own stock in any of them! Next they will take away our supplements and force us all to be hooked on their drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Dear Ada, My son's eleven. It sounds like our son's were poisoned around the same time. I am sure that doctor has forgotten us -- forgotten my son. I think of her and what she did to my son quite often. I have this " fantasy " that one day I will get in an elevator and there she will be, and I slap her face. I have never in my life hit another human being, but still, once in a while I think aobut slapping her. Napoleon said that when all was said and done, there would be more doctors in white coats in hell than all the generals who ever lived. It is hard not to be angry. They stole our children's childhoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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