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I also have hyperreflexia even with 2400 mg/d of neurontin. Is this the

effects of lyme on the CNS...the tingling of my extremities seem to go along

with it. Is this what anyone else has dealt with?

Donna

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In a message dated 2/18/02 10:58:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

alopeztcr@... writes:

> I also have hyperreflexia even with 2400 mg/d of neurontin. Is this the

> effects of lyme on the CNS...the tingling of my extremities seem to go

> along

> with it. Is this what anyone else has dealt with?

>

> Donna

>

I too have the tingling extremeties now. Do you experience muscle twitching?

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>>>>>I have heard too much mag. can bind up bowels so be careful

because if waste does not come out all kinds of sickness will result. It

actually backed up so bad for me that the toxins in the waste was literally

poisining my body and made me very sick I thought I was dying so please be

careful!

I always thought that mag would cause diarhea if taken in too high a dosage,

no? My doc said that low mag can be causing my twitches and hyperreflexia.

What is quinine? is it Plaquenil? When you had twitching Jeri, was it only in

your legs? I have it all over and it is driving me crazy! I want to have an

EMG to rule out any other horrible causes but doc says to wait and see.

Wondering if all the Flagyl might not be contributing to my numbeness ,

tingling and twitching? It is so hard to know!

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Yes, this I think is pretty common with these tick-borne diseases. My

twitching was so bad my legs would fly up and jerk around which was also

painful and my family would sit and massage them until painkiller and muscle

relaxer would put me to sleep. That was about a year ago or so and since I

am now on Quinnine 260mgs and only lil bit of magnesium it has not happened

in a long time. I have heard too much mag. can bind up bowels so be careful

because if waste does not come out all kinds of sickness will result. It

actually backed up so bad for me that the toxins in the waste was literally

poisining my body and made me very sick I thought I was dying so please be

careful!

Jeri in IN USA We can do it together!

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Krisina,

Quinnine is a maleria drug but is also used for leg cramps and muscle

twitching. Yes The twitching was everywhere even in the eye muscles. I could

be mixing up mag with iron tabs too, sorry but brain is foggy sometimes and

I have to go back to stuff that I'm not sure about but the Quinnine I am

sure about. Many supplements can bind up with some so always read about them

first. BTW I had all this twitching and was not on Flagyl at the time. I am

now on Flagyl, Quinnine, Viox, and Elavil. The rest are vit and supplements.

Hope this helps.

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I believe it was the Bleiweiss report that said Lyme patients tend to be

very low in magnesium and that it, like many Lyme sx, may not show up in

normal blood tests. If memory serves, Mg deficiency can cause heart attacks.

Rita

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i had the twitching all over too, some of it so major it was more like

tremor. i took calcium/mag combined which helped. potassium was also

beneficial. still get the eye twitching and other ocassionally, the eye can

sometimes last for a week or more! pj

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In a message dated 2/19/2002 9:37:04 AM Central Standard Time,

StarDantzer@... writes:

> I too have the tingling extremeties now. Do you experience muscle twitching?

> a

>

The twitching I had was unbearable and I had such tremors of the hand, I

couldn't write. The neurontin seemed to help but the tingling goes on and

the neurologists at UCLA told me 2 yrs. ago that I had severe peripheral

neuropathy of hands and lower extremities. I think that many of the symptoms

were helped with the rocephin but I didn't journal which was a big

mistake...my lyme doc at the time told me to just write a sentence in my

calendar.

Hope in healing,

Donna

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Rita: having low magnesium levels seemed correlated with many patients I

used to see coming into the ER where I worked before being disabled. When

patients came in with coronaries and in full arrest and their fibrillating

hearts didn't respond to the early advanced CPR drugs, we had it on our

protocol to give magnesium sulfate. But I think it would be wise to get a

doctor to do a blood level for mag. and discussing it with an LLMD if

possible. Too much magnesium isn't a good thing either.

Donna

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Dear PJ,

Have you looked into NST (neuro structural technique) - a HIGHLY

effective method of rebalancing autonomic nervous system???

If anyone wants info, let me know, I have site links which list

trained practitioners. (This is very inexpensive, considering the

truly amazing effects we've experienced; typically 3 treatments are

required - 1st 2 are one week apart, then a tx at 3 weeks. Prices

range by area & practitioner from $40 per treatment to $125 -

depending upon practitioner's prices...)

Hope this is helpful!

Blessings,

Chris

> i had the twitching all over too, some of it so major it was more

like

> tremor. i took calcium/mag combined which helped. potassium was

also

> beneficial. still get the eye twitching and other ocassionally, the

eye can

> sometimes last for a week or more! pj

>

>

>

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Hi Chris:

Is this something that insurance will cover? Also, does it work for

Hyporeflexia?

thank you

best,

lea

> Dear PJ,

>

> Have you looked into NST (neuro structural technique) - a HIGHLY

> effective method of rebalancing autonomic nervous system???

>

> If anyone wants info, let me know, I have site links which list

> trained practitioners. (This is very inexpensive, considering the

> truly amazing effects we've experienced; typically 3 treatments

are

> required - 1st 2 are one week apart, then a tx at 3 weeks. Prices

> range by area & practitioner from $40 per treatment to $125 -

> depending upon practitioner's prices...)

>

> Hope this is helpful!

>

> Blessings,

>

> Chris

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In a message dated 2/19/2002 6:50:51 PM Central Standard Time,

synchronicity336@... writes:

>

> Have you looked into NST (neuro structural technique) - a HIGHLY

> effective method of rebalancing autonomic nervous system???

>

> If anyone wants info, let me know, I have site links which list

>

i would like whatever info you have on this, chris. thank you. pj

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Dear Donna,

Of all the " balancing " / supplemental therapies we've experienced,

this is the most profound.

As with all holistic healing, we've experienced (as we were told we

would) the good old " peeling back of the layers of the onion " - where

old injuries resurface briefly, then seem to be released from the

body. This occurred with old lyme sxs which have been completely

absent for over 1 year, as well as old sports injuries resurfacing

briefly, then disappearing.

If your physical therapist is trained in this technique, then you can

receive it from them. (One must be a " hands on " health care

practitioner in order to be trained in this technique, as advanced

anatomy & physiology are required.) From what I've read, this

technique is about 50 years old; began in Australia by a very gifted

healer & not only balances autonomic system, but boosts the immune

system as a result of autonomic balance being restored.

Here are 2 websites for your perusal...

USBOWEN.COM

MERCOLA.COM (upper right - search box, type in NST; then when page

loads, there will be an option to find practitioner in your area.

Canada is also included at this site).

Hope this is helpful - feel free to email if you'd like more info.

Blessings!

PS - Supposed to be VERY effective in relieving pain as well.

> I would also like to know more about NST. Can I receive it from a

physical

> therapist's office?

>

> Donna

>

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Chris: if you know someone in the Houston, Tx area, please let me know. I

am so ill right now, espec. after the attempted and failed picc line

insertion. Pain 10+ and chills, etc.

Thanks for your kindness...where would the world be without people like

yourself...probably not liveable.

Warm wishes to all,

Donna

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Dear Donna,

You are MOST welcome for info. My entire internet existence is

solely to find treatments to help victims of lyme!!!!

As I'm sure you know, these diseases really turn life upside-down &

can be quite frightening until one finds their answer as to how to

eradicate & restore homeostasis... Seems it goes in steps - one

thing works to a point, then another is needed. This is a GIANT step

in the right direction, as energy continues to improve by the day!

Blessings,

Chris

> Thank you synchronicity for your help about NST. I will look into

it and

> have emailed a practitioner in the Houston area.

>

> Donna

>

>

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Dear Donna,

Oops... Forgot to ask if you would please let us all know about your

treatments (or if you need further info on practitioners - will do

all we can to help!)...

Thanks!

Blessings,

Chris

PS - Also, applied kinesiology (releasing old aches /pains /

injuries) is awesome as well & can be done right before NST tx.

(Assuming doc is trained in this technique.)

> Thank you synchronicity for your help about NST. I will look into

it and

> have emailed a practitioner in the Houston area.

>

> Donna

>

>

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Dear Donna,

I am in the process of emailing all the practitioners in the Houston

area - as silly as this sounds, MSN (HATE IT) doesn't display your

email address completely, so I cannot send you a copy of the email.

If you will email me off list (so that I can save to my addy book), I

will forward my emails to these practitioners.

As soon as I receive responses, I will then forward them to you!

Thank you for the kind words - no biggie on this end - we've overcome

the lyme & you haven't YET - keep the faith!!!!! (Isn't that WHY

we're all HERE in the earth - to help one another, lend a helping

hand / share knowledge and perspectives???)

BIG HUGS!

Chris

PS My email is SYNCHRONICITY336@...

IF YOU ARE TOO ILL TO EMAIL, CAN YOU HAVE A FRIEND SEND ME YOUR

COMPLETE ADDY SO THAT I WILL THEN BE ABLE TO FORWARD ANSWERS TO

INQUIRIES?

> Chris: if you know someone in the Houston, Tx area, please let me

know. I

> am so ill right now, espec. after the attempted and failed picc

line

> insertion. Pain 10+ and chills, etc.

>

> Thanks for your kindness...where would the world be without people

like

> yourself...probably not liveable.

>

> Warm wishes to all,

>

> Donna

>

>

>

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Dear ,

Thanks! when i do as you suggested, properties show lyme-aid.

do you have msn? if so, could you please tell me how to SAVE emails -

esp. pix?

no one i know has ideas...

blessings

chris

> If you right click on the person's name in the from column and then

on properties, it will give the whole email addy.

> FYI

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I do have MSN and did you rt click on the person's name and then click on

properties? The screen that pops up has the person's whole addy on it, under

lyme-aid.

To save email, click on edit at top of page and then move to folder. You can

create a folder or send it to saved mail. Highlight the folder you want it to go

to and then OK. To create a new folder, click on edit, move to folder, new

folder, type in whatever you want it to say and then click ok. HTH

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Dear ,

Tried right clicking on your name, then properties. NO email addy

under lyme-aid. (I'm running xp - perhaps that's the problem???)

Will try your save email remedy... Don't think I have an EDIT option

in email.

Thanks again.

Blessings,

CHris

> I do have MSN and did you rt click on the person's name and

then click on properties? The screen that pops up has the person's

whole addy on it, under lyme-aid.

>

> To save email, click on edit at top of page and then move to

folder. You can create a folder or send it to saved mail. Highlight

the folder you want it to go to and then OK. To create a new folder,

click on edit, move to folder, new folder, type in whatever you want

it to say and then click ok. HTH

>

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I know nothing about xp but just happen to have someone coming over today to fix

my system who does and I will ask him about the email stuff, if I can remember.

Am writing myself a post-it right now.

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