Adrenal Support

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Hi Keri,

I am on both groups, although I do not read all posts on the adrenal group. Remember that basically you would only be getting 1 person's opinion on that group, and I believe that you should get as many peoples opinions as possible and not believe any one of them, but use the "facts", opinions and suggestions & then make up your own mind what you think is correct for you at this point in time. No one expert is correct in everything all the time.

Val

Sounds as if I may need to leave this site and spend more time on the adrenal site - any change I find very difficult. I have supposedly been supporting the adrenals for a year now but obviously not enough -makes me very sad. The thought of hydrocortisone scares me...

Have found Natural Thyroid Hormones Adrenal group. Is anyone familiar with this one?

luv keri

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> Don't you leave this group sweetheart. We are tons nicer than

that

> other group for adrenals and there's lots of knowledge here too.

Thank you - have unsubscribed to the other site, couldn't understand

a word.

> Take most of your NAE first thing and take the smaller amount in

the

> afternoon. Don't be in a hurry to up your thyroid meds if you are

> on any because you really have to take things slowly when you have

> adrenal problems.>

I was going to take 4 before 1 pm (NAE)so would you suggest 3 and 1

after 1 pm??

I have only done 5 days on the armour thyroid but it isn't agreeing

with me, even on 1/4 of one tablet.

Thanks Bella. Trouble is I want to be told what to do, not to have

to think as it hurts ...

Should be in bed now but just done another day's salivary cortisol

tests so becoming awake now.

luv keri

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> > > You don't have to leave this site Keri - I thought you were

> > actually gaining some hope from what you have read here and from

> the

> > responses you have received from other members.

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> I just wanted to encourage you. I've been at this now for over a

> year and when I first found the Adrenal group you mention I was

> completely overwhelmed to the point of tears. Not only do you feel

> ill I thought but on top of everything else you have to wade through

> heaps and heaps of information to even have a chance of getting

> better. The more I read the more I got confused. I thought I'd never

> get it. I really felt despairing and actually quite frightened as to

> what I was getting into.

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have you been able to lead a 'normal' life in all of this? I stopped

work a year ago and becoming more and more reclusive - i live on my

own too.

Keri x

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> Sounds as if I may need to leave this site and spend more time on the

> adrenal site

No please don't go; I'll worry about you.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

HI Keri

Your Armour will not work as we mentioned previously until your adrenals are up to scratch. Stop your Armour and concentrate on your adrenals and use 3 with your breakfast and 1 with your lunch. You don't take NAE after 1.00p.m. because you could be kept awake at night when you should be asleep, because of the extra adrenaline.

Other problems that might not be allowing the Armour to work is you may have Candida, (I think you are already aware of this) or you might have low ferritin, in which case, you would need to take iron supplement.

Luv - Sheila

> Don't you leave this group sweetheart. We are tons nicer than that > other group for adrenals and there's lots of knowledge here too. Thank you - have unsubscribed to the other site, couldn't understand a word.> Take most of your NAE first thing and take the smaller amount in the > afternoon. Don't be in a hurry to up your thyroid meds if you are > on any because you really have to take things slowly when you have > adrenal problems.> I was going to take 4 before 1 pm (NAE)so would you suggest 3 and 1 after 1 pm??I have only done 5 days on the armour thyroid but it isn't agreeing with me, even on 1/4 of one tablet.Thanks Bella. Trouble is I want to be told what to do, not to have to think as it hurts ...Should be in bed now but just done another day's salivary cortisol tests so becoming awake now.luv keri> > > > > >> > > You don't have to leave this site Keri - I thought you were > > actually gaining some hope from what you have read here and from > the > > responses you have received from other members. > >>

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[Guest guest]

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> Your Armour will not work as we mentioned previously until your

adrenals are up to scratch. Stop your Armour and concentrate on your

adrenals and use 3 with your breakfast and 1 with your lunch. You

don't take NAE after 1.00p.m. because you could be kept awake at

night when you should be asleep, because of the extra adrenaline.

Thanks Sheila. I will print out this message so I remember, 3 NAE

with breakfast and 1 with lunch.

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> Other problems that might not be allowing the Armour to work is

you may have Candida, (I think you are already aware of this) or you

might have low ferritin, in which case, you would need to take iron

supplement.

The stool sample last November said I was free of candida and I

think the consultant endo in February said my ferritin was ok (is

that their 'ok' or our 'ok'?).

I SO appreciate you all repeating stuff to me as it doesn't stay in

my head.

Re the NAE, I gather the actual hormones are present in the

glandulars, with Nutri Thyroid the glandulars there are 'hormone

free'. Is that your take?

Sheila, would the £6 info pack be helpful too?

Thanks so much to you all, you are life savers and stop me from

feeling completely round the bend.

luv keri

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> No please don't go; I'll worry about you.

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> Rosie

Thank you,thank you - you all care so much, it makes me cry - at last

people/friends who really listen to me.

luv keri

>

[Guest guest]

You would need to know the exact figure for your Ferritin result Keri. The reference range for women is around 20 to 200. To be OK, you need to be somewhere in the region of 70 to 90 or above. If your result is less than 30, that is extremely low and you need to boost it with extra iron. Try to find out where your result lay and let us know, so we can decide whether it is OK or not.

There is some hormone present in NAE but not in NT.

The Information Pack is now £7.00. It has much of the information that we have on our website, but it is easier to have lying around so you can dip into it as and when you wish. If you would like one, you need to send a cheque for this amount and make it payable to Sheila . My address is

Squirrel Cottage,

Ickornshaw

Cowling

Nr Keighley

BD22 0Dh

Yorkshire.

I will then pop one in the post for you, but don't forget to give me your address.

luv - Sheila

Sheila, would the £6 info pack be helpful too?Thanks so much to you all, you are life savers and stop me from feeling completely round the bend.luv keri> >

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> You would need to know the exact figure for your Ferritin result

Keri. The reference range for women is around 20 to 200. To be OK,

you need to be somewhere in the region of 70 to 90 or above. If your

result is less than 30, that is extremely low and you need to boost

it with extra iron. Try to find out where your result lay and let us

know, so we can decide whether it is OK or not.

>

thank you, I will see if I can get the hospital to release my

results from february.

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> The Information Pack is now £7.00. It has much of the information

that we have on our website, but it is easier to have lying around

so you can dip into it as and when you wish. If you would like one,

you need to send a cheque for this amount and make it payable to

Sheila . My address is

>

I will do this. Thank you. Feeling more motivated today now

started the NAE at larger dose than suggested by Budd back in

April 07. Maybe that's why it didn't work then

luve keri

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> have you been able to lead a 'normal' life in all of this? I

stopped

> work a year ago and becoming more and more reclusive - i live on

my

> own too.

Hello Keri

The honest answer is no, although I'm nearer to a normal life now

than

I have been for years. I was only diagnosed with hyptoT this time

last

year by Dr Peatfield but had suffered for many years with this and

that and been treated for depression, anxiety, migraines, vertigo,

allergies, pharyngitis, chronic sinusitis, the list just goes on and

on. Only now do I realise that it

was probably all thyroid/adrenal related. Pity the medics didn't.

Could have saved me a lot of heartache along the way.

Anyway, long story short - I started doing my own research and a

change of diet and supplements and a few other measures, especially

better stress management, helped me enormously. With hindsight I can

see what I was really doing was helping my adrenals, although I

didn't

even know I had a pair of them at that time!

Since found out about my thyroid being really low. And am now trying

to treat that. I haven't been able to work outside the home for

years.

I beat myself up about that. Felt guilty and inferior because of it.

Fortunately I've had windows of better health or at least gritty

determination that enabled me to work a little from home.

But I too spent many years as a recluse. Had agoraphobia. Felt too

bad

half the time to be botherd with company. Just couldn't hack it,

although I am by nature friendly and gregarious. In truth, I feel

that

this illness has robbed me of my life really.

I recall many instances when I pushed myself to do things with only

one aim - that I would feel " normal " and do what " normal " people do.

That made me feel part of the human race.

Sorry I've gone on a bit. Anyway, that was then. Now is now. I can't

help but regret all those wasted years but I can't change my past.

It

makes me angry and very sad but the best thing I can do is to change

my present and my future. And that's what I'm trying to do with the

help of this group and Dr Peatfield.

One day I AM going to be " normal " !

Best of luck with your journey too Keri.

x

[Guest guest]

Hi Keri,

It's good to hear that you are feeling more positive. Things might

not happen really fast, although sometimes it does but improvement

will come and you'll soon know what you are at with this illness.

Luv Bella

[Guest guest]

Hi Keri,

Ok is one thing, but to feel good you need to have it much better than ok - 70 to 90. You need to get a copy of this result.

Val

I think the consultant endo in February said my ferritin was ok (is that their 'ok' or our 'ok'?).

[Guest guest]

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> Ok is one thing, but to feel good you need to have it much better

than ok - 70 to 90. You need to get a copy of this result.

Hi Val, just got my hospital results from end January:

Ferritin 94.7 (range 10-291 ug/1)

Does that sound ok then?

luv Keri

[Guest guest]

That's a great result Keri - yet something else you can knock of your "needs to do" list.

luv - Sheila

> > Ok is one thing, but to feel good you need to have it much better than ok - 70 to 90. You need to get a copy of this result.Hi Val, just got my hospital results from end January:Ferritin 94.7 (range 10-291 ug/1)Does that sound ok then?luv Keri

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Yes, this is good.

Val

Ferritin 94.7 (range 10-291 ug/1)Does that sound ok then?luv Keri

[Guest guest]

Hey Keri

I am on both groups, actually I am a member of a few forums but I tend

towards this one mostly as they are so nice and friendly here, and the

info I get is so sensible. I am not saying the others are not helpful,

just feel more affinity with this one. So it isn't an absolute that

you can only be a member of one group on or any of the internet

it simply means that you have access to a great number of documents

that people post on the other sites as well as this one.

I am in a rut at the moment too. I missed the whole of last summer

waiting for an endo appointment which was totally useless when I got

it. I have now been virtually house bound for 2 years but I still have

hope. Mostly because I first read stop the thyroid madness and then

this site and realised that there are other methods of treatment for

me which I have not tried yet.

I know that agoraphobia that kicks in. I know the fears and panics.

Even at the worst, hold on because there is still hope Keri.

Research is therapeutic sometimes if you cannot see an end to your

suffering, I find spotting familiar things highly hopeful when I see

it is not just me.

Get better soon, hope I join you

lotsa luv

Dawn

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> I am in a rut at the moment too. I missed the whole of last summer

> waiting for an endo appointment which was totally useless when I got

> it. I have now been virtually house bound for 2 years but I still

have

> hope. Mostly because I first read stop the thyroid madness and then

> this site and realised that there are other methods of treatment for

> me which I have not tried yet.

Thanks Dawn. Are you from Whitby? I know I have to develop patience

but I get so excited when I see a new way forward that I want it

immediately. Sheila has reigned me in (in the nicest possible way)!

I am supporting these poor adrenals and will wait to see what Dr P has

to say end March.

Have just had a wonderful acupuncture session - feeling calm and

hopeful, although had a good cry but therapeutic I know.

luv keri

[Guest guest]

It's in the " Treatments " file, .

jackie

>

> I have not been able to find the adrenal support file. Can I get some

> direction? Thank you.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Arlene

Try www.yournutritionshop.co.uk . You could try Nutri Adrenal Extra. You start by taking one tablet with your breakfast for a couple of days, if if no adverse reaction, after a couple or three days, add another tablet with your lunch. After say 3 weeks, you can add another tablet but take this with your breakfast dose. If you are still not feeling the benefit you should be, you can add another tablet, and people say it is best to take that with your breakfast dose too. NEVER take them after 1.00p.m. because the tiny amount of adrenaline just might keep you awake.

Good luck.

Luv - Sheila

Adrenal support

Hi everyone, I want to start taking adrenal support and I know that nutri centre is a good place to start looking. What is it I need to buy?

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Hi,

One step at a time! Isocort is next.

Adrenal support

i will be doing the 24h saliva test tomorrow.

if it shows my adrenals are not working properly i understand i can take

NAE. But what if these tablets do not work. What else is there i can buy?

Also does anyone know how long it takes to get the saliva results back. i

will be posting on monday.

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[Guest guest]

Adrenal support is not only required if you take Armour, it is required if you take any form of thyroid hormone replacement, e.g. levothyroxine (T4) - Liothyronine (T3) or natural thyroid extract. Not everybody needs supplementation, many are fine, but thyroid hormone replacement does call on your adrenals to help it to be absorbed properly by the cells. You should answer the Adrenal questionnaire and see how you score. You can find this from the FILES section of this forum website. Scroll down until you come to the Adrenal Questionnaire. You should also read Dr Peatfield's paper on the thyroid/adrenal conneciton in our website www.tpa-uk.org.uk Click on Hypothyroidism in the Menu - then click on 'Associated Conditions' and then click on Adrenals and his paper is the one at the top of the page that opens.

IF you have low adrenal reserve (you can check this by having the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile) then we can discuss what supplements you might need then.

Luv - Sheila

> So - if Adrenal support is required with Armour, what do I take and > where do I get it from please?>

[Guest guest]

Shelia

I have already had the 24hr adrenal salivary tests and they show poor/compromised adrenals. You may have forgot me!

I now take NAE but am doubting it will do anything for me and may need something better

From: campaigner77 <sheilaturner@...>Subject: Re: adrenal supportthyroid treatment Date: Monday, 7 July, 2008, 9:30 AM

Adrenal support is not only required if you take Armour, it is required if you take any form of thyroid hormone replacement, e.g. levothyroxine (T4) - Liothyronine (T3) or natural thyroid extract. Not everybody needs supplementation, many are fine, but thyroid hormone replacement does call on your adrenals to help it to be absorbed properly by the cells. You should answer the Adrenal questionnaire and see how you score. You can find this from the FILES section of this forum website. Scroll down until you come to the Adrenal Questionnaire. You should also read Dr Peatfield's paper on the thyroid/adrenal conneciton in our website www.tpa-uk.org. uk Click on Hypothyroidism in the Menu - then click on 'Associated Conditions' and then click on Adrenals and his paper is the one at the top of the page that opens.

IF you have low adrenal reserve (you can check this by having the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile) then we can discuss what supplements you might need then.

Luv - Sheila

> So - if Adrenal support is required with Armour, what do I take and > where do I get it from please?>

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Hi , I would say if you need anything 'stronger' than the NAE then

you need someone supporting you with that. From what I can gather your

GP is not very helpful. I would suggest Dr P because your results were

quite bad and he specialises in thyroid and adrenals problems. Ruth x

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> Shelia

> I have already had the 24hr adrenal salivary tests and they show

poor/compromised adrenals. You may have forgot me!

> I now take NAE but am doubting it will do anything for me and may

need something better

>

>

[Guest guest]

Funny you should say that because Shelia has managed to get me an appointment with Dr P on 20th July at her house, I am so so pleased and am hoping I will now start getting somewhere, I think my problem now lies with my adrenals and hopefully when they are sorted I might start getting my life back!

From: lostgirl7784 <ruthmillward77@...>Subject: Re: adrenal supportthyroid treatment Date: Monday, 7 July, 2008, 4:13 PM

Hi , I would say if you need anything 'stronger' than the NAE then you need someone supporting you with that. From what I can gather your GP is not very helpful. I would suggest Dr P because your results were quite bad and he specialises in thyroid and adrenals problems. Ruth x>> Shelia> I have already had the 24hr adrenal salivary tests and they show poor/compromised adrenals. You may have forgot me!> I now take NAE but am doubting it will do anything for me and may need something better> >

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> So - if Adrenal support is required with Armour, what do I take and

> where do I get it from please?

Have you had an ASI done? That is the first port of call to determine

what level of adrenal support you need.

Mo

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