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I just found out its a metabolite not an amino acid....sorry. JL

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> ne Kieffer wrote:

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> > Does anyone know what in the heck the amino acid Sarcosine does in our

> > bodies? What is it for? I have looked every place on the web to find

> > info on this and I can't find anything. I just got an amino acid test

> > done and Sarcosine came back way out of range. JL

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> I have two books on amino acids (not medical ref books, but the kind you buy

in a health food store) and Sarcosine isn't even mentioned in either one of

them. I have never heard of it....

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> Does anyone know what in the heck the amino acid Sarcosine does in our

> bodies? What is it for? I have looked every place on the web to find

> info on this and I can't find anything. I just got an amino acid test

> done and Sarcosine came back way out of range. JL

I have two books on amino acids (not medical ref books, but the kind you buy in

a health food store) and Sarcosine isn't even mentioned in either one of them.

I have never heard of it....

Marcia

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>From: " Luiz Moreira " <gingerjoe@...>

>Reply-bowel cleanseonelist

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>Subject: Amino Acids

>Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:16:30 -0300

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>From: " Luiz Moreira " <gingerjoe@...>

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>I still want to see the data showing otherwise.

>From what you have been saying in this list so far it looks like you are

>only good in offending and threatening people.

>Show us your educational background by showing more that just plain anger.

>One more question : Do you have a liver problem ???

>It looks like you do.

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> Luiz

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NO.I DONT HAVE LIVER PROBLEMS.

I HAVE PROBLEMS DEALING WITH MORONS WHO ENJOYS MISLEADING

PEOPLE!AND IT LOOKS AS IF I HAVE ANOTHER MORON TO CONTEND WITH!

Bill

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Lipoic acid is one of the supplements my husband is on for pancreatic/liver

cancer.

Glad to hear the many protective qualities. We have much faith he will win

the battle.

My daughter (age 38) was cured of hypothyroidism by L-Tyrosine (amino acid)

500 mg per day and 1 tsp per day of Flax Seed Oil + quality multi-vitamin. Th

yroid went from a 9 (abnormal) reading to a 4.6. (Normal range is between 3

and 6.)

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Immunocal address all amino acids most important and including these

ones and cystine that addresses glutathione. It is amazing what can

happen to the body when given proper nurishment. I am happy for your

daughter and pray for your husband that he too can lick this. They are

fortunate to have you in their cornner.

God Bless and keep you in your fight

Debbie

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> Lipoic acid is one of the supplements my husband is on for

pancreatic/liver

> cancer.

> Glad to hear the many protective qualities. We have much faith he

will win

> the battle.

>

> My daughter (age 38) was cured of hypothyroidism by L-Tyrosine (amino

acid)

> 500 mg per day and 1 tsp per day of Flax Seed Oil + quality

multi-vitamin. Th

> yroid went from a 9 (abnormal) reading to a 4.6. (Normal range is

between 3

> and 6.)

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Thanks for the encouragement - I've heard a lot about Immunocal. Might give

it a try. He is on so many nutrients now. I'd like to cut them down and use

something more efficient.

Carol

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If I can be of any assistance with immunocal let me know.

Lloyd SeawrightAt 12:20 PM 10/25/99 EDT, you wrote:

>Thanks for the encouragement - I've heard a lot about Immunocal. Might

give

>it a try. He is on so many nutrients now. I'd like to cut them down and

use

>something more efficient.

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Deb,

Amino acids are one of the tests I am having done for mitochondrial disease

testing at the Cleveland Clinic so when I get my results back I will post them.

best, Beth

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hi all

, the only amino acids suppliments that i tolerated eight years into the

illness has been klaire labs (amino acid multiple complex, all very low

dosage : over dozen amino acids in formula.)

If you buy vitamins from health care professsional : vital brand.

somish

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I began taking " malic relief formula " from biochem (main ingredients malic

acid and magnesium malate) a year ago and my fibro pain got much better.

About 70% I'd guess. I didnt see any effects for the first month; but then

once the improvement started it continued for 8 months until it finally fixed

the defeciency. -joey

>>>>Tried taking a couple of different amino acids, GABA, L-Glutamine, and

Taurine. Read from the pain and stress center, that they are good

nuerotransmitters(promote calmness) They had a pretty strange effect,

vision cleared up a little, memory got worse, but the worse was I

couldn't sleep. I was also taking malic acid, which is supposed to help

with muscle energy. Anybody have any ideas on this?

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green1585@... wrote:

> Tried taking a couple of different amino acids, GABA, L-Glutamine, and

>

> Taurine. Read from the pain and stress center, that they are good

> nuerotransmitters(promote calmness) They had a pretty strange effect,

>

> vision cleared up a little, memory got worse, but the worse was I

> couldn't sleep. I was also taking malic acid, which is supposed to

> help

> with muscle energy. Anybody have any ideas on this?

>

I have had extreme insomnia, jitters, agitation, and tension from taking

Taurine. I seem to be able to handle the amount mixed in with the

magnesium and malic acid in the " Pro-Energy " formula from

www.immune-support.com (aka Pro Health), but can't take it alone or in

" alertness formulas " . GABA also sometimes has this effect on me.

Remember that PWCs don't handle stress well because our bodies react

differently to stress than healthy people do. Healthy people (and those

who are depressed) tend to overmanufacture cortisol; we tend to

undermanufacture it. For this reason, I would think hard about

following any recommendations for stress that were not specifically

targetted at us PWCs. Recently, I have had good results taking Thorne's

Cortrex product, which is an adrenal cortex product that includes some

other organ extracts and I think some licorice; it definitely reduced

the level of tension and fatigue I was feeling as a result of family

stress.

BTW, I don't know whether magnesium and malic acid help with " muscle

energy " , but they certainly help keep down the fibromyalgia pain and

stiffness for me. I think the Co-Q10 has more effect on the energy

aspect, at least for me.

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In a message dated 6/4/00 2:22:12 AM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< Subject: amino acids

L-glutamine is stimulating. I can only take a small amount (maybe 100

to 200 mg) at a time. And I take it in the morning so it doesn't affect

sleep. Good luck, jo >>

Jo, are you sure you don't have L-glut mixed up with something else? Dr.

Salvato

recommends 10-20 grams per day, and I have seen it recommended elsewhere

in those amounts for PWCs. I take 5 grams per day w/ no problems.

Mike

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Hello all -

I tried GABA on my doc's recommendation for

inflammation and pain from my lower back injury. I

had significant cognitive effects which she believes

were caused by the GABA so I discontinued. I take

L-Glutamine and L-carnitine with no problems though.

Best, Jennie

--- green1585@... wrote:

> Tried taking a couple of different amino acids,

> GABA, L-Glutamine, and

> Taurine. Read from the pain and stress center, that

> they are good

> nuerotransmitters(promote calmness) They had a

> pretty strange effect,

> vision cleared up a little, memory got worse, but

> the worse was I

> couldn't sleep. I was also taking malic acid, which

> is supposed to help

> with muscle energy. Anybody have any ideas on this?

>

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You should always take amino acids in a balanced form, which

is one of the many reasons why taking them in a natural,

whole food source is best.

Re: amino acids

> what green juices are a good source of glutamine.

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Dennis,

The Rejuvenation list does indeed recommend amino stacking. I won't. A

secretagogue causes secretion. Try lurking for a week. Enough will go by

to pick it up slowly.

jim :)

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> the Rejuv list info mentioned amino acids as

> secretagogues. which aminos and what are

> secretagogues? is it a generic term for anti

> aging?

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> Dennis

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Hi! Phil

Any chance you could post your numbers and the acceptable level numbers?

Merle

philcome@... wrote:

> My amino acid test from Doctor's Data showed a number of

> defenciencies( I can't spell right now).They are now calculating my

> needs. I need to order the amino acids formulated for my profile.

> Where do others get their's made?

>

> Phil

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Phil,

I'll reply since no one did before. I had the Doctor's Data test several

years ago and the results have been helpful for me. However, I never took

their specified formula. for one thing, due to absorption problems, I needed

higher doses to get results. I just used high quality health food store

brands.

Also, and this I guess does not apply to you but might help someone else,

several aminos showed high because I was low in B6 and its metabolites and

so I could not use the aminos I was getting in my diet. So, in my case, it

wasn't just the aminos I needed to supplement.

I hope this was helpful,

> Amino Acids

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> I looked for a reponse to my question about obtaining formulated amino

> acids but found no response so I'll try again. For those of you that

> have had an amino acid profile done where do you buy the formulation

> designed for your weight and specific amino acid needs?Doctor's Data

> will calculate what I need but they don't make the formulation nor

> reccomennd anyone to do so.

>

> Phil

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Phil,

If no one else helps you on this one, one idea I can think of, and I

know it is a lot of work, but also a lot cheaper, is to buy the

aminos in powder from BAC and mix up a big batch in the proportions

you need and then if you got a capsule machine, you could capsulate

your mixture.

Matt

> I looked for a reponse to my question about obtaining formulated

amino

> acids but found no response so I'll try again. For those of you that

> have had an amino acid profile done where do you buy the formulation

> designed for your weight and specific amino acid needs?Doctor's Data

> will calculate what I need but they don't make the formulation nor

> reccomennd anyone to do so.

>

> Phil

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Two excellent sources of all amino acids essential for humans are royal

jelly and pollen.

I buy fresh frozen royal jelly, propolis tincture, fresh pollen

(Willamette Valley brand) and honey from www.glorybee.com 1-800-456-7923.

Ask for their catalog when placing your first order. Their prices are

cheaper than anyone else I've found -- especially the fresh royal

jelly -- $33.95 for one kilo. Since it's perishable, it has to be shipped

overnight ($35) or 2

days ($17). I use two day delivery for royal jelly in all seasons except

summer. The rest I have shipped by UPS. The usual disclaimer applies -- I

have no financial interest -- just found them to be the best cheap source

for quality bee products.

Excerpt from: http://www.fao.org/docrep/w0076e/w0076e16.htm#6.3

The principal constituents of royal jelly are water, protein, sugars, lipids

and mineral salts. Although they occur with notable variations (Table 6.1)

the composition of royal jelly remains relatively constant when comparing

different colonies, bee races and time.

Water makes up about two thirds of fresh royal jelly, but by dry weight,

proteins and sugars are by far the largest fractions. Of the nitrogenous

substances, proteins average 73.9% and of the six major proteins (Otani et

al., 1985) four are glycoproteins (Takenaka, 1987). Free amino acids average

2.3% and peptides 0.16% (Takenaka, 1984) of the nitrogenous substances. All

amino acids essential for humans are present and a total of 29 amino acids

and derivatives have been identified, the most important being aspartic acid

and glutamic acid (Howe et al., 1985). The free amino acids are proline and

lysine (Takenaka, 1984 and 1987). A number of enzymes are also present

including glucose oxidase (Nye et al., 1973) phosphatase and cholinesterase

(Ammon and Zoch, 1957). An insulin-like substance has been identified by

Kramer et al. (1977 and 1982).

Excerpt from: http://www.fao.org/docrep/w0076e/w0076e10.htm#3.2

Since thecomposition of pollen changes from species to species, variation in

absolute

amounts of the different compounds can be very high. Protein contents of

above 40% have been reported, but the typical range is 7.5 to 35%: typical

sugar content ranges from 15 to 50% and starch content is very high (up to

18%) in some wind-pollinated grasses (Schmidt and Buchmann, 1992). The

major components are proteins and amino acid, lipids (fats, oils or their

derivatives) and sugars. The minor components are more diverse (Table 3.2).

All amino acids essential to humans (phenylalanine, leucine, valine,

isoleucine, arginine, histidine, lysine, methionine, threonine and

tryptophan) can be found in pollen and most others as well, with proline

being the most abundant.

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Depends. Certain amino acids are safer alone than others. Leucine is one

you should never take alone, whereas Taurine is usually safe. Still, it is

best to take a broad spectrum amino acid complex like My Aminoplex -

www.kt-solutions.com if taking single amino acid supplements. You should

also make sure that you are taking adequate co-factors to make sure you

don't compound any metabolic blockades.

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.cellmatewellness.com

[ ] amino Acids

> I have a question about taking specific amino acids. If you are taking

one

> or two specific ones should you also be supplementing with a multi amino

acid?

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> Thanks

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Hi ,

It is assumed that you are eating proteins whether animal or vegetal or both. If

you assure good stomach acidity and enzyme production, you

should have a good pool of available aminos in your tissues and blood stream.

Under this premise, you can supplement with individual

aminos, without having to take a multiamino pill.

A more important question, however, has to do with the nature of the aminos you

want to take and their effect as precursors of other

aminos, neurotransmitters, etc.

warm regards

FCR

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> I have a question about taking specific amino acids. If you are taking one

> or two specific ones should you also be supplementing with a multi amino acid?

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