Rash

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Is the rash somewhat like hives? and when he gets hot or in hot water it swells

even more?

Maddviking@... wrote:

> My brother-in-law has a skin rash. Doctors have told him it is

> excema. When

> he gets in any kind of heated water (like a bath or hot tube) it flares

> up

> immediately and itches like crazy. Left unchecked, his legs will

> swell. It

> never gets on his face, hands or upper back. Mainly on front torso,

> legs and

> a little on his arms. He's fouhgt this for about a year or so.

> Shockingly,

> the doctors have not helped much except in reducing his bank account.

>

> Any ideas or miracle cures out there?

> Max

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If what he has is eczema, it is probably due to an allergy. What

is his blood type? My eczema cleared up when I gave up wheat.

Now it only rears its ugly head if I slip up. I had several huge

welts on my breasts that I was told would never disappear even if

the eczema went away. Well I am here to tell you that even the

thick skin is gone, and my skin is completely normal after years

of being told to live with it. The medical establishment only

wanted to treat the symptoms, not cure the problem.

If he hasn't seen an allergist (I still haven't), he might try to

find out what he is allergic to that way.

I hope he can conquer it.

Kate, in sunny So. CA (it's cloudy today)

Maddviking@... wrote:

> My brother-in-law has a skin rash. Doctors have told him it

> is excema. When

> he gets in any kind of heated water (like a bath or hot tube)

> it flares up

> immediately and itches like crazy. Left unchecked, his legs

> will swell. It

> never gets on his face, hands or upper back. Mainly on front

> torso, legs and

> a little on his arms. He's fouhgt this for about a year or so.

> Shockingly,

> the doctors have not helped much except in reducing his bank

> account.

>

> Any ideas or miracle cures out there?

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Is he a type O?

I used to have skin rashes. They disappeared when I went on the O

diet. My guess is that corn and wheat were causing my skin problems.

> My brother-in-law has a skin rash. Doctors have told him it is

excema. When

> he gets in any kind of heated water (like a bath or hot tube) it

flares up

> immediately and itches like crazy. Left unchecked, his legs will

swell. It

> never gets on his face, hands or upper back. Mainly on front

torso, legs and

> a little on his arms. He's fouhgt this for about a year or so.

Shockingly,

> the doctors have not helped much except in reducing his bank

account.

>

> Any ideas or miracle cures out there?

> Max

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Max,

My Dad got a rash after doing a job at a chemical plant. Anyway he went to

squesillions (that's a new number) of doctors to no avail. He finally got

to see some super-expert guy who told him " Eat lots more green leafy

vegetables and drink lots more water " This complaint that had troubled my

Dad for nearly two years so that he couldn't even wear shoes, went in a

couple of weeks.

This particular Doc said that this is the treatment for nearly all skin

rashes.

JK

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From: Maddviking@...

My brother-in-law has a skin rash. Doctors have told him it is excema.

When

he gets in any kind of heated water (like a bath or hot tube) it flares up

immediately and itches like crazy. Left unchecked, his legs will swell. It

never gets on his face, hands or upper back. Mainly on front torso, legs

and

a little on his arms. He's fouhgt this for about a year or so. Shockingly,

the doctors have not helped much except in reducing his bank account.

Any ideas or miracle cures out there?

Max

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>My brother-in-law has a skin rash. Doctors have told him it is excema.

>When

>he gets in any kind of heated water (like a bath or hot tube) it flares up

>immediately and itches like crazy. Left unchecked, his legs will swell. It

>never gets on his face, hands or upper back. Mainly on front torso, legs

Rush is a symptom of poorly functioning liver and GI tract.

Skin Rush and an allergy is a hyperactive response of the immune system to

certain substances that are 'foreign' to our bodies.

Liver is the main organ inside human body who's function is to process

substances that are 'foreign' to our body and to make them " friendly " .

Majority of the liver's blood supply is venous blood! The pattern of blood

flow in the liver can be summarized as follows:

Roughly 75% of the blood entering the liver is venous blood from the portal

vein.

Importantly, all of the venous blood returning from the small intestine,

stomach, pancreas and spleen converges into the portal vein.

One consequence of this is that the liver gets " first pickings " of

everything absorbed in the small intestine, which, as we will see, is where

virtually all nutrients are absorbed.

So, it is liver's job to process all the foods and water that your

intestines have been absorbing.

The remaining 25% of the blood supply to the liver is arterial blood from

the hepatic artery.

If you've developed allergies or skin rush, you most likely have liver and

gall bladder malfunction due to numerous intrahepatic stones and/or gallstones.

Most allergies are caused by primary liver stones (intrahepatic stones).

When liver is full of stones, it's function of processing substances that

are 'foreign' to our body is decreased.

That causes rush.

He should do:

- water cure + salt cure

- parasites cleanse with liver tonic herbs (wormwood, black walnut,

dandelion, green leaves herbs,...)

- liver flush every 10 - 14 days.

- improve diet

After 3 - 10 flushes, rush will disappear.

You may find more info here:

http://www.curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=33

sincerely

Espen

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Carolyn, is it an open sore? have you tried peroxide to clean it? if so what

happens? let me know, Mog

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No...it's not an open sore. It's just red. I haven't tried to clean

it except for general washing in the shower. I did put triple

antibiotic ointment on it last night. It's still exactly the same

though this morning.

Carolyn

> Carolyn, is it an open sore? have you tried peroxide to clean it? if so what

> happens? let me know, Mog

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I had a pretty nasty rash around my eyes, about silver dollar size, that the

doctors could do nothing about. I had this for almost a year, sometimes it

was quite sensitive. I believe that it was candida related. About 4 months

into Primal Defense it was finally gone totally, and has not returned. The

skin around the eyes is " thinner " than it used to be, due to the cortisone

creams the doctors had me trying. Nothing worked and the doctors would just

shrug.

Diane

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Your description of that rash sounds like Lupus to me.

Good Luck,

Chas.

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I also get some different side affects from prednisone and they sometimes linger for a week or two after I have finished taking it but not months. Maybe try to get a second opinion to see if you can find the cause. Is the rash itchy? If it is not really bothering you it may not hurt to see if it will go away on it's own. Maybe even some antihistamine...

Rob

rash

Had a rash develop around my eyes, nose and mouth. Saw a dermatologist yesterday. He says it's a reaction to prednisone. I haven't been on prednisone since last winter...at any rate, he wants to put me on minocycline for a month to take it away. My question is: has anyone had this same rash? and, I really don't like taking antibiotics, what are the chances that the rash will just disappear and not come back again?

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In a message dated 6/11/2003 11:47:13 AM Mountain Daylight Time, joaniem@... writes:

Had a rash develop around my eyes, nose and mouth. Saw a dermatologist yesterday. He says it's a reaction to prednisone. I haven't been on prednisone since last winter...at any rate, he wants to put me on minocycline for a month to take it away. My question is: has anyone had this same rash? and, I really don't like taking antibiotics, what are the chances that the rash will just disappear and not come back again?

Joane,

My personal opinion is that it sounds like he is treating you for some type of acne. Minocycline, a type of tetracycline, is frequently used for various forms of acne for 1-2 months. Though minocycline is an antibiotic, it is used for its anti-inflammatory properties in the case of acne. From my standpoint it seems unusual (or unlikely) though that it would be due to prednisone if you haven't been taking prednisone for several months.

In any case, I would suggest that you ask the doctor: "What is the diagnosis?" "Rash" is not a diagnosis, it is a nonspecific description. If the diagnosis is "acne", ask what type. Is it acne vulgaris? acne rosacea? Have the doctor or the nurse spell it out for you over the phone and write it down. If the doctor can't do this, it may be that he/she is not really completely sure what the diagnosis is.

I am a doctor, I am a family practioner. This is just my personal opinion, not professional medical advice.

Good luck,

Bob McGinnis

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In a message dated 6/11/2003 1:53:30 PM Mountain Daylight Time, cespos@... writes:

Your description of that rash sounds like Lupus to me.

Good Luck,

Chas.

The facial distribution of the rash is similar to lupus, but lupus is not treated with minocycline. Lupus is also not a reaction to prednisone that I know of.

Bob McGinnis

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In a message dated 6/11/2003 1:36:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time, msbfford@... writes:

Actually, the prednisone can stay in your system for up to 2 years after you stop taking it, according to a previous allergist I had. That's why you need to alert anyone who might need to know (surgeons, EMT, emergency rooms, etc) that you have previously taken steroids. Evidently it gets into the tissues for a long time. I had a rash the dr labeled as "steroid acne", which is not the same thing as regular acne.

I think these tupe of long term effects depend on how high the dose was and how long you were taking it and also the underlying state of health of the person. The higher the dose, the longer you are on it and the poorer your underlying health, the more long term the systemic effects will be. But rash per se is not really a long term effect in my opinion.

My feeling--without being an expert-- is that steroid acne tends to occur in those taking prednisone for a long period of time--weeks to months--and the occurrence is probably increased by increasing dosage.

Bob McGinnis

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Bob,

I agree with your assessment. When I took

fairly high doses of Prednisone daily for several

months, I developed an acne-like rash. It was primarily on my back. When I went

off Prednisone, it went away. I’ve never had

the problem with a short term dose-pak.

Jim

Re: rash

In a message dated 6/11/2003 1:36:07

PM Mountain Daylight Time, msbfford@... writes:

Actually, the prednisone can stay in your system for up to 2

years after you stop taking it, according to a previous allergist I had. That's

why you need to alert anyone who might need to know (surgeons, EMT, emergency

rooms, etc) that you have previously taken steroids. Evidently it gets into the

tissues for a long time. I had a rash the dr labeled as " steroid

acne " , which is not the same thing as regular acne.

I think these tupe of long term effects depend on how high the dose was and how

long you were taking it and also the underlying state of health of the person.

The higher the dose, the longer you are on it and the poorer your underlying

health, the more long term the systemic effects will be. But rash per se is not

really a long term effect in my opinion.

My feeling--without being an expert-- is that steroid acne tends to occur in

those taking prednisone for a long period of time--weeks to months--and the

occurrence is probably increased by increasing dosage.

Bob McGinnis

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Bob,

Lupus is commonly misdiagnosed. My wife went through hell before she

was diagnosed with Lupus. Her doctor was treating her for a " rash " which got

so bad she ended up in the Emergency Room. Those doctors diagnosed her with

roseola and gave her antibiotics. When that didn't work we tried a Dermatologist

who was shocked that none of the doctors ever did blood work. The blood

tests confirmed that she had lupus. So just because her dermatologist called it

a

rash and gave her antibiotics does not rule out Lupus in my experience.

Don't forget that we are all in the autoimmune bizarro world and lupus is part

of

the scene.

Ciao,

Chas.

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In a message dated 6/12/2003 7:32:58 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cespos@... writes:

So just because her dermatologist called it a

rash and gave her antibiotics does not rule out Lupus in my experience.

Don't forget that we are all in the autoimmune bizarro world and lupus is part of

the scene.

I agree with you. The blood test to check for lupus is pretty accurate, generally available, and I think, not expensive. So if there is any question, especially if there are other signs of lupus such as joint pain, I think it would be appropriate to get a blood test for lupus.

Bob

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In a message dated 6/11/2003 9:15:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jim747@... writes:

Bob,

I agree with your assessment. When I took fairly high doses of Prednisone daily for several months, I developed an acne-like rash. It was primarily on my back. When I went off Prednisone, it went away. I’ve never had the problem with a short term dose-pak.

Jim

Jim,

I've put a lot of people on prednisone, mostly short term and some people on long term low dose. (Family practitioners in general do not put people on prednisone at high doses for long periods of time; because such therapy is usually only used for pretty severe disease.)

Having said this, I think your story is pretty typical of steroid induced acne.

Bob

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In a message dated 6/12/2003 1:24:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jim747@... writes:

Yes, this was actually done by a family pract. in Edmond, Ok. back in 1995. I took Pred. over 3-4 months. I can't remember the dosage. He was seeing if it would get rid of my polyps. It was a short time after that that I started seeing an ENT who later did surgery on me. It was great having my smell working for several months, but it (and subsequent short bursts) probably led to my osteoporosis.

Jim

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Jim,

If you still have polyps, you might want to try this head inverted technique with Flonase. Letters To The Editor, October 1, 1997, American Family Physician They have used this technique a lot for polyps in Europe. You'd have to carefully open the bottle (and be sure not to break it and get glass in the medication, I used a pair of wire cutters to repeatedly crease the metal collar on the bottle.) Then I emptied the medication into a different container and administered it with TB syringes (or insulin syringes) without the needles. Flonase does not usually get absorbed too much systemically, so it should not further osteoporosis. You should probably get a yearly eye exam though if you use it on a regular basis.

Intranasal aspirin desensitzation might work for you too, they do this in Europe. http://www.remcomp.fr/asmanet/aspirin-nasal-desensitization.html#Desensitizatio

I am personally in the process of trying a low/no salicylate diet.

Bob

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Thanks, Bob.

Yes, this was actually done by a family pract. in Edmond, Ok. back in 1995. I took Pred. over 3-4 months. I can't remember the dosage. He was seeing if it would get rid of my polyps. It was a short time after that that I started seeing an ENT who later did surgery on me. It was great having my smell working for several months, but it (and subsequent short bursts) probably led to my osteoporosis.

Jim

Re: rash

In a message dated 6/11/2003 9:15:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jim747@... writes:

Bob,I agree with your assessment. When I took fairly high doses of Prednisone daily for several months, I developed an acne-like rash. It was primarily on my back. When I went off Prednisone, it went away. I’ve never had the problem with a short term dose-pak.JimJim,I've put a lot of people on prednisone, mostly short term and some people on long term low dose. (Family practitioners in general do not put people on prednisone at high doses for long periods of time; because such therapy is usually only used for pretty severe disease.)Having said this, I think your story is pretty typical of steroid induced acne.Bob

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Bob,

Thank you very much for the two articles.

I started to break into a flonase bottle once, but

backed off thinking I might break it. In an earlier post I explained how I try

to use the head-down “Mecca” position while holding the bottle at a low angle. Your method

sounds interesting. Since Flonase is so expensive,

every drop counts. I have recently started using pressured Nasocort

to see if that might get back farther. Too soon to tell if it

works better.

The Intranasal Desens

sounds intriguing. I had not seen that article. By the way, I’m tentatively

scheduled to go to Scripps for desens. in September. Prior to that trip, I plan to schedule a visit

to a doctor in Dallas (referred by my current ENT) to discuss severe polyps in my

frontal sinuses. A recent CT scan by my ENT here in Midland showed no air space at all in my frontal sinuses and she suggested

that I consider surgery above the eyes to clean them out. I’ll be

interested in hearing what the doctor at the Dallas Medical Center says. I’m inclined to try desens. first, obviously! I have always felt that’s where my

infections originate and my two earlier intranasal surgeries didn’t get

close to that area.

Good luck on the diet.

Jim

Jim,

If you still have polyps, you might want to try this head inverted technique

with Flonase. Letters

To The Editor, October 1, 1997, American Family Physician They have used

this technique a lot for polyps in Europe. You'd have to carefully open the bottle (and be sure not to break it

and get glass in the medication, I used a pair of wire cutters to repeatedly

crease the metal collar on the bottle.) Then I emptied the medication into a

different container and administered it with TB syringes (or insulin syringes)

without the needles. Flonase does not usually get absorbed too much

systemically, so it should not further osteoporosis. You should probably get a

yearly eye exam though if you use it on a regular basis.

Intranasal aspirin desensitzation might work for you too, they do this in Europe. http://www.remcomp.fr/asmanet/aspirin-nasal-desensitization.html#Desensitizatio

I am personally in the process of trying a low/no salicylate diet.

Bob

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Sounds like it could be heat rash. I have found that also using a powder

with corn starch helps. I like baby powder with corn starch. If you use

talc, it will clump if you sweat. Hope this helps! Michele

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Rash

My daughter who has poly-jra has had a rash on her bottom for the

last couple of weeks. I have taken her to her ped and he said it was

just heat rash and gave me a creme to put on it. It has gotten a

little better but it still continues to spread. The rash looks like

pimples and they finally burst then dry up. She feels fine

otherwise, hardly no pain with the arthritis and is not running a

fever. Just wondering if I should be concerned with it and if any of

you have had any experience with this.

Thanks

mom to Brittany (12-poly)

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Hi ,

You did the right thing, by having the pediatrician take a look at it.

Hopefully it's continuing to get better, clearing up? For Josh, his

Still's Rash has never had 'eruptions'. It's more like a pattern of

coloring just under the skin at the effected area. His has never been

itchy or painful. Just a mysterious occurrence of discoloration of skin,

in blotchy pale pink spots. Always best to have these things checked,

though. Just in case it's worse than we suspected.

Hope Brittany's feeling better soon.

Aloha,

Georgina

sfrazer31470 wrote:

>My daughter who has poly-jra has had a rash on her bottom for the

>last couple of weeks. I have taken her to her ped and he said it was

>just heat rash and gave me a creme to put on it. It has gotten a

>little better but it still continues to spread. The rash looks like

>pimples and they finally burst then dry up. She feels fine

>otherwise, hardly no pain with the arthritis and is not running a

>fever. Just wondering if I should be concerned with it and if any of

>you have had any experience with this.

>

>Thanks

> mom to Brittany (12-poly)

>

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Hi Patty,

I can't answer that one. had the rash continuosly for almost an entire year even on all the meds.It wasn't until he started 25mg MTX that it went away and hasn't been back since.I would definately be curious about that one also.Is Caitlins real rheumy back in town?Let us know what you find out.

Hugs

becki and 5 systemic

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Metzger wrote:

> HI

> Just wonder if anyone with chronic Lyme gets a rash-not a bulls-eye,

> but one that starts as hives then turns to red splotches and then

> ends up with spots that look like chicken pox and itches? It started

> this time on my upper arms and both inner thighs. Doctors can't

> figure out what it is from--only treat the symptoms. Had for several

> months, finally was gone for about a month, and now is back. Don't

> know if it is related to the lyme; caused by laundry detergent or

> soaps; any of the many supplements and/or meds I am on; foods; etc.

>

> If any one has any suggestions, please let me know.

Hi ,

I have this on my upper arms (as well as recurent ECMs) and was assured by

Bela P. Bozsik MD that this was due to a combination of an Lb reaction to my

antibiotic (doxycycline) and a sure sign of an exacerbation of Lyme

borreliosis. I was told that a skin scraping would reveal Bb. but have not

found a clinician who will do this.

I have photographs of my own (ACA?) rash for reference.

Regards,

Kezzi. . .

PS.. An excellent article on the various skin conditions with Lyme disease:

source: ls of Internal Medicine. 1991;114:490-498

authors: Malane, et al

title: Diagnosis of Lyme Disease Based on Dermatological Manifestations

or see:

Comments: in the " American Journal Of Nursing "

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: I had the same rash and it was real extensive. I thought I had chicken

pox but when my lyme doctor looked at it, she said it looked like a lyme

rash. So it is possible that 's what you have. I did nothing for it but bathed

in

Aveeno bath stuff (sold in the supermarket or drug stores); its an oatmeal

product and helps with itching and I also took Benadyl. And, of course,

continued

on antibiotics. It cleared up on its own, in time. I never got a bulleye rash

from a bite, just this itchy rash than came up during treatment. Best, Jeri