Doctors

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Hello,

digitized homeopathic remedies is not new.

They can be applied in the form of bioresonance to the body directly.

With the QXCI machine, one can place a bottle of water on the apparatus, and

the needed homeopathic are transformed into the water.

It works.

I am doing some testing by placing certain frequencies into some pebble

stones.

(I am doing that with a Rife machine)

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Re: DOCTORS

> Most doctors I know will not be able to help. They are not aware of the

> research in the field and have no tools as yet. I wish they did. One day

> they will.

>

> Maybe I shouldn't call myself a doctor. but that is where I started. I've

> been through a lot since those days. I graduated in 1947 And i passed

> beyond the 'doctor' stage in the late 60's. For example I was using the

> conductive carbon paints you are discussing now, many years ago when I was

> working withthe problem of how to heat up the surface of plastics for an

> invention I working with.

> I have 3 patents.None of them in the field of .

> But in the last 4 years I have been working with a man who has a

> different approach to dealing with EMF radiation.

> He is an inventor engineer healer.

> His approach is to increase the bodies capacity to deal with the high EMF

> radiation that is around us using digitized homeopathic remedies.

> If you are interested let me know.

> I am not sure his inventions will be helpfull when you have become an EMF

> sensative person... one who gets very sick from radiation.

> But it is helpful to people who get headaches, anxiety and loss of energy

> from working with computers as a part of their daily routine.

>

> I have been collecting the research done in this area but its scattered.

> For example, now a Swedish researcher has been demonstrated that EMF

> radiations do cause skin changes.

>

> It might interest you that the former director of the WHO Gro Haarlam

> Bruntland is esensitive. She tried to introduce a 'cautionary principle'

> that would caution parents against allowing children to use mobile phones,

> but when she retired not long after, WHO reversed their position and did

> not set any limits or advisories about this.

> .

> But I understand that when you are esensative you want to reduce the

> symptoms not just get explanations etc

>

> I have found that to really invent something new or introduce an

> invention you need to feel the problem fully. Thatis one reason I am glad

> to be in this group. Another is that I feel children especially need

> protection so they do not become esensitive, and the third is I wish I

> could find a way to more completely protect myself from the many many

> sources of EMF radiation. I think I would feel quite different if that

> were possible. I know when I visit places without electricity I feel much

> more alive. I wonder if there are not a lot of peopke who would feel as I

> do if they did not take the EMF surround as a given

>

>

> iedbunnie <iedbunnie@...> wrote:

> WHAT TYPE OF DOCTOR DO I SEEK OUT TO GET MOVING ON EMF AND

> HYPERSENSITIVITY?

> A NEUROLOGIST, AN ENVIRONMENTAL MD -----who? IRENE

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I agree with Marc, same with *me*!

Flavio

>

> > WHAT TYPE OF DOCTOR DO I SEEK OUT TO GET MOVING ON EMF AND

> > HYPERSENSITIVITY?

> > A NEUROLOGIST, AN ENVIRONMENTAL MD -----who? IRENE

>

> I think it would be a very rare medical doctor that could

> help you with ES. Such a doctor probably would be helping

> folks with chronic fatigue syndrome and environmental illness.

> You may find a higher percentage of folks who could help in

> the alternative medical field, if you can find such folks

> in your area. People who focus on the above things, plus

> nutrition and detoxification.

>

> After going to over a dozen health practitioners, the most

> helpful people I found for myself weren't even doctors at

> all (e.g. the last person I saw was a " nutritionist " ).

>

> Although, I suppose that nobody has helped me more then *me*,

> as it seems that most of my major breakthroughs have been due

> to my own research and my own trial & error.

>

> Marc

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>

> I saw a Dr Dowson for a Medico Legal report who stated in

writing that he considered I was ES. He operates out of Harley Street

London and Bath or somewhere. He is an complimentary medicine Dr who

has great knowledge re ME...

If you want more info I can get this for you. Although Google should

find him.

It occurs to me though that you are in the states or somewhere so this

post is probably as good as chocolate fireguard.

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Dear Liz, I'm in the LA area also. So, if you hear of anyone, please let me know. Love, Pamela <ecmillerreid@...> wrote: Anyone know anyone in the Los Angeles area who uses iodine therapy? Does Dr. Abraham still practice? Liz

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>

> Anyone know anyone in the Los Angeles area who uses iodine therapy?

> Does Dr. Abraham still practice?

>

Hi Liz,

I believe Quillin, ND, prescribes iodine, esp for breast cancer

women. He is in Southern CA. http://www.patrickquillin.com/.

Madeleen

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>>> I have personally interviewed over 30

general/family doctors who believe nutrition is OK for general

consideration, but is not all that important and really has no effect on

major illness or long term disabilities. <<<<

My next to last (2 1/2 now) baby weighed almost 12 lbs and my OB told me I

would have to have a c-sec if I had another. I asked if there was anything

nutritionally I could do to have a smaller baby. He said NO! He said it didn't

matter what I ate or if I exercised, Nothing would help. I started eating NT/WAP

and my next baby (he is now 4 mo old) was just under 8 lbs. and extremely

healthy. I have not had any good experiences with doctors. They seem to know

absolutely nothing about nutrition and how it affects the body. They don't seem

to be aware of the connections between the different body parts

(gut/brain/etc)and how what you do to one part is going to affect the others,

etc. I have had doctors tell me there is no other way to do things other than

their way (chemically/medically) and others who actually asked my advise

regarding natural healing (and I know almost nothing compared to many of you).

The medical profession has much too much power (they can have kids taken away

for medical neglect if you don't obey them) and much too little knowledge for

theirs or our own good! Blessings,

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Indeed, 90% of the doctors I have met suck. Some are very well-meaning, but

misinformed. Some just seem mean and arrogant. However, I have had the

privelege and fortune to find some truly exceptional doctors and homeopaths.

They treat holistically and don't overprescribe. They're smart, and know

about nutrition. You just have to look real hard...

On 4/14/06, CHRISTINE TAYLOR <trays.family@...> wrote:

>

>

> >>> I have personally interviewed over 30

> general/family doctors who believe nutrition is OK for general

> consideration, but is not all that important and really has no effect on

> major illness or long term disabilities. <<<<

>

> My next to last (2 1/2 now) baby weighed almost 12 lbs and my OB told me

> I would have to have a c-sec if I had another. I asked if there was anything

> nutritionally I could do to have a smaller baby. He said NO! He said it

> didn't matter what I ate or if I exercised, Nothing would help. I started

> eating NT/WAP and my next baby (he is now 4 mo old) was just under 8 lbs.

> and extremely healthy. I have not had any good experiences with doctors.

> They seem to know absolutely nothing about nutrition and how it affects the

> body. They don't seem to be aware of the connections between the different

> body parts (gut/brain/etc)and how what you do to one part is going to affect

> the others, etc. I have had doctors tell me there is no other way to do

> things other than their way (chemically/medically) and others who actually

> asked my advise regarding natural healing (and I know almost nothing

> compared to many of you). The medical profession has much too much power

> (they can have kids taken away for medical neglect if you don't obey them)

> and much too little knowledge for theirs or our own good! Blessings,

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I HEAR that. I had a Dr's appt today and I felt like I was talking to a two

year old. Can my Dr actually be THAT clueless? I knew more than he did. I

told him about my period stopping 6 months ago and he said to me " are you

pregnant? " to which I said " no " and he replied " ya know, if you were

pregnant that would explain why your period stopped. " I had all I could do

to not laugh in this guy's face. He has a PhD!!!!!

Shirley

>From: " " <JuneRose474@...>

>Thank you for your advice and constant determiniation to remind people

>of the true dangers of candida. I can't believe a complete stranger is

>advising me on how to get better (and it's working) while my own

>physician tells me there is no such thing as candidiasis.--

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Sue,

I have thyroid/adrenal issues caused by candida so my hormones are all

messed up. I believe that is why my period stopped.

Shirley

>From: susan krukas <tauttodream@...>

>did the candida stop your periods? Mine stopped last september and i began

> candid cleanse and >they began with again.

> Sue

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my hormones are all messed up also but that because i am going through

peri-menopause. Last year when my dr told me he was suspicious of a yeast

overgrowth he said to me " your hormones are changing and that is promoting a

fungal overgrowth " get on this diet and stay there...I should probably listen

now.

sue

Shirley G <chickwbrains@...> wrote:

Sue,

I have thyroid/adrenal issues caused by candida so my hormones are all

messed up. I believe that is why my period stopped.

Shirley

>From: susan krukas <tauttodream@...>

>did the candida stop your periods? Mine stopped last september and i began

> candid cleanse and >they began with again.

> Sue

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I think one year of medical school should be spent inducing certain

symptoms in the med students so when someone describes something the

student can RELATE!

I love my doctor though. He is just a little country doc, but very

empathetic and the one who decided to test me for AIP. I wish I could

clone him for you folks.

God bless you all!

Lawana

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Pat,

I like your husband's response! I still have a question about Rheumatologists

that I sent out last week. I understand that lots of you are seeing these guys

for the pain that you're experiencing. Knock on wood, I haven't had that too bad

at this point. Do any of these guys also treat or address Sjorgren's Syndrome? I

ask this because my

primary care suggested this was the route to go (vs. the pulmonologist that

I've been

seeing). I'm definitely through with that guy anyway. My doctor didn't push me

to see

a rheumotologist; just told me to give it some thought.

Gotta go! Albert Pujols just hit a homerun and after losing to the Nationals

yesterday, I've got to watch this one. (sorry if any of you are from

Washington). Hate to brag on

the Cardinals too much but Sat. Albert hit 3 homeruns in the 1st inning.

patricia bryant <auntpat5@...> wrote:

Clara,

I have met some doctors who " THINK " they know it all!

My husband's answer to this is that they are

" practicing " medicine. My doctors do communicate with

each other thank goodness. Good health, Pat

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About Rheumatologists---- I ask this because my primary care

suggested this was the route to go (vs. the pulmonologist that I've

been seeing).

Hi , ( maybe I am getting the hang of this email stuff on the web)

Re: your concern with seeing a Rheumatologists! They are involved in

many different forms of the disease, not just the pain and arthritis,

but certain lung problems and who knows what else. My sister who died

last April, was seeing a Rheumatologists, because they were not sure

what caused her Interstitial Lung Disease. ( See site : ---

http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E & b=35436#what )

She never did find out what caused it, although they were trying to

treat her for some rhematoid problem. She almost made it to a lung

transplant. But I guess almost does not count very often. Clara, OR

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P -

Don't feel bad - many of us have had the same experience! I am just sorry you

did, too. I eventually convinced my doctor what to prescribe me.

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what an idiot. at least my doctor accepted it's a real disease. but she thought

it only occured in severely immune deficient folks. like people with hiv and

stuff....

is your candida that bad that you have to take nystatin? i'm curious bc mine

is real bad....it's in my lungs and i hate not being able to breathe proper...

thanks!

shefy

greyhoundchat <PParkegail@...> wrote:

I cannot believe that I went to my doc today (a young female) who

said " We don't prescribe Nystatin for systemic Candidiasis because

there's no proof that it exists "

P

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Ha ha, I first read that as your doctor saying theres no proof that

Nystatin exists!

I was prescribed Nystatin, not because my problem is so bad, but so

that I don't have to (according to the doctor) be so rigid with the

diet. I haven't started taking it yet because I'm still finding it so

difficult to cut out all the bad foods.

ita

> I cannot believe that I went to my doc today (a young

female) who

> said " We don't prescribe Nystatin for systemic Candidiasis because

> there's no proof that it exists "

> P

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This is an excellent question, one which I have struggled with for the

past 4 years until I found what I was looking for with Dr. Byrd at OSU.

When I was diagnosis in 2-02 my local Onc suggested I get a second

opinion. I did, and went to Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minn. The Mayo

Dr. suggested treatment with FR and my local Onc thought I should W & W.

I did have 6 cycles of FR and was absent the disease until 9-05.

I tried to contact the Dr. at Mayo several times between 2003-2004 and

had no response. When I relapsed in 9-05 I did contract the Mayo Dr and

his suggestion for treatment was not appropriate for my CLL and did not

offer much in the way of treatment options.

I had appt with Dr. Mark Karminski at the University of Michigan Ann

Arbor in Nov 2005. His treatment options would have been Bexxar, which

was not appropriate my my CLL. He made several other suggestions for

treatment, however I felt CLL was not the major focus for them.

My next appt was with Dr. Keating in Dec 2005 at MDA. Professional group

of employees--very busy clinic-hard to get a response from Dr. K--but

support staff were helpful. Dr. K felt I would not need treatment for a

year or two. I had about 6 minutes of time with Dr. K over two days.

In March 06 my nodes continued to grow and were in the 5+ cm range. My

local Onc felt I needed treatment and after talking with Dr. Keating it

was decided to treat with FCR. I had 4 cycles of the 6 cycles of FCR

and became ill so stopped. The treatment of the 4 cycles did reduce the

nodes.

During 06 I heard my good comments about Dr. Byrd at OSU, Columbus,

Ohio. I had an appt with him in Sept 06. He spent about 45 minutes with

me and made several recommendations . Several weeks later I received a

detailed letter and recomendation concerning my CLL. I made a phone call

to the clinic and received the information I requested promptly. I will

continue my evaluation and treatment with Dr. Byrd along with my local

Onc.

How does this answer the question on how to find a CLL Dr.

First since I live Kalamazoo, Mi I wanted to find a local Onc that I

could have an effective relationship with (contract in the office or

Email) who would answer questions etc and not get upset if I would seek

other opinions. I lucked out, and have had the same local Onc since

2-02. She treats CLL and many other cancers

My second goal was to find a major teaching hospital that not only

specialized in CLL, but the Dr. would provide sufficient " face time "

during your visit. Also the clinic must provide the follow up to

questions in a timely manner. Dr. Byrd at OSU and his staff met my

expectations.

The only way I reached this conclusion was doing what I did. Seek

opinions and treatment recomemdations from several teaching hospitals

and find a CLL Dr. that I felt had an understanding of my disease and

would take the time and effort to discuss it with me.

I hope that this helps. Each hospital I went to, I did by the way

of self referral. The web site for each hospital provides a way to do

this.

Regards

gordon

As

> Hi CIG people -

>

> The LA Seminar was, in my opinion, a terrific experience for CLLers.

>

> We had two sessions back to back, with lunch in the middle, lasting

from 11 to almost 2. There were about 35-40 people.

>

> First Dr. Kipps gave an authoritative talk about CLL, with a good deal

of focus about new avenues that are being explored.

>

> The Dr. Rai took the podium, and instead of continuing, turned the

session into an hour and a half of two way discussion and Q & A. Needless

to say, there were many controversial question.

>

> I believe that the principal impression I came away with from Dr.

Kipps' talk was the innumerable questions being explored in order to

understand and change the pathways by which a CLL cancer is born.

>

> Dr. Rai's chief message was " do not treat unnecessarily " . He cited

several examples where a patient/onclogist relationship had evolved into

a series of not very meaningful tests and TXs.

>

> Dr. Kipps' talk will be on webcast at http://www.lymphoma.org/ in

about two weeks.

>

> Both sessions (as well as all sessions) can be obtained on audio tape.

I have some forms, and can fax them to you if you have a fax number. I

do not have the forms electronically.

>

> I will send another e-mail soon, summarizing some impressions I came

away with.

>

>

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Ok if I was you you know what I would do is send it to the Chiari Institute in

Long Island they are really really good and although they deal with my

particular diseases they have taken on cases like your own and have come up with

really great results

fraft13 <fraft13@...> wrote:

Can anyone explain to my how five different doctors can look at the

same MRI and get five different opinions. I had an injury on November

24, 2005, couldn't move my head or neck afterward and have been in

constant pain since. All of the doctors that I have seen tell me

either " disc is herniated, not herniated, bone spur, ddd, old age, I'm

fine, blah blah blah. It is really awful how they all look at the

same picture and see different things. What is going on?

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I am going to be banned on the 21st and will need fills in the same

area you are in . Can you tell me who is best to see, or where I will

able to get it none? I live in Snohomish. Thanks!

Barbara

>

> I live in Lynnwood & I would not go to a doctor here unless I called

> them first & ask if they take Lapband done by another doctor first. I

> went to 2 different clinics here before I went to Mexico & now that I

> am back I got a bill from one for $300 for a PA to take my vitals. I

> called to complain & talked with the director & I told him I had went

> to Mexico & he got very hostile & said 'where do you plan on getting

> anyone to do fills'?

>

> There are several doctors & clinics in the Sea/Tac area that will

take

> on patients that had surgery in Mexico as long as it is an Inamed

band

> which is what we got. Just call first.

>

> Steve

>

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>

> /I am going to be banned on the 21st and will need fills in the same

> area you are in/I live in Snohomish. Barbara/

>

>

There is a place in Arlington called Fill Management Northwest, their

phone number is 360-435-5365. Their literature says " Patients banded

in Mexico are more than welcome. " Prices are: $150 for the first visit

w/a 10-day free unfill, additional fills within the 3-10 days are

$50. Subsequent fills are $125. They will do it under floroscopy

(sp) but you will need to call to ask how much.

There is a support group here in Port Orchard, and if we have enough

who want a fill, they will come on our meeting night to fill us!

Theresa

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Barbara, Hi. I see that we are going to be band buddies. My surgery is also the 21st. My husband and I will be driving down. joy4jane BMI 66.9 current- I won't tell / goal?? Dear God, If you won't make me thin, please make my friends fat! NOT! basin151 <basin151@...> wrote: I am going to be banned on the 21st and will need fills in the same area you are in . Can you tell me who is best to see, or where I will able to get it none? I live in Snohomish. Thanks!Barbara>> I live in Lynnwood & I would not go to a doctor here unless I called > them first & ask if they take Lapband done by another doctor first. I > went to 2 different clinics here before I went to Mexico & now that I > am back

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Yes, please know that you do have support here. Obviously, we're not as much

of a comfort as a warm shoulder next to you would be, but we can be of some

help.

Oddly, it was during a routine annual visit to an allergist that my liver

problem was first noticed -- because of the rashless itch. That was seven

years

ago. Last week, in the post office in a town two hours from that city, a

man made some polite comment like " nice weather today. " I recognized him

immediately as that doctor, the allergist. Seven years ago he saw what I was

going to be dealing with and made sure I was going to see the right doctors

immediately.

He even called me on his vacation to be certain that I'd been treated

appropriately, as he knew just what was wrong with me and how serious it could

be. He

didn't remember me, but I certainly remembered him!

I'd always wanted the chance to tell him thank you, but for months I wasn't

well enough to even manage a phone call, and then I found he'd retired. So, I

finally could look at him face to face, reasonably healthy again, and say

thanks. I was so glad to be able to do that.

Harper

In a message dated 12/8/07 2:43:41 PM, majuli@... writes:

>

> Kathy, I too want to know the results of your visit to Dr. Little. Dee, my

> heart goes out to you more than I can say, my sister committed suicide in 1984

> and I've never gotten over it.

>

> I also want to say that I had one of those long journeys, visiting

> dermatologists, rheumatologists, every doc I could think of, for the itching

and being

> so sick. Remarkabley, finally, it was a dermatologist, not a

> gastroenterologist, despite having had a suggestive liver biopsy, who finally

referred me to

> the gastro who did another biopsy and came up with definite PBC, in addition

> to AIH. For those of us older, we had some long, hard roads before

> diagnosis, but rest assured we are all still kicking, maybe not high, but

waking up

> alive. Believe it or not, it is a blessing to be diagnosed at a younger age.

>

> I wish everyone well, it can be a rocky journey, but we have each other, and

> that's something that never happened in the previous generation. We are each

> other's strength and resources. Never forget how lucky we are to have each

> other.

>

>

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You made his day and isn't it ironic how God places people in our paths ??? The

timing was something you probably will never know in his heart but maybe it was

the message he needed to hear to go through life a little longer for the

recognition you gave at that moment. Life is funny ~~~

Dee

Re: [ ] Re: doctors

Yes, please know that you do have support here. Obviously, we're not as much

of a comfort as a warm shoulder next to you would be, but we can be of some

help.

Oddly, it was during a routine annual visit to an allergist that my liver

problem was first noticed -- because of the rashless itch. That was seven years

ago. Last week, in the post office in a town two hours from that city, a

man made some polite comment like " nice weather today. " I recognized him

immediately as that doctor, the allergist. Seven years ago he saw what I was

going to be dealing with and made sure I was going to see the right doctors

immediately.

He even called me on his vacation to be certain that I'd been treated

appropriately, as he knew just what was wrong with me and how serious it could

be. He

didn't remember me, but I certainly remembered him!

I'd always wanted the chance to tell him thank you, but for months I wasn't

well enough to even manage a phone call, and then I found he'd retired. So, I

finally could look at him face to face, reasonably healthy again, and say

thanks. I was so glad to be able to do that.

Harper

In a message dated 12/8/07 2:43:41 PM, majulipeoplepc (DOT) com writes:

>

> Kathy, I too want to know the results of your visit to Dr. Little. Dee, my

> heart goes out to you more than I can say, my sister committed suicide in 1984

> and I've never gotten over it.

>

> I also want to say that I had one of those long journeys, visiting

> dermatologists, rheumatologists, every doc I could think of, for the itching

and being

> so sick. Remarkabley, finally, it was a dermatologist, not a

> gastroenterologist, despite having had a suggestive liver biopsy, who finally

referred me to

> the gastro who did another biopsy and came up with definite PBC, in addition

> to AIH. For those of us older, we had some long, hard roads before

> diagnosis, but rest assured we are all still kicking, maybe not high, but

waking up

> alive. Believe it or not, it is a blessing to be diagnosed at a younger age.

>

> I wish everyone well, it can be a rocky journey, but we have each other, and

> that's something that never happened in the previous generation. We are each

> other's strength and resources. Never forget how lucky we are to have each

> other.

>

>

>

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To answer your question Lilian, I'm afraid that most of the GP's I've met up with in my long life leave a lot to be desired. I am often dismayed at their lack of education and their ignorance (in more ways than one) and know that 'GP' means just that - 'general practitioner' - like ''Jack of all trades and master of none'. The bright boys go on to a higher level. Sorry if this sound so cynical, but I have had a fair share of bad experiences with the GP's I have known - and from listening to the appalling stories from members of this forum and other forums.

Luv - Sheila

Are we all presuming that our doctor was in the top 10 of his class and passed with very high marks and therefore it must only be lack of eduction that makes him say the things he does.

Could be, combined with a certain lack of education a lot of the doctors might have only scraped through their exams and came nowhere near the top 10.

Lilian

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I cannot help remembering, several years ago, a friend's son managed to scrape through his exam to get to medical school. He openly admitted that the only reason he wanted to be a doctor was because of the money. He was not exceptionally bright nor was he that keen.

If he didn't drop out or fail his exams he could be one our doctors.

Lilian

I'm afraid that most of the GP's I've met up with in my long life leave a lot to be desired. I am often dismayed at their lack of education and their ignorance