Re: Source for Andrographis

[Guest guest]

These are the standardized brands that Buhner reccommends for

Andrographis:

400 mg tablets: Nature's Way

400 mg tablets: Paradise Herbs

400 mg tablets: Planetary Formulas Full Spectrum

This info came from Planet Thrive, where you can ask Buhner directly

about his protocol:

http://www.planetthrive.com/

BB/Ellen

>

> HI - I have recently started Buhner's after months of antiobiotic.

> I feel that specifcally the Resveratol (Source Naturals) and

> Andrograhis are helping. The only source or " standardized "

> andrographis is coming from my Lyme Doc by Xymogen

> called " Virographics " however, at the dosage I am building to it is

> very expensive. Have searched to find other alternatives since

> Buhner's book doesn't recommend any specific brand for " standardized " .

>

> I see alot of people are taking this so was wondering what sources

> they are using - Thank you so much!

>

[Guest guest]

I took Standardized Andro a while back and felt it made me feel worse, as in

getting worse. While it is possible herx could have increased temporarily, since

I started on bulk Andro that I brew like a coffee with the other 3 herbs in the

protocal, I have felt much improvement. My conclusion is that Standardized

extracts are easier for spiroceates to get around than the more complex chem of

the whole herb. Bulk is fresher, cheaper and more effective in my experience

than most prepared capsules.

The one thing slowing my improvement is the need to remove fillings due to

elevated mercury that hit my like bricks after antibiotic treatment. Once that

is done I hope to see even more improvements on the herbs.

Rick V

[ ] Re: Source for Andrographis

These are the standardized brands that Buhner reccommends for

Andrographis:

400 mg tablets: Nature's Way

400 mg tablets: Paradise Herbs

400 mg tablets: Planetary Formulas Full Spectrum

This info came from Planet Thrive, where you can ask Buhner directly

about his protocol:

http://www.planetthrive.com/

BB/Ellen

>

> HI - I have recently started Buhner's after months of antiobiotic.

> I feel that specifcally the Resveratol (Source Naturals) and

> Andrograhis are helping. The only source or " standardized "

> andrographis is coming from my Lyme Doc by Xymogen

> called " Virographics " however, at the dosage I am building to it is

> very expensive. Have searched to find other alternatives since

> Buhner's book doesn't recommend any specific brand for " standardized " .

>

> I see alot of people are taking this so was wondering what sources

> they are using - Thank you so much!

>

[Guest guest]

Where did you get the bulk andrographis?

Thanks, Sheryl

>

> I took Standardized Andro a while back and felt it made me feel worse, as in

getting

worse. While it is possible herx could have increased temporarily, since I

started on bulk

Andro that I brew like a coffee with the other 3 herbs in the protocal, I have

felt much

improvement. My conclusion is that Standardized extracts are easier for

spiroceates to

get around than the more complex chem of the whole herb. Bulk is fresher,

cheaper and

more effective in my experience than most prepared capsules.

> The one thing slowing my improvement is the need to remove fillings due to

elevated

mercury that hit my like bricks after antibiotic treatment. Once that is done I

hope to see

even more improvements on the herbs.

> Rick V

[Guest guest]

I order from 1st Chinese Herbs online. While it is not organic, it is from a

reputable chinese company Plum Flower. I want to order organic herbs from India,

but I cannot find a supplier in the US.

Rick

From: skmackie <skmackie@...>

Date: 2008/08/25 Mon AM 01:31:40 CDT

Subject: [ ] Re: Source for Andrographis

Where did you get the bulk andrographis?

Thanks, Sheryl

>

> I took Standardized Andro a while back and felt it made me feel worse, as in

getting

worse. While it is possible herx could have increased temporarily, since I

started on bulk

Andro that I brew like a coffee with the other 3 herbs in the protocal, I have

felt much

improvement. My conclusion is that Standardized extracts are easier for

spiroceates to

get around than the more complex chem of the whole herb. Bulk is fresher,

cheaper and

more effective in my experience than most prepared capsules.

> The one thing slowing my improvement is the need to remove fillings due to

elevated

mercury that hit my like bricks after antibiotic treatment. Once that is done I

hope to see

even more improvements on the herbs.

> Rick V

[Guest guest]

I am concerned about sourcing Indian and Chinese herbs. There was just

news out that ayurvedic medicines, particularly those made in the

U.S>!, but also India, are contaminated with heavy metals.

Since so much from China lately has been of questionable quality, I

worry about the herbs. We have no quality control and only verbal

reassurances.

> >

> > I took Standardized Andro a while back and felt it made me feel

worse, as in getting

> worse. While it is possible herx could have increased temporarily,

since I started on bulk

> Andro that I brew like a coffee with the other 3 herbs in the

protocal, I have felt much

> improvement. My conclusion is that Standardized extracts are easier

for spiroceates to

> get around than the more complex chem of the whole herb. Bulk is

fresher, cheaper and

> more effective in my experience than most prepared capsules.

> > The one thing slowing my improvement is the need to remove

fillings due to elevated

> mercury that hit my like bricks after antibiotic treatment. Once

that is done I hope to see

> even more improvements on the herbs.

> > Rick V

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know of a source for organic bulk andographis?

Also what are good sources for high quality Resveratrol and cats claw.?

Thanks for any info. I just got the book " Healing Lyme " and am at step

one with this.

Carol

[Guest guest]

I dont know how pure they are but I buy ayurvedic herbs from

banyanbotanicals.com

Pramila

[ ] Re: Source for Andrographis

I am concerned about sourcing Indian and Chinese herbs. There was just

news out that ayurvedic medicines, particularly those made in the

U.S>!, but also India, are contaminated with heavy metals.

Since so much from China lately has been of questionable quality, I

worry about the herbs. We have no quality control and only verbal

reassurances.

> >

> > I took Standardized Andro a while back and felt it made me feel

worse, as in getting

> worse. While it is possible herx could have increased temporarily,

since I started on bulk

> Andro that I brew like a coffee with the other 3 herbs in the

protocal, I have felt much

> improvement. My conclusion is that Standardized extracts are easier

for spiroceates to

> get around than the more complex chem of the whole herb. Bulk is

fresher, cheaper and

> more effective in my experience than most prepared capsules.

> > The one thing slowing my improvement is the need to remove

fillings due to elevated

> mercury that hit my like bricks after antibiotic treatment. Once

that is done I hope to see

> even more improvements on the herbs.

> > Rick V

>

[Guest guest]

I talked to 1stchineseherbs.com yesterday and they told me that for lyme I need

to get a

standardized resveratrol (Japanese knotweed) because now it is known which

herbal

component is effective. They are pills. What I bought was: (SN1011)

Resveratrol

Standardized 10mg - 500mg Hu Zhang. I talked to Sara and she was extremely

knowledegable.

I believe they also have cat's claw but I got that from mountainroseherbs.com.

I've been

taking cat's claw and sarsaparilla in capsule form and they have not done

anything

beneficial that I can tell. Another woman had this to say about it:

With the Cat's Claw, I've been through the course of RainTree

> Nutrition's powdered Cats Claw and after seeing some LLMDs, I've found

> that Allergy Research Group's liquid prima una de gato (higher

> concentration tao-free cats claw) works much better. The cheapest i've

> found is on www.vitacost.com for $25.

The things that have helped me so far are the lyme formula from kwbotanicals and

application of Everclear to the areas of my head that are swollen or hurting.

Sheryl

>

>

> Does anyone know of a source for organic bulk andographis?

>

> Also what are good sources for high quality Resveratrol and cats claw.?

>

> Thanks for any info. I just got the book " Healing Lyme " and am at step

> one with this.

>

> Carol

>

[Guest guest]

Also, a cup of eleuthero tea each day really has helped my energy level.

>

>

> Does anyone know of a source for organic bulk andographis?

>

> Also what are good sources for high quality Resveratrol and cats claw.?

>

> Thanks for any info. I just got the book " Healing Lyme " and am at step

> one with this.

>

> Carol

>

[Guest guest]

Got my herbs and resveratrol from 1shchineseherbs today. The resveratrol they

sent me

was Source Naturals so you might as well save some money and get it somewhere

else.

> >

> >

> > Does anyone know of a source for organic bulk andographis?

> >

> > Also what are good sources for high quality Resveratrol and cats claw.?

> >

> > Thanks for any info. I just got the book " Healing Lyme " and am at step

> > one with this.

> >

> > Carol

> >

>