Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 Dear , Nice to be back. There are a number of HBOT setups in Canada, and more all the time. There is actually one in my town now. I have referred people to them for stroke recovery and whiplash. I think it is a great idea to have an international forum on HBOT. For the names and phone numbers of the users worldwide, I would advise you to contact all the HBO chamber manufacturers, who should have the listings of all their clients. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Re: legal states > Dear Saul, > > While you were away, the question came up regarding the " free " states, those > free to use ozone in whatever manner the physician prefers. One of our > number said he thought there were 25 Free States, and of course, right away I > was hopeful that Virginia, where we have our clinic was one of those, but > also advised that you h; ad previously told me the number was 12. Still, > Saul I am hopeful the number of free states will soon expand and include > Virginia. I just don't know how to keep the expansion going forward. > > New Subject. Saul I believe we can get HBO more widely accepted in the U. S, > and Canada, if we get an exchange of info flowing between and among the > hyperbaric nations If we can get new developments, new successes flowing on > some sort of international HBO group and get doctors from different nations > contributing it would be truly exciting to see how all nations are getting > varied results and it would have a profound effect on how quickly all > aspects of oxygen gain public and media acceptance. I have suggested to Ken > Locklear that something along these lines in his new magazine HBOMEDTODAY > would provide a source of new growth for the industry. And, make it more > difficult for those who wish to disparage oxygen as a therapy. > > Within the past 3 days we have seen posts from Yugoslavia, China and > Argentina. IIMO international contributions on a frequent basis would pull > the teeth of those trying to keep us down. Your opinion appreciated. And, > could we get an input from Canada? Glad your back in town and we missed > you.. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Dear Luck, I have encountered the same problem here in Houston. People like you and I would have to travel elsewhere to a clinic that would treat CFIDS for a low cost, because the insurance companies will not cover our condition and pay for the HBOT. I inquired at the hospital here north of Houston and the nurse told me one session was $800… when I told them I had CFIDS, she said I couldn’t even get the treatment if I paid for it myself. The sad part besides what I just said, is that we are usually to weak to travel and in my case, due to limited funds, cannot afford to travel and stay somewhere for months at a time to get the treatments. If I find anything in your area, I will let you know, as I am still searching for myself locally. KAT :-) hbot i found an hbot in manhattan at new york hospital. i talked to one of the burses there and she said that medicare would not cover the hbot treatment for cfs. so i need to find another diagnosis and a doctor in the area that will diagnose me with an approved hbot illness. any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 To both of you. I was told if you have neuropathy, insurance pays for HBOT. (I just applied for Cobra this week, so haven't tried it yet) You might look into it. I've got horrible neuropathy and am always at odds with my body. I feel cold to the bone in hot weather. Even gloves, down comforters, heating blankets, etc don't help. It evidentially is a side effect of FMS, although the Dr. says he doesn't know why I have it. The DX came about by a non-painful test done in his office showing the nerve feelings/induction in your feet, ankles and legs. Do either of you experience those problems. There's more than one way to skin a Kat:) There's also a spa here that was giving HBOT treatments to help you look more beautiful?! Don't know how good or safe they are, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. Kate hbot i found an hbot in manhattan at new york hospital. i talked to one of the burses there and she said that medicare would not cover the hbot treatment for cfs. so i need to find another diagnosis and a doctor in the area that will diagnose me with an approved hbot illness. any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 Hi Kate, I have FMS and have found oral intake of h2o2 to increase my body temperature nicely. I suspect ozone intake would work as well. P. hbot i found an hbot in manhattan at new york hospital. i talked to one of the burses there and she said that medicare would not cover the hbot treatment for cfs. so i need to find another diagnosis and a doctor in the area that will diagnose me with an approved hbot illness. any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear , I knew I did not have the correct information, and was just winging it from memory in a quick answer to show some of the contrast between the two oxygen therapies. That is why I twice wrote that you would correct me on the HBOT info. But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. When you say Real Hyperbarics, do you mean that is the name of the company that makes it, or are you referring to using 100% oxygen in it, or what? Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Saul > Dear Saul, I will answer your e-mail posted about HBOT in the morning, You > are incorrect about the cost of the chamber, we use Real Hyperbarics > Chambers that cost over 85,000 dollars, NOT bags and you are very incorrect > about the amount of education for both the MD and my self, both my husband > are EMT, DMT, CHT's and board certified Hyperbaric Techs, We must have on > going education in order to keep our certifications, Our CV can be seen on > our website, > Dr Underwood is a MD, DO, and a JD. > So I will correct the misunderstanding in the morning or late tomorrow > night. > EMT, DMT, CHT > Dr Underwood, MD,DO,JD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Saul, Dear , I had being at an HBOT (Real HBOT) for 6-7 times... an experience really frightening! A very big chamber, king spacecraft with seats inside and mask for the oxygen... when the compression starts, you feel with the desire to get out, but your honor keep you inside... I am treating almost 100 patients that were PREVIOUSLY using and HBOT... and right now are using Intravenous ozone... the differences? They report a REAL AND FAST improvement on the afflicted part of the body, say it: brain, (hemiplegic, ADD) cancer (almost all kind of cancers )and gastric (ulcers, heartburn, candidiasis) circulatory problems (gangrene, poor circulation) and we avoid one of the complications of the HBOT (not counting the costs), the formation of blood veins at the cornea due to the exposition to the high concentrations of oxygen, since that ozone acts as H2O2 (peroxide) when it goes to the body tissues. For us, a poor country (Mexico) with a lot of patients suffering diseases related to the diminished oxygen at our atmosphere, the use of ozone in the vein is far away better than HBOT. Here ALL the treatments are free, and the application of ozone in the vein cost us 20 dollar cents... just my 2 cents. M.D. Ac.D. E.E. D.D.S. Re: HBOT Dear , I knew I did not have the correct information, and was just winging it from memory in a quick answer to show some of the contrast between the two oxygen therapies. That is why I twice wrote that you would correct me on the HBOT info. But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. When you say Real Hyperbarics, do you mean that is the name of the company that makes it, or are you referring to using 100% oxygen in it, or what? Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Saul > Dear Saul, I will answer your e-mail posted about HBOT in the morning, You > are incorrect about the cost of the chamber, we use Real Hyperbarics > Chambers that cost over 85,000 dollars, NOT bags and you are very incorrect > about the amount of education for both the MD and my self, both my husband > are EMT, DMT, CHT's and board certified Hyperbaric Techs, We must have on > going education in order to keep our certifications, Our CV can be seen on > our website, > Dr Underwood is a MD, DO, and a JD. > So I will correct the misunderstanding in the morning or late tomorrow > night. > EMT, DMT, CHT > Dr Underwood, MD,DO,JD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Saul, Dear , I had being at an HBOT (Real HBOT) for 6-7 times... an experience really frightening! A very big chamber, king spacecraft with seats inside and mask for the oxygen... when the compression starts, you feel with the desire to get out, but your honor keep you inside... I am treating almost 100 patients that were PREVIOUSLY using and HBOT... and right now are using Intravenous ozone... the differences? They report a REAL AND FAST improvement on the afflicted part of the body, say it: brain, (hemiplegic, ADD) cancer (almost all kind of cancers )and gastric (ulcers, heartburn, candidiasis) circulatory problems (gangrene, poor circulation) and we avoid one of the complications of the HBOT (not counting the costs), the formation of blood veins at the cornea due to the exposition to the high concentrations of oxygen, since that ozone acts as H2O2 (peroxide) when it goes to the body tissues. For us, a poor country (Mexico) with a lot of patients suffering diseases related to the diminished oxygen at our atmosphere, the use of ozone in the vein is far away better than HBOT. Here ALL the treatments are free, and the application of ozone in the vein cost us 20 dollar cents... just my 2 cents. M.D. Ac.D. E.E. D.D.S. Re: HBOT Dear , I knew I did not have the correct information, and was just winging it from memory in a quick answer to show some of the contrast between the two oxygen therapies. That is why I twice wrote that you would correct me on the HBOT info. But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. When you say Real Hyperbarics, do you mean that is the name of the company that makes it, or are you referring to using 100% oxygen in it, or what? Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Saul > Dear Saul, I will answer your e-mail posted about HBOT in the morning, You > are incorrect about the cost of the chamber, we use Real Hyperbarics > Chambers that cost over 85,000 dollars, NOT bags and you are very incorrect > about the amount of education for both the MD and my self, both my husband > are EMT, DMT, CHT's and board certified Hyperbaric Techs, We must have on > going education in order to keep our certifications, Our CV can be seen on > our website, > Dr Underwood is a MD, DO, and a JD. > So I will correct the misunderstanding in the morning or late tomorrow > night. > EMT, DMT, CHT > Dr Underwood, MD,DO,JD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 If IV ozone costs 20 cents, or even 20 dollars, per treatment in Mexico, I'm flabbergasted that I was told I was being given a " good price " for IV ozone at $350 a pop. Is there a reasonable explanation for why it costs so much less south of the border? Peggy >> Here ALL the treatments are free, and the application of ozone in the vein cost us 20 dollar cents... just my 2 cents. M.D. Ac.D. E.E. D.D.S.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 If IV ozone costs 20 cents, or even 20 dollars, per treatment in Mexico, I'm flabbergasted that I was told I was being given a " good price " for IV ozone at $350 a pop. Is there a reasonable explanation for why it costs so much less south of the border? Peggy >> Here ALL the treatments are free, and the application of ozone in the vein cost us 20 dollar cents... just my 2 cents. M.D. Ac.D. E.E. D.D.S.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Wayne, You are right! With the investment of 600.00 (six hundred) dollars, you can get an HBOT here in Mexico. In Veracruz, Mexico there is a company involved in the manufacturing of HBOT chambers. They follow all the security requirements for the building of those chambers... the cost is 20,000 dollars, BUT i have all the specifications and the men that can solder professionally this machine, and here in Mexicali there is a steel casting that can make us the door. I will include in a separate E-mail the picture of this HBOT (Actually in Mexico there are 100 or more HBOT chambers) all certified by the Marine Corps. and Local firemen for security purposes. I started to build one of those chambers at my place, but found EASY, Cheap, and accessible the use of ozone intravenous (and more effective in a comparative medical trial, ozone was superior in effectiveness to HBOT) I will ask permission to Reid to show his pictures (because he is on those pictures) and I'll send it by E-mail. P.S. If you need my certifications i can include them) Re: HBOT Evening Dr. Saul and the list, >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. No doubt others have thought of the question I have. Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home system from junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional HBOT system. I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air tight. It could be sealed with any material imaginable. Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem. Maybe we could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar. I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical products, designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully computer controlled system for the HBOT. Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin> Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Wayne, You are right! With the investment of 600.00 (six hundred) dollars, you can get an HBOT here in Mexico. In Veracruz, Mexico there is a company involved in the manufacturing of HBOT chambers. They follow all the security requirements for the building of those chambers... the cost is 20,000 dollars, BUT i have all the specifications and the men that can solder professionally this machine, and here in Mexicali there is a steel casting that can make us the door. I will include in a separate E-mail the picture of this HBOT (Actually in Mexico there are 100 or more HBOT chambers) all certified by the Marine Corps. and Local firemen for security purposes. I started to build one of those chambers at my place, but found EASY, Cheap, and accessible the use of ozone intravenous (and more effective in a comparative medical trial, ozone was superior in effectiveness to HBOT) I will ask permission to Reid to show his pictures (because he is on those pictures) and I'll send it by E-mail. P.S. If you need my certifications i can include them) Re: HBOT Evening Dr. Saul and the list, >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. No doubt others have thought of the question I have. Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home system from junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional HBOT system. I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air tight. It could be sealed with any material imaginable. Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem. Maybe we could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar. I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical products, designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully computer controlled system for the HBOT. Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin> Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Sorry if I am cross posting with another person, but not having the part of the E-mail that speaks about it as a reference, I suppose that this is on my last post that refers to HBOT and Ozone... Here in Mexicali we are using the application of I.V. ozone with very good results... as an example, a patient, male that was paraplegic, only moving eyes, and with the obscure prognosis of a doctor that said " Sorry for your patient, but he never will move a finger... " he is (after 2 weeks of using 30-50 c.c.. of ozone at vein) able to: Walk (with the help of crutches), talk, move his arms and legs with coarse and fine movements, able to use a cell phone (pulsing the buttons to place a call), control his sphincters (able to defecate and urinate at the bathroom.. a lot of money saved in diapers!) We apply this in a every other day basis, with an ozonator kind plasma tubes, using pure medicinal oxygen. The size of syringe barrel is 50 c.c. that can be adjusted for 20-30- or 50 c.c. Precautions? None. You can administer this ozone some quickly and none reactions. Some patients reports coughing that can be counteracted with natural orange juice but this coughing is related with the quantity of ozone vs. the corporal surface. At first, we tough that applying ozone I.V. will lead us to an embolism... for more info ask Dr. Saul Pressman, he is the master of this technique. Re: HBOT Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Sorry if I am cross posting with another person, but not having the part of the E-mail that speaks about it as a reference, I suppose that this is on my last post that refers to HBOT and Ozone... Here in Mexicali we are using the application of I.V. ozone with very good results... as an example, a patient, male that was paraplegic, only moving eyes, and with the obscure prognosis of a doctor that said " Sorry for your patient, but he never will move a finger... " he is (after 2 weeks of using 30-50 c.c.. of ozone at vein) able to: Walk (with the help of crutches), talk, move his arms and legs with coarse and fine movements, able to use a cell phone (pulsing the buttons to place a call), control his sphincters (able to defecate and urinate at the bathroom.. a lot of money saved in diapers!) We apply this in a every other day basis, with an ozonator kind plasma tubes, using pure medicinal oxygen. The size of syringe barrel is 50 c.c. that can be adjusted for 20-30- or 50 c.c. Precautions? None. You can administer this ozone some quickly and none reactions. Some patients reports coughing that can be counteracted with natural orange juice but this coughing is related with the quantity of ozone vs. the corporal surface. At first, we tough that applying ozone I.V. will lead us to an embolism... for more info ask Dr. Saul Pressman, he is the master of this technique. Re: HBOT Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Sorry if I am cross posting with another person, but not having the part of the E-mail that speaks about it as a reference, I suppose that this is on my last post that refers to HBOT and Ozone... Here in Mexicali we are using the application of I.V. ozone with very good results... as an example, a patient, male that was paraplegic, only moving eyes, and with the obscure prognosis of a doctor that said " Sorry for your patient, but he never will move a finger... " he is (after 2 weeks of using 30-50 c.c.. of ozone at vein) able to: Walk (with the help of crutches), talk, move his arms and legs with coarse and fine movements, able to use a cell phone (pulsing the buttons to place a call), control his sphincters (able to defecate and urinate at the bathroom.. a lot of money saved in diapers!) We apply this in a every other day basis, with an ozonator kind plasma tubes, using pure medicinal oxygen. The size of syringe barrel is 50 c.c. that can be adjusted for 20-30- or 50 c.c. Precautions? None. You can administer this ozone some quickly and none reactions. Some patients reports coughing that can be counteracted with natural orange juice but this coughing is related with the quantity of ozone vs. the corporal surface. At first, we tough that applying ozone I.V. will lead us to an embolism... for more info ask Dr. Saul Pressman, he is the master of this technique. Re: HBOT Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Thank you very much. My next task would be to find a source of the 50cc barrels. If you can direct me, I would be much obliged. If you will post your address, I would like to make a donation to help with your patients expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Thank you very much. My next task would be to find a source of the 50cc barrels. If you can direct me, I would be much obliged. If you will post your address, I would like to make a donation to help with your patients expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Thank you very much. My next task would be to find a source of the 50cc barrels. If you can direct me, I would be much obliged. If you will post your address, I would like to make a donation to help with your patients expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Wayne, You are not crazy, but you do not take the engineering requirements seriously enough. If you were to suffer a sudden loss of pressure, you would go into rapid decompression, producing a condition known infamously as 'the bends'. That direction will buy you a nice quiet place on Boot Hill. It would be much safer to go sit at the bottom of your pool, and breathe oxygen, although that is not totally without problems either. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Re: HBOT > Evening Dr. Saul and the list, > > > >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold > >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. > > No doubt others have thought of the question I have. > > Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home system from > junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional HBOT system. > > I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air tight. It could > be sealed with any material imaginable. > > Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem. Maybe we > could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar. > > I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical products, > designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully computer > controlled system for the HBOT. > > Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin> > > Wayne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Tim, Maybe those persons giving the application of I.V. ozone are going or working for the money. We are a non-profit organization, please visit: www.cancer-alternatives.com Thank you. M.D. P.S. " a pop " mean per application? Our costs per application is .20 (twenty cents) IT IS TRUE! Re: HBOT If IV ozone costs 20 cents, or even 20 dollars, per treatment in Mexico, I'm flabbergasted that I was told I was being given a " good price " for IV ozone at $350 a pop. Is there a reasonable explanation for why it costs so much less south of the border? Peggy >> Here ALL the treatments are free, and the application of ozone in the vein cost us 20 dollar cents... just my 2 cents. M.D. Ac.D. E.E. D.D.S.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear Peggy, Lower costs. If you exclude the cost of the ozone generator and the glass syringe, and the time of the administrator, and the overhead to keep the doors open (all fixed costs) the operating costs per shot consists of oxygen, electricity and a needle. Of that, the oxygen and electricity per shot would be somewhere under one tenth of a cent. It is the cost of the needle that makes up virtually the total operating cost. Now you can see why people who require a lengthy series of treatments often opt for buying their own generator, which can then be used to treat 20 people a day, if you want. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Re: HBOT > If IV ozone costs 20 cents, or even 20 dollars, per treatment in Mexico, I'm flabbergasted that I was told I was being given a " good price " for IV ozone at $350 a pop. Is there a reasonable explanation for why it costs so much less south of the border? > > Peggy > >> Here ALL the treatments are free, and the > application of ozone in the vein cost us 20 dollar cents... just my 2 cents. > M.D. Ac.D. E.E. D.D.S.>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Yes of course I can give the address for the glass syringes or I can sell some syringes. But we are in real financial problems and in need of 1600.00 dollars to make a " wholesale " shipment from China for 150 syringes (100 30 c.c. and 50 syringes 50 c.c. here is our web page to let you know how are we hard working to get some few dollars: www.cancer-alternatives.com My address: M.D. 1205 Eady Ave. Calexico CA 92231-3517 USA P.s. If I sell some syringes, we will getting some dollars for our sustain... after we get the shipment. RE: HBOT Thank you very much. My next task would be to find a source of the 50cc barrels. If you can direct me, I would be much obliged. If you will post your address, I would like to make a donation to help with your patients expenses. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Wayne, Are you out of your mind? Re: HBOT > Evening Dr. Saul and the list, > > > >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers sold > >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones. > > No doubt others have thought of the question I have. > > Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home system from > junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional HBOT system. > > I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air tight. It could > be sealed with any material imaginable. > > Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem. Maybe we > could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar. > > I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical products, > designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully computer > controlled system for the HBOT. > > Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin> > > Wayne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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