to vote or not to vote- a different perspective

[Guest guest]

-I ask you, if we are all one, and we truly creating our reality,how

can anything be outside of ourselves?

If politics is power and money, and those things are a part of what

creates our reality by building our roads,creating our schools, making

laws for us to have to follow or face repercussion, how can it be

outside of our reality? Outside of ourselves? If you are not putting

your energy into the vote, are you empowering those who would vote

differently to drastically change your reality while you stand idly

by? Are you planning some other way to change the amount of power they

have on our daily lives, and the lives of all those that are our

future generations?

I realize it is often a choice between 2 evils, but it is " evil " that

can affect everything we do, and take away everything that we have.

This is an evil that we have given power to until we are at the point

of our own destruction, so why not start throwing a little good energy

into it? Why not get as many healers as we know to throw our energy

into the process of breaking down the strength of that evil?

We can not ignore it and make it go away.

If we truly can put our energy into something, and have that energy

magnify and generate out to those of like minds, how could the energy

of voting hurt us? The energy of a prayer as we slip the ticket into

the box? How could it hurt? Couldn't we empower the energy by bringing

someone into office that might make a change for the better?

Couldn't we have the possibility to change the whole world with one

small action?

If even one thing- the processing and growth of corn seeds (biofuels)

that are irradiated and genetically altered(which could change all

corn into genetically altered material) is acheived, it is better than

nothing. This is one of Obama's promises. NO, everything is not as we

would like, but personally I would like to be able to continue

practicing my personal religion, and the use of herbs and vitamin

supplements on a daily basis without having to order them from the

underground network and face criminal charges.

How can I change this without voting when these rights I take for

granted now are taken away?

I guess I am saying, if you are voting for Mccain, go ahead, don't

vote. I personally had a lot of interest in Ron , but not given

the option, I will vote for the lesser of 2 evils. In all past

elections except the last one I voted either green or independent,

thinking that at least I was stating my opinion. However, this last

presidental) one and the one now seem to be way to important to just

state my opinion. The monster has gotten to big, and burning a candle

won't make it go away.

ON another note,

Do you know that the right to jury duty is the peoples right to change

the laws? If you read the true rights of the jurist, and not the ones

that they try to tell you in court, you will find that the statement

concerns not the fact of the law, but the jurors duty is actually to

decide whether that law is appropriate in this case, and to the

situation. This is " we the people " 's " opportunity to change the law,

not just a duty to the state.

Just some thoughts to ponder.

If this discussion is not appropriate, I am sorry to the group, and

will gladly answer any response to my personal email.

Sincerely, Willow

-- In , Randy <jqpublic_59@...> wrote:

>

> sister cheryl; i prefer to stay away from politics and anything

related. I have never done jury duty either. Someones fate i cannot be

a part of and they say every vote counts. Politics is power and money.

It is greed and wars.corruption.i say this from observation not blind

judgement.i am no anarchist lol i simply stay away. If the dalai lama

ran for office then i would vote. With compassion. Randy.

>

[Guest guest]

the paradox. There are plenty political motivated and active healers yet such a

few healing politicians lol. The scale went bonk. Please understand that on my

path and focus i have no place to engage in this activity. I made a mistake of

even opening this can of worms. This is the wrong forum and i admit i jumped

before thinking. Even though i am not active in govt i have never im my life

gottem a ticket nor been in trouble. Perfect citizen by the systems standard. So

saying this i show that i have respect though not direct participation. I end my

politic cackling here and now. My apologies. Randy.

----- Original Message -----

Subject: [] to vote or not to vote- a different perspective

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:56:45

From: wildwindsdancer <wildwindsdancer@...>

< >

-I ask you, if we are all one, and we truly creating our reality,how

can anything be outside of ourselves?

If politics is power and money, and those things are a part of what

creates our reality by building our roads,creating our schools, making

laws for us to have to follow or face repercussion, how can it be

outside of our reality? Outside of ourselves? If you are not putting

your energy into the vote, are you empowering those who would vote

differently to drastically change your reality while you stand idly

by? Are you planning some other way to change the amount of power they

have on our daily lives, and the lives of all those that are our

future generations?

I realize it is often a choice between 2 evils, but it is " evil " that

can affect everything we do, and take away everything that we have.

This is an evil that we have given power to until we are at the point

of our own destruction, so why not start throwing a little good energy

into it? Why not get as many healers as we know to throw our energy

into the process of breaking down the strength of that evil?

We can not ignore it and make it go away.

If we truly can put our energy into something, and have that energy

magnify and generate out to those of like minds, how could the energy

of voting hurt us? The energy of a prayer as we slip the ticket into

the box? How could it hurt? Couldn't we empower the energy by bringing

someone into office that might make a change for the better?

Couldn't we have the possibility to change the whole world with one

small action?

If even one thing- the processing and growth of corn seeds (biofuels)

that are irradiated and genetically altered(which could change all

corn into genetically altered material) is acheived, it is better than

nothing. This is one of Obama's promises. NO, everything is not as we

would like, but personally I would like to be able to continue

practicing my personal religion, and the use of herbs and vitamin

supplements on a daily basis without having to order them from the

underground network and face criminal charges.

How can I change this without voting when these rights I take for

granted now are taken away?

I guess I am saying, if you are voting for Mccain, go ahead, don't

vote. I personally had a lot of interest in Ron , but not given

the option, I will vote for the lesser of 2 evils. In all past

elections except the last one I voted either green or independent,

thinking that at least I was stating my opinion. However, this last

presidental) one and the one now seem to be way to important to just

state my opinion. The monster has gotten to big, and burning a candle

won't make it go away.

ON another note,

Do you know that the right to jury duty is the peoples right to change

the laws? If you read the true rights of the jurist, and not the ones

that they try to tell you in court, you will find that the statement

concerns not the fact of the law, but the jurors duty is actually to

decide whether that law is appropriate in this case, and to the

situation. This is " we the people " 's " opportunity to change the law,

not just a duty to the state.

Just some thoughts to ponder.

If this discussion is not appropriate, I am sorry to the group, and

will gladly answer any response to my personal email.

Sincerely, Willow

-- In , Randy <jqpublic_59@ ...> wrote:

>

> sister cheryl; i prefer to stay away from politics and anything

related. I have never done jury duty either. Someones fate i cannot be

a part of and they say every vote counts. Politics is power and money.

It is greed and wars.corruption. i say this from observation not blind

judgement.i am no anarchist lol i simply stay away. If the dalai lama

ran for office then i would vote. With compassion. Randy.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Willow,I personally think that this discussion is appropriate. Voting will affect us all and if we can slip a little prayer into the voting box to send along with our vote then of course that couldn't hurt. I'll probably be saying something like "May the best candidate win". I do want to say something about the voting lesser of two evils. Did you all know there are actually SIX candidates and not just two? I call them McBama because personally I don't support either one of them. They are the same career agenda-ist rapped up in different packaging. The argument is why should I vote a third party when I know a third party won't win (even if I like the candidate)? Of course you want your vote to count. But the answer to that is, VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE! If everyone voted for who they truly wanted in the white house then the power of the Republicans and Democrats would be spread out to the 3rd parties as well. Things would be more even and there would no longer be a "2 evil" mentality. To vote for someone you don't like as the lesser of 2 evils, just because they have a chance at winning completely negates the point of voting! Willow, Ron has been running a Revolution campaign called Campaign for Liberty. I made a myspace page if you want to join:www.myspace.com/freedomthroughreason(his website)www.campaignforliberty.comHe's not out of it, he's right there along side this whole ride. Bob Barr actually offered Dr. the VP pick for him. I think he turned it down. But I'm thinking about Chuck Baldwin. He's a good friend of Ron , and he's very passionate. A good man. Much more genuine then McBama. You can write me privately if you wish Willow. This is an interesting and touchy topic for sure. Love always,Stefanie> >> > sister cheryl; i prefer to stay away from politics and anything> related. I have never done jury duty either. Someones fate i cannot be> a part of and they say every vote counts. Politics is power and money.> It is greed and wars.corruption.i say this from observation not blind> judgement.i am no anarchist lol i simply stay away. If the dalai lama> ran for office then i would vote. With compassion. Randy.> >>