Guest guest Posted June 9, 2000 Report Share Posted June 9, 2000 Christy, what I have learned is that it 'can' be good for nuero lyme. Supposed to hepl clear the neuro toxins. My LLMD has a few people on it but isnt to sure of it yet. Pepi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Christy--- This is the treatment that is being done by Dr. Richie Shoemaker from Pokomoke City, MD. The visual acuity test he uses to determine if you have neurotoxins in you. If you test positive on the test, he believes that the Cholestyrimine (Questran) can be used to alieviate the symptoms...this applies to more than just lyme...sick building syndrome, CFDS, Pfesteria....if you test positive on the visual acuity test, he believes the symptoms can be relieved. I know this because I was one of the test subjects for his paper. I had one of the visual acutity contraptions in my home for about 5 months. My vision did improve along with dizziness, disorientation, mothion sickness, etc. It took 5 months of treatment for me to get that far...all his other test subjects improved in less than two months...however, I had probably the most severe case out of those tested...I had been undiagnosed for ten years!!!! If you want more info I will post...I think I posted some on this a while ago, but cannot remember exactly when (lyme brain...it didn;t change that!). Hope this answers some of your questions Christy. Rhonna Ritz3131@... wrote: > <A HREF= " http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ " >Click here: VCS Test Center</A> > Hi. I called someone today to find out about cholestyroime treatment for > lyme and was given this web site. I was told there is a whole protocol one > goes on. Does anyone know about this? > > Thanks a lot, > > Christy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Go to Expedia.com to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, > $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's. Or win 2 roundtrip > tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. Click here for a chance win. > 1/5295/8/_/484634/_/960602132/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Many thanks to our founder and friend, Marta McCoy, for making what it is today. > > Easy Reference: > Send a blank email message to: > > -Subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email > -Unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list > -Digestegroups - Switch your subscription to a digest format > -Normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normal > > Please send messages not related to Lyme disease to -Offtopicegroups > > Archives can be accessed at lyme-aid > > Please visit the chat room at chat/lyme-aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Rhonna, Can you tell me more about these vision acuity tests? Do they have an official name? My roommate manages an Optometric office and we both found the idea of using an eye test to determine neurotoxins fascinating. Anything that you can provide about this will be much appreciated. Robynn Re: [ ] choletryromine/chronicneurotoxins.com Christy--- This is the treatment that is being done by Dr. Richie Shoemaker from Pokomoke City, MD. The visual acuity test he uses to determine if you have neurotoxins in you. If you test positive on the test, he believes that the Cholestyrimine (Questran) can be used to alieviate the symptoms...this applies to more than just lyme...sick building syndrome, CFDS, Pfesteria....if you test positive on the visual acuity test, he believes the symptoms can be relieved. I know this because I was one of the test subjects for his paper. I had one of the visual acutity contraptions in my home for about 5 months. My vision did improve along with dizziness, disorientation, mothion sickness, etc. It took 5 months of treatment for me to get that far...all his other test subjects improved in less than two months...however, I had probably the most severe case out of those tested...I had been undiagnosed for ten years!!!! If you want more info I will post...I think I posted some on this a while ago, but cannot remember exactly when (lyme brain...it didn;t change that!). Hope this answers some of your questions Christy. Rhonna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2000 Report Share Posted June 13, 2000 Robynn-- The visual contrast sensitivity test is actually a kit (that is how it was sent to me) and it consists of a card with markings on it and a device to hold the card and rest the holder on your chin to get the proper distance. The way I had to use it was to look at the card under a certain kind of flourescent light and try to determine which direction the objects on the card were pointing. There were, I believe 8 to 10 levels across and I think six down for a total of around 48 objects. They started out dark at level one and got progressively lighter to level 8. And the same going down, starting out dark at level one and lighter to level 6. When I first took this test there is no way you could convince me that there was anything at all after level two or three...I saw nothing!!!! By the end of the testing period (I was on for 5 months) I could see all the way to 8!!! Dr. Shoemaker could not believe that it took me 5 months...most of his other test subjects improved in 6-8 weeks. The more I could see on the test...the better my overall vision, disorientation, dizziness, and motion sickness got. He could tell how my overall vision was by my going through the test over the phone from land!!! It was really kindof spooky. But it did eleviate these symptoms...I was on IV abx at the time (still on IV now) and his theory was that the toxins were building up as they were being eliminated and that is why it took so long to get results with me. When his paper comes out (I do not know when that is it should be soon...) I am one of those tested and the extreme chronic case that he talks about in the paper. I just cannot remember the name of the company that manufactures the test kits... I do know that they are $400 apiece because that kept getting repeated to me about the cost of the test kit and don't loose it! Come to think of it it is probably on the website about neurotoxins http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ I believe that now they are doing the testing over the internet instead of the kits...I don't understand that since I was told it needed to be under the flourescent light to be accurate....maybe they found a way... Hope this info helps....If you have any other questions, let me know, I would be glad to try to answer them.... BTW...six months after being off the Questran...the vision and other problems have begun to return but nowhere near at the level they were before. I guess I need to find a dr that will prescribe the treatment for me again. BTW my llmd isn't sold on this and will not prescribe it for me. I really trust him, I know he really looked into this when I informed him I was going to try it in the study. Rhonna and/or Robynn wrote: > Rhonna, > > Can you tell me more about these vision acuity tests? Do they have an official name? My roommate manages an Optometric office and we both found the idea of using an eye test to determine neurotoxins fascinating. Anything that you can provide about this will be much appreciated. > > Robynn > Re: [ ] choletryromine/chronicneurotoxins.com > > Christy--- > This is the treatment that is being done by Dr. Richie Shoemaker from Pokomoke City, MD. The > visual acuity test he uses to determine if you have neurotoxins in you. If you test positive > on the test, he believes that the Cholestyrimine (Questran) can be used to alieviate the > symptoms...this applies to more than just lyme...sick building syndrome, CFDS, > Pfesteria....if you test positive on the visual acuity test, he believes the symptoms can be > relieved. I know this because I was one of the test subjects for his paper. I had one of > the visual acutity contraptions in my home for about 5 months. My vision did improve along > with dizziness, disorientation, mothion sickness, etc. It took 5 months of treatment for me > to get that far...all his other test subjects improved in less than two months...however, I > had probably the most severe case out of those tested...I had been undiagnosed for ten > years!!!! If you want more info I will post...I think I posted some on this a while ago, but > cannot remember exactly when (lyme brain...it didn;t change that!). > Hope this answers some of your questions Christy. > Rhonna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2000 Report Share Posted June 14, 2000 Thanks for this description. Marta also sent me a picture of the card that you look at. This all sounds a little like quackery to me, but so does a lot of the things I've tried while battling this disease. LOL. I am so glad that this worked for you. Do you think you could get Shoemaker to prescribe the stuff to you again? It sounds like anyone with a credit card can get scripts through the website. Let mw know if you do go back on this stuff and how you do. Robynn Re: [ ] choletryromine/chronicneurotoxins.com Robynn-- The visual contrast sensitivity test is actually a kit (that is how it was sent to me) and it consists of a card with markings on it and a device to hold the card and rest the holder on your chin to get the proper distance. The way I had to use it was to look at the card under a certain kind of flourescent light and try to determine which direction the objects on the card were pointing. There were, I believe 8 to 10 levels across and I think six down for a total of around 48 objects. They started out dark at level one and got progressively lighter to level 8. And the same going down, starting out dark at level one and lighter to level 6. When I first took this test there is no way you could convince me that there was anything at all after level two or three...I saw nothing!!!! By the end of the testing period (I was on for 5 months) I could see all the way to 8!!! Dr. Shoemaker could not believe that it took me 5 months...most of his other test subjects improved in 6-8 weeks. The more I could see on the test...the better my overall vision, disorientation, dizziness, and motion sickness got. He could tell how my overall vision was by my going through the test over the phone from land!!! It was really kindof spooky. But it did eleviate these symptoms...I was on IV abx at the time (still on IV now) and his theory was that the toxins were building up as they were being eliminated and that is why it took so long to get results with me. When his paper comes out (I do not know when that is it should be soon...) I am one of those tested and the extreme chronic case that he talks about in the paper. I just cannot remember the name of the company that manufactures the test kits... I do know that they are $400 apiece because that kept getting repeated to me about the cost of the test kit and don't loose it! Come to think of it it is probably on the website about neurotoxins http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ I believe that now they are doing the testing over the internet instead of the kits...I don't understand that since I was told it needed to be under the flourescent light to be accurate....maybe they found a way... Hope this info helps....If you have any other questions, let me know, I would be glad to try to answer them.... BTW...six months after being off the Questran...the vision and other problems have begun to return but nowhere near at the level they were before. I guess I need to find a dr that will prescribe the treatment for me again. BTW my llmd isn't sold on this and will not prescribe it for me. I really trust him, I know he really looked into this when I informed him I was going to try it in the study. Rhonna and/or Robynn wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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