Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Hello Amy, and others with kidney ston problems. i was Dx'd june of 2000, and from day one I have been taking ALLOPURINOL 300MG , I was told at the time (if I remember this right) that the meds I take for the leukemia have a tendancy to cause kidney stones, and that the allopurinol will help to stop the formong of kidney stones. I have not have any stones to deal with .. and I know that they are so very painful. I hope that you will feel better soon Amy. ( sorry this responce is so late in comming , but I have been off from the computer for over a week, and im just now getting caught up.) Hugs everyone, I have missed > > Hi Everyone! I haven't posted in a while, I've been working and sick > sick sick at the same time. I can't afford to lose my job so I had to > work till I couldn't. I was wondering if anyone has had an increase > in the production of Kidney stones since being diagnosed with CML or > starting Gleevec. I have had three <not fun> since December, and was > in the hospital Friday and Saturday with the last one. My urologist > said that sometimes people with Leukemias produce kidney stones due to > a change in their body chemistry. Hadn't heard that before. If > anyone might be able to shed some light on this I would be grateful. > I will try to be more active in the group if I can stay feeling well. > I'm glad everyone is here and pray for each of you and your families > daily. > > Amy B > cml 4/03 > gleevec 5/03 > CCR 9/03 > 6/04 PCR 0.096 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 > > Hi Everyone, > > I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me? I just got > a script of ldn 3mg. I read where you have to be off opiates for 2 > weeks prior to starting. I am on a very low dose of tylenol #2 with > codiene. When I say low, I mean half a tylenol 2 once or twice a day. > What will happen if I start the ldn tonight? Should I wait 2 weeks? > > Thanks > ======== Possible withdrawal symptoms can occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Thanks for the reply , I spoke with the pharmacist and he said the same thing. I'm not sure how long I have to be codeine free. Does anyone know? Does it matter that it's a very low dose? Take Care --- > > Possible withdrawal symptoms can occur. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 > > Thanks for the reply , I spoke with the pharmacist and he said > the same thing. I'm not sure how long I have to be codeine free. Does > anyone know? Does it matter that it's a very low dose? > > Take Care --- > > > > Possible withdrawal symptoms can occur. > > > > > > > ======= You need to be off of it probably 14 days. If it's an ultra low dose maybe 7 to 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Thanks ! I will aim for later next week :0) Take Care --- > > > > You need to be off of it probably 14 days. If it's an ultra low dose maybe 7 to 10 days. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Hi HW! So glad you are speaking up to say HI! Hope to hear from you more! Hugs, Patty > > i joined months ago but thought I would say hello to everyone tonite. > Rogene, I pray your biopsy goes well and that you will be safe and > healthy. HW. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Thank you Patty. HW > > > > i joined months ago but thought I would say hello to everyone tonite. > > Rogene, I pray your biopsy goes well and that you will be safe and > > healthy. HW. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Hi , I don't think I told you my story in the e-mails that we have exchanged, so I just wanted to let you know that I got sick immediately as well. I had my implants put in on May 10, 2005, and had them removed on November 7, 2005. My anniversary is coming up and I find I'm getting a bit upset, because it has been quite a traumatic year, but once I got the implants out alot of healing began. It takes some people years before they experience problems, but for some people (like us) it happens right away. Some women never seem to get sick from implants, and I'm not sure why that is, but obviously many of us are sensitive to whatever it is the implants are made from, or perhaps our bodies recognize something foreign in our bodies and an immune response takes place, and our bodies just go haywire trying to get rid of the the implants. I don't think you've told me what your symptoms are, but right after I had my surgery, my lymph nodes swelled up, and I had alot of anxiety and fatique. My muscles ached, and I had pains in my feet that I never had before, and pains in my arms and hands. I suddenly had alot of heartburn and digestive issues. About a month after surgery my joints began to swell up, and I had shooting pains throughout my body (especially my head and feet). About 4 months after surgery my joint swelling got really bad, I got dizzy, had daily headaches and I had a hard time concentrating. That's about the time my fingers and toes got numb. I recall there were others who have posted here who didn't have the joint issues, but had the dizziness and headaches. I waited six months to have mine removed, but wish I would have had them out within a month like you are. I think you're smart for recognizing quickly that something is not right and dealing with it before things get worse. One thing you can do for yourself while you await your surgery is take extremely good care of yourself. Drink tons of water if you can, and cut out sugar from your diet. I noticed when I would eat sugar, my symptoms would get worse. I started purchasing extra virgin olive oil, unfiltered, and would put that on my salad, and I also switched to sea salt. Alot of women here switch to organic food as well. I'm not an expert on this topic, but there are some women who have been coming here for years and can probably give you some good advice on how to care for yourself as you await explant. Sis > > I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It is > horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month from now, > but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body was > rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 , You're very fortunate to recognise your problems so early! . . . And to have a surgeon who is supportive! So many tell women it can't possibly be their implants, so they run in circles trying to find out what's wrong. We recommend that women have their implants removed " en bloc " . . . That means removing the capsules with the implants still inside . . . In your case, your capsule may not have had time to form. Nevertheless, tell your surgeon that you want every last bit of capsule removed if it has formed. Do take very good care of yourself in the meantime. . .. Oil of Oregano and raw, crushed, fresh garlic are both natural antibiotics/antifungals and antioxidents. I'd suggest trying them to see if you can put your symptoms on hold until you can have your implants removed. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Well, when I got them in, everyone said, oh your symptoms are fine. Well every night I had bad sweats, and they said it was the pain medicine, but I have been on that pain medicine before and it never made me like that. I can barely eat anything, I really don't have an appetite. My mouth is constantly dry and I drink tons of water. My body is weak, and I realize I just had surgery, but come on, not being able to even take care of my own body 7 days afterward. My surgeon is being very supportive. I go back in on Tuesday to remove my stitches, but I am still trying to see if I can have them out sooner than a month. I am having such anxiety and I am wishing I could just go back to last week and never have had it done. He is saying there is a chance of infection because of them being taken out so soon, but it seems to me it would be better to have them out before any king of pocket was made and the implant settled. I am going to beg and plead and ask if I can start antibiotics right away to help with infection. I think everything will work out fine, it is just being a wreck for the next couple of weeks waiting and waiting. I am crying non stop and kicking myself in the butt everyday. Thank you for the support, it is much appreciated. --- In , " auntsisnj " <auntsisnj@...> wrote: > > Hi , > > I don't think I told you my story in the e-mails that we have > exchanged, so I just wanted to let you know that I got sick > immediately as well. I had my implants put in on May 10, 2005, and > had them removed on November 7, 2005. My anniversary is coming up and > I find I'm getting a bit upset, because it has been quite a traumatic > year, but once I got the implants out alot of healing began. It takes > some people years before they experience problems, but for some people > (like us) it happens right away. Some women never seem to get sick > from implants, and I'm not sure why that is, but obviously many of us > are sensitive to whatever it is the implants are made from, or perhaps > our bodies recognize something foreign in our bodies and an immune > response takes place, and our bodies just go haywire trying to get rid > of the the implants. I don't think you've told me what your symptoms > are, but right after I had my surgery, my lymph nodes swelled up, and > I had alot of anxiety and fatique. My muscles ached, and I had pains > in my feet that I never had before, and pains in my arms and hands. I > suddenly had alot of heartburn and digestive issues. About a month > after surgery my joints began to swell up, and I had shooting pains > throughout my body (especially my head and feet). About 4 months > after surgery my joint swelling got really bad, I got dizzy, had daily > headaches and I had a hard time concentrating. That's about the time > my fingers and toes got numb. I recall there were others who have > posted here who didn't have the joint issues, but had the dizziness > and headaches. I waited six months to have mine removed, but wish I > would have had them out within a month like you are. I think you're > smart for recognizing quickly that something is not right and dealing > with it before things get worse. > > One thing you can do for yourself while you await your surgery is take > extremely good care of yourself. Drink tons of water if you can, and > cut out sugar from your diet. I noticed when I would eat sugar, my > symptoms would get worse. I started purchasing extra virgin olive > oil, unfiltered, and would put that on my salad, and I also switched > to sea salt. Alot of women here switch to organic food as well. I'm > not an expert on this topic, but there are some women who have been > coming here for years and can probably give you some good advice on > how to care for yourself as you await explant. > > Sis > > > > > --- In , " emilyimplant " <ero14@> wrote: > > > > I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It is > > horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month from > now, > > but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body was > > rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Yes, we do have women whose bodies simply reject implants, and it is better that it happens sooner than to go for years as symptoms build up. Your case is not unusual, but more likely it takes a few months to several years. Lynda At 05:55 AM 5/7/2006, you wrote: >I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It is >horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month from now, >but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body was >rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, >Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: ><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\ m/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 , My heart aches for you my dear. I wish you didn't have to go through this. I wish we all didn't have to go through this. I had mine in for six years, my body became weaker and weaking unknowingly during that time. Eventually, I had body weakness and pain so severe I couldn't keep my job or go to my nursing classes. I wish I could have had an immediant reaction, so the doctors would believe me, that it was my implants making me sick. I know this is nothing like you dreamed it would be and for that I am truley sorry. Please stay with us and let us help you through this difficult time. You are in my prayers, emilyimplant <ero14@...> wrote: Well, when I got them in, everyone said, oh your symptoms are fine. Well every night I had bad sweats, and they said it was the pain medicine, but I have been on that pain medicine before and it never made me like that. I can barely eat anything, I really don't have an appetite. My mouth is constantly dry and I drink tons of water. My body is weak, and I realize I just had surgery, but come on, not being able to even take care of my own body 7 days afterward. My surgeon is being very supportive. I go back in on Tuesday to remove my stitches, but I am still trying to see if I can have them out sooner than a month. I am having such anxiety and I am wishing I could just go back to last week and never have had it done. He is saying there is a chance of infection because of them being taken out so soon, but it seems to me it would be better to have them out before any king of pocket was made and the implant settled. I am going to beg and plead and ask if I can start antibiotics right away to help with infection. I think everything will work out fine, it is just being a wreck for the next couple of weeks waiting and waiting. I am crying non stop and kicking myself in the butt everyday. Thank you for the support, it is much appreciated. > >> > I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It is > > horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month from > now, > > but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body was > > rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks> >> goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 , I can understand how miserable and upset you must feel. HOWEVER, one of the worst things for our health is stress! . . . Even know, twelve years after being explanted, I get sick all over again if I allow myself to stress over things. . . It requres some mental gymnastics . . . everyone must find their own way. . . Meditating, praying, walking, music, rationalizing, exercising . . . the list goes on and on. . . What do you really enjoy doing? . . . Find as much time for that as you can . . . Even if you don't feel up to doing it physically, find some videos/books, etc. that can put you in a relaxed frame of mind. I know you're sick . . . but if you continue to stress, you can make yourself sicker! And you don't need that. Everything will work out . . . hopefully sooner rather than later. . . But, for now, find you inner peace . . . God will take care of the rest! Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Hi - I really feel for you too. I have felt that way too - if I could just turn back the clock. The one good thing, as Rogene pointed out, at least you got sick right away and you KNOW it was from the implants. It took me years of pain to figure it out. I am six months out from explant, and it has taken all of that six months to really notice significant improvement (I had them for almost nine years). Try to stay calm so you can make good decisions. God bless, and we will all help to get you through this nightmare. Cherie > > > > > > I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It is > > > horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month from > > now, > > > but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body > was > > > rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Thank you to everyone. I actually came on here this morning because I had a very very bad night. I could not stay asleep for more than an hour at a time. My back was killing me and I was having crazy dreams. My mouth has this taste to it that I can not explain, and no matter how much water I drink it is still there. I can not stand this. I want to rip them out of my chest. I know that I have work and school today to help me get my mind off, but I can't help but think to myself that my doc wants me to wait a month to have them taken out because he thinks after they drop and look normal, I am going to want them. I go tomorrow and I will keep you posted. Thank you for the support. > > > > > > > > I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It > is > > > > horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month > from > > > now, > > > > but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body > > was > > > > rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 , I think you're right about your doctor! . . . Please insist that he remove your implants ASAP! . . . It's ridiculous to make you wait when you're suffering so badly! Hugs, Rogene --- emilyimplant <ero14@...> wrote: > Thank you to everyone. I actually came on here this > morning because > I had a very very bad night. I could not stay asleep > for more than > an hour at a time. My back was killing me and I was > having crazy > dreams. My mouth has this taste to it that I can not > explain, and no > matter how much water I drink it is still there. I > can not stand > this. I want to rip them out of my chest. I know > that I have work > and school today to help me get my mind off, but I > can't help but > think to myself that my doc wants me to wait a month > to have them > taken out because he thinks after they drop and look > normal, I am > going to want them. I go tomorrow and I will keep > you posted. Thank > you for the support. > > > > > > > > > > > Hi , > > > > > > > > I don't think I told you my story in the > e-mails that we have > > > > exchanged, so I just wanted to let you know > that I got sick > > > > immediately as well. I had my implants put in > on May 10, > 2005, > > > and > > > > had them removed on November 7, 2005. My > anniversary is > coming > > up > > > and > > > > I find I'm getting a bit upset, because it has > been quite a > > > traumatic > > > > year, but once I got the implants out alot of > healing began. > It > > > takes > > > > some people years before they experience > problems, but for > some > > > people > > > > (like us) it happens right away. Some women > never seem to get > > > sick > > > > from implants, and I'm not sure why that is, > but obviously > many > > of > > > us > > > > are sensitive to whatever it is the implants > are made from, or > > > perhaps > > > > our bodies recognize something foreign in our > bodies and an > > immune > > > > response takes place, and our bodies just go > haywire trying to > > get > > > rid > > > > of the the implants. I don't think you've > told me what your > > > symptoms > > > > are, but right after I had my surgery, my > lymph nodes swelled > > up, > > > and > > > > I had alot of anxiety and fatique. My muscles > ached, and I > had > > > pains > > > > in my feet that I never had before, and pains > in my arms and > > > hands. I > > > > suddenly had alot of heartburn and digestive > issues. About a > > > month > > > > after surgery my joints began to swell up, and > I had shooting > > > pains > > > > throughout my body (especially my head and > feet). About 4 > > months > > > > after surgery my joint swelling got really > bad, I got dizzy, > had > > > daily > > > > headaches and I had a hard time concentrating. > That's about > the > > > time > > > > my fingers and toes got numb. I recall there > were others who > > have > > > > posted here who didn't have the joint issues, > but had the > > > dizziness > > > > and headaches. I waited six months to have > mine removed, but > > wish > > > I > > > > would have had them out within a month like > you are. I think > > > you're > > > > smart for recognizing quickly that something > is not right and > > > dealing > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 --- You hit more than the nail on the head, Rogene! Thank God I have grandchildren to play with, otherwise my stress level would be sky high! The other day my daughter-in-law and I and - 6 and Emmma - 3 (special needs) were travelling back from the city after a long hard, hot day of shopping. Emma was acting out terribly and screaming alot so we all decided to join in. In 5 minutes we were all laughing so hard, I had to pull over to use a washroom!! lol You're right, Rogene, whatever it takes - I've been watching a video by a female comedian - her name escapes me at the moment - it's called the Joy of Stress - it's hilarious - I hadn't laughed out loud for that long for awhile! Take care of yourselves, take a nurturing bath, and don't forget to BREATHE!! Love 'n Peace, Sunny In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > > , > > I can understand how miserable and upset you must > feel. > > HOWEVER, one of the worst things for our health is > stress! . . . Even know, twelve years after being > explanted, I get sick all over again if I allow myself > to stress over things. . . > > It requres some mental gymnastics . . . everyone must > find their own way. . . Meditating, praying, walking, > music, rationalizing, exercising . . . the list goes > on and on. . . What do you really enjoy doing? . . . > Find as much time for that as you can . . . Even if > you don't feel up to doing it physically, find some > videos/books, etc. that can put you in a relaxed frame > of mind. > > I know you're sick . . . but if you continue to > stress, you can make yourself sicker! And you don't > need that. Everything will work out . . . hopefully > sooner rather than later. . . But, for now, find you > inner peace . . . God will take care of the rest! > > Hugs and prayers, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 HI , Yes, unfortunately we have. Some women just can' t seem to handle the implants from day one. I hope you can get them out soon. The sooner the better, although there are no guarantees. Hopefully your body will view this as just a hiccup and get over it quickly. I knew a woman from New York who had her implants for only 4 months and she became very ill with autoimmune symptoms. She got them out quickly, but the doctor left the scar tissue inside her. She did not heal. She ended up going to Dr. Feng for the scar tissue removal, and surprisingly, even though she had her implants for only 4 months, she actually did have scar tissue left that could be seen and needed to be removed. You wouldn't think that in 4 months there could be that much scar tissue, but there was. Everyone is different. Just don't get too whacked out about it, as stress will be very bad for your health. Just breathe, relax, and get on the phone to get your surgery scheduled with a good doctor as soon as you can. Let us know what is going on. We care, Hugs, Pattyemilyimplant <ero14@...> wrote: I am new here. I am 7 days post op and feeling like hell. It is horrible. I am having to have my implants removed one month from now, but trying to talk doc into sooner. He even said that my body was rejecting them. Has anyone ever had it this fast before? Thanks goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 I did emily however my doctor won't admit to me that my body rejected I wish he did. Feel lucky girl you have a good PS mine sucked. I wish to God he would not have left me for dead I have been sick from day one with the symptoms getting bigger and worse daily. I am one year and 3 months post. I just wondered what are some of your symptoms so maybe ours might match up since mine happened early on too??? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hi Everyone, Hope everyone had a good summer. Have not had time to post here much because of working so much. Work is slowing down now. (finally) Sorry for the hardships many of you are still facing. Welcome to all the new members. This is a great place to be. Lots of info. For those who remember me, I'll give you a brief update. My daughter started school again. The school went in this time before she started. Cleaned up the school, upgraded to Merv 11's, basically did everything they needed to. Got clearance. She has not missed a day, or been sick since school started. First time since 2001. If we can make it until January, it will be 1 year since she was hospitalized. YAAAHHHHOOOOOO My son (different school/this is the school we had all problems w/for the past 3 years) has been well also, since school started. We got his school cleaned up last year if you remember. They followed the protocol, cleaned, changed the air filters every month for 6 months, had clearance done before school started. They also switched to Merv 11's and change them now every 2-3 months. So he should be good to. Both schools will have an inspection done in January to ensure no problems are found. Finally, my kids are safe at school. Well, as safe as we can make it. We have come a long way since 2001. But, we couldn't have done it without the help of this group. We have made some good friends, and gotten wonderful information. I hope that this group helps everyone as much as it has helped us. Thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Lovely poem laura! Thanks so much for sharing. So true that the constant fatigue, bills*, headaches, and chemo side effects can really take a toll on our good humor and stir up depressing thoughts. It is so important to have community, and this group is wonderful source of information and support. It has been a hard couple of weeks here too and I plan on doing better with living for today! Thanks, Rhonda Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [ ] Hi Everyone It has been a few weeks since I posted. So much has gone wrong in the last month for my family! One thing right after the other....Four weeks ago I took my son and dropped him off at Bellermine University,(so of course I have empty nest and have been kinda depressed)two days later our air quit on our trailor. It cost 129 dollars for someone to come out and tell us it was actually going to cost over $1700 to fix it! We did'nt even have the $129 to begin with....soooo I went out and bought window fans. I cannot take the Sprycel while it is getting up to almost 100 degree's inside so I have been off of it for a month! Well about a week later our car broke down, so now we drive it only when nessacary and hope and pray it doesnt die. Then two weeks later (last weekend) Ike blew thru Texas and visited Kentucky!! Our trailor has about $6000 dollars worth of damage. We went without power or water for about 24 hours. But you know it coulda been alot worse! A neighbor had their whole roof torn off, my son went without power for about 4 days and Texas is still suffering. I am just grateful to God that we still have a roof over our heads and food! Anyway I said all that to kind of lay the ground work for why I wrote what I am about to post. From time to time I get words in my head and they just seem to burst out onto paper. I write pro's and some poetry. Usually it is when I am kind of depressed...(you know that artist thing goin on..lol) I start writing and it is very therapuetic, by the time I am done I usually feel alot better. I don't usually share alot of my writing but this one I would like to share....I hope you enjoy and I am sorry all this is so long! Hugs, Katy ps....sorry about some of the spelling, I may not know how to spell it but I DO know how to use it..lol Traveling This road so weary and worn............ My heart unravels broken and torn......... I'm sick, I'm tired, I'm down and out... Like a farmer after a long hard drought..... Anguish and despair fill my soul....... CML carries it's very own set of woe's....... We carry a burden so heavey and sad....... Regreting what we have left behind..... Or maybe just never had......... The rain pours a cold hard mist........ We search blindly in the darkness and Stumble upon a list........ Full of knowledge and caring concern...... Strangers meeting in uncertainty...... Falling into one anothers virtual arms..... Comforting and calling and sharing our pain..... The fog of confusion begins to fade..... Drops of golden sun filter into our minds..... Lush green umbrella's formed of tree's.... Spring into existence...... They fill us with hope..... People coming together as one....... Our hearts start to sing....... Home come's into view...... Suddenly it no longer matters...... How battered and beaten our bodies appear....... Our spirits soar as our burdens are lifted by unseen hands..... We are loved and comforted by fellow man....... Who are we to say...... That maybe, just maybe that was not what He had in mind...... That it was not exactly God's plan....... To open us up, and make us see...... That we cannot make it alone....it has to be......You and Me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 That was a great poem. It's so perfect. I know that I Love being able to talk to all of these people that know what my Granny is going through on a day to day basis. [ ] Hi Everyone It has been a few weeks since I posted. So much has gone wrong in the last month for my family! One thing right after the other....Four weeks ago I took my son and dropped him off at Bellermine University,(so of course I have empty nest and have been kinda depressed)two days later our air quit on our trailor. It cost 129 dollars for someone to come out and tell us it was actually going to cost over $1700 to fix it! We did'nt even have the $129 to begin with....soooo I went out and bought window fans. I cannot take the Sprycel while it is getting up to almost 100 degree's inside so I have been off of it for a month! Well about a week later our car broke down, so now we drive it only when nessacary and hope and pray it doesnt die. Then two weeks later (last weekend) Ike blew thru Texas and visited Kentucky!! Our trailor has about $6000 dollars worth of damage. We went without power or water for about 24 hours. But you know it coulda been alot worse! A neighbor had their whole roof torn off, my son went without power for about 4 days and Texas is still suffering. I am just grateful to God that we still have a roof over our heads and food! Anyway I said all that to kind of lay the ground work for why I wrote what I am about to post. From time to time I get words in my head and they just seem to burst out onto paper. I write pro's and some poetry. Usually it is when I am kind of depressed...(you know that artist thing goin on..lol) I start writing and it is very therapuetic, by the time I am done I usually feel alot better. I don't usually share alot of my writing but this one I would like to share....I hope you enjoy and I am sorry all this is so long! Hugs, Katy ps....sorry about some of the spelling, I may not know how to spell it but I DO know how to use it..lol Traveling This road so weary and worn............ My heart unravels broken and torn......... I'm sick, I'm tired, I'm down and out... Like a farmer after a long hard drought..... Anguish and despair fill my soul....... CML carries it's very own set of woe's....... We carry a burden so heavey and sad....... Regreting what we have left behind..... Or maybe just never had......... The rain pours a cold hard mist........ We search blindly in the darkness and Stumble upon a list........ Full of knowledge and caring concern...... Strangers meeting in uncertainty...... Falling into one anothers virtual arms..... Comforting and calling and sharing our pain..... The fog of confusion begins to fade..... Drops of golden sun filter into our minds..... Lush green umbrella's formed of tree's.... Spring into existence...... They fill us with hope..... People coming together as one....... Our hearts start to sing....... Home come's into view...... Suddenly it no longer matters...... How battered and beaten our bodies appear....... Our spirits soar as our burdens are lifted by unseen hands..... We are loved and comforted by fellow man....... Who are we to say...... That maybe, just maybe that was not what He had in mind...... That it was not exactly God's plan....... To open us up, and make us see...... That we cannot make it alone....it has to be......You and Me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 It's time for me to report for time again smiles I just can't figure out am I asleep and there awake or am I awake and there asleep ? why do they have the same clothes on and say the same things to the same people this is weird Mr. Captain could you try and pokey why I am aware of the repition and they aren't ? it's weird for me so not sure if you want to know Thankyou love me<3Tell me and I'll forget Show me and I may remember Involve me and I'll understandsending healing and soulful messages from the angels of mystic I'm following the rainbow of love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 ummmmm, you might have to add a little more information. My heads full of several books I've been reading and tons of information myself so have a lot of channels open, as well as my own experimenting/experiencing. Let me give you some explanations from an astral sense... Most believe that when they astral project, it is if they have first acquired such ability, so assume they have failed when they don't remember doing so. Then, if they do, they assume they have had only that experience they remember. You project every single night, whenever you sleep, period. Everyone does. And it is not a mere projection of the astral body into an astral realm. What happens is that the sub-conscious projects a mirror into the etheric[sp] body, or double. From here it projects itself into the astral body, another mirror, or double. If any one of them turn and look back at the double, it is like looking into infinity, like a mirror image forever. If we project consciously, it is into the etheric body, or real time, which then projects a double into the " astral plane proper " . The astral plane has 7 levels...they all do actually...but the lower of it is why people who die and don't realize it for a period of time. Everything is in real time, yet somehow different. You could say there is any number of levels or dimensions all the way to " heaven " , as some might call it, and to other places...all 7 levels each. Each body doubles into the next level or dimension. Each body has, and takes with it it's own set of thoughts, memories, exact copies of the original body/mind/conscious, of us. Once projected and doubled...the double carries own from that one recording a whole new set of experiences...and it brings all of it back to the memory banks within " our " sub-consciousness upon waking...as the, all the bodies and doubles re-merge...only the prevailing memories will be " remembered " upon waking...and then only if you are conscious at the time, not to be confused with dreams, which happen at the first level [no projection of the real time consciousness]. If one, usually in meditation, and practice, can remain conscious and alert, and experience each double's own separate consciousness, we feel it as real till we look back upon the projecting body at that level, at which time we experience BOTH as us at the same time, with two sets of experiences. I'm not clear on the number of levels or dimensions beyond the astral, but we do operate there as well, and in each and everyone of them, we are doing work for that vibration and dimension. I have thought on this and believe that it might possibly work in reverse on birth. We drop down by dimension one by one till we drop into the baby to be born...the body of 3d experience. Of course, there's no heaven or hells to speak of, just levels, dimensions of higher vibration as we learn and experience. So, the short answer is that your not asleep anywhere, only do or don't experience that you are always vibrating and doing something in the universe. And only the human body needs rest, yet, the conscious is always active and about it's business, your business. As one becomes aware of these dimensions and vibrations, there can be " bleed " or a " coming together " , access to the memory storage of the whole being. We as human experience and re-member...yet, it's actually re-experiencing, not true memory...it's happening at the same time [in time]. I'm not sure I explained anything helpful but leans towards the understanding of vibrations you may be experiencing. I posted a couple books related to that somewhere recently. With Love, D~ --- In , GENTLE WHISPERS <jsm2224@...> wrote: > > It's time for me to report for time again smiles I just can't figure out am I asleep and there awake or am I awake and there asleep ? why do they have the same clothes on and say the same things to the same people this is weird Mr. Captain could you try and pokey why I am aware of the repition and they aren't ? it's weird for me so not sure if you want to know > Thankyou love me<3 > > > > > > Tell me and I'll forget > Show me and I may remember > Involve me and I'll understand > > > sending healing and soulful messages > from the angels of mystic > I'm following the rainbow of love > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Honey, you know I have been there. Just remember our blood families, we are born in, are for experiences that we need to learn or teach. After a time period (depends upon each person), we have to realize, we can't teach them. People can come into our lives, just for a lesson and leave. But our Spiritual Family is with us forever. Lots of Love and Light, Joy [ ] Hi Everyone Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 11:02 AM Things are changing so quickly around here , that I was thinking of droping all groups. Things just are not right here. I feel used and because of who I am , I can't stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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