Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 WHAT IS herxing? Reggi >From: lindaj@... >Reply-candidiasisegroups ><candidiasisegroups> >Subject: Re: Olive Leaf Extract >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:38:36 -0500 > >I've used a number of other brands of olive leaf extract, and personally >found there to be a drastic difference between the East Park brand and the >others. In order to get the same results as the East Park brand, I had to >take more than twice as much of a brand that had 17% oleuropein, and four >times as much of a brand that had 6% oleuropein. When you compare the >oleuropein content, the less expensive brands end up actually costing more. > >However, I think I benefited by using the lower oleuropein content brands >first, because it reduced the herxing effect. I think if I had started out >with the East Park brand, I would have had major herxing problems. > > >lindaj@... > > Re: Olive Leaf Extract > > >There are sevearl brands of olive leaf extract >available at smallflower.com for the same or a >little lower than this price. > >--- lindaj@... wrote: > > > But...You can get East > > Park's Olive leaf extract (d-Lenolate) from > > needs.com for $17.99 for 60 > > capsules, which is the cheapest I've seen it > > anywhere. At that price, it is > > no more expensive than the olive leaf extract > > that I was buying from my > > local natural foods store. > > > > > > lindaj@... > > > >===== > " We can't all, and some of us don't. " > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 << You can get East > Park's Olive leaf extract (d-Lenolate) from > needs.com for $17.99 for 60 >> Where did you get this, ? hY~Y~Y~Y~Yg Tracey hY~Y~Y~Y~Yg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 I've used a number of other brands of olive leaf extract, and personally found there to be a drastic difference between the East Park brand and the others. In order to get the same results as the East Park brand, I had to take more than twice as much of a brand that had 17% oleuropein, and four times as much of a brand that had 6% oleuropein. When you compare the oleuropein content, the less expensive brands end up actually costing more. However, I think I benefited by using the lower oleuropein content brands first, because it reduced the herxing effect. I think if I had started out with the East Park brand, I would have had major herxing problems. lindaj@... Re: Olive Leaf Extract There are sevearl brands of olive leaf extract available at smallflower.com for the same or a little lower than this price. --- lindaj@... wrote: > But...You can get East > Park's Olive leaf extract (d-Lenolate) from > needs.com for $17.99 for 60 > capsules, which is the cheapest I've seen it > anywhere. At that price, it is > no more expensive than the olive leaf extract > that I was buying from my > local natural foods store. > > > lindaj@... > ===== " We can't all, and some of us don't. " __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 Die-off. Flu like symptoms, sometimes very bad! Mogdrmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 On 27 Oct 00, at 9:23, Reggi wrote: > WHAT IS herxing? Reggi Die-off. The Herxheimer effect. It's when the dead yeast releases toxins, and you know you're getting better because you feel a million times worse! Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Very interesting, ! > 1. It will inactivate many types of prescription antibiotics and should not > be taken with them. How does it do this? Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Donna, Try checking out the FAQ page at eastpark.com for some answers. I've heard this is the best olive leaf extract product out there not only on this list but others a well. I've never taken it myself. Rose >From: " Donna " <ruthful@...> >Reply-oxyplus ><oxyplus > >Subject: olive leaf extract >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 13:06:11 -0700 > >Does anyone here have much experience with olive leaf extract that they >would like to share. I just started taking it and expected to feel bad >from die off but am finding I feel energized from it and wondering if that >is common. > >Also I am wondering if it should be taken short term or if longer term is >okay and what about doses. > >I got mine from NOW Foods and it recomends 1-3 caps a day. I have been >taking 2 a day for two days and today I am going for three. > >From what I have read it should do wonders for any cfs possible culprits, >mycoplasma or virus, etc. > >Anyone know anything? > >I felt some head confusion with the first capsule and after that it seems >to have a wonderful brain clarifying action and increases my energy >overall. But, after only two days on it, it is too early to say it will >be wonderful long term and I am not certain that it is supposed to be taken >long term, so I am looking for input. > >Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Donna, Try checking out the FAQ page at eastpark.com for some answers. I've heard this is the best olive leaf extract product out there not only on this list but others a well. I've never taken it myself. Rose >From: " Donna " <ruthful@...> >Reply-oxyplus ><oxyplus > >Subject: olive leaf extract >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 13:06:11 -0700 > >Does anyone here have much experience with olive leaf extract that they >would like to share. I just started taking it and expected to feel bad >from die off but am finding I feel energized from it and wondering if that >is common. > >Also I am wondering if it should be taken short term or if longer term is >okay and what about doses. > >I got mine from NOW Foods and it recomends 1-3 caps a day. I have been >taking 2 a day for two days and today I am going for three. > >From what I have read it should do wonders for any cfs possible culprits, >mycoplasma or virus, etc. > >Anyone know anything? > >I felt some head confusion with the first capsule and after that it seems >to have a wonderful brain clarifying action and increases my energy >overall. But, after only two days on it, it is too early to say it will >be wonderful long term and I am not certain that it is supposed to be taken >long term, so I am looking for input. > >Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Donna, I have several brands that I carry, I haven't tried any of them yet. I plan to try the East Park brand though because it seems to be the best quality and in the books I read about Olive Leaf, it seems to be the brand most recommended. I'll let you know if I notice any difference after I take it. http://loaves-n-fishes.com/eastpark.htm ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com olive leaf extract >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 13:06:11 -0700 > >Does anyone here have much experience with olive leaf extract that they >would like to share. I just started taking it and expected to feel bad >from die off but am finding I feel energized from it and wondering if that >is common. > >Also I am wondering if it should be taken short term or if longer term is >okay and what about doses. > >I got mine from NOW Foods and it recomends 1-3 caps a day. I have been >taking 2 a day for two days and today I am going for three. > >From what I have read it should do wonders for any cfs possible culprits, >mycoplasma or virus, etc. > >Anyone know anything? > >I felt some head confusion with the first capsule and after that it seems >to have a wonderful brain clarifying action and increases my energy >overall. But, after only two days on it, it is too early to say it will >be wonderful long term and I am not certain that it is supposed to be taken >long term, so I am looking for input. > >Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Donna, I have several brands that I carry, I haven't tried any of them yet. I plan to try the East Park brand though because it seems to be the best quality and in the books I read about Olive Leaf, it seems to be the brand most recommended. I'll let you know if I notice any difference after I take it. http://loaves-n-fishes.com/eastpark.htm ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com olive leaf extract >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 13:06:11 -0700 > >Does anyone here have much experience with olive leaf extract that they >would like to share. I just started taking it and expected to feel bad >from die off but am finding I feel energized from it and wondering if that >is common. > >Also I am wondering if it should be taken short term or if longer term is >okay and what about doses. > >I got mine from NOW Foods and it recomends 1-3 caps a day. I have been >taking 2 a day for two days and today I am going for three. > >From what I have read it should do wonders for any cfs possible culprits, >mycoplasma or virus, etc. > >Anyone know anything? > >I felt some head confusion with the first capsule and after that it seems >to have a wonderful brain clarifying action and increases my energy >overall. But, after only two days on it, it is too early to say it will >be wonderful long term and I am not certain that it is supposed to be taken >long term, so I am looking for input. > >Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 Thanks Donna, I posted on Olive Leaf Extract. I got the East Park Brand to use for my husband and toe nail fungus. too soon to know anything yet. I also have the Kroeger brand. http://loaves-n-fishes.com/eastpark.htm http://loaves-n-fishes.com/kroeger.html ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com olive leaf extract Is the person who posted on olive leaf extract is still on this list? Donna p.s. Hey Karma, great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 -----Original Message----- Thanks Donna, I posted on Olive Leaf Extract. I got the East Park Brand to use for my husband and toe nail fungus. too soon to know anything yet. I also have the Kroeger brand. ~Karma --------------------------------- Hi Karma. Actually, it was a guy named Bill and he said something about his daughter being ill and that he had learned about olive leaf to late to help her, etc. Anyway, I was wondering if he had any experience with it since. I just recently started using a really cheap NOW Foods brand and I am sincerely amazed and am wanting to know if anyone else has used it and seen good results. I have been experimenting with it for about two weeks. I have had to be cautious because I have had some die off symtoms that were uncomfortable but bearable and a few that I wondered if I would survive. I had two toxic bowel movements in the middle of the night that I thought I might not live through. My heart was pounding so hard and so fast and I felt like I was going to pass out and throw up and well, just basically have a major malfunction. But as soon as the fecal matter was expelled my heart rate went to normal and I felt fine. But it was scarey. Both times it was when I took more than one a day. Other than that, I had some joint stiffness upon awaking and a few random pains here and there that were just a second or two in duration. So that is all the bad news. The good news is that something incredible is happening. I can feel it right now in my mouth. I feel cleaner in my mouth than I can ever remember freeling. And I feel clean in my brain and ears and throat. It is so hard to explain. It is like I have had a shower on the inside. When I did blood electrification I felt this on a much milder scale and it was a much more radical treatment. Anyway, olive leaf extract is supposed to mycoplasma, candida and a multitude of other cooties. It disables all virus. And the bottom line is that it pretty much kills everything bad and harms nothing good. Doesn't affect good bowel bacteria at all. Well, as I have posted before, I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. But I have not had my blood tested to see if I have any of the normal offending cooties like E Barr or mycoplasma, etc. so I cannot say what I think is being removed, but I can tell you that I am certain that my body is being cleansed of invaders and it feels wonderful. When I first started OLE I had a swollen gum that I had not been able to get to respond to golden seal and some other things. ONe cap of O.L.E. and it was gone. Then a friend had a bladder infection she tried the same product and with one cap her symptoms were gone. I am pretty excited about this stuff. And I know there is alot of info out there that says that East Parks stuff is the only effective stuff. I would have to say that is a bunch of hooey. I don't know about any of the other " lesser' brands, but this NOW Foods olive leaf extract is as potent as I think I can stand. I found a link on the net that has a whole book on olive leaf posted. It does promote the east park stuff, but never the less, it has alot of good basic info in it. I will find it again and post it. Hope this is of interest to someone Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 Thanks Donna, That is good to know. I am on product overload right now. I have added too many new things at once to know what is what. I started trying the Olive Leaf, I had read several book on it and how it killed just about every bad thing. I also added the Homozon, Colostrum and Inner Garden Flora at that time. Currently, I have stopped all supplements and am doing the Master Cleanse. I am on day 6 I believe. I find it very enjoyable and a relief that I don't have to figure out what to eat! Simple, lemonade! LOL ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: olive leaf extract -----Original Message----- Thanks Donna, I posted on Olive Leaf Extract. I got the East Park Brand to use for my husband and toe nail fungus. too soon to know anything yet. I also have the Kroeger brand. ~Karma --------------------------------- Hi Karma. Actually, it was a guy named Bill and he said something about his daughter being ill and that he had learned about olive leaf to late to help her, etc. Anyway, I was wondering if he had any experience with it since. I just recently started using a really cheap NOW Foods brand and I am sincerely amazed and am wanting to know if anyone else has used it and seen good results. I have been experimenting with it for about two weeks. I have had to be cautious because I have had some die off symtoms that were uncomfortable but bearable and a few that I wondered if I would survive. I had two toxic bowel movements in the middle of the night that I thought I might not live through. My heart was pounding so hard and so fast and I felt like I was going to pass out and throw up and well, just basically have a major malfunction. But as soon as the fecal matter was expelled my heart rate went to normal and I felt fine. But it was scarey. Both times it was when I took more than one a day. Other than that, I had some joint stiffness upon awaking and a few random pains here and there that were just a second or two in duration. So that is all the bad news. The good news is that something incredible is happening. I can feel it right now in my mouth. I feel cleaner in my mouth than I can ever remember freeling. And I feel clean in my brain and ears and throat. It is so hard to explain. It is like I have had a shower on the inside. When I did blood electrification I felt this on a much milder scale and it was a much more radical treatment. Anyway, olive leaf extract is supposed to mycoplasma, candida and a multitude of other cooties. It disables all virus. And the bottom line is that it pretty much kills everything bad and harms nothing good. Doesn't affect good bowel bacteria at all. Well, as I have posted before, I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. But I have not had my blood tested to see if I have any of the normal offending cooties like E Barr or mycoplasma, etc. so I cannot say what I think is being removed, but I can tell you that I am certain that my body is being cleansed of invaders and it feels wonderful. When I first started OLE I had a swollen gum that I had not been able to get to respond to golden seal and some other things. ONe cap of O.L.E. and it was gone. Then a friend had a bladder infection she tried the same product and with one cap her symptoms were gone. I am pretty excited about this stuff. And I know there is alot of info out there that says that East Parks stuff is the only effective stuff. I would have to say that is a bunch of hooey. I don't know about any of the other " lesser' brands, but this NOW Foods olive leaf extract is as potent as I think I can stand. I found a link on the net that has a whole book on olive leaf posted. It does promote the east park stuff, but never the less, it has alot of good basic info in it. I will find it again and post it. Hope this is of interest to someone Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 Sounds good. Keep us posted. Donna Re: olive leaf extract -----Original Message----- Thanks Donna, I posted on Olive Leaf Extract. I got the East Park Brand to use for my husband and toe nail fungus. too soon to know anything yet. I also have the Kroeger brand. ~Karma --------------------------------- Hi Karma. Actually, it was a guy named Bill and he said something about his daughter being ill and that he had learned about olive leaf to late to help her, etc. Anyway, I was wondering if he had any experience with it since. I just recently started using a really cheap NOW Foods brand and I am sincerely amazed and am wanting to know if anyone else has used it and seen good results. I have been experimenting with it for about two weeks. I have had to be cautious because I have had some die off symtoms that were uncomfortable but bearable and a few that I wondered if I would survive. I had two toxic bowel movements in the middle of the night that I thought I might not live through. My heart was pounding so hard and so fast and I felt like I was going to pass out and throw up and well, just basically have a major malfunction. But as soon as the fecal matter was expelled my heart rate went to normal and I felt fine. But it was scarey. Both times it was when I took more than one a day. Other than that, I had some joint stiffness upon awaking and a few random pains here and there that were just a second or two in duration. So that is all the bad news. The good news is that something incredible is happening. I can feel it right now in my mouth. I feel cleaner in my mouth than I can ever remember freeling. And I feel clean in my brain and ears and throat. It is so hard to explain. It is like I have had a shower on the inside. When I did blood electrification I felt this on a much milder scale and it was a much more radical treatment. Anyway, olive leaf extract is supposed to mycoplasma, candida and a multitude of other cooties. It disables all virus. And the bottom line is that it pretty much kills everything bad and harms nothing good. Doesn't affect good bowel bacteria at all. Well, as I have posted before, I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. But I have not had my blood tested to see if I have any of the normal offending cooties like E Barr or mycoplasma, etc. so I cannot say what I think is being removed, but I can tell you that I am certain that my body is being cleansed of invaders and it feels wonderful. When I first started OLE I had a swollen gum that I had not been able to get to respond to golden seal and some other things. ONe cap of O.L.E. and it was gone. Then a friend had a bladder infection she tried the same product and with one cap her symptoms were gone. I am pretty excited about this stuff. And I know there is alot of info out there that says that East Parks stuff is the only effective stuff. I would have to say that is a bunch of hooey. I don't know about any of the other " lesser' brands, but this NOW Foods olive leaf extract is as potent as I think I can stand. I found a link on the net that has a whole book on olive leaf posted. It does promote the east park stuff, but never the less, it has alot of good basic info in it. I will find it again and post it. Hope this is of interest to someone Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 In a message dated 8/3/01 3:11:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ruthful@... writes: > Is the person who posted on olive leaf extract is still on this list? > > Donna, I also posted on olive leaf extract. I believe at that time we corresponded about it and you said you would try it, so you may have been thinking of me when you asked. I know Karma has already replied to you. Is there anything else you want to know? My point at the time I posted was that OLE is an A1 essential antiviral and very useful for CFS. Since then I've learned it also has some mild antiparasitic properties. Alone for parasites it wouldn't do much but in tandem with other therapies it could be quite helpful. I believe because of its immune-building properties. Olive leaf is fabulous. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 Hi Robin. Actually I was looking for a post by a guy named Bill. And I found it. I was looking for anyone with personal experience with it to chat with and have found a few. I just am very pleased with it and think it should considered by anyone with anything viral or baterial or fungul. I have moved my discussion of it over to the cfs/fibronaturalway group and the Excellent Things group. So, Robin. What did you notice from it, yourself? Thanks, Donna -----Original Message----- Donna, I also posted on olive leaf extract. I believe at that time we corresponded about it and you said you would try it, so you may have been thinking of me when you asked. I know Karma has already replied to you. Is there anything else you want to know? My point at the time I posted was that OLE is an A1 essential antiviral and very useful for CFS. Since then I've learned it also has some mild antiparasitic properties. Alone for parasites it wouldn't do much but in tandem with other therapies it could be quite helpful. I believe because of its immune-building properties. Olive leaf is fabulous. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 In a message dated 8/9/01 3:45:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ruthful@... writes: > So, Robin. What did you notice from it, yourself? > Thanks, > Donna > I notice that whenever I have a relapse of CFS, that I just take a bunch of it and the symptoms go away immediately. Of course I have been treating CFS for years and with all the immune-building I do in my antiparasite protocol, it is not the olive leaf alone that is doing it. So I wouldn't claim such dramatic results for everybody, or even for most people. But for me, at this advanced stage of my healing, it knocks out CFS like...oh, like a Motrin for a headache. It just so very specifically targets viruses. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 How amazing. Donna -----Original Message----- I notice that whenever I have a relapse of CFS, that I just take a bunch of it and the symptoms go away immediately. Of course I have been treating CFS for years and with all the immune-building I do in my antiparasite protocol, it is not the olive leaf alone that is doing it. So I wouldn't claim such dramatic results for everybody, or even for most people. But for me, at this advanced stage of my healing, it knocks out CFS like...oh, like a Motrin for a headache. It just so very specifically targets viruses. Robin G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 can anyone tell me the dose and the best type of olive leaf extract to fight herpes viruses..thanks..barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 Hiya all - in case I did not respond to this earlier, I found NO effect from Olive Leaf Extract. However, officinalis tincture (homemade) has kept cold sores at by for over eight months now. Another preventative is l-Lysine. MJH << From: " " <lindaj@...> Subject: Re: olive leaf extract East Park Research is reputed as being the best olive leaf extract. I wouldn't know the dosage specifically for herpes, but I take 6 capsules a day, divided into three doses. Solary brand is about half as potent, and I'd have to take 12 capsules a day, and GNC sells a brand of olive leaf extract that I'd have to take 36 capsules a day to get the same dosage as the East Park Research brand. There is also a red algae extract that I've heard of that is also supposed to be effective against herpes that you might consider looking into. lindaj@... Re: olive leaf extract > can anyone tell me the dose and the best type of olive leaf extract to fight > herpes viruses..thanks..barbara > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 East Park Research is reputed as being the best olive leaf extract. I wouldn't know the dosage specifically for herpes, but I take 6 capsules a day, divided into three doses. Solary brand is about half as potent, and I'd have to take 12 capsules a day, and GNC sells a brand of olive leaf extract that I'd have to take 36 capsules a day to get the same dosage as the East Park Research brand. There is also a red algae extract that I've heard of that is also supposed to be effective against herpes that you might consider looking into. lindaj@... Re: olive leaf extract > can anyone tell me the dose and the best type of olive leaf extract to fight > herpes viruses..thanks..barbara > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 Thank you Green Man. I been taking different anti-candida remedies since November. I usually experience die-off within the first few days with each new herb I introduce on a monthly rotation. I began taking Olive Leaf the first of April and was surprised to have no die-off within the first few days. Now I figured its probably due to the low dosage I was taking. I will up the dose. Thanks again Lilly Message: 9 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lord Azzo <lordazzo13@...> Subject: Re: Olive Leaf Extract to Lilly Lilly, I would suggest taking 1 caps every 4 hrs. even though the mg. amount does not match perfectly. There is no set amount to take because what works for you may not for someone else. " Die-off " symptoms can begin almost immediately after starting the supplement. It can hit different people in different ways. Reactions include extreme fatigue, diarrhea, headaches, muscle/joint achiness or flu-like symptoms. Severity differs also from person to person, depending on the extent of infection. If the symptoms of " die off " are causing too many problems, cut back on the pills to something like this.......1 @ 8:00 am....... 1 @ 4:00 pm ....... 1 @ 8:00 pm. Or lower if need be. If the symptoms are still to harsh, and causing alot of problems, start immediately with 1 cap two times a day and work slowly back up. " Die-Off " symptoms are a good thing remember, but not when they cause too much physical discomfort. No cleanse of any sort should be stressful. You may need a day or two, or even a week, to allow your body to process the " die-off. " I also suggest 1000 mg of Vitiman C with Rose Hips a day (split into 2 doses), during this period and a month after.......or preferably you keep taking the Vitiman C as an ongoing therapy. It helps the body adapt to undo stressors. Don't worry about your pills smelling like that, it's common for them to react to the air that was introduced into the bottle after opening. You should smell Valerian Root.......Wheeew !!! Please feel free to email with any other questions. The Green Man - Certified Herbalist / Reiki Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Someone needs to send this information over to Reasearchers_HSV group..They all swear there is nothing to alternative and natural treatment. Some people would rather let the Rx's and doctors 'supress' symptons than go to the root of the problem. Some folks just like to stay 'asleep' It boggles me! > Olive Leaf Firepower > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > For the record, the researchers at Upjohn found calcium > elenolate effective in test tube experiments against the > following viruses: herpes, vaccinia, pseudorabies, > Newcastle, sacloe A 21, encepthlomyocarditis, polio 1, 2, > and 3, vesicular stomititus, sindbis, reovirus, Moloney > Murine leukemia, Rauscher Murine leukemia, Moloney sarcoma, > and many influenza and parainfluenza types. > They found it effective against these bacteria and parasitic > protozoans: lactobacillus plantarum W50, brevis 50, > pediococcus cerevisiae 39, leuconostoc mesenteroides 42, > staphylococcus aureus, bacillus subtilis, > enterobacteraerogenes NRRL B-199, E. cloacae NRRL B-414, E. > coli, salamonella tyhimurium, pseudomonas fluorescens, P. > solanacearum, P. lachrymans, erwinia carotovora, E. > tracheiphila, xanthomonas vesicatoria, corynesbacterium > Michiganese, plasmodium falciparum, virax and malariae. > > The researchers credit a number of unique properties > possessed by the olive leaf compound for the broad killing > power: > > An ability to interfere with critical amino acid production > essential for viruses. > > An ability to contain viral infection and/or spread by > inactivating viruses or by preventing virus shedding, > budding or assembly at the cell membrane. > > The ability to directly penetrate infected cells and stop > viral replication. > > In the case of retroviruses, it is able to neutralize the > production of reverse transcriptase and protease. These > enzymes are essential for a retrovirus, such as HIV, to > alter the RNA of a healthy cell. > > It can stimulate phagocytosis, an immune system response in > which cells ingest harmful microorganisms and foreign > matter. > > The research suggests that this may be a " true anti-viral " > compound because it appears to selectively block an entire > virus-specific system in the infected host. It thus appears > to offer healing effects not addressed by pharmaceutical > antibiotics. > > http://www.curezone.com/foods/oliveleaf.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 According to the story the pharm companies were trying to extract the active ingredients in olive leaf (so it could be patented) and in the test tube it killed all of these germs, etc., but when they tried it on animals it failed. So, they dropped the research. But now someone (who sells it) found a way to make an olive leaf extraction that is effective. However, all past reports that were effective used a tea, or decoction, or aqueous extract. Olive leaves are CHEAP, and can be ordered by the pound. I wonder why someone has not boiled it down and tried it on high blood pressure, etc.? Since no pharm company or even natural health provider will do the tests (because there is no profit in it) maybe we will have to start an Olive Leaf Group on , and do our own research and report our findings. Anyone up for this? Or is there already an O.L. group? Dick Re: Olive Leaf Extract Someone needs to send this information over to Reasearchers_HSV group..They all swear there is nothing to alternative and natural treatment. Some people would rather let the Rx's and doctors 'supress' symptons than go to the root of the problem. Some folks just like to stay 'asleep' It boggles me! > Olive Leaf Firepower > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > For the record, the researchers at Upjohn found calcium > elenolate effective in test tube experiments against the > following viruses: herpes, vaccinia, pseudorabies, > Newcastle, sacloe A 21, encepthlomyocarditis, polio 1, 2, > and 3, vesicular stomititus, sindbis, reovirus, Moloney > Murine leukemia, Rauscher Murine leukemia, Moloney sarcoma, > and many influenza and parainfluenza types. > They found it effective against these bacteria and parasitic > protozoans: lactobacillus plantarum W50, brevis 50, > pediococcus cerevisiae 39, leuconostoc mesenteroides 42, > staphylococcus aureus, bacillus subtilis, > enterobacteraerogenes NRRL B-199, E. cloacae NRRL B-414, E. > coli, salamonella tyhimurium, pseudomonas fluorescens, P. > solanacearum, P. lachrymans, erwinia carotovora, E. > tracheiphila, xanthomonas vesicatoria, corynesbacterium > Michiganese, plasmodium falciparum, virax and malariae. > > The researchers credit a number of unique properties > possessed by the olive leaf compound for the broad killing > power: > > An ability to interfere with critical amino acid production > essential for viruses. > > An ability to contain viral infection and/or spread by > inactivating viruses or by preventing virus shedding, > budding or assembly at the cell membrane. > > The ability to directly penetrate infected cells and stop > viral replication. > > In the case of retroviruses, it is able to neutralize the > production of reverse transcriptase and protease. These > enzymes are essential for a retrovirus, such as HIV, to > alter the RNA of a healthy cell. > > It can stimulate phagocytosis, an immune system response in > which cells ingest harmful microorganisms and foreign > matter. > > The research suggests that this may be a " true anti-viral " > compound because it appears to selectively block an entire > virus-specific system in the infected host. It thus appears > to offer healing effects not addressed by pharmaceutical > antibiotics. > > http://www.curezone.com/foods/oliveleaf.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 I just got a flyer which sells 'olivenol' which I think is an antioxidant extracted from the oil directly; is this different from the one extracted from the leaf? http://store./iherb/olivenol3.html Fattah BC, Canada Dick Rochon wrote: > According to the story the pharm companies were trying to extract the active ingredients in olive leaf (so it could be patented) and in the test tube it killed all of these germs, etc., but when they tried it on animals it failed. So, they dropped the research. > > But now someone (who sells it) found a way to make an olive leaf extraction that is effective. > > However, all past reports that were effective used a tea, or decoction, or aqueous extract. > > Olive leaves are CHEAP, and can be ordered by the pound. I wonder why someone has not boiled it down and tried it on high blood pressure, etc.? > > Since no pharm company or even natural health provider will do the tests (because there is no profit in it) maybe we will have to start an Olive Leaf Group on , and do our own research and report our findings. > > Anyone up for this? Or is there already an O.L. group? > > Dick > Re: Olive Leaf Extract > > Someone needs to send this information over to Reasearchers_HSV > group..They all swear there is nothing to alternative and natural > treatment. Some people would rather let the Rx's and > doctors 'supress' symptons than go to the root of the problem. Some > folks just like to stay 'asleep' It boggles me! > > > > Olive Leaf Firepower > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > -------------------- > > For the record, the researchers at Upjohn found calcium > > elenolate effective in test tube experiments against the > > following viruses: herpes, vaccinia, pseudorabies, > > Newcastle, sacloe A 21, encepthlomyocarditis, polio 1, 2, > > and 3, vesicular stomititus, sindbis, reovirus, Moloney > > Murine leukemia, Rauscher Murine leukemia, Moloney sarcoma, > > and many influenza and parainfluenza types. > > They found it effective against these bacteria and parasitic > > protozoans: lactobacillus plantarum W50, brevis 50, > > pediococcus cerevisiae 39, leuconostoc mesenteroides 42, > > staphylococcus aureus, bacillus subtilis, > > enterobacteraerogenes NRRL B-199, E. cloacae NRRL B-414, E. > > coli, salamonella tyhimurium, pseudomonas fluorescens, P. > > solanacearum, P. lachrymans, erwinia carotovora, E. > > tracheiphila, xanthomonas vesicatoria, corynesbacterium > > Michiganese, plasmodium falciparum, virax and malariae. > > > > The researchers credit a number of unique properties > > possessed by the olive leaf compound for the broad killing > > power: > > > > An ability to interfere with critical amino acid production > > essential for viruses. > > > > An ability to contain viral infection and/or spread by > > inactivating viruses or by preventing virus shedding, > > budding or assembly at the cell membrane. > > > > The ability to directly penetrate infected cells and stop > > viral replication. > > > > In the case of retroviruses, it is able to neutralize the > > production of reverse transcriptase and protease. These > > enzymes are essential for a retrovirus, such as HIV, to > > alter the RNA of a healthy cell. > > > > It can stimulate phagocytosis, an immune system response in > > which cells ingest harmful microorganisms and foreign > > matter. > > > > The research suggests that this may be a " true anti-viral " > > compound because it appears to selectively block an entire > > virus-specific system in the infected host. It thus appears > > to offer healing effects not addressed by pharmaceutical > > antibiotics. > > > > http://www.curezone.com/foods/oliveleaf.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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