Adrenal Support

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In a message dated 2/2/00 2:28:31 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

angelfsh@... writes:

<< ,

I have adrenal failure and am on 20 mg of Cortef a day - are there vitamins

that

help the adrenals? I would like to wean off the Cortef!

Thank you

Lori >>

Hi Lori,

The supplements in the supplement list should help with any adrenal

problems. Pantothenic acid (B-5) is often listed in nutrition books

specifically for adrenals. However, make sure you don't take excessive

amounts and upset the B vitamin balance.

[Guest guest]

Terry,

What is the brand on your infrarey sauna.? Is it a HealthMate? I will be

buying one soon and am looking at all the brands at the moment.

My doctor who is an MD and also practice's homopathic recommended this

brand. Since I'm always going to consumers report for recommendations, I don't

think they can be of help in this area.

Bev

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, I'll look them up.... Beth

[ ] Adrenal support

Regarding low adrenal function, I ordered some drops Adrenal Aide from

Green Willow Tree for my partner. I can't say they helped, but she's very

bad off and nothing much helps.

Someone mentioned using an infrared sauna. We bought one from High Tech

Health--two person cost around $3,000. Trudy, my partner w/ lyme, hasn't

been able to use it much due to nausea and migraines which seem to be worse

after using it. I use it as often as I can and find it very relaxing and

energy boosting. They were a great company to deal with too.

Terry

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Wonderful! Glad you are feeling better. I've ordered some Cortef

too, but it hasn't arrived yet. Did you start with the 5mg 2x/day?

Or did you start with 1x/day? What times during the day are you

taking it? Do you think you will go up to the full 4x/day, or stay

whee you are? And last, where did you order it from. So far, I've

only found http://www.mastersmarketing.com as a source, would love to

know of another if there is one.

Thankyou for sharing this inspiring improvement, I can hardly wait to

get my hands on mine.

- K

> Hello group..I know I havent made much of a contribution here

> in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

> with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

> to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had

complete

> relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

> issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

> I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really

quite

> an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

> made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

> really good too!

> I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

>

> Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

> Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where did you order it from? Did you need a script?

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:Hello group..I know I havent made much of a

contribution here

in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had complete

relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really quite

an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

really good too!

I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

What kind of adrenal problems have you been having? Did the docs. find the

problems with blood work? I had cushings symdrome and I think I have problems

with my adrenals but my doc. says no the blook work is fine. I only have one

adrenal gland left. I think I'm having adrenal crisis, they can be life

threating. Please fill me in.

Thanks

Bev

Carol <bsl0619@...> wrote:

Where did you order it from? Did you need a script?

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:Hello group..I know I havent made much of a

contribution here

in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had complete

relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really quite

an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

really good too!

I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

.

[Guest guest]

This is great to hear that cortef is working for you! It has been a

miracle for me, especially with energy and mood. I think you will feel

wonderful on 20mg/day. Hertoghe MD advises taking DHEA with it.

Gracia

> Hello group..I know I havent made much of a contribution here

> in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

> with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

> to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had complete

> relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

> issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

> I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really quite

> an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

> made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

> really good too!

> I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

>

> Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

> Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you should understand that blood tests for adrenals will always be " fine " .

the tests are worthless.

Gracia

> Hi Carol,

> What kind of adrenal problems have you been having? Did the docs. find

the problems with blood work? I had cushings symdrome and I think I have

problems with my adrenals but my doc. says no the blook work is fine. I only

have one adrenal gland left. I think I'm having adrenal crisis, they can be

life threating. Please fill me in.

> Thanks

> Bev

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ...

So far I'm taking 5mgs twice a day. I take it about a half hour after

breakfast, and again a half hour after dinner. I don't feel like I will need

more than this...so far its working wonderfully!

I ordered from the masters web site, I'm not aware of the alternative ones

sorry..

wishing you success!

.

[Guest guest]

That is interesting to know...when I had my salivary cortisol tests done,

they were

all within the reference range, but clearly I was having trouble.

My doctor felt that I was just because of my symptoms..she was very surprised

that the tests were not indicative of it.

[Guest guest]

I only had salivary cortisol levels checked, and all came back fine as well.

But judging from my symptoms, my doctor suspected trouble two years ago.

I only got a little better with thyroid meds, and I really feel that this is

the

other piece of the puzzle for me.

I found out last year that I have hep C, and have had it for about 25 years.

I had my appendix removed when I was 13, and had a transfusion.

Many folks with chronic infection have adrenal fatigue to some degree, it

all makes perfect sense to me now.

Two years ago when my doc suspected adrenal problems, neither one of

us knew about the hep, or perhaps she would have been more dilligent in

getting

me some kind of help for it.

My youngest son tested possitive as well, and I need to be prepared for

all that he will go through if there is no cure in his future, so I am so glad

for the wonderful people I have found in this group... and I am happy to

be the guinea pig paving the way for him!

We don't know if we don't try!

Glad I finally tried...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Is the Cortef prescription medication?

thanks

Bev

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

Hello group..I know I havent made much of a contribution here

in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had complete

relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really quite

an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

really good too!

I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi !

Your inputs are very useful.Especially adrenal support and the meds for

it.I had a strong doubt.Answer me if the medicine belongs to steroid

group.Normally steroid medicines are strong enough to give extra ordinary

and isntant energy to individual at that time.

Please clarifiy me.

B.R.

Hi ...

>

> So far I'm taking 5mgs twice a day. I take it about a half hour

> after

> breakfast, and again a half hour after dinner. I don't feel like I will

> need

> more than this...so far its working wonderfully!

> I ordered from the masters web site, I'm not aware of the alternative ones

> sorry..

>

> wishing you success!

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cortef (hydrocortisone) is a steroid, same as made by the adrenal glands.

Low doses support adrenals, high doses suppress them. See Safe Uses of

Cortisol by Jefferies MD.

Gracia

> Hi !

>

> Your inputs are very useful.Especially adrenal support and the meds for

> it.I had a strong doubt.Answer me if the medicine belongs to steroid

> group.Normally steroid medicines are strong enough to give extra ordinary

> and isntant energy to individual at that time.

>

> Please clarifiy me.

>

> B.R.

>

>

[Guest guest]

your son has hep c too. Did he get it from you?

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

I only had salivary cortisol levels checked, and all came back fine as well.

But judging from my symptoms, my doctor suspected trouble two years ago.

I only got a little better with thyroid meds, and I really feel that this is

the

other piece of the puzzle for me.

I found out last year that I have hep C, and have had it for about 25 years.

I had my appendix removed when I was 13, and had a transfusion.

Many folks with chronic infection have adrenal fatigue to some degree, it

all makes perfect sense to me now.

Two years ago when my doc suspected adrenal problems, neither one of

us knew about the hep, or perhaps she would have been more dilligent in

getting

me some kind of help for it.

My youngest son tested possitive as well, and I need to be prepared for

all that he will go through if there is no cure in his future, so I am so glad

for the wonderful people I have found in this group... and I am happy to

be the guinea pig paving the way for him!

We don't know if we don't try!

Glad I finally tried...

[Guest guest]

Hi Gracia!

Thanks for your lightening answer.You have written in your posting today

that test on adrenal will show " normal " .Are taking cortef inspite of the

fact that your adrenal is " normal " as per the report?If so how much is

your dose?After how many days of dosage,you became " energetic " ?

BR

> Cortef (hydrocortisone) is a steroid, same as made by the adrenal glands.

> Low doses support adrenals, high doses suppress them. See Safe Uses of

> Cortisol by Jefferies MD.

> Gracia

>

>> Hi !

>>

>> Your inputs are very useful.Especially adrenal support and the meds for

>> it.I had a strong doubt.Answer me if the medicine belongs to steroid

>> group.Normally steroid medicines are strong enough to give extra

>> ordinary

>> and isntant energy to individual at that time.

>>

>> Please clarifiy me.

>>

>> B.R.

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had several adrenal tests. All blood tests were normal. Saliva was high

normal, high, high normal, high. 24 hr urine test from AAL lab showed ALL

adrenal and sex hormones low. So every test had a different result. Doc

was a great doc but still told me to use licorice for adrenals!!! Very

frustrating, so I ordered cortef from http://www.mastersmarketing.com in

the UK and tried it on my own. I had to figure out the dosing for myself,

finally found what Jefferies recommends. When I next saw the doc I said I

am trying cortef, he asked does it work? I said YES it works great, and he

was fine with that. I have been on it for 2 years now. I noticed good

effects right away, certainly within a week.

Gracia

> Hi Gracia!

>

> Thanks for your lightening answer.You have written in your posting today

> that test on adrenal will show " normal " .Are taking cortef inspite of the

> fact that your adrenal is " normal " as per the report?If so how much is

> your dose?After how many days of dosage,you became " energetic " ?

>

> BR

>

> > Cortef (hydrocortisone) is a steroid, same as made by the adrenal

glands.

> > Low doses support adrenals, high doses suppress them. See Safe Uses of

> > Cortisol by Jefferies MD.

> > Gracia

> >

> >> Hi !

> >>

> >> Your inputs are very useful.Especially adrenal support and the meds for

> >> it.I had a strong doubt.Answer me if the medicine belongs to steroid

> >> group.Normally steroid medicines are strong enough to give extra

> >> ordinary

> >> and isntant energy to individual at that time.

> >>

> >> Please clarifiy me.

> >>

> >> B.R.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Gracia!

Thanks for your detailed answer.I am 55 years old and suffering from

Hypothyroid for the past 6 motnhs.My main problem is depression,gastric

problem and dizziness after food.My vertigo problem is the main problem

due to which I feel totally depressed.My endo says it is due cerivical

spondylysis.

Suggest me if cartef can overcome all my deficiencies at the age of

55.What should be my dose.Have I to consult any doc for this purpose.What

are the tests you suggest me to take.

Give me feed back.

BR

> I had several adrenal tests. All blood tests were normal. Saliva was

> high

> normal, high, high normal, high. 24 hr urine test from AAL lab showed

> ALL

> adrenal and sex hormones low. So every test had a different result.

> Doc

> was a great doc but still told me to use licorice for adrenals!!! Very

> frustrating, so I ordered cortef from http://www.mastersmarketing.com in

> the UK and tried it on my own. I had to figure out the dosing for

> myself,

> finally found what Jefferies recommends. When I next saw the doc I said

> I

> am trying cortef, he asked does it work? I said YES it works great, and

> he

> was fine with that. I have been on it for 2 years now. I noticed good

> effects right away, certainly within a week.

> Gracia

>

>> Hi Gracia!

>>

>> Thanks for your lightening answer.You have written in your posting today

>> that test on adrenal will show " normal " .Are taking cortef inspite of the

>> fact that your adrenal is " normal " as per the report?If so how much is

>> your dose?After how many days of dosage,you became " energetic " ?

>>

>> BR

>>

>> > Cortef (hydrocortisone) is a steroid, same as made by the adrenal

> glands.

>> > Low doses support adrenals, high doses suppress them. See Safe Uses

>> of

>> > Cortisol by Jefferies MD.

>> > Gracia

>> >

>> >> Hi !

>> >>

>> >> Your inputs are very useful.Especially adrenal support and the meds

>> for

>> >> it.I had a strong doubt.Answer me if the medicine belongs to steroid

>> >> group.Normally steroid medicines are strong enough to give extra

>> >> ordinary

>> >> and isntant energy to individual at that time.

>> >>

>> >> Please clarifiy me.

>> >>

>> >> B.R.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

LOL I am 57.

First I am not sure if you are getting ENOUGH thyroid meds, also I take

Armour thyroid b/c it has other hormones in it. If you are not feeling

well then you might need more thyroid meds or one that contains T3 hormone

as well. Is it true that Indian docs use only T4 meds? Armour is

dessicated pig thyroid. You need to treat your symptoms and not go by

testing testing testing. TSH over 2 is too high. I really cannot recommend

the adrenal tests.

Once you are sure you are getting the right thyroid meds, and you still

don't feel well, then cortef would be useful to try. have you also tried

iodine?

Gracia

> Hi Gracia!

>

> Thanks for your detailed answer.I am 55 years old and suffering from

> Hypothyroid for the past 6 motnhs.My main problem is depression,gastric

> problem and dizziness after food.My vertigo problem is the main problem

> due to which I feel totally depressed.My endo says it is due cerivical

> spondylysis.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gracia!

You are right!Indian doctors don't prescribe meds other than T4.We have

never heard of Armour.I have not tried iodine thro'allopathy

medicines.Here we have got alternate medinices like

Homoeopathy,naturopathy,Ayurvedic.I know the medicines even.Only think is

I have not tried them.

Naturopathy medicine is Black thulasi(Indian

herb!)homoeopathy:Iodum.Siddha(Indian medicine): paaval!

The only solution for me is to increase from 50 mgs to 75 mgs at

present.My last month TSH was 2.7 as you know.Please advise me whether to

take 75 mgs right now without any more testing.

What will happen if my TSH is already low(below 2.0) and I take 75 mgs of

T4.Any negative effect?

Answer me now.

BR.

> LOL I am 57.

> First I am not sure if you are getting ENOUGH thyroid meds, also I take

> Armour thyroid b/c it has other hormones in it. If you are not feeling

> well then you might need more thyroid meds or one that contains T3 hormone

> as well. Is it true that Indian docs use only T4 meds? Armour is

> dessicated pig thyroid. You need to treat your symptoms and not go by

> testing testing testing. TSH over 2 is too high. I really cannot

> recommend

> the adrenal tests.

> Once you are sure you are getting the right thyroid meds, and you still

> don't feel well, then cortef would be useful to try. have you also tried

> iodine?

> Gracia

>

>> Hi Gracia!

>>

>> Thanks for your detailed answer.I am 55 years old and suffering from

>> Hypothyroid for the past 6 motnhs.My main problem is depression,gastric

>> problem and dizziness after food.My vertigo problem is the main problem

>> due to which I feel totally depressed.My endo says it is due cerivical

>> spondylysis.

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have used ayurvedic medicine and found it to be very useful. I am a big

fan of iodine and also read about Ayurvedic therapies from Dr. Deepak

Chopra, I adore him. Yes I am sure you could increase dose without testing.

I think the dose you are on is quite low. Ask your doc to do a FREE T3 test

but maybe he won't know about that.

Gracia

> Gracia!

>

> You are right!Indian doctors don't prescribe meds other than T4.We have

> never heard of Armour.I have not tried iodine thro'allopathy

> medicines.Here we have got alternate medinices like

> Homoeopathy,naturopathy,Ayurvedic.I know the medicines even.Only think is

> I have not tried them.

>

> Naturopathy medicine is Black thulasi(Indian

> herb!)homoeopathy:Iodum.Siddha(Indian medicine): paaval!

>

> The only solution for me is to increase from 50 mgs to 75 mgs at

> present.My last month TSH was 2.7 as you know.Please advise me whether to

> take 75 mgs right now without any more testing.

>

> What will happen if my TSH is already low(below 2.0) and I take 75 mgs of

> T4.Any negative effect?

>

> Answer me now.

>

> BR.

>

[Guest guest]

Gracia!

It is encouraging to see that you have used ayur vedic medicines.I will

be consulting one ayurvedic doctor on thursday for both spondylis and

hypo.

Did you get relief for your hypo thyroid thro' ayurvedic medicine?were

taking the ayurvedic medicine along with allopathy?

I will be doing T3,T4 & TSH testing of my own thro' a lab and get result

very shortly.

BR

> I have used ayurvedic medicine and found it to be very useful. I am a

> big

> fan of iodine and also read about Ayurvedic therapies from Dr. Deepak

> Chopra, I adore him. Yes I am sure you could increase dose without

> testing.

> I think the dose you are on is quite low. Ask your doc to do a FREE T3

> test

> but maybe he won't know about that.

> Gracia

>

>> Gracia!

>>

>> You are right!Indian doctors don't prescribe meds other than T4.We have

>> never heard of Armour.I have not tried iodine thro'allopathy

>> medicines.Here we have got alternate medinices like

>> Homoeopathy,naturopathy,Ayurvedic.I know the medicines even.Only think

>> is

>> I have not tried them.

>>

>> Naturopathy medicine is Black thulasi(Indian

>> herb!)homoeopathy:Iodum.Siddha(Indian medicine): paaval!

>>

>> The only solution for me is to increase from 50 mgs to 75 mgs at

>> present.My last month TSH was 2.7 as you know.Please advise me whether

>> to

>> take 75 mgs right now without any more testing.

>>

>> What will happen if my TSH is already low(below 2.0) and I take 75 mgs

>> of

>> T4.Any negative effect?

>>

>> Answer me now.

>>

>> BR.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

be sure to test FREEs, what is available to cells. Free T3 and FREE T4 are

the most important tests. I don't have any ayurvedic meds now. Got relief

from hypo with Armour and cortef.

Good luck

Gracia

> Gracia!

>

> It is encouraging to see that you have used ayur vedic medicines.I will

> be consulting one ayurvedic doctor on thursday for both spondylis and

> hypo.

>

> Did you get relief for your hypo thyroid thro' ayurvedic medicine?were

> taking the ayurvedic medicine along with allopathy?

>

> I will be doing T3,T4 & TSH testing of my own thro' a lab and get result

> very shortly.

>

> BR

>

> > I have used ayurvedic medicine and found it to be very useful. I am a

> > big

> > fan of iodine and also read about Ayurvedic therapies from Dr. Deepak

> > Chopra, I adore him. Yes I am sure you could increase dose without

> > testing.

> > I think the dose you are on is quite low. Ask your doc to do a FREE T3

> > test

> > but maybe he won't know about that.

> > Gracia

> >

> >> Gracia!

> >>

> >> You are right!Indian doctors don't prescribe meds other than T4.We have

> >> never heard of Armour.I have not tried iodine thro'allopathy

> >> medicines.Here we have got alternate medinices like

> >> Homoeopathy,naturopathy,Ayurvedic.I know the medicines even.Only think

> >> is

> >> I have not tried them.

> >>

> >> Naturopathy medicine is Black thulasi(Indian

> >> herb!)homoeopathy:Iodum.Siddha(Indian medicine): paaval!

> >>

> >> The only solution for me is to increase from 50 mgs to 75 mgs at

> >> present.My last month TSH was 2.7 as you know.Please advise me whether

> >> to

> >> take 75 mgs right now without any more testing.

> >>

> >> What will happen if my TSH is already low(below 2.0) and I take 75 mgs

> >> of

> >> T4.Any negative effect?

> >>

> >> Answer me now.

> >>

> >> BR.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! Can't wait 'til mine arrives so I can try it too.

- K

> Hi ...

>

> So far I'm taking 5mgs twice a day. I take it about a half

hour after

> breakfast, and again a half hour after dinner. I don't feel like I

will need

> more than this...so far its working wonderfully!

> I ordered from the masters web site, I'm not aware of the

alternative ones

> sorry..

>

> wishing you success!

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anyone that takes steroid (Cortef) will feel better. Steroids mask

everything...just keep this in mind. If you have anything else wrong with

you...it will mask it. If you take this it's like taking adrenalyn for the

body...of course more energy will show up!

LaCretia

>

>Hi Gracia!

>

>Thanks for your lightening answer.You have written in your posting today

>that test on adrenal will show " normal " .Are taking cortef inspite of the

>fact that your adrenal is " normal " as per the report?If so how much is

>your dose?After how many days of dosage,you became " energetic " ?

>

>BR

>

> > Cortef (hydrocortisone) is a steroid, same as made by the adrenal

>glands.

> > Low doses support adrenals, high doses suppress them. See Safe Uses of

> > Cortisol by Jefferies MD.

> > Gracia

> >

> >> Hi !

> >>

> >> Your inputs are very useful.Especially adrenal support and the meds for

> >> it.I had a strong doubt.Answer me if the medicine belongs to steroid

> >> group.Normally steroid medicines are strong enough to give extra

> >> ordinary

> >> and isntant energy to individual at that time.

> >>

> >> Please clarifiy me.

> >>

> >> B.R.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >