Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Hello All I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 We were always told that extreme urination was a sign of metals moving. Don't know if that's right or not. Barb [ ] Orthomoleculiar complex and exesive urinating Hello All I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thank you for your respond but how i can go further with helation than if this is going to dehydration arround the 3th and keep going till i stop every thing.I do want to keep helating but how i dont realy know what to do naw. Thank you > > We were always told that extreme urination was a sign of metals moving. Don't know if that's right or not. > > Barb > [ ] Orthomoleculiar complex and exesive urinating > > > > Hello All > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > Thank you > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 HI there! My son does the same thing..He urinates every 5 min but he also drinks a lot of water during rounds. i was not aware that that was a problem I thought It was a good sign ..as long as he drinks and takes his supplements It should be ok? Excessive urinating stops with the end of the round but he still drinks a lot of water between rounds. > > > > We were always told that extreme urination was a sign of metals moving. Don't know if that's right or not. > > > > Barb > > [ ] Orthomoleculiar complex and exesive urinating > > > > > > > > Hello All > > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Btw.. ALA is not a problem because my son takes only DMSA at this point and he still urinates a lot.. > > Hello All > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thank you all for your attention My son is bad water drinker i have to push it at all time when i say urinate a lot i mean at morning time as hi is on napy his all clothes are wet as well the bed and if i dont stop hi goes sick with T and if i steel live it we end up in emergancy with dehydration.I give water i bougth also sashets for dehydration but i cant go further as hi gets realy tired and lay down on the floor and get realy weak and on and on and on.Probably there is some supps wich can bring that much urinating i beleive as at the begining i didnt give too much supps and we had urinating only last day of helation but i implement others and this mighth be something to triger that. Could i helate only with vit E,A,C,and some minerals Biotin,only as more i add worst become in my opinion.If you can spend time to look at this complex i will be grateful to ALL of you. Biotin 16.7mcg Folic acid 133.3mcg Natural carotenoids 2.7mg therof alpha-carotin 23.3mcg therof criptoxantin 5.0mcg therof lutein 2.0mg therof zeaxanthin 5.0mcg therof R-carotin 0.6mg Natural vitamin E 50.0mg therof a-Toc 43.7mg therof g-Toc 2.7mg Niacine 3.3mg Vit A 333.3mcg Vit B1 3.3mg Vit B12 10.0mcg Vit B2 3.3mg Vit B6 6.7mg Vit C 166.6mg Vit D3 1.7mcg Trace elements chrome 16.7mcg manganes 1.7mg molibdenum 16.7mcg selenium 21.7mcg Zink 9.3mg Minerals calcium 53.3mg magnesium 33.3mg silicon 5.3mg quasi-vitamins choline 26.7mg inositol 20.0mg PABA 6.7mg amino acids glutation reduced f 33.3mg L-cystein 80.0mg L-methionin 40.0mg Plant extract citrus bioflavonoids 66.7mg Fibres guar gum 796.9 There is as well ALA wich is 40.0.0mg This is the day dose for 1 day i can give it at once on morning or i can devide it as ala per 3h But the chiro wich gave me that complex try to convince me that the morning dose if i give once stay in the body for more than 8h. I probably can order that complex withouth ala as 40.0 is less than my sons dose wich is 6.25/50lb If you more expirianced in helation can have a look and tell me would i bin it or to keep it it is 180 dolars but i dont realy care it is not going to be the first neither the last think wich goes to bin i have already so much there inclooding my DAN supps. Thank you > > > > Hello All > > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > > Thank you > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi! I would advise you follow Andy Cutler supplement's recommendation or Dan doctor... http://www.autismbiomedicaleurope.com/#/supplements/4544179200 I do feel that excessive urinating and sweating is a sigh that metals are moving during a round.. I do supplement my son according recommendations otherwise I feel it chelation becoming more dangerous for his little body. He is 4yo and weights 37 pounds. I do recommend for trace mineral Chelate- mate by New Beginnings and others Vit C, magnesium, calcium, milk thisle, vit B, CLO I give the separate ..I also try to spread them at least 3 times a day if he is at school otherwise 4 times a day..Many of the supplements I see You on your list are not necessary..Follow Andy C recommendations just to be safe.. ________________________________ From: RalitsaD <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:43:29 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Orthomoleculiar complex and exesive urinating Thank you all for your attention My son is bad water drinker i have to push it at all time when i say urinate a lot i mean at morning time as hi is on napy his all clothes are wet as well the bed and if i dont stop hi goes sick with T and if i steel live it we end up in emergancy with dehydration.I give water i bougth also sashets for dehydration but i cant go further as hi gets realy tired and lay down on the floor and get realy weak and on and on and on.Probably there is some supps wich can bring that much urinating i beleive as at the begining i didnt give too much supps and we had urinating only last day of helation but i implement others and this mighth be something to triger that. Could i helate only with vit E,A,C,and some minerals Biotin,only as more i add worst become in my opinion.If you can spend time to look at this complex i will be grateful to ALL of you. Biotin 16.7mcg Folic acid 133.3mcg Natural carotenoids 2.7mg therof alpha-carotin 23.3mcg therof criptoxantin 5.0mcg therof lutein 2.0mg therof zeaxanthin 5.0mcg therof R-carotin 0.6mg Natural vitamin E 50.0mg therof a-Toc 43.7mg therof g-Toc 2.7mg Niacine 3.3mg Vit A 333.3mcg Vit B1 3.3mg Vit B12 10.0mcg Vit B2 3.3mg Vit B6 6.7mg Vit C 166.6mg Vit D3 1.7mcg Trace elements chrome 16.7mcg manganes 1.7mg molibdenum 16.7mcg selenium 21.7mcg Zink 9.3mg Minerals calcium 53.3mg magnesium 33.3mg silicon 5.3mg quasi-vitamins choline 26.7mg inositol 20.0mg PABA 6.7mg amino acids glutation reduced f 33.3mg L-cystein 80.0mg L-methionin 40.0mg Plant extract citrus bioflavonoids 66.7mg Fibres guar gum 796.9 There is as well ALA wich is 40.0.0mg This is the day dose for 1 day i can give it at once on morning or i can devide it as ala per 3h But the chiro wich gave me that complex try to convince me that the morning dose if i give once stay in the body for more than 8h. I probably can order that complex withouth ala as 40.0 is less than my sons dose wich is 6.25/50lb If you more expirianced in helation can have a look and tell me would i bin it or to keep it it is 180 dolars but i dont realy care it is not going to be the first neither the last think wich goes to bin i have already so much there inclooding my DAN supps. Thank you > > > > Hello All > > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with >balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive >urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering >Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins >minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time >wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have >exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation >become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as >i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the >reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or >is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > > Thank you > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 If I understand you there is Alpha Lipoic Acid in the supplement. If this is true you must stop this supplement as Alpha Lipoic Acid can only be given every three hours on round at the same dose each time. You cannot give one time dose of 40.0mg. You will dump metals into his brain. Try the following supplements vitamin E 400iu vitamn C 750mg (divided into 4 doses per day) Magnesium 350-400mg (divided into 3-4 doses per day) Zinc 70mg (divided into 3-4 doses per day) These basic four supplements are the minimum required for chelation. Some excess urination is normal when you first begin chelation it usually sorts out sometime in the first couple of months of weekly rounds. If your child is getting dehydrated or it lasts longer than that you need to see your doctor. If the excessive urination is accompanied by lethargy, excessive desire for cold sweet drinks, increased hunger especially for sweet things, etc... you should see your dotor to rule out diabetes. Tressie > > > > > > Hello All > > > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > > > Thank you > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 This answer is what i needit to hear thank you very very much i new all that but i wasent aware that ALA will be in supliment when i purchased and i gave a try few days but my son felt bad imediately even today hi is very up and down which i didnt see with AC protocol before. Thank you for advises for supps i need it . Thank you again Ralitsa From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Orthomoleculiar complex and exesive urinating Date: Friday, 11 March, 2011, 14:58 Â If I understand you there is Alpha Lipoic Acid in the supplement. If this is true you must stop this supplement as Alpha Lipoic Acid can only be given every three hours on round at the same dose each time. You cannot give one time dose of 40.0mg. You will dump metals into his brain. Try the following supplements vitamin E 400iu vitamn C 750mg (divided into 4 doses per day) Magnesium 350-400mg (divided into 3-4 doses per day) Zinc 70mg (divided into 3-4 doses per day) These basic four supplements are the minimum required for chelation. Some excess urination is normal when you first begin chelation it usually sorts out sometime in the first couple of months of weekly rounds. If your child is getting dehydrated or it lasts longer than that you need to see your doctor. If the excessive urination is accompanied by lethargy, excessive desire for cold sweet drinks, increased hunger especially for sweet things, etc... you should see your dotor to rule out diabetes. Tressie > > > > > > Hello All > > > I have been doing AC helation with my son but i always had problems with balansing the vitamins and antioxidants and my son with autism had exessive urinating and nearly dehydration on rounds so we have been ofering Orthomoleculiar complex wich suposed to be balanc in between all vitamins minerals and ALA but the exessive urinating start again and i stop it on time wich didnt crash my son.I have tested him for diabetis negative.Hi seems to have exessive urinating before only on rounds last day after with further helation become often and often .Can some one tel me what could be the possible reason as i cant helate if this will persist. Thank you all with your advices.Is the reason could be that i over supliment with vit E,C,A,or minerals,B vitamins.Or is it possible ALA to be the reason ALA 6.25 per 3h per 50lb boy? > > > Thank you > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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