Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Thanks, Sue, for your account of Lobby day, and let's hope the optimistic feeling you got will be verified during the year ahead. Nelly [ ] yesterday > Hi all, > > Yesterday in Albany was my first Lyme Lobby Day, and I'm really glad that my > husband and I went. > > Soon after we arrived, the out-of-staters stood in the front of the teach-in > area, and on cue each of them held up a huge sign that had a single letter > on it. Together the letters spelled something like, " The world is watching > NY OPMC bias against Lyme. " When the signs went up, everyone started > cheering, and the T.V. cameras were whirring away. For me, it was a very > emotional moment. > > The parents of one of the speakers, a doctor from Connecticut, were sitting > behind us. He made an excellent speech about Lyme; his parents (about my > age) must be very proud of him. My husband noted that the doctor was reading > his speech, so I hope someone can get a copy of it and publish it. > > Pat , president of the Lyme Disease Foundation (I think) also made a > great speech. I hope that someone will post some of the important > announcements she made. > > " Sue in New Jersey, " from this list, was one of the people holding up a > large letter sign and I got to say hello to her. (For the record, she's > young, slim, blonde and very pretty.) > > > My husband and I were then sent with two others to speak to an assemblyman > who is a member of the health committee, and he seemed very receptive to our > request that the scientific bias of the Office of Professional Medical > Conduct be investigated. He said he would speak to the committe chairman > about it and write to us. > > Then we were sent to the Capitol building to speak to legislative assistants > with about five other " lobbyists. " Again, the assistants were intelligent, > interested young women who now seem to understand our point of view, and > said they would talk to their bosses. > > I hope there are so many breakthroughs this year that there's no need for > such a gathering next year, but if there is another Lobby Day, I'll be > there, hoping to meet more of you. Meanwhile, my husband and I will be > setting up appointments with our local assemblyman and senator, whom we did > not get to see yesterday. > > I came away feeling that we can accomplish amazing things if we all work > together. > > Best, > Sue B. > upstate New York > > > > > > > > Welcome to > > Easy Reference: > Send a blank email message to: > > -Unsubscribe - Unsubscribe from the list > -Digest - Switch your subscription to a digest format > -Normal - Switch your subscription to normal > > Please send messages not related to Lyme disease (this includes humor and information about other diseases) to -Offtopic > > The archives can be accessed at > > The chat room is always open! > /chat > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Thanks for sharing your day with us. It sounds like it was a positive experience, and hopefully a help for our cause. The human spirit is stronger than anything that canhappen to it. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hi , I know people do things different and only you know what is best for your child. I personally feel that you should e-mail this to the medical PT center or mail a copy to go in Annika's file. It could someday make a difference. Hugs, Roxie Yesterday I have debated about whether posting this or not but I am so both frustrated and in humor over this situation I decided that I will post it. I will first say that I am not trying to start a debate over child rearing policies or anything but just wanted to share a little about the personality of my little " princess " . Yesterday she went back to her medical PT for the first time in about a month. Last week we needed a doctor's order and before we were just so busy with all the pre-reimplant appointments and keeping her healthy we just never made it. Because Annika's balance is so much better it was really neat to see how she was going to do. Well, for the first time in a long time Annika was able to walk into the office from our vehichle all on her own(with the walker). She didn't complain the whole time and was racing with me on the way in. I can say that it is a fair distance but not managable. So into the session she went and she had her moments but really had a good session. She wanted to be carried out of the session. So I have an option. Do I carry her, the backpack, the walker, my purse or do we wait her out. I told her that I would carry her out to the waiting area to get her coat but then she would need to walk. She understood and was fine once I put her down in the walker and put her coat on. She walked out of the office and made it about 10 feet down the hallway. She then proceeded to start to pretend to collapse on the floor and throw one of her temper tantrums. Believe me as her mother I can really tell whether she is too tired to walk or is she just wanting to control mom and have her way. This was definitely one of those times that physically she could do what I wanted her to do so I had to just let her thrown her tantrum. Well, true to Annika's form this was a good one. It was lasting about 5-10 minutes. She wasn't screaming the whole time. She would stop look around if anyone was paying her attention and then start again. Or she would check if I was coming back to help her. Well, then this couple came out of the office along with one of the secrataries. They were convinced that Annika was hurt and no one was caring for her. I could understand that. I was a few feet beyond them because if I stand near her she will crawl over to me and start things again. I told them that she was just fine she was just having a little fit(believe me there were many other people who had walked by this whole scenario with comments like-she's three right?, she is strong willed right?, she's stubborn?, only to be a child again and think we can just cry to get our way. " Most people understood completely what was happening. Considering this is one of the primary children's therapy centers outside of the metro area this cannot be on uncommon occurence in this place. The secretary asked me if she needed help up at all and I told her no she could get up on her own(if I thought she couldn't I would be there, for pete's sake I am her mom and I would help her to the enth degree if I could!!!). Well, then the secretary went back into the office and then the couple basically started to accuse me of child abuse. One comment was " she has a walker for pete's sake she is disabled!!!! " Well, I wanted to say " no duh " . We exchanged a few other words and I just didn't know whatelse to say. They walked away and said that I could explain it to the police when they showed up. She was going or had called(I don't know which she said) 911. Right after the couple walked away, Annika stood up in her walker with a smile on her face and walked the whole way out to the van with a very pleasant atttitude. Like the past 5 minutes never happened. This is my child. Once she knows we won't give in she is okay let's go then. And off she goes like it never happened. I just couldn't believe this. In the past 3 years of Annika's life, I have never had to defend anything that we have done with her. I mean I never let my boys get away with something like this but I am supposed to let her get away with this because she is disabled? I know she needs more help than the boys did and believe me she gets it but when it comes to the battle of wills as her parent I have to make sure that she understands that she can't get away with everything and sometimes we have to do things that we don't want to do. Just wanted to share. I don't know why Annika decided to get up after this exchange. I know that she heard everything that was said and probably understood some of it. But after it was all said and done I didn't know whether to scream, cry or laugh!!! Mom of 4 Marcus 15 13 Jon 11 Annika 3 Bilaterally implant 3/1/04 Hookup 3/25/04 re-implanted 10/28/05-left spastic diaplegic CP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 , I think that you handled things perfectly. As Annika's mother, you know better than ANYONE else (aside, perhaps her therapist and other family members of course) what is the best way to handle her. I agree with you that this kind of " melt down " is surely not a first at the facility you were at. You can pretty much tell in situations when the parents are loving and caring and just " riding the storm out " and when there is suspected abuse being verbal or physical. If the parent is trying to remain calm, talk it through or, in your case just letting the moment take it's course, then you can pretty much bet that everything is fine. It's when the parents are screaming, yelling obscenities at their children or hitting them, that you get suspicious. I don't know what I would have done in your place with the couple threatening to call the police. I think I would have wanted to scream obscenities and hit them! After all, they have absolutely NO IDEA what you and your family have gone through with your daughter. So, go ahead and scream, cry, laugh and then laugh again. The joke is on that couple because they over reacted. But, at least they cared. And that is good. They were probably scared and concerned which prompted them to say/so what they did. They could have handled things differently, but again at least they cared. Hopefully, when there is a situation that does require some intervention for a child somewhere in the world, there will be a couple like that to " come to the child's rescue " . I am sure that if things had gone so far as to get the police involved the couple would have felt very foolish when it was all explained. Thank goodness for your sake it didn't go that far though! I think you are doing a wonderful job with your daughter and you are right to have certain expectations for her. Just because she has special needs, doesn't mean that she gets special treatment. Although you may have different expectations from her because of her situation, you still have expectations and rules for her that she must meet and follow. If you didn't, you would have a wild child on your hands! So hang in there and know that you did what you felt was right. And of course " Mom knows best " ! in Indiana ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wanha Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:52 AM Listen-Up ; ; ClarionCI ; cicircle ; CI-Clarion-2 ; SWC_OurChildren; CPParent - For Parents of Children with Cerebral Palsy Subject: Yesterday I have debated about whether posting this or not but I am so both frustrated and in humor over this situation I decided that I will post it. I will first say that I am not trying to start a debate over child rearing policies or anything but just wanted to share a little about the personality of my little " princess " . Yesterday she went back to her medical PT for the first time in about a month. Last week we needed a doctor's order and before we were just so busy with all the pre-reimplant appointments and keeping her healthy we just never made it. Because Annika's balance is so much better it was really neat to see how she was going to do. Well, for the first time in a long time Annika was able to walk into the office from our vehichle all on her own(with the walker). She didn't complain the whole time and was racing with me on the way in. I can say that it is a fair distance but not managable. So into the session she went and she had her moments but really had a good session. She wanted to be carried out of the session. So I have an option. Do I carry her, the backpack, the walker, my purse or do we wait her out. I told her that I would carry her out to the waiting area to get her coat but then she would need to walk. She understood and was fine once I put her down in the walker and put her coat on. She walked out of the office and made it about 10 feet down the hallway. She then proceeded to start to pretend to collapse on the floor and throw one of her temper tantrums. Believe me as her mother I can really tell whether she is too tired to walk or is she just wanting to control mom and have her way. This was definitely one of those times that physically she could do what I wanted her to do so I had to just let her thrown her tantrum. Well, true to Annika's form this was a good one. It was lasting about 5-10 minutes. She wasn't screaming the whole time. She would stop look around if anyone was paying her attention and then start again. Or she would check if I was coming back to help her. Well, then this couple came out of the office along with one of the secrataries. They were convinced that Annika was hurt and no one was caring for her. I could understand that. I was a few feet beyond them because if I stand near her she will crawl over to me and start things again. I told them that she was just fine she was just having a little fit(believe me there were many other people who had walked by this whole scenario with comments like-she's three right?, she is strong willed right?, she's stubborn?, only to be a child again and think we can just cry to get our way. " Most people understood completely what was happening. Considering this is one of the primary children's therapy centers outside of the metro area this cannot be on uncommon occurence in this place. The secretary asked me if she needed help up at all and I told her no she could get up on her own(if I thought she couldn't I would be there, for pete's sa ke I am her mom and I would help her to the enth degree if I could!!!). Well, then the secretary went back into the office and then the couple basically started to accuse me of child abuse. One comment was " she has a walker for pete's sake she is disabled!!!! " Well, I wanted to say " no duh " . We exchanged a few other words and I just didn't know whatelse to say. They walked away and said that I could explain it to the police when they showed up. She was going or had called(I don't know which she said) 911. Right after the couple walked away, Annika stood up in her walker with a smile on her face and walked the whole way out to the van with a very pleasant atttitude. Like the past 5 minutes never happened. This is my child. Once she knows we won't give in she is okay let's go then. And off she goes like it never happened. I just couldn't believe this. In the past 3 years of Annika's life, I have never had to defend anything that we have done with her. I mean I never let my boys get away with something like this but I am supposed to let her get away with this because she is disabled? I know she needs more help than the boys did and believe me she gets it but when it comes to the battle of wills as her parent I have to make sure that she understands that she can't get away with everything and sometimes we have to do things that we don't want to do. Just wanted to share. I don't know why Annika decided to get up after this exchange. I know that she heard everything that was said and probably understood some of it. But after it was all said and done I didn't know whether to scream, cry or laugh!!! Mom of 4 Marcus 15 13 Jon 11 Annika 3 Bilaterally implant 3/1/04 Hookup 3/25/04 re-implanted 10/28/05-left spastic diaplegic CP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Whenever I read your emails about Annika, I am overwhelmed at your parenting skills. Annika is one lucky little girl to have such parents. One day she will thank you for all your struggles in making her who she becomes. I have no doubts she will go far in her endeavors. Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I know people do things different and only you know what is best for your child. I personally feel that you should e-mail this to the medical PT center or mail a copy to go in Annika's file. It could someday make a difference. I was going to email her therapist about this because I also thought that I would need something on record for my sake. So thanks for confirming this thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 You bet girl, you have to look out for the little ones - protect them - they can not learn and grow unless you are there to guide them even - if it is not their ideal of how things are done. Thanks so much for your reply - I remembered as soon as I emailed this to you that things on the site should be kept on the site and I apologized for suggesting you sending the e-mail. I was just furious that a medical PT center would do that. Roxie Re: Yesterday I know people do things different and only you know what is best for your child. I personally feel that you should e-mail this to the medical PT center or mail a copy to go in Annika's file. It could someday make a difference. I was going to email her therapist about this because I also thought that I would need something on record for my sake. So thanks for confirming this thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 , you're a wonderful Mom for encouraging independence in your daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 The joke is on that couple because they over reacted. But, at least they cared. And that is good. They were probably scared and concerned which prompted them to say/so what they did. They could have handled things differently, but again at least they cared. Hopefully, when there is a situation that does require some intervention for a child somewhere in the world, there will be a couple like that to " come to the child's rescue " . I am sure that if things had gone so far as to get the police involved the couple would have felt very foolish when it was all explained. Thank goodness for your sake it didn't go that far though! , thank you for getting me to think of them in a different light. Yes, I am glad that there are people out there that care and don't mind getting involved. Because I had distanced myself from her people could have thought she was on her own. Though most did notice that I was watching her and she was watching me. And yet, then once you understood that she was not hurt and was just having a tantrum then back down. But that did not happen. The biggest thing that she said over and over is that she was lying on the floor where people walked and it is dirty there. Even though yes, I understand the floor is dirty-just because yes people walk there, but I ask when did a little dirt hurt someone? Yes, in a different situation I would have told Annika not to lie on the floor because it is dirty but at this moment in time there was no reasoning with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 , I totally understand not being able to reason with your child. This past Saturday I was in Wal-Mart with my two children. The younger one was in the front of the cart strapped in and my older daughter was in the cart. My older daughter, who is two, is going through a phase (at least I hope it's just a phase) where she wants to take all of her clothes off and just wear a bathing suit. She isn't potty trained yet so that leaves her diaperless. I started thinking that maybe she is ready to start working on potty training, so I was going to buy her some underwear. I picked out a package and she wanted to hold the package. That was fine. Then, she opened the package and took them out. Since we were going to buy them, that was fine. THEN, she proceeds to get undressed in the cart! I was mortified. It's one thing to go naked at home, but NOT at a store and especially NOT at a Wal-Mart! THEN she fights with me and throws a major fit because she can't take her clothes off. She had the strength of 10 elephants and I couldn't keep her from removing her clothes! I didn't know what to do. So I finally ripped the underwear from her hands, which is like wrestling with an octopus, and left the area completely. I found a bench and got her out of the cart and make her sit on the bench. Someone could say the same thing, that my naked daughter was sitting on a dirty Wal-Mart bench, but that was the least of my concerns at the time! I was livid the whole time and a nervous wreck on the inside. I got her clothes back on and her socks and shoes. Then I decided to have the two girls trade places and strap her in and put the baby in the cart. This worked much better and I finally calmed down. But I was still shaken up. And if anyone has said anything to me about the incident, I may have gone off the deep end! I was just waiting for someone to say something about my naked daughter in the store! ( I have to laugh now as I write this...it's pretty funny!) I felt bad about the opened package of Strawberry shortcake underwear, but my first thought was to get the situation under control and then get out as soon as possible. I did tell the check out girl about the opened package. She looked at me like I was nuts, but I was just trying to clean up my mess. My daughter understands " No " as she is starting to say it herself, but she just doesn't have enough language to try to get her to understand more complex thoughts. Hopefully the CI will open some communication doors for us because right now it is very difficult to reason with her. She actually does fairly well given her limited hearing as I see a lot of kids out there with perfect hearing her age whose behavior is worse than hers. So I can relate to how you must have felt and having someone who has no idea what you have gone through threaten to call the police must have been awful! I'm glad that you go through the tantrum no worse for wear. And even though the couple was, as I suggested, trying to help in their own way, it too bad that they didn't ask YOU if YOU needed any help rather than threatening to call the police. Someday you will have quite a story to share with your daughter, and she will grow to appreciate everything that you do for her. She's is a lucky little girl to have you and I am sure that you feel blessed to have her!! _____________________ A. Weinzapfel PURCHASING DEPARTMENT UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN INDIANA 812.464.1848 JWEINZAP@... ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wanha Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Yesterday The joke is on that couple because they over reacted. But, at least they cared. And that is good. They were probably scared and concerned which prompted them to say/so what they did. They could have handled things differently, but again at least they cared. Hopefully, when there is a situation that does require some intervention for a child somewhere in the world, there will be a couple like that to " come to the child's rescue " . I am sure that if things had gone so far as to get the police involved the couple would have felt very foolish when it was all explained. Thank goodness for your sake it didn't go that far though! , thank you for getting me to think of them in a different light. Yes, I am glad that there are people out there that care and don't mind getting involved. Because I had distanced myself from her people could have thought she was on her own. Though most did notice that I was watching her and she was watching me. And yet, then once you understood that she was not hurt and was just having a tantrum then back down. But that did not happen. The biggest thing that she said over and over is that she was lying on the floor where people walked and it is dirty there. Even though yes, I understand the floor is dirty-just because yes people walk there, but I ask when did a little dirt hurt someone? Yes, in a different situation I would have told Annika not to lie on the floor because it is dirty but at this moment in time there was no reasoning with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Cheryl, love. I hope I can relieve some of your sorrow by sending you love. Be gentle with your heart. My love to you always,Stefanie>> > Hi Friends and Family,> > Well yesterday was a long and disappointing day. My brother did not have > an abscess. It's a tumor. They took some biopsies. So, it's back to his > cancer doctors in ton now to see about getting it out. This is bad > news, and we are feeling pretty devastated today.> > And on top of that, while my brother was out of the room (thank God), the > lady in the next room died and for 30 minutes we listed to her poor daughter cry > "mama please breathe, please don't die". It had to be the saddest thing I > have ever heard. We all just prayed for the whole time. The lady was > already gone, but I was praying for her daughter and the rest of her family. > > I just feel overcome with sadness this morning.> It's going to be a hard day. At least I think they will let my brother > come home today.> > > > > > > > > Peace, Love, Light, and Joy, Cheryl> > > visit me at: _www.myspace.com/senegalady_ (http://www.myspace.com/senegalady) > > > > "You need to smile to your sorrow because you are more than your sorrow." > Thich Nhat Hanh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot > 5 Travel Deals! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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