Re: LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

[Guest guest]

What type of test is this?

>

> So we got the labs back from Malachi's second round of Chelation (TD DMSA) and

> he's dumping lots of Lead and Arsenic and Beryllium, some Mercury but not as

> much as those others I listed. BUT his lead exposure DOUBLED in the last 3

> months and I don't know WHERE the heck it is coming from?? Any ideas?

>

[Guest guest]

If this is a urine test it's not measuring exposure, it's excretion (what's

coming out) which one would expect to increase with chelation. Check

www.danasview.net/metals for sources of exposure. Does your house have lead

water pipes, does he drink from school water fountains?

S S

LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

Posted by: " " purplegirl1981@... purplegirl1981

Sun Apr 3, 2011 7:32 pm (PDT)

So we got the labs back from Malachi's second round of Chelation (TD DMSA) and

he's dumping lots of Lead and Arsenic and Beryllium, some Mercury but not as

much as those others I listed. BUT his lead exposure DOUBLED in the last 3

months and I don't know WHERE the heck it is coming from?? Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

Regarding kid's juices, I highly recommend getting a juicer. It's so easy

to make fresh juice and so good for everyone. I've been wanting a Vitamix

for years. I hear mixed reviews about the Jack Lalane one, but it's only

about $100 bucks.

I currently make fresh orange or lemon juice daily. I have a lemon tree so

I harvest several dozen by December/January, use my juicer and freeze

juice for the whole summer (which I mix with purified water and stevia or

zylitol). I also make lemon and orange smoothies all summer with just a

blender

and a citrus juicer. Sometimes I throw in frozen berries or a few carrots

(since I don't have a juicer yet) and I always add organize eggs or egg

white protein and some fiber. The fresh juice is wonderful. Sometimes when

oranges are on sale, I'll buy extra, juice and freeze for summer smoothies.

It's best fresh, but still feels loads better than pasteurized juices. The

lemon has the added benefit of alkalinizing the system.

/Rosegvr

[Guest guest]

Hiu ,

 

I read an article a while back that a food safety watch group tested and found

lead in kids juice drinks. Not to scare you but the lead levels in many of the

juices exceeded safe standards (thanks a lot FDA)

 

more info here and a list of juices with high lead: .

 

Group Finds Lead In Kids' Drinks

 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127747666

 

 

85% of Kids Drinks, Snack Could contain High Levels of Lead

 

by Jasmin Malik Chua, 06/11/10

 

Another day, another “uh oh.†The latest kerfuffle? Quantities of lead in

bottled juice, juice boxes, and packaged fruit could exceed federal limits for

the lunchbox-toting set, according to the Environmental Law Foundation. The Bay

Area-based environmental nonprofit, which enlisted the aid of a U.S.

Environmental Protection Agency-certified lab in Berkeley, tested nearly 400

samples from 150 branded products marketed to children, including apple juice,

grape juice, packaged pears and peaches (including baby food), and fruit

cocktail mixes. The alarming results: 125 out of 146 products—or more than

85%—contained enough lead in a single serving to warrant a warning label under

California’s Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986, better

known as Prop. 65.

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More troubling, perhaps, is the fact that the results tar both organic and

conventional products: Earth’s Best Organic, 365 Everyday Value Organic,

Trader Joe’s, and Walnut Acres get as fair of a shake as Welch’s, Minute

Maid, Gerber, Del Monte, and Dole. Plus, most scientists concur that no safe

level of exposure to lead exists, especially when it comes to babies and

children.

ELF has dispatched notices to law-enforcement officials, including

California’s attorney-general, district attorneys, and the affected

manufacturers, retailers, and distributors. The notices start a clock for the

companies to either bring themselves into compliance with Prop. 65 or to place

“clear and reasonable warnings†on the food packages. If, at the end of 60

days, no law enforcement agency pursues prosecution, ELF will file a formal

suit.

Until then, we’ll be squeezing our own fruit here at Inhabitots HQ. And

chugging plenty of water.

LEAD-TAINTED PRODUCTS

1. 365 Everyday Value Organic 100% Juice Concord Grapes

2. Beech Nut 100% Apple Juice

3. Best Yet Bartlett Pear Halves in Heavy Syrup

4. Best Yet Chunky Mixed Fruit in Pear Juice

5. Best Yet Yellow Cling Peach Halves in Heavy Syrup

6. Chef’s Review Fruit Cocktail

7. Del Monte 100% Juice Fruit Cocktail

8. Del Monte Chunky Mixed Fruit in 100% Juice (peach, pear, grape, etc.)

9. Del Monte Diced Pears in Light Syrup

10. Del Monte Freestone Peach Slices in 100% Juice

11. Del Monte Fruit Cocktail in Heavy Syrup (peach, pear, grapes)

12. Del Monte Fruit Cocktail No Sugar Added

13. Del Monte Lite Fruit Cocktail in Extra Light Syrup

14. Del Monte Pear Halves in Heavy Syrup

15. Del Monte Pear Halves, Bartlett Pears in 100% real fruit juice from

concentrate

16. Del Monte Sliced Yellow Cling Peaches in 100% Juice

17. Del Monte Sliced Yellow Cling Peaches in heavy syrup

18. Dole Diced Peaches, Yellow Cling in light syrup

19. Dole Mixed Fruit in Light Syrup

20. Dole Pear Halves in Juice

21. Earth’s Best Organics Apple Juice

22. Eating Right Fruit Cocktail packed in Sucralose

23. Eating Right No Sugar Fruit Cocktail

24. First Street 100% Apple Cider from concentrate

25. First Street Apple Juice from concentrate 100% juice

26. First Street Diced Pears

27. First Street Fruit Cocktail in heavy syrup

28. First Street Grape Juice from concentrate 100% juice

29. First Street Sliced Bartlett

30. First Street Yellow Cling Peaches in heavy syrup

31. Full Circle Organic Apple Juice

32. Full Circle Organic Bartlett Pear Slices

33. Gerber 100% Juice – White Grape Juice

34. Gerber 100% Juice Apple Juice

35. Gerber 3rd Foods Peaches

36. Gerber 3rd Foods Pears

37. Golden Star Mixed Fruit in Light Syrup (peach, pineapple, pears)

38. Golden Star Peach Halves in Heavy Syrup

39. Great Value 100% Grape Juice

40. Great Value 100% No Sugar Added Apple Juice

41. Great Value Bartlett Pear Halves in 100% Juice

42. Great Value Bartlett Sliced Pears in Heavy Syrup

43. Great Value No Sugar Added Fruit Cocktail

44. Great Value Yellow Cling Sliced Peaches

45. Hansen’s Natural Apple Juice

46. Kedem Concord Grape Juice 100% pure grape juice

47. Kroger 100% Juice Apple Juice

48. Kroger Fruit Cocktail in Heavy Syrup

49. Kroger Grape Juice 100% Juice

50. Kroger Lite Fruit Cocktail in Pear Juice

51. Kroger Value Fruit Mix (Peaches, pears, grapes)

52. Langers Apple Juice 100% Juice

53. Langers Grape Juice (Concord)

54. Langers Red Grape Juice

55. Libby’s Fruit Cocktail No Sugar Added (Sweetened with Splenda)

56. Libby’s Yellow Cling Peach Slices No Sugar Added (Sweetened with Splenda)

57. Market Pantry Diced Peaches in light syrup

58. Market Pantry Diced Pears in light syrup

59. Market Pantry Mixed Fruit in light syrup

60. Maxx Value Fruit Mix in Light Syrup (peach, pear, grape)

61. Maxx Value Pear Pieces in Light Syrup

62. Minute Maid Juice Apple – 100% Apple Juice

63. Motts 100% Apple Juice

64. Mrs. Brown’s Fruit Cocktail in Heavy Syrup (peaches, pears, grapes)

65. O Organics Organic Grape Juice from concentrate

66. O Organics Organic Unfiltered Apple Juice Not From Concentrate

67. Old Orchard 100% Apple Juice

68. Parade 100% Juice Apple

69. Polar Mixed Fruit

70. Polar Peach Slices

71. Polar Pear Halves in light syrup

72. R.W. Knudsen Just Concord Grape Juice

73. R.W. Knudsen Organic Just Concord

74. Raley’s 100% Grape Juice

75. Raley’s Fruit Cocktail in Heavy Syrup

76. Raley’s Premium 100% Apple Juice not from Concentrate

77. Raley’s Sliced Yellow Cling Peaches in Heavy Syrup

78. S & W Natural Style Fruit Cocktail in Lightly Sweetened Juice

79. S & W Natural Style Pear Slices in Juice

80. S & W Natural Style Yellow Cling Peach Slices in Lightly Sweetened Juice

81. S & W Premium Peach Halves Yellow Cling Peaches in light syrup

82. S & W Sun Pears Premium

83. Safeway 100% Juice Apple Cider

84. Safeway 100% Juice Apple Juice

85. Safeway 100% Juice Grape Juice

86. Safeway Diced Peaches in Light Syrup

87. Safeway Fruit Cocktail in Heavy Syrup

88. Safeway Light Sugar Fruit Cocktail

89. Safeway Lite Bartlett Pear Halves in Pear Juice

90. Safeway Lite Fruit Cocktail in Pear Juice

91. Safeway Organic Grape Juice

92. Safeway Pear Halves in Light Juice

93. Safeway Yellow Cling Peach Slices in Pear Juice

94. Santa Cruz Organic Concord Grape Juice

95. Simple Value Yellow Cling Peaches in light syrup

96. Stater Bros. 100% Juice Apple Juice

97. Stater Bros. 100% Juice Grape Juice

98. Stater Bros. 100% Juice White Grape Juice

99. Stater Bros. Fruit Cocktail in Heavy Syrup

100. Stater Bros. Yellow Cling Peach Halves

101. Stater Bros. Yellow Cling Sliced Peaches in heavy syrup

102. Sunny Select 100% Apple Juice

103. Sunny Select 100% Grape Juice

104. Sunny Select Fruit Cocktail in Juice

105. Sunny Select Pear Halves in Pear Juice

106. Sunny Select Yellow Cling Sliced Peaches in Pear Juice

107. Trader Joe’s Certified Organic Apple Juice, pasteurized

108. Trader Joe’s Concord Grape Juice made from fress pressed organic concord

grapes

109. Trader Joe’s Pear Halves in white grape juice

110. Trader Joe’s Yellow Cling Peach Halves in while grape juice

111. Tree Top 100% Juice Apple Cider

112. Tree Top 100% Juice, Grape

113. Truitt Brothers Pacific NorthWest Bartlett Pear Halves, in pear juice from

concentrate

114. Valu Time Grape Drink from Concentrate

115. Valu Time Irregular Bartlett Pear Slices

116. Valu Time Yellow Cling Peach Slices

117. Walgreens Apple Juice from concentrate 100% juice

118. Walgreens Grape Juice from concentrate 100% juice

119. Walnut Acres Organic Concord Grape

120. Walnut Grove Market 100% Apple Juice

121. Walnut Grove Market Grape Juice

122. Walnut Grove Market Natural Peaches Sliced Yellow Cling in Light Syrup

123. Walnut Grove Market Natural Pear Halves in Heavy Syrup

124. Welch’s 100% Grape Juice (from Welch’s Concord Grapes)

125. Welch’s 100% Red Grape Juice from Concentrate

+ Lead Found in Children’s Food and Baby Food (PDF)

[Via NPR]

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From: ideals04 <ideals04@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 11:38 PM

 

What type of test is this?

>

> So we got the labs back from Malachi's second round of Chelation (TD DMSA) and

> he's dumping lots of Lead and Arsenic and Beryllium, some Mercury but not as

> much as those others I listed. BUT his lead exposure DOUBLED in the last 3

> months and I don't know WHERE the heck it is coming from?? Any ideas?

>

[Guest guest]

I have a Breville juicer and love it! It costs me around $200 and works great.

April

[ ] Re: LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

Regarding kid's juices, I highly recommend getting a juicer. It's so easy

to make fresh juice and so good for everyone. I've been wanting a Vitamix

for years. I hear mixed reviews about the Jack Lalane one, but it's only

about $100 bucks.

I currently make fresh orange or lemon juice daily. I have a lemon tree so

I harvest several dozen by December/January, use my juicer and freeze

juice for the whole summer (which I mix with purified water and stevia or

zylitol). I also make lemon and orange smoothies all summer with just a

blender

and a citrus juicer. Sometimes I throw in frozen berries or a few carrots

(since I don't have a juicer yet) and I always add organize eggs or egg

white protein and some fiber. The fresh juice is wonderful. Sometimes when

oranges are on sale, I'll buy extra, juice and freeze for summer smoothies.

It's best fresh, but still feels loads better than pasteurized juices. The

lemon has the added benefit of alkalinizing the system.

/Rosegvr

[Guest guest]

great idea.. I have on of those old fashioned hand press juicers but, as long

as it's fresh, whatever works .

 

From: April itz <april@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 1:16 PM

 

I have a Breville juicer and love it! It costs me around $200 and works great.

April

[ ] Re: LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

Regarding kid's juices, I highly recommend getting a juicer. It's so easy

to make fresh juice and so good for everyone. I've been wanting a Vitamix

for years. I hear mixed reviews about the Jack Lalane one, but it's only

about $100 bucks.

I currently make fresh orange or lemon juice daily. I have a lemon tree so

I harvest several dozen by December/January, use my juicer and freeze

juice for the whole summer (which I mix with purified water and stevia or

zylitol). I also make lemon and orange smoothies all summer with just a blender

and a citrus juicer. Sometimes I throw in frozen berries or a few carrots

(since I don't have a juicer yet) and I always add organize eggs or egg

white protein and some fiber. The fresh juice is wonderful. Sometimes when

oranges are on sale, I'll buy extra, juice and freeze for summer smoothies.

It's best fresh, but still feels loads better than pasteurized juices. The

lemon has the added benefit of alkalinizing the system.

/Rosegvr

[Guest guest]

yeah, chelation. When you start pulling lead out, you will put put bone storage

of lead. My kid is still excreting lead on hair testing 116 rounds and 5 years

later. I think I recall Andy saying lead takes a long time.

Once you begin chelation...you can't use the labs to determine new

exposure...since whatever comes out in the test is the result of using dmsa or

ala..etc.

I recall researching this the first time we got our second hair test back and my

son's lead was higher a year into chelation.

It's good he's dumping it. That's what you want to see.

Jan

>

> So we got the labs back from Malachi's second round of Chelation (TD DMSA) and

> he's dumping lots of Lead and Arsenic and Beryllium, some Mercury but not as

> much as those others I listed. BUT his lead exposure DOUBLED in the last 3

> months and I don't know WHERE the heck it is coming from?? Any ideas?

>

[Guest guest]

I've been doing chelation on & off for about 8 years. On my initial

DMSA-provoked urine heavy metals screen (pre-chelation), I showed very elevated

Mercury (Hg) and Lead (Pb). After first rounds of chelation w DMSA, the Hg & Pb

both showed significant declines; then after subsequent rounds, while Hg in test

results had further decreased (by about 2/3), the measured Pb levels began

reading higher. While the Pb was not as high as the initial test, it was still

puzzling.

My MD suggested that this jump might be explained simply by the chelator

first mobilizing/binding more Hg; and then when Hg levels had dropped somewhat,

picking up more lead. I'm sure that I'm not repeating his explanation as

elegantly, but that's the gist from my memory.

This isn't to rule out the possibility of recent exposures. Aside from the

obvious of exposure to any lead-based paint surfaces (which is where I suspect I

got my biggest exposure years back), common areas include things like some

pottery & china, and your tap water (from your plumbing). According to EPA,

homes built before 1986 are more likely to have lead pipes, fixtures and/or

solder; and corrosion can leach lead from joints & solders. See:

http://water.epa.gov/drink/info/lead/leadfactsheet.cfm I haven't tested our

house water yet, but for home-testing of old pottery or anything suspect, I have

just ordered for my household a set of home lead-test swabs.

~

>

> So we got the labs back from Malachi's second round of Chelation (TD DMSA) and

> he's dumping lots of Lead and Arsenic and Beryllium, some Mercury but not as

> much as those others I listed. BUT his lead exposure DOUBLED in the last 3

> months and I don't know WHERE the heck it is coming from?? Any ideas?

>

[Guest guest]

What's the follow up? This says they had 6 months to bring levels down or

include warnings on labels.

Re: LEAD exposure? WTHeck?

Posted by: " Aronson " sailcharters@... sailcharters

Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:33 am (PDT)

Hiu ,

I read an article a while back that a food safety watch group tested and found

lead in kids juice drinks. Not to scare you but the lead levels in many of the

juices exceeded safe standards (thanks a lot FDA)

more info here and a list of juices with high lead: .

[Guest guest]

Interesting note about lead in the water. In the last year we built a brand new

home, in a brand new neighborhood, and yet a few months ago we received a letter

from our town's water company letting us know that in various places throughout

town (including a random home in my neighborhood) testing showed high lead in

the water during a time the month prior. The pipes in town are REALLY old. God

only knows what is coming in to our homes from the piping outside of our

control. Fortunately we have a filtration system.

I was looking into lead at the time due to a friend's child having a high lead

hair test and learned that even some newly manufactured faucets are legally

allowed to contain a certain amount of lead.

> >

> > So we got the labs back from Malachi's second round of Chelation (TD DMSA)

and

> > he's dumping lots of Lead and Arsenic and Beryllium, some Mercury but not as

> > much as those others I listed. BUT his lead exposure DOUBLED in the last 3

> > months and I don't know WHERE the heck it is coming from?? Any ideas?

> >

>