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What is in Vitex?AliOn Aug 12, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Dr. Loretta Lanphier wrote:You may also want to try Vitex (Chaste berry) tincture. It may take a bit for it to work completely (1-2 months) and one must be consistent in using it. It acts as a progesterone precursor. Many find that acne is eliminated or improves greatly. I use Vitex for teens who are demonstrating estrogen dominance rather than putting them on bio-identical progesterone. However, if we do not see results then we add small amounts of bio-identical progesterone cream. I am seeing more and more teens with estrogen dominance – girls and boys. The chemicals in which our children are being exposed are beginning to produce disease symptoms and imbalance at much younger ages. I was just speaking with a colleague last week about how we are now seeing more and more cancer presented in young adults 30 years and under – especially colon cancer. She should also be on a good organic multi-vitamin/mineral complex -- foundational for everyone no matter if they have health concerns or not. Clinical studies using Vitex extract show a reduction in headaches, breast tenderness, bloating, fatigue, cravings for sweets, and also feelings of anxiety, irritability, depression and mood swings, after only one month. Vitex tincture, at an average daily dose of 42 drops, was prescribed for 2447 women who had a variety of menstrual disorders, including PMS. Although this was an uncontrolled study, both patients and physicians reported that Vitex significantly improved symptoms. At the end of the study 31% of patients had complete relief of symptoms, and 55% reported significant improvement. "The doctors and patients were satisfied with the treatment in over 90% of cases, i.e., symptoms either disappeared altogether or were significantly improved. The good acceptability of the preparation is also shown by the long duration of the treatment, with a mean of 5 months, and up to 9 years in some cases...The tolerance is exceptional: only 2.3% of patients experienced unwanted effects with the treatment..." [1] Herbalists have used Vitex with much success in treating teenage acne. Well-known herbalist and author, Hobbs, finds Vitex very useful for treating teenage acne, preferably accompanied by changes in eating habits. "I have worked with some teenagers who had chronic acne for several years who were not willing to change their diet in any way. They felt attached to soft drinks, French fries, pizza and hamburgers, and no amount of logical discussion could change their minds. If Vitex can help in these cases, it seems likely to help in other cases where dietary improvements are possible, and in my experience it can help dramatically. I have given it to both young men and women with equal effectiveness. The remedy often takes from one to two months before it becomes fully active." [2] Loch, E. Bohnert K.J. Peeters M, et al. "The treatment of menstrual disorders with Vitex agnus-castus tincture." Der Frauenarzt. 1991. 32(8): pp.867-70.Hobbs, . Vitex: the women's herb. 2nd ed. 1996. Botanica Press.Be WellDr.LFrom: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of dawn volzSent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:50 AMiodine Subject: NAC someone suggested my daughter try NAC for her acne (possible bromide detox)....has anyone taken that and does it interfere with other supplements she is taking such as iron, magnesium, vitamin c, selenium, iodine etc....her face is broken out and i am not sure it is iodine or not..she has hashis and takes NT as well..thanks

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Hi Sandy,

Did Eddie have any reactions to NAC when you first introduced it?

Thanks,

Jane

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Hi ,It might be a good question for the autism treatment forum. In fact, I should dig out our Andy Cutler book and see what he says about it. We are still puzzled by how much it is suiting our Eddie when he isn't doing well on his other supplements.He started NAC a long while back and did well on it and tested "remarkably" positive for mercury toxicity. Puzzling.Sandyxx

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Hi

NAC does not chelate but it can possibly redistribute metals,

this was discussed here fairly recently.

Some people with metal toxicity will do well on NAC, some will do badly and for

others it might not do anything.

Probably the best way to tell at present is to trial a sulphur exclusion diet.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/food/high-sulfur-sulphur-food-list/

Cheers

Kenny

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> Been thinking about NAC and wanted to know, it mentions that one of the

> things it does is chelate. So, would there be a risk of redistribution

> of metals if a person has tested positive for heavy metals??

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> Was interested in trying it out for the mucus thining benefits and to

> increase glutathione levels.

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> Comments and views greatly appreciated.

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> emily

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Thnks for the response Sandy. I guess you had not done any chelation

prior to starting NAC with Eddie? If you do find anything about it from

AC book, please let me know.

emily x

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> Hi ,

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> It might be a good question for the autism treatment forum. In fact, I

should dig out our Andy Cutler book and see what he says about it. We

are still puzzled by how much it is suiting our Eddie when he isn't

doing well on his other supplements.

> He started NAC a long while back and did well on it and tested

" remarkably " positive for mercury toxicity. Puzzling.

> Sandyxx

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Hi Jane,

We had a good day the day he first had it. It was just a good and happy day ...

unlike xmas day which followed - but we made the connection and kept in a low

dose. We didn't feel it was a very major wow at the time but then we were

sparing with the amount.

Sandyxx

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Hi ,

We hadn't done chelation when Eddie first had NAC - we didn't do much chelation

as such - it's more about fixing detox on Yasko. We were really excited when

Eddie began to excrete a bit of mercury and other nasties by himself (and with

the help of supplemeents.)

It sounds like NAC is one of those supplements that is more liklelt to be great

or awful - and less likely to be something in between.

Sandyxx

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> > Hi ,

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> > It might be a good question for the autism treatment forum. In fact, I

> should dig out our Andy Cutler book and see what he says about it. We

> are still puzzled by how much it is suiting our Eddie when he isn't

> doing well on his other supplements.

> > He started NAC a long while back and did well on it and tested

> " remarkably " positive for mercury toxicity. Puzzling.

> > Sandyxx

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Thanks Sandy and Kenny for your responses.

I think I will have to be more cautious in our situation with seizures

in case the redistribution stirs up things. Perhaps maybe consider much

later.

emily x

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> > > Hi ,

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> > > It might be a good question for the autism treatment forum. In fact,

I

> > should dig out our Andy Cutler book and see what he says about it.

We

> > are still puzzled by how much it is suiting our Eddie when he isn't

> > doing well on his other supplements.

> > > He started NAC a long while back and did well on it and tested

> > " remarkably " positive for mercury toxicity. Puzzling.

> > > Sandyxx

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Thanks Sandy and Kenny for your responses.

I think I will have to be more cautious in our situation with seizures

in case the redistribution stirs up things. Perhaps maybe consider much

later.

emily x

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> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > It might be a good question for the autism treatment forum. In fact,

I

> > should dig out our Andy Cutler book and see what he says about it.

We

> > are still puzzled by how much it is suiting our Eddie when he isn't

> > doing well on his other supplements.

> > > He started NAC a long while back and did well on it and tested

> > " remarkably " positive for mercury toxicity. Puzzling.

> > > Sandyxx

> > >

> >

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My son tolerates high sulfur foods just fine and still NAC was a disaster for

him. On a minuscule dose of 10mg - he became whiny and emotional and started

screaming a lot- not typical for him at all. We stopped it after two days and

he returned to his old happy self.

Irene

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> > > How soon can you tell if NAC is not good for your child?

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> > > Thanks :)

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Hi Irene

When you say high sulfur foods do you mean foods high in thiols?

One of the main benefits of NAC is that it can be a precursor of glutathione

along with glutamine and glycine for those who have low plasma cysteine. For

those with high plasma cysteine, glutamine and glycine may be enough without

NAC, in this case NAC may actually cause problems so a sulfur(thiol exclusion

diet) might be worth trialling 1st to be on the safe side, it was with me

personally and also for my son.

All the best Kenny

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> > > > How soon can you tell if NAC is not good for your child?

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> > > > Thanks :)

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