Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Hello Adrienne, I started with AdreCor, added TravaCor and I felt better with more engery. After adding ExcitaPlus, I could not stand myself with mood swings and body shakes. My doctor requested that I take the capsule apart and just take a pinch each day. I stayed on the protocol for about 6 weeks. Decided to stop everything get myself back on even ground and have just started again by only adding AdreCor for a few weeks before moving forward. A friend with CFS/Lyme/FM stayed on neuroscience products for one year and did not find improvements. Her doctor is working on the board of directors and was well informed with these products. I have a great infectious disease doctor and I have learned to listen to her. Will keep you posted. Wishing you better health, -------------------------------- It was your post I was looking for, Theresa, and that lab is the one my NP is using to test me! Small world. I certainly will be interested to hear about your progress, since I am headed down the same path after you. Were you able to notice anything different besides the eye problems? How far did you get w. it before you quit? Peace, Adrienne Amino acids Hello Adrienne,- I started an amino acid protocol with NeuroScience www.neuroscienceinc.com in March. After, developing some problems with my eyes, I decided to stop until that problem cleared. It is so difficult to tell if the disease is the cause or the amino acids. Anyway, I restarted the protocol yesterday and will keep you posted. Wishing you better health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 I forgot to mention a good book on the topic to read is Edge Effect. Just told his supplements are wimpy and to ignore his high-carb diet advice. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Katrine Read Braverman's The Edge Effect and Healing Nutrients Within. He offers specific blends of aminos with other necessary cofactors on his website, I've benefited. _www.pathmed.com_ (http://www.pathmed.com) ALL amino acids can have side effects and for long term use, like B vitamins, should be taken along with the full complex of free aminos. DLPA should not be taken by someone with a history of melanoma or other cancers. For custom blends/recommendation, you really need to see a doc and have prescriptive aminos done based on organic acid tests although the books above can start you onto a path. mjh " The Basil Book " _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/) Is there such a thing as a source for custom blend of certain ones? ANd/Or is it better to find a product with lots/all of them, that incorporate what you are looking to supplement? Do some of you find certain Amino Acids contraindicated for your case, or not? For me, the questions would be about A) unfamiliar ones, untested by me, but known to have some precautions. Arginine caution, possibly mitigated by right amount of Lysine C) Tyrosine precaution due to history of Melanoma and it escalating that kind of tumor (maybe others, too?) Thanks, Katrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 DLPA should not be taken by someone with a history of melanoma or other cancers. Hmmm. I had a melanoma removed a short while after I got really sick, in early '80's. And have been taking DLPA all this time. Hmm. Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 > > does anyone know who makes custom amino acids > go to www.metabolicmaintenance.com Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I honestly couldnt advice on the amino acids(not real imformative on them), but I can say that even all good supplements should be used with caution! We never use any on a daily basis unless treating for a specific short term issue! Even things such as magnesium, calcium, vitamin C, etc can have mild to severe side affects if over done. Then also considering the supplements that dont excrete... vit A, D, etc. Hopefully someone can advice you on the amino's. I would consider the advice on the healing book and use as caution! Jennie<>< > > In looking into mycotoxins(fungus, antibiotics, mold etc.) ie. auto > > immune issues, causing cancer, neuro affects ect. There seems to be > > possible links with seizures also. Any one have info on this! In > > treating our son for viral and gi healing(no longer has seizures), part > > of this treatment would have fungal/yeast(mycotoxins) treatment and it > > sure got me wondering also about the link of seizures/mycotoxins also. > > The same supplements we used to kill viral/bacteria issues is also a > > fungal/yeast treatment! In his gi healing his seizures have stopped, > > but with him having occaissional gi issues still and no seizures Im > > leaning more towards the seizures was viral/mycotoxin issue. Although > > the grand mals would trigger when his gi motility was severe, im still > > leaning towards the other(toxin affect)! Garlic would be at the top of > > our list on this, OLE, aloe juice, etc. Jennie<>< > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, > > Kopera > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it > > now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 I do know if you are taking a natural substance it will utilize what you need and expel what you don't. Thats the blessing on herbs. Jennie <mykidshisgift@...> wrote: I honestly couldnt advice on the amino acids(not real imformative on them), but I can say that even all good supplements should be used with caution! We never use any on a daily basis unless treating for a specific short term issue! Even things such as magnesium, calcium, vitamin C, etc can have mild to severe side affects if over done. Then also considering the supplements that dont excrete... vit A, D, etc. Hopefully someone can advice you on the amino's. I would consider the advice on the healing book and use as caution! Jennie<>< > > In looking into mycotoxins(fungus, antibiotics, mold etc.) ie. auto > > immune issues, causing cancer, neuro affects ect. There seems to be > > possible links with seizures also. Any one have info on this! In > > treating our son for viral and gi healing(no longer has seizures), part > > of this treatment would have fungal/yeast(mycotoxins) treatment and it > > sure got me wondering also about the link of seizures/mycotoxins also. > > The same supplements we used to kill viral/bacteria issues is also a > > fungal/yeast treatment! In his gi healing his seizures have stopped, > > but with him having occaissional gi issues still and no seizures Im > > leaning more towards the seizures was viral/mycotoxin issue. Although > > the grand mals would trigger when his gi motility was severe, im still > > leaning towards the other(toxin affect)! Garlic would be at the top of > > our list on this, OLE, aloe juice, etc. Jennie<>< > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, > > Kopera > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it > > now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Jane, whether you'd take amino acids with your meals depends on your purpose and which amino acids. For general health, you'd take a few that might be in short supply in your diet; many people in this group take undenatured whey powder to get the specific bonded amino acids in it that make their master antioxidant level increase. Some amino acids aren't any good unless they are bonded to another amino acid. SomaLife gHP is an example of amino acids that you would NOT take with meals, so they can trigger your HGH to release. If you were more specific with your question I could be too with my answer Duncan > > Is it a good idea to take amino acids with your meals? > > > Jane T. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Jane, many amino acids require an acidic solution in order to dissolve, so yes, with a meal or with betaine HCl can be better for that. When you need them on an empty stomach, SomaLife gHP for example, taking them with only the betaine HCl or stirring them into orange juice will put them in solution. If those are free-form amino acids you listed, this one is toxic: > L-Cysteine 141.66 mg They are mainly NOT in free form in a product like whey but the label can mislead readers by listing the separate components rather than the glutathione-precursor proteins serum albumin, lactoferrin, beta- lactoglobulin, and alpha-lactalbumin. The cysteine in whey will be mainly in bonded form, and the glutamine would be mainly not free form but glutamic acid, and also in bonded form such as glutamylcysteine. There's more glutamate as well as more free-form l-cysteine in hydrolyzed whey than in filtered and ion- exchanged whey, so many people prefer the filtered products over the hydrolyzed. You can take the whey with a meal. Duncan > > > When you mentioned betaine HCL and apple cider vinegar was mentioned I was curious about amino acids. I think I feel a little better when I take them with a meal. I follow the protocol you've recommended although brown rice doesn't seem to do any harm and I occasionally eat oat meal. Activia yogurt, too, seems OK. I bought the Inulin from NOW and their whey. If I take it in small doses its not painfully gassy. These are the aminos: >  >  >                                                  Lactalbumine Hydrolysate > (provides the following amino acids) > L-Alanine              230.22 mg > L-Arginine            106.26 mg > L-Aspartic acid     442.71 mg > L-Cysteine            141.66 mg > L-Glutamic Acid    734.91 mg             L-Proline      274.5 mg       L-Tyrosene 128.4 mg > L-Glycine               84.12 mg             L-Serine       212.52 mg >  >  " essential amino acids " > L-Histidine              66.42 mg              L-Threonine  314.34 mg > L-Isoleucine           301.05 mg            L-Tryptophan  61.98 mg > L-Leucine              451.56 mg > L-Lysine                385.17 mg  > L-Methionine            88.5 mg > L-Phenylalanine     132.81 mg > > L-Valine                 265.62 mg              L-Ornithine Hydrochloride 81 mg >  > Jane T. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 In some Asian countries, Ajinomoto is MSG! There is one plant that contains all required amino acids and more, the name is Moringa Oleifera. Now researchers claim has potential cancer fighting nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hi ; The source of the amino acids doesn't matter and SomaLife Health uses non-GMO vegetarian sources in order to appeal to everyone. When your question was about amino acids generally I replied that we balance amino acids in our dietary intake and I suggested animal protein, particularly whey. Although animal proteins contain some of the right amino acids for HGH release, they must be purified to be used in a specific way to effect that release. I mentioned earlier that doctors who blended their own pure amino acids to try and match SomaLife gHP found their mix didn't work as well as SomaLife's and they had to roughly double the dose to max out HGH release. I think purity issues are probably behind the M.D.s failure with their blend; most meat-based amino acids are extracted by a process that naturally yields partially digested proteins and impure amino acids. The most common range of the impure stuff taken by body builders is 10-18 grams of specific HGH releasers per dose, while SomaLife does it with 5. This range was confirmed locally by a body builder friend who had been mixing his own for years; he now uses SomaLife gHP and says it works better and with less hassle. Those branched chain aminos mentioned in your post incidentally are not the crucial HGH releasers we're talking about for anti-aging but lean tissue maintainers that tend to nourish and also prevent wasting, which is a different approach that does not directly increase growth factors even in elderly clients. The groundbreaking study on releasing HGH with amino acids is called the Isidori study, and it's linked from my HGH therapy page: http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP all good, Duncan > > > > , all the amino acids are represented in eggs, meat and > > whey. > > > > If your question is on whether HGH is created in response to your own > > amino acid blend like it does with SomaLife, the M.D.s who mixed their > > own " SomaLife " did not get the result the commercial blend does. > > Because they were derived from eggs, meat and whey? What is SomaLife > derived from then? > > I was under the impression that if the amino acids were considered > " pure " without a lot of contaminants that results would be similar. > Here's a wee bit of product blurb from Swanson: > > * Pharmaceutical grade > > * From Japanese-based Ajinomoto > > * Crucial for muscle health > > Ajipure--Pure Aminos, naturally! With over 350 patents, Ajinomoto is > truly the world's innovator when it comes to amino acids. Produced > through fermentation using natural raw ingredients of non-animal > origin, AjiPure amino acids are 99 to 100% pure. Impurities in other > brands can be six times higher! AjiPure Branched Chain Amino Acids, > leucine, isoleucine and valine, play crucial roles in muscle growth > and recuperation. > > AjiPure amino acids stand for purity, efficacy and safety. Ajinomoto > is the leading supplier of amino acids for medicinal use, so you can > be sure to trust the best. " > > http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU453/ItemDetail? n=4294967194 > > -vanessa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 , containing all the amino acids is not the same as containing them in the right proportion for health. This is where extraction and concentration come in even when we have good food to start with. all good, Duncan > > In some Asian countries, Ajinomoto is MSG! > > There is one plant that contains all required amino acids and more, the name is Moringa Oleifera. Now researchers claim has potential cancer fighting nutrients. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Which amino acids are acid and which are base? I read that Arginine and Lysine are base. My boy is very acid (acid reflux, stomach distress helped by Alka Seltzer Gold, baking soda, pH strips fluctuate between acid and base, aggressive rage when acid). His last test was very low in Arginine & Lysine. Presumably supplementing both would be helpful since he is deficient and also to bring his body to a more neutral pH. I'm considering supplementing by giving 1 scoop of protein powder plus adding both Arginine and Lysine 2x/day. Anyone else tried this or similar? Best with foods or alone? Did it help with acid reflux or body acidity? Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 This really depends on the profile. Genova can get compounded AA supps that are profile specific, but if there are only a few key anomalies on testing this is probably not the best route as they are relatively expensive, however if the profile is more complex this might be a good bet.Ken From: Janet proctor <Proctja@...> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012, 14:53 Subject: amino acids Does anyone use/know of a good amino acid supplement that can boost up some low urine amino acid results I've just had for both ds and dd? Thanks in advance, Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Thanks Mandi but they put calcium carb. in it and she doesn't do well with calcium supps, ds's calcium is high so again restricted using it. Janet Autism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:36:15 -0400Subject: Re: amino acids www.gfcfshakes.co.uk In a message dated 21/03/2012 15:28:18 GMT Standard Time, Proctja@... writes: Thanks Ken, everything's low to be honest - across the board. My daughter is a really good eater and has protein several times a day and with snacks so it's a mal-absorption thing, her indicators show high on the malabsorption bars - she has plenty of enzymes to break down the food and acid to increase the stomach ph, so can't go any further there. I was thinkingof a protein drink but she can't have dairy and the hemp and pea protein ones are awful when i've tried them. Janet Autism Treatment From: drken.aitken@...Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:12:04 +0000Subject: Re: amino acids This really depends on the profile. Genova can get compounded AA supps that are profile specific, but if there are only a few key anomalies on testing this is probably not the best route as they are relatively expensive, however if the profile is more complex this might be a good bet. Ken From: Janet proctor <Proctja@...> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012, 14:53Subject: amino acids Does anyone use/know of a good amino acid supplement that can boost up some low urine amino acid results I've just had for both ds and dd? Thanks in advance, Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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