Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 The word here are so true , I thought I would share with my friends Carolyn Pass it on > Good Reading! > >----------------------------- > > > >What is your answer to the question at the very end? > > > >There once was a man named , a pastor in a small New England > >town. One Easter Sunday morning he came to the church carrying a rusty, > >bend, old bird cage, and set it by the pulpit. Several eyebrows were > raised > >and, as if in response, Pastor began to speak. > > > > " I was walking through town yesterday when I saw a young boy coming > toward > >me swinging this bird cage. On the bottom of the cage were three little > >wild birds, shivering with cold and fright. I stopped the lad and asked, > > " What you got there son? " " Just some old birds, " came the reply. " What > are > >you gonna do with them? " I asked. " Take 'em home and have fun with 'em, " > he > >answered. I'd gonna tease 'em and pull out their feathers to make 'em > >fight. I'm gonna have a real good time. " But you'll get tired of those > >birds sooner or later. What will you do then? " " Oh, I got some cats, " > said > >the little boy. " They like birds. I'll take 'em to them. " > > > >The pastor was silent for a moment. " How much do you want for those > birds, > >son? " > > " Huh??!!! Why, you don't want them birds, mister. They're just plain old > >field birds. They don't sing -- they ain't even pretty! " " how much? " the > >pastor asked again. The boy sized up the pastor as if he were crazy and > >said, " $10? " The pastor reached in his pocket and took out a ten dollar > >bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy was gone. > > > >The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of the > alley > >where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down, he > opened > >the door, and by softly tapping the bars, persuaded the birds out - > setting > >them free. > > > >Well, that explained the empty bird cage on the pulpit, and then the > pastor > >began to tell this story: > > One day Satan and Jesus were having a conversation. Satan had > just > >come from he Garden of Eden, and he was gloating and boasting. " Yes sir, > I > >just caught the world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used > bait I > >knew they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!!! " " What are you going to do > with > >them? " Jesus asked. Satan replied, " Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm gonna > >teach them how to marry and divorce each other, how to hate and abuse > each > >other, how to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how to > invent > >guns and bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun! " > > > > " And what will you do when you get done with them? " Jesus asked. " Oh, > I'll > >kill 'em, " Satan glared proudly. " how much do you want for them? " Jesus > >asked. " Oh, you don't want those people. They ain't no good. Why, > >you'll take them and they'll just hate you. They'll spit on you, curse > you, > >and kill you!! You don't want those people!! " " How much? " He asked > again. > > Satan looked at Jesus and sneered, " all your tears, and all your > blood. " > >Jesus said, " DONE! " Then He paid the price. > > > >The pastor picked up the cage, opened the door and he walked from the > >pulpit. > > > >Isn't it funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder > why > >the world's going to hell. > >Isn't it funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what > the > >Bible says. > >Isn't it funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not > have > >to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says. Or is it scary??? > >Isn't it funny how someone can say " I believe in God " but still follow > Satan > >(who , by the way, also " believes " in God). > >Isn't it funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail and they > >spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the > >Lord, people think twice about sharing. > >Isn't it funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar, and obscene pass freely > through > >cyberspace, but the public discussion of Jesus is suppressed in the > school > >and workplace. > >Isn't it funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on Sunday, but > be > >an invisible Christian the rest of the week. > > Are you laughing? > >Isn't it funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send > it > >to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, > or > >what they will think of you for sending it to them. > >Isn't it funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of > me > >than what God thinks of me. > > > >Who will pass this on? > > > >Walt E. Caswell > >AEI Resources > >Office Ph.#(217)566-3002 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 The Holy Alphabet... Although things are not perfect Because of trial or pain Continue in thanksgiving Do not begin to blame Even when the times are hard Fierce winds are bound to blow God is forever able Hold on to what you know Imagine life without His love J oy would cease to be Keep thanking Him for all the things Love imparts to thee Move out of "Camp Complaining" No weapon that is known On earth can yield the power Praise can do alone Quit looking at the future Redeem the time at hand Start every day with worship To "thank" is a command Until we see Him coming Victorious in the sky We'll run the race with gratitude X alting God most high Y es, there'll be good times and yes some will be bad, but... Z ion waits in glory...where none are ever sad! "I AM Too blessed to be stressed!" The shortest distance between a problem and a solution is the distance between your knees and the floor. The one who kneels to the Lord can stand up to anything. Love and peace be with you forever, Amen. PS: GOD LOVES YOU...PASS THE WORD ON TO MORE FRIENDS AND ASK THEM TO CONTINUE TELLING OTHERS THAT GOD LOVES THEM TOO. JUST THINK OF HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT COULD BE REACHED OUT TO AND BLESSED WITH THESE WORDS. Pass it On FROM : MUKUL CHAUDHRI BUSINESSMAN/MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER 111A/412,ASHOK NAGAR POSITIVE THINKING & MEDITATION 80 FT. ROAD,KANPUR(U.P.) WORKSHOPS SINCE 1997 INDIA-208012 join-PositiveThinking_Meditation(www.) PH(O):0512-2554120/2549576 ®:0512-2551274/2532255 FAX:05122557765 Mob:+919839084514 VISIT MY BLOGwww.mukulchaudhri.blogspot.com E-mail- mukulchaudhri@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 An inspirational story Kathy, and its real. Reminds me of the movie Play it forward I think that was the name of it, not sure. The kindness you speak of comes out in your posts. Ed " PASS IT ON " > My theory of the give and receive question is > Pass it on ... > I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to others than > receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep > forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions. > I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going to > encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so > When I approach the situation, I start by telling the person ... " in > the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never pay > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ... Pass > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. " > That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue > from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on my > kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better than > getting something in return. > I think I inherited this from my mother. > > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it fits ... > I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday) > When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so > difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was going to > do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was sitting > in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked > her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was from > the St. De Society of our Church and would like to bring > in some gifts. > 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3 gifts > for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said they > were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed that she > is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am POSITIVE > she did). > The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open gifts > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of > strangers. > All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She could > never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts for > friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and watched > them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that did not > seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go to the > store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked her > what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying > to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. " > That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed that > on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults. > If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the world > would not be so violent and disturbing. > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead! > Thank you Mom! > > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Kathie- Your story is so touching that I almost started crying, and I am at work. I can just imagine trying to explain that one. By the way, I am only one of five children, but I was born on Friday the 13th. Jo (who really wants these grapes that I am trying to eat...and they just keep sticking!) > > My theory of the give and receive question is > Pass it on ... > I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to others than > receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep > forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions. > I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going to > encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so > When I approach the situation, I start by telling the person ... " in > the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never pay > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ... Pass > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. " > That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue > from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on my > kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better than > getting something in return. > I think I inherited this from my mother. > > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it fits ... > I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday) > When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so > difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was going to > do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was sitting > in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked > her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was from > the St. De Society of our Church and would like to bring > in some gifts. > 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3 gifts > for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said they > were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed that she > is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am POSITIVE > she did). > The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open gifts > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of > strangers. > All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She could > never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts for > friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and watched > them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that did not > seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go to the > store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked her > what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying > to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. " > That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed that > on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults. > If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the world > would not be so violent and disturbing. > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead! > Thank you Mom! > > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Wow Zekers! (sniff) (sniff) that was so awesome.. that was an amazing testimony.. Wow.. I would be willing to bet you are an awesome mom! I 'm a giver .... and like Jo, I was born on Fri 13th... : ) Carolyn..mom of Cameron.. >> My theory of the give and receive question is> Pass it on ...> I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to others than > receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep > forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions.> I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going to > encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so> When I approach the situation, I start by telling the person ... "in > the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never pay > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ... Pass > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle."> That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue > from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on my > kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better than > getting something in return.> I think I inherited this from my mother.> > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it fits ...> I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday)> When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so > difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was going to > do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was sitting > in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked > her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was from > the St. De Society of our Church and would like to bring > in some gifts.> 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3 gifts > for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said they > were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed that she > is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am POSITIVE > she did).> The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open gifts > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of > strangers.> All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She could > never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts for > friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and watched > them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of "little stuff" that did not > seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go to the > store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked her > what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying > to "Pass on the kindness of strangers."> That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed that > on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults.> If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the world > would not be so violent and disturbing. > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead!> Thank you Mom!> > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Hi Jo: I saw you in the chat room last night, but did not see you chat. I am glad that you liked my story ... it was true. It is funny, but you know how there is always one thing you hope for out of your life ... Mine is that I hope my children and grandchildren will admire me 1/2 as much as I admired my mother. She was brought up in an orphanage, and literally had nothing. I honestly NEVER heard her complain while we were growing up. She just accepted life as it was offered. She was truly one of the GOOD people. She lived with us for 30 years (My husband invited her ... that speaks volumes). Unfortunately she passed away 5 years ago. When she was so sick, she cried because I had to do everything for her and she felt terrible about it. I used her own words on her ... " Mom, I am just passing it on like you taught me. " I hope she understood. Jo, I know you are going thru a rough time right now. I am certainly willing to talk if you need me. If you will tell me your mom's name, I will place her name in my prayer vase for God to help her, and you thru this terrible time. Kathie in Pittsburgh PS ... Grapes are an ABSOLUTE no for me. even cut in fours. I almost choked to death on them ... NEVER AGAIN. ************************************************** > My theory of the give and receive question is > > Pass it on ... I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to others than receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions. I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going to encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so When I approach the situation, I start by telling the person ... " in the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never pay them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ... Pass it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. " That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on my kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better than getting something in return. I think I inherited this from my mother. This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it fits ... I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday) When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was going to do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was sitting in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was from the St. De Society of our Church and would like to bring in some gifts. 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3 gifts for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said they were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed that she is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am POSITIVE she did). The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open gifts she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of strangers. All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She could never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts for friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and watched them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that did not seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go to the store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked her what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. " That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed that on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults. If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the world would not be so violent and disturbing. Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead! Thank you Mom! Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 -That was a beautiful story Kathie. The kindness of others can sometimes just stop us in our tracks. This was a time when people returned your Mothers kindness. What goes around comes around. We also know that you are a kind giving person. When we all heard your news of your E we all wished we were right there to hug you. We all shre your concern to you appointment on the 16th. If I was closer I would come with you to help ask the questions. Kind regards -- In achalasia , " zekenoahme " <kgasior2@...> wrote: > > My theory of the give and receive question is > Pass it on ... > I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to others than > receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep > forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions. > I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going to > encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so > When I approach the situation, I start by telling the person ... " in > the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never pay > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ... Pass > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. " > That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue > from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on my > kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better than > getting something in return. > I think I inherited this from my mother. > > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it fits ... > I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday) > When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so > difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was going to > do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was sitting > in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked > her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was from > the St. De Society of our Church and would like to bring > in some gifts. > 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3 gifts > for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said they > were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed that she > is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am POSITIVE > she did). > The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open gifts > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of > strangers. > All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She could > never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts for > friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and watched > them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that did not > seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go to the > store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked her > what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying > to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. " > That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed that > on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults. > If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the world > would not be so violent and disturbing. > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead! > Thank you Mom! > > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Hi Kathie- I didn't feel well last night, so just peeked in at chat. My Mom is Arlene Mae Swarts. I see there are at least 4 of us who have close relatives with Parkinson's-you, , and I. I am not sure what that means. Thanks for thinking of me. I wish Mom could just live with us, but we aren't home enough because of our work, and she needs full time professional care. Jo > > My theory of the give and receive question is > > > Pass it on ... I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of > giving to others than receiving. I drive my family nuts at > Christmas, because I keep forgetting to open my gifts until I see > other reactions. > I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going > to encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so When I > approach the situation, I start by telling the person ... " in the > past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never pay > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ... Pass > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. " That really seems to > help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue from someone who calls > me to tell me that they just passed on my kindness. That has > happened 3 times and it is so much better than getting something in > return. > I think I inherited this from my mother. > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it fits ... > I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday) When I > was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so difficult for > my mother, and she did not know what she was going to do. On > Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was sitting in the > livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked her if > the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was from the > St. De Society of our Church and would like to bring in > some gifts. 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas > and 3 gifts for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She > said they were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed > that she is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am > POSITIVE she did). > The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open gifts > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of > strangers. All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She > could never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts > for friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and > watched them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that > did not seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. > go to the store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I > asked her what this was all about, and she told me, she was just > trying to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. " That made a HUGE > impact on my life. I think I have also passed that on to my kids, I > know they are very kind adults. If we could only get this to be a > real movement, perhaps the world would not be so violent and > disturbing. > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead! > Thank you Mom! > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Jo: I am fortunate with the ability to work from my home. It is a mixed blessing as you work about 14 hours plus per day. I am very often at this computer until 3AM (with occasional peaks at my favorite board). When my Mom began to become ill, I hired someone for 2 days a week, my daughter came in 1 day and I began working 2 days from home. It was a tremendous juggling act. I can't imagine doing it without help. My sister in California constantly feels guilty that she did not help more ... but she really did. She called all the time, flew in and visited when she could, sent cards and letters. Distance kept her away, but she was really there in spirit and my mom knew it! We each do what we can, and you are doing everything you can. Please do not beat yourself up over it. Throw the grapes away and take care of yourself ... we DO NOT want to aggrevate your A Kathie (your name and your Moms is now in the prayer vase) > My Mom is Arlene Mae Swarts. I see there are at least 4 of us who > have close relatives with Parkinson's-you, , and I. I > am not sure what that means. Thanks for thinking of me. I wish Mom > could just live with us, but we aren't home enough because of our > work, and she needs full time professional care. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Pass It On ~ Someone taught you how to love, and probably didn't know it, and in return, with every day, it's now you're turn to show it. When you love, you give a gift, and when you're gone it stays, to be passed on by the ones you loved, to make someone else's day. So remember someone who loved you, and show how much you care, by sharing all the love they gave, with people everywhere. When you give away your love, that doesn't mean it's gone. Love will last forever, so open up your heart . . . and pass it on. Tell me and I'll forget Show me and I may remember Involve me and I'll understandsending healing and soulful messages from the angels of mystic I'm following the rainbow of love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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