Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 my understanding of the cancer and LD connection is this: Lyme disease left untreated will eventually begin manifesting itself as 'cancers' ,parkinson's, MS, lupus,liver,kidney damage,organ damage,heart problems, hearing loss/deafness, eye problems/blindness, brain infection/swelling... the borellia beast can be an underlying cause for the above DX's....hopefully we will be spared of any progression.......cherlyme In a message dated 10/15/00 7:49:57 PM, Burfnturf@... writes: <<can anyone tell me the connection of Lyme and cancer? >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 In a message dated 10/22/00 12:54:47 PM, kimsak2000@... writes: << InfoNymfo@... wrote: my understanding of the cancer and LD connection is this: Lyme disease left untreated will eventually begin manifesting itself as 'cancers' ,parkinson's, MS, lupus,liver,kidney damage,organ damage,heart problems, hearing loss/deafness, eye problems/blindness, brain infection/swelling... the borellia beast can be an underlying cause for the above DX's....hopefully we will be spared of any progression.......c >> I believe they all are the same..... what is MS? what causes it?? for instance. Many people are misdiagnosed every day. Without the CORRECT info, one would just do what the dr. says because after all, they are " God-like " . This is where you as the individual intelligent human being has the ability to do a little research and see if you can find facts to confirm your diagnosis. Just a suggestion because this is a VERY personal story to me; my brother-in-law was misdiagnosed with MS in 1985 and JUST last summer I insisted that he be PROPERLY tested for lyme. He was almost in a wheelchair, now on antibiotics since August, feeling great, no more cane. The following paragraph can be found at : www.cassia.org , then go to the bottom and click on DIAGNOSTICS, then on the next page, click on " When to Suspect Lyme Disease " , then go down about 30 paragraphs and you will see the following......... Many patients are told that they have Multiple Sclerosis (MS) because of brain MRI findings or a spinal tap was positive for oligoclonal bands (OCB) or myelin basic protein (MBP). The medical literature is quite emphatic that MRI does not reliably distinguish between MS an LD because there is too much overlap in their supposedly distinct appearance and location of plaques. Plaques have been detected with both disorders in the brain and spinal cord. OCB's and MBP are non-specific markers for demyelination (loss of sheath around nerves) and do not signify a cause of the demyelination. In Miklossy's study above, senile plaques stained avidly for Bb spirochetes. Marshall reviewed the MD literature in Medical Hypothesis (Vol 25: 89-92, 1988) and advances the notion that LD is causing MS! His survey revealed that multiple studies prior to 1951 were able to demonstrate spirochetes in the spinal fluid of MS patients (by inoculation into animals and on silver stain of CNS tissues). Dr. Coyle has documented the presence of antibodies to Bb in MS patients (Neurology Vol. 39:760-763, 1989). The encephalopathy attributed to MS is very reminiscent of LD. Both MS and LD are associated with sinusitis (Lancet, 1986). Dr. Leigner has reported a case of LD which fulfilled all criteria for MS. The epidemiology of MS and the geographic distribution parallels that of LD. The symptoms of both LD and MS can be aggravated if the patient takes a hot bath. Anecdotally, patients with LD, who previously had been identified as MS, responded to antibiotic therapy. sue in nj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Is this really true? If it is, that is really scary! Is there any info on this subject? if there is can you let me know? Thanks, KIm S in N.Y. InfoNymfo@... wrote: my understanding of the cancer and LD connection is this: Lyme disease left untreated will eventually begin manifesting itself as 'cancers' ,parkinson's, MS,lupus,liver,kidney damage,organ damage,heart problems, hearing loss/deafness, eye problems/blindness, brain infection/swelling... the borellia beast can be an underlying cause for the above DX's....hopefully we will be spared of any progression.......cherlymeIn a message dated 10/15/00 7:49:57 PM, Burfnturf@... writes:<<can anyone tell me the connection of Lyme and cancer?>>Many thanks to our founder and friend, Marta McCoy, for making what it is today.Easy Reference:Send a blank email message to: -Subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email -Unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list -Digestegroups - Switch your subscription to a digest format -Normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normalPlease send messages not related to Lyme disease to -OfftopicegroupsArchives can be accessed at lyme-aidPlease visit the sister site athttp://clubs./clubs/lymeaidThis is the primary chat site for .HAVE A GREAT DAY,kimsak2000@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Do we have actual references to this effect? I would really like to have them if we do.. Thanks. Lainie InfoNymfo@... wrote: my understanding of the cancer and LD connection is this: Lyme disease left untreated will eventually begin manifesting itself as 'cancers' ,parkinson's, MS,lupus,liver,kidney damage,organ damage,heart problems, hearing loss/deafness, eye problems/blindness, brain infection/swelling... the borellia beast can be an underlying cause for the above DX's....hopefully we will be spared of any progression.......cherlymeIn a message dated 10/15/00 7:49:57 PM, Burfnturf@... writes:<<can anyone tell me the connection of Lyme and cancer?>>Many thanks to our founder and friend, Marta McCoy, for making what it is today.Easy Reference:Send a blank email message to: -Subscribeegroups - Subscribe to the list through email -Unsubscribeegroups - Unsubscribe from the list -Digestegroups - Switch your subscription to a digest format -Normalegroups - Switch your subscription to normalPlease send messages not related to Lyme disease to -OfftopicegroupsArchives can be accessed at lyme-aidPlease visit the sister site athttp://clubs./clubs/lymeaidThis is the primary chat site for .HAVE A GREAT DAY,kimsak2000@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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