Re: Sexual transmission question

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Am I safe in assuming (without seeing the article)

that it said that there is a study that believes it

can be transmitted? I have heard through the nurses &

docs at my LLMD that it can go from male to female,

but not sure about the other way. I don't know what

they are basing it on, but they were fairly certain it

could be. Anyway, do you mind sharing what the

article says about it?

Thanks,

Jeannie

--- Ssadlermas@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/30/02 12:39:26 PM,

> copeland.cole@... writes:

>

> << If it can be transmitted sexually, I have never

> read a

> study about it. I've seen *anecdotal* stories on

> here,

> which means just speculation. >>

>

> See ALTERNATIVE MAGAZINE, May 2001 issue #41. you

> can call them and order it

> back order..... 800-333-HEAL

> sue in nj

> sue massie

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, Robyn...I have softened my statement in another

post as you have pointed out here it should be. Let

me clarify a few more points...

I don't think sex is the culpret...so, don't

worry...you can still have sex!!! Everyone can calm

down now...ok?

I never meant to say it was an STD, but someone who

wanted to know asked (paraphrased), " Can you get it

sexually from a female to a male partner? " and the

answer is yes...it is possible under very certain

circumstances (during initial high fever). If I were

not responding to a direct question of someone else, I

certainly wouldn't have implied having sex with

someone with LD will get you LD.

During the initial high fever my partner had, she was

sweating, had the chills, was breathing heavy and very

very INFECTED....with something! Didn't know what it

was at the time. She was really really sick. We were

lying in bed, naked under the covers and I was trying

to keep her warm...she was breathing into my mouth

lying on her side. My sweat glads were touching her

sweatglands full body...who knows HOW it made the

leap? At that time the disease is contagious somehow,

ok? This is the key time which has caused at least

two LLMD's in the world (prominant Texan, mine and

perhaps some others) and a few individuals (me and I'm

sure a few others) to believe it can be

contagious...but if that high fever were the

flu...THAT would be contagious as well! Big deal.

This is no big surprise or leap of faith! I've had LD

several times over the last five years for much of

that time and never given it to my sexual partner...or

come close to it either...nor do any of the two LLMD

believers consider LD an STD...I don't think (I better

put that on there or I'll get in trouble!)

Cheers,

-Jeff L.

ps: Just be careful...as I should have been no matter

what she was infected with!!!

--- PrincessKiara70@... wrote:

> As for myself with this disease I have enough to

> worry about. I hate to see

> rumors of it being fact that it is sexually

> transmittable flying around.

> Those of us who have been through hell and back and

> continue to battle eevry

> day just to get out of bed don't need something more

> to worry about or panic

> about....I just wish some people would put proof

> behind what they claim to be

> fact before they go spouting off..

> Who knows if it's sexually transmittable. The

> medical community says no

> but then again we all know what the medical says

> about Lyme and we have proof

> they are wrong there but thats not to say they are

> wrong about thisas well.

> We just dont know. Which is why if your just

> conveying a theory or your own

> belief then it should be stated so.This is not what

> the poster Jeff did..

> That was my whole problem with his post.

> Robyn In NJ

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You go Ilse!!

--- ilseaurora@... wrote:

> In a message dated 30.04.02 13:28:39 US Eastern

> Standard Time, rod@...

> writes:

>

>

> > Y'all please recall the CDC's stance on Lyme. If

> we believed everything that

> > they say, most of us don't have Lyme anymore , we

> have Post Lyme Syndrome.

> > Just as we cannot state with conviction that Lyme

> can be transmitted

> > sexually, neither can they. No study has EVER been

> done. Ever. Until one

> > is done by a NON-Steerite I will not believe 100%

> either way.

>

> That's exactly what I was thinking.. Actually,

> according to CDC some of us

> probably don't even have PLS. Whatever. I would

> just, as they say, " proceed

> with due caution " .

>

> Ilse in Canada

> ----------------------

> " Das Ziel des Lebens ist das Gute "

> -Tolstoi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Liz,

I apolgize to you if I slammed your opinion...I'll be

better in the future. Wow, this IS an interesting

issue though, isn't it?

-Jeff L.

--- winddancer44 <winddancer44@...> wrote:

> I posted the CDC info because someone asked if it

> was transmittable

> thorugh sexual contact. I found ONE place that says

> it is not.

> Didn't say I agreed, just had ONE of the answers.

> Like you said,

> this is a collective opinion site. I didn't slam

> you for your

> contribution, don't slam me. You don't have to

> belive what the CDC

> says (no one does) and no one has to belive what you

> (or anyone else)

> says. Someone mentioned they found an article, and

> I asked them to

> post it, because I'd like to read about it. I'm

> open to all sides

> and interpritations.

>

> Liz

>

>

> > > > In a message dated 4/30/2002 12:43:47 PM

> Eastern

> > > > Standard Time,

> > > > jeffl22@y... writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Jeannie ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh, yes you can get it from either partner.

> I

> > > got

> > > > it

> > > > > from a woman myself! So, there you go! I

> also

> > > > know

> > > > > of another couple where the woman contracted

> to

> > > > the

> > > > > man as well

> > > >

> > > > I think this statement is completely false and

> if

> > > > it's not I'd like to see

> > > > PROOF of this. I've been sick since 1990 and I

> > > have

> > > > never ever , anywhere,

> > > > read or seen proof that Lyme disease is

> sexually

> > > > transmittable. Neither my

> > > > husband nor my ex husband have Lyme Disease

> and

> > > they

> > > > were both with me since

> > > > I've been very ill...I think that fact that

> you

> > > > " claim " this is definately

> > > > possible and also " truth " is not only

> > > irresponsible

> > > > but also makes you very

> > > > dangerous to anyone who isn't Lyme

> > > > educated...Provide the proof before you

> > > > lay down what you " say " is fact.

> > > > Robyn In NJ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =====

> > > **Liz Kelso**

> > > " A nice pickle we have landed ourselves in, Mr.

> > > Frodo! " -- Samwise Gamgee.

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

It is OK. No harm done. It is something I've never thought of....and

as MEAN as it sounds, I was hoping my ex husband got it from me...he

is such a creepoid...but that's another issue (Oh I need help. LOL)

Liz

> > > > > In a message dated 4/30/2002 12:43:47 PM

> > Eastern

> > > > > Standard Time,

> > > > > jeffl22@y... writes:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Jeannie ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Oh, yes you can get it from either partner.

> > I

> > > > got

> > > > > it

> > > > > > from a woman myself! So, there you go! I

> > also

> > > > > know

> > > > > > of another couple where the woman contracted

> > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > man as well

> > > > >

> > > > > I think this statement is completely false and

> > if

> > > > > it's not I'd like to see

> > > > > PROOF of this. I've been sick since 1990 and I

> > > > have

> > > > > never ever , anywhere,

> > > > > read or seen proof that Lyme disease is

> > sexually

> > > > > transmittable. Neither my

> > > > > husband nor my ex husband have Lyme Disease

> > and

> > > > they

> > > > > were both with me since

> > > > > I've been very ill...I think that fact that

> > you

> > > > > " claim " this is definately

> > > > > possible and also " truth " is not only

> > > > irresponsible

> > > > > but also makes you very

> > > > > dangerous to anyone who isn't Lyme

> > > > > educated...Provide the proof before you

> > > > > lay down what you " say " is fact.

> > > > > Robyn In NJ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > **Liz Kelso**

> > > > " A nice pickle we have landed ourselves in, Mr.

> > > > Frodo! " -- Samwise Gamgee.

> > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Ahaaaaaaa!!!!!

Thanks for making me laugh today Liz!

--- winddancer44 <winddancer44@...> wrote:

> It is OK. No harm done. It is something I've never

> thought of....and

> as MEAN as it sounds, I was hoping my ex husband got

> it from me...he

> is such a creepoid...but that's another issue (Oh I

> need help. LOL)

>

> Liz

>

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[Guest guest]

I am the one who asked this question & I am finding it

humorous (even though it is not funny at all) how many

emails, comments, opinions, arguments, funny comments,

have taken place in regard to this particular

question. I am glad that I asked it, if for nothing

else, but to see all the emails!! (although I do

really want to know!!)Thanks for all of your

thoughts/opinions!! Any additional info is

welcome!!

Jeannie

--- winddancer44 <winddancer44@...> wrote:

> It is OK. No harm done. It is something I've never

> thought of....and

> as MEAN as it sounds, I was hoping my ex husband got

> it from me...he

> is such a creepoid...but that's another issue (Oh I

> need help. LOL)

>

> Liz

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You know the easiest thing since we aren't for sure that it can be

passed by sex is this. None of us ever have sex again. I will go

first.

I do hereby swear in poor mind and health that I will never ever have

sex again.

[Guest guest]

All I have to say is that if I passed this onto my

husband, not only would I be devastated at his

condition, but we would also be in big trouble

financially & all-around, since I am unable to work,

even part-time-it is already tough, physically,

financially, mentally & emotionally, as you all know,

and we have children,too. The possibility of him

getting from me is very scary to me!

--- jessered57 <jessered57@...> wrote:

> You know the easiest thing since we aren't for sure

> that it can be

> passed by sex is this. None of us ever have sex

> again. I will go

> first.

>

> I do hereby swear in poor mind and health that I

> will never ever have

> sex again.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Well, there it is in writing anyway. Thank you for

sharing the excerpt. I do appreciate it!

Jeannie

--- PrincessKiara70@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/30/2002 1:38:40 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> winddancer44@... writes:

>

>

> > From the horses mouth (CDC) question #2

> >

> > http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/qa.htm

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

> This is an excerpt from the CDC page that Liz sent

> out.

> Q. Could you get Lyme disease from another person?

> A. No, Lyme disease bacteria are NOT transmitted

> from person-to-person. For

> example, you cannot get infected from touching or

> kissing a person who has

> Lyme disease, or from a health care worker who has

> treated someone with the

> disease, or by sexual contact.

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Because we really do not know the answer to that of sexuall transmission we

use condoms, oral sex is unherd of anymore as saliva may be a culprit too.

Better to be safe than sorry

Jeri in IN USA We can do it together!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Jeri, I was thinking that was the way to go,

but I think I was waiting for someone else to confirm

that my thoughts were on the right & logic track!

Jeannie

--- Jerilynn <lymieinin@...> wrote:

> Because we really do not know the answer to that of

> sexuall transmission we

> use condoms, oral sex is unherd of anymore as saliva

> may be a culprit too.

> Better to be safe than sorry

>

>

>

> Jeri in IN USA We can do it together!

>

>

>

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