Re: Constipation! Rubbing penis! Miralax study?

[Guest guest]

Have you put Lotrimin on the area where he is itching. My son was doing the

same thing and we tried topical Lotrimin twice a day on the effected area

for about a week. Within a day or two, my son was not itching the area.

Apparently it is not that common in young boys, but yeast infections can

happen there Hope that helps.

On 4/12/11 3:06 PM, " AmieR " <am_rooks@...> wrote:

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> Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the pediatrician

> to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a DAN for years

> doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements. This one

> problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over his

> penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his fingers

> blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also

> punches himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of

> magnesium citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc.,

> epsom salts, everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing

> seems to work. When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow

> snakes or orange-sized balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I

> have a feeling that the reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I

> thought it made him spacey and silly when we tried that years ago. I also

> seem to remember a study about it not showing up in the stool of kids with

> autism? Can anyone site that? Comprehensive stool analysis showed no

> parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal strep, which was wiped out

> w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control. There is no rash or

> redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All little boys find

> it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any ideas?

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't see any antifungals listed. yeast won't go away without ongoing

consistent treatment for it. Usually its systemic when it's causing constipation

and external genital symptoms.

yeast symptoms aren't under control....or he would not be constipated with itchy

parts. Symptoms don't always manifest the same. Lotrim or monistat cream can

help the external symptoms but to clear this up entirely.....daily antifungals

and probiotics.

Oh and the tests for candida aren't that great....they often times show no yeast

but kids have it and when they are treated you see clear improvements.

Miralax is propylene glycol....not nice stuff. Generally constipated kids worse.

Lots of magnesium, C and probiotics work a lot better than plastic pellets.

Jan

>

> Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the pediatrician

to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a DAN for years

doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements. This one

problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over his penis

until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his fingers blue.

He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also punches himself

lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of magnesium citrate,

aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc., epsom salts,

everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing seems to work.

When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow snakes or orange-sized

balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I have a feeling that the

reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I thought it made him spacey

and silly when we tried that years ago. I also seem to remember a study about

it not showing up in the stool of kids with autism? Can anyone site that?

Comprehensive stool analysis showed no parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal

strep, which was wiped out w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control.

There is no rash or redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All

little boys find it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any

ideas?

>

[Guest guest]

Frustrating conversation with his BA who doesn't think the rubbing is a physical

symptom at all....He is on OLE daily to control PANDAS, we rotate GSE, OOO, and

Pau D'Arco for yeast control. Also on 10,000 mcg biotin a day. We discontinued

Nystatin from rotation after learning it had strep from a post. He has been on

up to 4 Therbiotic Detox and 2 Swanson Ultimate probiotics a day. Just added

more C (up to 3000 mg/day) at DANs suggestion and Betaine HCL to try and get him

to go daily. Maybe we should add Nizoral? Externally, we've tried Lotrimin,

cortisone, nubricainal, benadryl cream, lidocaine, compounded 1234 cream, even

vagisil. The rubbing continues. There are no external signs (redness or rash)

It doesn't seem to matter how many pills we throw in there, the constipation

persists. I just had an 18 inch snake appear in my toilet finally! AAAGH! I

agree about the Miralax. We are sooooooo close! Thanks, Amie

> >

> > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

pediatrician to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a

DAN for years doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements.

This one problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over

his penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his

fingers blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also

punches himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of

magnesium citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc.,

epsom salts, everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing seems

to work. When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow snakes or

orange-sized balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I have a feeling

that the reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I thought it made him

spacey and silly when we tried that years ago. I also seem to remember a study

about it not showing up in the stool of kids with autism? Can anyone site that?

Comprehensive stool analysis showed no parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal

strep, which was wiped out w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control.

There is no rash or redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All

little boys find it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any

ideas?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yep. Tried Lotrimin. I wonder if the stool is pressing on a nerve, or maybe

internal hemmorhoids, it seems like a deep internal itchy? or painful feeling.

I'm thankful he's verbal and can tell me some things now.

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> >

> > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

pediatrician

> > to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a DAN for

years

> > doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements. This one

> > problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over his

> > penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his

fingers

> > blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also

> > punches himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts

of

> > magnesium citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc.,

> > epsom salts, everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing

> > seems to work. When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow

> > snakes or orange-sized balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I

> > have a feeling that the reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I

> > thought it made him spacey and silly when we tried that years ago. I also

> > seem to remember a study about it not showing up in the stool of kids with

> > autism? Can anyone site that? Comprehensive stool analysis showed no

> > parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal strep, which was wiped out

> > w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control. There is no rash or

> > redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All little boys find

> > it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any ideas?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

There was a problem with Lotrimin...but now I can't find the reference I had.

Lotrimin causes a side effect that was something to watch out for with the

immune-suppressed.

Digging for it now...

>

> Yep. Tried Lotrimin. I wonder if the stool is pressing on a nerve, or maybe

internal hemmorhoids, it seems like a deep internal itchy? or painful feeling.

I'm thankful he's verbal and can tell me some things now.

[Guest guest]

Well I believe the reference on Lotrimin I was looking for is in Shane Ellison's

book, and possibly on his website, The People's Chemist. Sorry, can't recall

what he wrote, and more likely not a problem at all to use, unless someone else

knows something more.

Oh well.

[Guest guest]

I'm just throwing stuff out there - hoping something will stick:

What about taurine? What about oils/fats in his diet? I had to give my kid

coconut oil by the spoonful.

How much water does he drink a day? Track it to see.

Why not consult a homeopathy specialist? What do you have to lose?

Your probiotics are s. Thermophilus free, I assume.

At one point, before we truly had yeast managed, we had trouble like this with

the genitals with my son. We gave him a watermelon seed tea for awhile and that

helped. Perhaps look into that.

> > >

> > > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

pediatrician to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a

DAN for years doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements.

This one problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over

his penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his

fingers blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also

punches himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of

magnesium citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc.,

epsom salts, everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing seems

to work. When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow snakes or

orange-sized balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I have a feeling

that the reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I thought it made him

spacey and silly when we tried that years ago. I also seem to remember a study

about it not showing up in the stool of kids with autism? Can anyone site that?

Comprehensive stool analysis showed no parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal

strep, which was wiped out w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control.

There is no rash or redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All

little boys find it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any

ideas?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm , We have the same situation here , only he doesn't rub it w/t his hand ,but

lays on a hard surface and then rubs it ! He is also 9 ,  and We are doing the

same things as You . AC protocol ,tons of supps ...etc . My son is also

constipated  and goes every 2-3 days . The problems is not new , some times

will go away for couple of months and then return for twice as long . I still

haven't figure out what is going on . I have been told so many things to try ,

but nothing has worked , High histamines , high oxalates , yeast and so on . It

is driving me crazy . He is non verbal ,so I have no idea what makes him do it

! 

about a week ago , I asked my husband why he stopped taking his

Multivitamin/Mineral ( its from whole foods ,natural for the most part)  He

told me because it makes him itch . I ask him if he is sure and he was very

convinced that that is what was causing it . Because when he stopped taking it

the itching stopped immediately. I think that all of this supps that we pump

into our kids  bodies , sometimes have side effects like this one .....or NOT

.. Sorry I have no advice  for You , but to let you know You are not alone in

this frustration !

Nora Bunis -Stuart 

From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Constipation! Rubbing penis! Miralax study?

Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 6:24 AM

 

I'm just throwing stuff out there - hoping something will stick:

What about taurine? What about oils/fats in his diet? I had to give my kid

coconut oil by the spoonful.

How much water does he drink a day? Track it to see.

Why not consult a homeopathy specialist? What do you have to lose?

Your probiotics are s. Thermophilus free, I assume.

At one point, before we truly had yeast managed, we had trouble like this with

the genitals with my son. We gave him a watermelon seed tea for awhile and that

helped. Perhaps look into that.

> > >

> > > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

pediatrician to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a

DAN for years doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements.

This one problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over

his penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his

fingers blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also

punches himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of

magnesium citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc.,

epsom salts, everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing seems

to work. When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow snakes or

orange-sized balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I have a feeling

that the reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I thought it made him

spacey and silly when we

tried that years ago. I also seem to remember a study about it not showing up

in the stool of kids with autism? Can anyone site that? Comprehensive stool

analysis showed no parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal strep, which was

wiped out w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control. There is no rash

or redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All little boys find

it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any ideas?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amie,

I am fighting with similar situation for my 5 year old son from 2 years now.

After long investigation now I know that the problem is related with

oxalates and in more depth with the citrobacter freundii that causes those.

This bacteria increases the histamine levels immediately. One good thing is

that it needs an acidic PH (so we need to raise the PH to fight it) and a

certain temperature (~37Celsius). Excellent was Bicitra but I couldn't use

it for long time, sodium is good, too.

VSL#3 is very helpful but since it has strep lines I don't use it all the

time.

The thing that is helping the most and now we use it as a routine is: 1000mg

taurine, 500mg Magnesium malate and enzyme before food. Taurine creates

taurocholates and doesn't allow the formation of oxalates (thanks to

Owens for this information).

In case that he still is constipated and has the " itching " use 2 Caps of

Sacharomyces Boullardi and LIver Life.

Hope this helps,

Mimoza

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:01 PM, AmieR <am_rooks@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yep. Tried Lotrimin. I wonder if the stool is pressing on a nerve, or maybe

> internal hemmorhoids, it seems like a deep internal itchy? or painful

> feeling. I'm thankful he's verbal and can tell me some things now.

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

> pediatrician

> > > to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a DAN for

> years

> > > doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements. This

> one

> > > problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over

> his

> > > penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his

> fingers

> > > blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also

> > > punches himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive

> amounts of

> > > magnesium citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes,

> etc.,

> > > epsom salts, everything I've read about here and on other sites.

> Nothing

> > > seems to work. When he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow

> > > snakes or orange-sized balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again.

> I

> > > have a feeling that the reg. pediatrician might recommend Miralax

> again. I

> > > thought it made him spacey and silly when we tried that years ago. I

> also

> > > seem to remember a study about it not showing up in the stool of kids

> with

> > > autism? Can anyone site that? Comprehensive stool analysis showed no

> > > parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal strep, which was wiped out

> > > w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control. There is no rash or

> > > redness. HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All little boys

> find

> > > it, just send him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any ideas?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Frustrating conversation with his BA who doesn't think the rubbing is a

physical symptom at all....

I agree, the symptoms would mean yeast at my house.

>>He is on OLE daily to control PANDAS, we rotate GSE, OOO, and Pau D'Arco for

yeast control. Also on 10,000 mcg biotin a day.

Try increasing the biotin and GSE. The OLE increased yeast at my house.

>>Just added more C (up to 3000 mg/day)

This also increased yeast at my house. Try adding carnitine, which my son

needed for proper absorption of vitamin C.

>>I agree about the Miralax.

Miralax info

http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm

Try increasing the biotin and GSE, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana ,

Does increasing Biotin would make the constipation issue worse ?

Nora Bunis -Stuart 

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Constipation! Rubbing penis! Miralax study?

Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:56 PM

 

> Frustrating conversation with his BA who doesn't think the rubbing is a

physical symptom at all....

I agree, the symptoms would mean yeast at my house.

>>He is on OLE daily to control PANDAS, we rotate GSE, OOO, and Pau D'Arco for

yeast control. Also on 10,000 mcg biotin a day.

Try increasing the biotin and GSE. The OLE increased yeast at my house.

>>Just added more C (up to 3000 mg/day)

This also increased yeast at my house. Try adding carnitine, which my son

needed for proper absorption of vitamin C.

>>I agree about the Miralax.

Miralax info

http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm

Try increasing the biotin and GSE, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hello

I hope you can try this for constipation i had constipation very very bad after

my father died from stress for about 2,3 years i tried food change plenty of

water and exersises no pils as pils i know return the problem worst and at the

end my frend show me Husk in the chemist i take for 6m 1 tea spoon in arround

200ml of water before meal and i dont remember how constipation goes away i give

my son but not often as hi is on the other end i give him 1 tabel spoon in small

water qwantities to have his stools more formed.We do parazite protocol and

iridiology treatment only with herbs lets see what happened .Constipation is the

worst think happened to me bring alot of frightness and stress it is very very

very painful i was crying my self out and i was realy realy thinking only about

it at all time i was very very depressed and obsesed how and what will happened

next time so i im not autistic just imagine how they feel i felt realy sick .

I hope Husk will help but for constipation relees need plenty plenty of

water.Once it hapened every day they will not be afraid anymore .It is not

expensive at all

From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Constipation! Rubbing penis! Miralax study?

Date: Wednesday, 13 April, 2011, 4:24

 

I'm just throwing stuff out there - hoping something will stick:

What about taurine? What about oils/fats in his diet? I had to give my kid

coconut oil by the spoonful.

How much water does he drink a day? Track it to see.

Why not consult a homeopathy specialist? What do you have to lose?

Your probiotics are s. Thermophilus free, I assume.

At one point, before we truly had yeast managed, we had trouble like this with

the genitals with my son. We gave him a watermelon seed tea for awhile and that

helped. Perhaps look into that.

> > >

> > > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

pediatrician to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a DAN

for years doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements. This

one problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over his

penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his fingers

blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also punches

himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of magnesium

citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc., epsom salts,

everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing seems to work. When

he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow snakes or orange-sized

balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I have a feeling that the reg.

pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I thought it made him spacey and

silly when we tried that years

ago. I also seem to remember a study about it not showing up in the stool of

kids with autism? Can anyone site that? Comprehensive stool analysis showed no

parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal strep, which was wiped out

w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control. There is no rash or redness.

HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All little boys find it, just send

him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any ideas?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello

I hope you can try this for constipation i had constipation very very bad after

my father died from stress for about 2,3 years i tried food change plenty of

water and exersises no pils as pils i know return the problem worst and at the

end my frend show me Husk in the chemist i take for 6m 1 tea spoon in arround

200ml of water before meal and i dont remember how constipation goes away i give

my son but not often as hi is on the other end i give him 1 tabel spoon in small

water qwantities to have his stools more formed.We do parazite protocol and

iridiology treatment only with herbs lets see what happened .Constipation is the

worst think happened to me bring alot of frightness and stress it is very very

very painful i was crying my self out and i was realy realy thinking only about

it at all time i was very very depressed and obsesed how and what will happened

next time so i im not autistic just imagine how they feel i felt realy sick .

I hope Husk will help but for constipation relees need plenty plenty of

water.Once it hapened every day they will not be afraid anymore .It is not

expensive at all

From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Constipation! Rubbing penis! Miralax study?

Date: Wednesday, 13 April, 2011, 4:24

 

I'm just throwing stuff out there - hoping something will stick:

What about taurine? What about oils/fats in his diet? I had to give my kid

coconut oil by the spoonful.

How much water does he drink a day? Track it to see.

Why not consult a homeopathy specialist? What do you have to lose?

Your probiotics are s. Thermophilus free, I assume.

At one point, before we truly had yeast managed, we had trouble like this with

the genitals with my son. We gave him a watermelon seed tea for awhile and that

helped. Perhaps look into that.

> > >

> > > Hi all! I have finally made an appointment for tomorrow with the

pediatrician to discuss my 9 yr olds constipation. We've been working with a DAN

for years doing AC chelation, GFCFSF and a few other F's, many supplements. This

one problem just seems to be getting worse. He will rub a spot just over his

penis until it is red. He has rubbed holes in his jeans and dyed his fingers

blue. He will tell me it is so itchy it's driving him crazy. He also punches

himself lightly in the lower abdomen. We've tried massive amounts of magnesium

citrate, aloe vera juice, lots of water, vitamin c, enzymes, etc., epsom salts,

everything I've read about here and on other sites. Nothing seems to work. When

he goes (about every 2-3 days) it's enormous yellow snakes or orange-sized

balls. The rubbing stops and then returns again. I have a feeling that the reg.

pediatrician might recommend Miralax again. I thought it made him spacey and

silly when we tried that years

ago. I also seem to remember a study about it not showing up in the stool of

kids with autism? Can anyone site that? Comprehensive stool analysis showed no

parasites, yeast. Last year he had anal strep, which was wiped out

w/antibiotics. Yeast symptoms seem under control. There is no rash or redness.

HELP! It's driving us all crazy! If I hear " All little boys find it, just send

him to his room " again I'm going to scream! Any ideas?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana ,

> Does increasing Biotin would make the constipation issue worse ?

When I first started biotin, it caused horrible constipation. I learned that it

required magnesium for proper absorption, and since I was seriously deficient in

biotin, it pulled all the magnesium and caused constipation. Once I added

sufficient magnesium, the constipation was gone and the biotin helped control

the yeast quite a bit.

Dana

[Guest guest]

We had terrible results with Miralax which is also high oxalate (my little

guy actually passed a kidneys tone at age three). I know all the standard

GIs recommend it, but it's not for long term use. We've had great luck with

Oxypowder. You might try that. Also, rubbing of the penis can be due to

oxalate dumping...it hurts coming out of the urethra.