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Hi, Kip,

Why toothpaste? In my experience, nothing beats a combination of salt, baking

soda, and perixide.

RD

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> From: Kip King <wodi007@...>

>

> I use Natural White toohpaste (purple tube) which contains no fluoride

> and Biotene mouthwash which also contains no fluoride. I was hard to

> find brands which didn't have any fluoride. If I hadn't found those, I

> was going to use baking soda.

>

> AKchum@... wrote:

> >

> > From: AKchum@...

> >

> > I understand your feelings on the subject, Cammellia. However, many doctors

> > do not treat hypothyroidism in a very thoughtful way. They throw a thyroxin

> > prescription at people at best, and at worst they turn them away improperly

> > diagnosed. So I can understand why people are looking for answers aside

from

> > what their doctors have to say.

> >

> > For myself, I'd like to recommend that anyone with symptoms of

hypothyroidism

> > look into fluoride as a possible culprit. Fluoridated water can give you

the

> > symptoms of hypothyroidism because fluoride reduces the amount of thyroid

> > hormone in your body. If you're interested in learning more about the

> > dangers of water fluoridation, this is a good place to start looking. There

> > are also links and you can follow for more info. I have no connection to

the

> > site, I just recommend it because it's the best starting point I've seen,

and

> > they don't sell anything.

> >

> > http://www.nofluoride.com

> >

> > M.

> >

> > >

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RD,

I think you're probably right but, if you're going to use toothpaste

it's better to use one without fluoride.

Kip

donci@... wrote:

>

> Hi, Kip,

>

> Why toothpaste? In my experience, nothing beats a combination of salt, baking

soda, and perixide.

>

> RD

>

> ---- you wrote:

> > From: Kip King <wodi007@...>

> >

> > I use Natural White toohpaste (purple tube) which contains no fluoride

> > and Biotene mouthwash which also contains no fluoride. I was hard to

> > find brands which didn't have any fluoride. If I hadn't found those, I

> > was going to use baking soda.

> >

> > AKchum@... wrote:

> > >

> > > From: AKchum@...

> > >

> > > I understand your feelings on the subject, Cammellia. However, many

doctors

> > > do not treat hypothyroidism in a very thoughtful way. They throw a

thyroxin

> > > prescription at people at best, and at worst they turn them away

improperly

> > > diagnosed. So I can understand why people are looking for answers aside

from

> > > what their doctors have to say.

> > >

> > > For myself, I'd like to recommend that anyone with symptoms of

hypothyroidism

> > > look into fluoride as a possible culprit. Fluoridated water can give you

the

> > > symptoms of hypothyroidism because fluoride reduces the amount of thyroid

> > > hormone in your body. If you're interested in learning more about the

> > > dangers of water fluoridation, this is a good place to start looking.

There

> > > are also links and you can follow for more info. I have no connection to

the

> > > site, I just recommend it because it's the best starting point I've seen,

and

> > > they don't sell anything.

> > >

> > > http://www.nofluoride.com

> > >

> > > M.

> > >

> > > >

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RD,

I think you're probably right but, if you're going to use toothpaste

it's better to use one without fluoride.

Kip

donci@... wrote:

>

> From: donci@...

>

> Hi, Kip,

>

> Why toothpaste? In my experience, nothing beats a combination of salt, baking

soda, and perixide.

>

> RD

>

> ---- you wrote:

> > From: Kip King <wodi007@...>

> >

> > I use Natural White toohpaste (purple tube) which contains no fluoride

> > and Biotene mouthwash which also contains no fluoride. I was hard to

> > find brands which didn't have any fluoride. If I hadn't found those, I

> > was going to use baking soda.

> >

> > AKchum@... wrote:

> > >

> > > From: AKchum@...

> > >

> > > I understand your feelings on the subject, Cammellia. However, many

doctors

> > > do not treat hypothyroidism in a very thoughtful way. They throw a

thyroxin

> > > prescription at people at best, and at worst they turn them away

improperly

> > > diagnosed. So I can understand why people are looking for answers aside

from

> > > what their doctors have to say.

> > >

> > > For myself, I'd like to recommend that anyone with symptoms of

hypothyroidism

> > > look into fluoride as a possible culprit. Fluoridated water can give you

the

> > > symptoms of hypothyroidism because fluoride reduces the amount of thyroid

> > > hormone in your body. If you're interested in learning more about the

> > > dangers of water fluoridation, this is a good place to start looking.

There

> > > are also links and you can follow for more info. I have no connection to

the

> > > site, I just recommend it because it's the best starting point I've seen,

and

> > > they don't sell anything.

> > >

> > > http://www.nofluoride.com

> > >

> > > M.

> > >

> > > >

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Phil,

When I was a starving student in my late teens I made the same toothpaste as

below. I didn't use sea salt, just whatever was cheapest. I had NO cavities

before the age of twenty, but SEVERAL in my early twenties. I often wonder

if the cavities were caused by stopping using fluoride toothpaste. Having a

mouth full of amalgam is something else that gives me pause.

I seem to remember some research that hydrogen peroxide used too much on the

oral mucosa can cause cancer.

I would think twice about taking my kids off fluoride toothpaste, but for

older people I don't think that fluoride is necessary.

Barb

<< Judy

I also make a toothpaste with a 3:1 of baking soda to sea salt. I add enough

hydrogen peroxide to make a paste.I'm using some 2.5% I made from a 30%

container. It does get my teeth much cleaner

than regular toothpaste. But Patti has given me an idea;I'll try adding

some peppermint oil I have on hand for flavor.

Phil

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Barb

Thanks for the warning. Do you remember where you read about the peroxide and

oral cancer?

Phil

kb46@... wrote:

> Phil,

> When I was a starving student in my late teens I made the same toothpaste as

> below. I didn't use sea salt, just whatever was cheapest. I had NO cavities

> before the age of twenty, but SEVERAL in my early twenties. I often wonder

> if the cavities were caused by stopping using fluoride toothpaste. Having a

> mouth full of amalgam is something else that gives me pause.

>

> I seem to remember some research that hydrogen peroxide used too much on the

> oral mucosa can cause cancer.

>

> I would think twice about taking my kids off fluoride toothpaste, but for

> older people I don't think that fluoride is necessary.

>

> Barb

>

> << Judy

> I also make a toothpaste with a 3:1 of baking soda to sea salt. I add enough

> hydrogen peroxide to make a paste.I'm using some 2.5% I made from a 30%

> container. It does get my teeth much cleaner

> than regular toothpaste. But Patti has given me an idea;I'll try adding

> some peppermint oil I have on hand for flavor.

>

> Phil

> >>

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Phil,

I don't remember the source. I think it was mice developed oral cancer if

their gums were exposed to a lot of hydrogen peroxide, don't know how that

translates to humans...

I did a quick search of Altavista and medical/dental sites, couldn't

find anything. I mean it was a quick search, I have a long time dental

phobia.

Barb

<< Barb

Thanks for the warning. Do you remember where you read about the peroxide

and oral cancer?

Phil

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I use this same brand but use the anise flavor - has *lots* of zing to it. I

like it! =)

Odrade ~ Aydn's Mama

> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 07:21:53 -0400

> From: Shelby <helminger@...>

>

> I have used Homeodent (Boiron), it is lemon flavored. Not a LOT of zing, but I

> liked it. Weleda makes a salt toothpaste with baking soda, lots of zing. No

> fluoride in any weleda.

> S.

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In a message dated 03/11/2001 6:12:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,

annhope1@... writes:

<< The powder had a wonderful

taste but for the life of me I can't remember what the name of it was.

Seemed

like the powder was white? Anyone remember this? >>

I think it was called Dr. Lyon's toothpaste powder. It came in a blue oval

metal tin. As I remember the taste wasn't bad at all.

love and joy

Kiasi

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perhaps pepsodent? Or pepsident? That rings some long ago bell to me.

Donna

-Subject: toothpaste

And I have looked high and low for something that actually whitened the

teeth

and was healthy for the gums and was non commercial. And I think I finally

found it. I really like this stuff. I think it was like $12 for a small

bottle of powder, but you don't use much and I actually look forward to

brushing my teeth instead of dreading it.

Donna

Donna,

When I was very young (1950's) my mother used to buy a toothpaste powder

that came in a small, maybe oval can(I think). The powder had a wonderful

taste but for the life of me I can't remember what the name of it was.

Seemed

like the powder was white? Anyone remember this?

Terri L.

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Well, I could be wrong, but isn't that just baking soda and salt, with some oils

added. I don't like baking soda on my teeth because it causes my gums to bleed

and makes my teeth sensitive. But thanks for sharing. I am always looking for

a good toothpaste. Haven't found one yet.

Thanks for all the info. Abutilon

Donna

-----Original Message-----

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

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Hi Donna,

I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So I

mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to know

much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

SaraLou

Re: toothpaste

Well, I could be wrong, but isn't that just baking soda and salt, with some

oils added. I don't like baking soda on my teeth because it causes my gums to

bleed and makes my teeth sensitive. But thanks for sharing. I am always

looking for a good toothpaste. Haven't found one yet.

Thanks for all the info. Abutilon

Donna

-----Original Message-----

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

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on 10/11/01 12:10 PM, Donna at ruthful@... wrote:

Hi Abutilon, What can you tell me about this tooth paste?

What is in it? Why do you like it? How much does it cost? How do you

purchase it?

Hi Donna,

I understand your hesitations. On the other hand, as you say H2O2 is sure

cheap.

Here's the info on the toothpaste I use:

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

It costs $8.75 for a 3oz jar. It's powderlike. Not cheap, but it goes a

looooong way for us since we need to use only a small amount. In the US you

can get it from Self Health Resource Center in CA; phone # is ;

web page is: www.shrc.net; e-mail is: info@....

The company name on the jar is: Wholesome, 2527 Snowdrop Street, San Diego,

Ca, 92105.

Why I like it: - I've always had a hard time with any/all toothpastes. they

burn. all of them.

So, first, this one doesn't burn. Also, it feels GREAT in my mouth, during

and after, feels really clean [meaning no bacteria anymore]; it whitens my

teeth smoothly/progressively. My gums look and feel healthier even after

using it only once. Furthermore there is absolutely no pain (even stops it

for me) and no bleeding, even though I have very sensitive teeth/gums. Plus,

I like the taste.

Abutilon

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on 10/11/01 12:10 PM, Donna at ruthful@... wrote:

Hi Abutilon, What can you tell me about this tooth paste?

What is in it? Why do you like it? How much does it cost? How do you

purchase it?

Hi Donna,

I understand your hesitations. On the other hand, as you say H2O2 is sure

cheap.

Here's the info on the toothpaste I use:

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

It costs $8.75 for a 3oz jar. It's powderlike. Not cheap, but it goes a

looooong way for us since we need to use only a small amount. In the US you

can get it from Self Health Resource Center in CA; phone # is ;

web page is: www.shrc.net; e-mail is: info@....

The company name on the jar is: Wholesome, 2527 Snowdrop Street, San Diego,

Ca, 92105.

Why I like it: - I've always had a hard time with any/all toothpastes. they

burn. all of them.

So, first, this one doesn't burn. Also, it feels GREAT in my mouth, during

and after, feels really clean [meaning no bacteria anymore]; it whitens my

teeth smoothly/progressively. My gums look and feel healthier even after

using it only once. Furthermore there is absolutely no pain (even stops it

for me) and no bleeding, even though I have very sensitive teeth/gums. Plus,

I like the taste.

Abutilon

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on 10/11/01 12:10 PM, Donna at ruthful@... wrote:

Hi Abutilon, What can you tell me about this tooth paste?

What is in it? Why do you like it? How much does it cost? How do you

purchase it?

Hi Donna,

I understand your hesitations. On the other hand, as you say H2O2 is sure

cheap.

Here's the info on the toothpaste I use:

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

It costs $8.75 for a 3oz jar. It's powderlike. Not cheap, but it goes a

looooong way for us since we need to use only a small amount. In the US you

can get it from Self Health Resource Center in CA; phone # is ;

web page is: www.shrc.net; e-mail is: info@....

The company name on the jar is: Wholesome, 2527 Snowdrop Street, San Diego,

Ca, 92105.

Why I like it: - I've always had a hard time with any/all toothpastes. they

burn. all of them.

So, first, this one doesn't burn. Also, it feels GREAT in my mouth, during

and after, feels really clean [meaning no bacteria anymore]; it whitens my

teeth smoothly/progressively. My gums look and feel healthier even after

using it only once. Furthermore there is absolutely no pain (even stops it

for me) and no bleeding, even though I have very sensitive teeth/gums. Plus,

I like the taste.

Abutilon

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Potassium nitrate (5%) is the active ingredient is toothpastes for sensitive

teeth. Aquafresh is such a brand, available at Walmart etc.

Chuck

The universe does not have laws--it has habits, and habits can be broken!

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:19:04 -0500, " SaraLou Pedigo "

wrote:

>I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So I

mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

>

>Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to

know much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

>

>SaraLou

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Potassium nitrate (5%) is the active ingredient is toothpastes for sensitive

teeth. Aquafresh is such a brand, available at Walmart etc.

Chuck

The universe does not have laws--it has habits, and habits can be broken!

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:19:04 -0500, " SaraLou Pedigo "

wrote:

>I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So I

mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

>

>Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to

know much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

>

>SaraLou

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Potassium nitrate (5%) is the active ingredient is toothpastes for sensitive

teeth. Aquafresh is such a brand, available at Walmart etc.

Chuck

The universe does not have laws--it has habits, and habits can be broken!

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:19:04 -0500, " SaraLou Pedigo "

wrote:

>I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So I

mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

>

>Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to

know much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

>

>SaraLou

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Donna,

I went thru what you are going thru! Send Me Your Mailing address and I'll

send you some good info> You will be happy about it!

Charlie cpj1on1@...

Re: toothpaste

Well, I could be wrong, but isn't that just baking soda and salt, with some

oils added. I don't like baking soda on my teeth because it causes my gums to

bleed and makes my teeth sensitive. But thanks for sharing. I am always

looking for a good toothpaste. Haven't found one yet.

Thanks for all the info. Abutilon

Donna

-----Original Message-----

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

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Donna,

I went thru what you are going thru! Send Me Your Mailing address and I'll

send you some good info> You will be happy about it!

Charlie cpj1on1@...

Re: toothpaste

Well, I could be wrong, but isn't that just baking soda and salt, with some

oils added. I don't like baking soda on my teeth because it causes my gums to

bleed and makes my teeth sensitive. But thanks for sharing. I am always

looking for a good toothpaste. Haven't found one yet.

Thanks for all the info. Abutilon

Donna

-----Original Message-----

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

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Donna,

I went thru what you are going thru! Send Me Your Mailing address and I'll

send you some good info> You will be happy about it!

Charlie cpj1on1@...

Re: toothpaste

Well, I could be wrong, but isn't that just baking soda and salt, with some

oils added. I don't like baking soda on my teeth because it causes my gums to

bleed and makes my teeth sensitive. But thanks for sharing. I am always

looking for a good toothpaste. Haven't found one yet.

Thanks for all the info. Abutilon

Donna

-----Original Message-----

- Contains: Sodium bicarbonate; sodium chloride; grain alcohol; oils of

peppermint, wintergreen, and wild oregano, and full spectrum light

treated.

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Hi Sara Lou. What a great Idea. Thanks. I have done some stuff in the past

with peppermint oil because it is such a great cleaner and leaves the teeth

feeling really clean and smooth, but it is such an appetite stimulant that I

stopped using it. I think I will try the oregano oil or citrus. I have lots

of msm powder to add it too.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So

I mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to

know much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

SaraLou

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Hi Sara Lou. What a great Idea. Thanks. I have done some stuff in the past

with peppermint oil because it is such a great cleaner and leaves the teeth

feeling really clean and smooth, but it is such an appetite stimulant that I

stopped using it. I think I will try the oregano oil or citrus. I have lots

of msm powder to add it too.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So

I mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to

know much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

SaraLou

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Hi Sara Lou. What a great Idea. Thanks. I have done some stuff in the past

with peppermint oil because it is such a great cleaner and leaves the teeth

feeling really clean and smooth, but it is such an appetite stimulant that I

stopped using it. I think I will try the oregano oil or citrus. I have lots

of msm powder to add it too.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

I don't remember where I read it...but MSM whitens teeth. s' book. So

I mix my own with a lot of MSM crystals, a very little baking soda and some salt

with oregano oil and or tea tree and or myrrh and or a citrus or mint EO.

Aside: my dentist, who doesn't place amalgams but who also doesn't seem to

know much about poison, told me to use a fluoride toothpaste to lessen tooth

sensitivity.

SaraLou

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I can't find the article now, but I recall that

ozonated olive oil is good for brushing the

teeth. Maybe you can find a link with a

search on the Internet.

Betsy

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BlankDoes anyone in the group have a recipe for toothpaste made with calcium

carbonate...? My dear sis is wanting to make some and we can't find any info.

for this. If you can help out we'd really appreciate it.

Also, have any of you used Ascorbic Acid in your creams or lotions, if so what

would be the amount to use???

=^..^= Sandy

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