Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Wow Jo, that is wonderful that you no longer test positive for Lyme! Re your question - I took Artemisinin and boneset tea for babesia. [i diagnosed myself with Babesia - I had awful drenching night sweats] The sweats disappeared after a week. I was surprised the remedies worked so quickly. Hope you have very good results also. ellen In , wyomin@... wrote: > > I got my IGeneX test results back today. Now I test positive for > Babesia. I'll be reviewing Buhner's recommendations of course, but any > suggestions or comments are welcome. I have not focused my attention on > the co-infections, figuring I'd 'cross that bridge when I got to it.' > Well, I'm now at that bridge! lol! > > > I no longer test positive for lyme (after 9 months of treatment) though > I know a negative is not definitive. It's still nice to have after > testing positive a year ago. jo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 > > I'm interested in hearing what treatments people ahve used for babesia. > I reviewed Buhner. He recommends artimisin for 30 to 40 days. Does that > mean one can rid oneself of it within that length of time? jo Hello Jo, >On Planet Thrive, he recommends cryptolepis, again for a short period. He also gives sources, if that's any use to you, Best Wishes, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Ellen, artemisinin knocks pretty many of the babesia bugs but it doesn't get all. If you had babesia and knocked yours only with this week or art + boneset, you'll be the first one I hear of. Watch out for symptoms, babesia symptoms change very much EVERY time you attack it. I never got night sweats again after using artemisinin first time, but started having day hot flushes, for example [in my first babesial infection]. You got to wait about 2 weeks to see symptoms coming back. It's a tough bug to get rid of. That's why I put my two protocols here that worked for me in middle term [first and second babesial infection]. I have never seen anyone with lyme catches babesia so fast, in less than a month. If it happens, let us all know!! Maybe the boneset + artemisinin do make miracles?? Did you use high dose art or low dose art? Selma > > Wow Jo, that is wonderful that you no longer test positive for Lyme! > > Re your question - I took Artemisinin and boneset tea for babesia. [i > diagnosed myself with Babesia - I had awful drenching night sweats] > > The sweats disappeared after a week. I was surprised the remedies > worked so quickly. Hope you have very good results also. > > ellen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Hi Selma, yes, I may still have Babesia, as my temperature fluctuates during the day, not so much as to be unbearable, but enough to notice. But then that may just be me. I took the dose of Art that Buhner recommends, 100 mg, 3X day, for 40 days. ellen > > Ellen, artemisinin knocks pretty many of the babesia bugs but it > doesn't get all. If you had babesia and knocked yours only with this > week or art + boneset, you'll be the first one I hear of. > > Watch out for symptoms, babesia symptoms change very much EVERY time > you attack it. I never got night sweats again after using artemisinin > first time, but started having day hot flushes, for example [in my > first babesial infection]. > > You got to wait about 2 weeks to see symptoms coming back. It's a > tough bug to get rid of. That's why I put my two protocols here that > worked for me in middle term [first and second babesial infection]. > > I have never seen anyone with lyme catches babesia so fast, in less > than a month. If it happens, let us all know!! > > Maybe the boneset + artemisinin do make miracles?? Did you use high > dose art or low dose art? > > Selma > > > > > > Wow Jo, that is wonderful that you no longer test positive for Lyme! > > > > Re your question - I took Artemisinin and boneset tea for babesia. > [i > > diagnosed myself with Babesia - I had awful drenching night sweats] > > > > The sweats disappeared after a week. I was surprised the remedies > > worked so quickly. Hope you have very good results also. > > > > ellen > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 > > > > Funny Ellen! Maybe you should stop drinking coffee? So you get cold > > with coffee, if I understood well? > > > > So you possibly really got rid of babesia with the combo artemisinin + > > red root!!! Are you on red root still? > > > > Selma > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Just my thoughts, but when I used to smoke back in the 60's I drank a lot of coffee, evrey day. When I quit in 1970, I HAD to quit coffee too as I got so wired I couldn't stand it. A few years later I started drinking ONLY decaf. ANd only ONE cup of that in the morning. A few cups of that and I was really feeling it too. Now I have just one cup for breadfast about 360 days a year. The other five, I miss maybe one day and have a cup of the real stuff the other 4 days. I NEED the one cup in the morning, but all that decaf can really get me feeling bad. You might rethink drinking " real " coffee IF you still have Lyme. Jim. ### carolyntriance <carolyntriance@...> wrote: >Hi Ellen, My raging hot flushes and sweats get worse with coffee too, and like you, I find it hard to give up altogether, as it does give me a much-needed energy boost. I've never tried it with yoga tea though!, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 > >Hi Ellen, > My raging hot flushes and sweats get worse with coffee too, and like > you, I find it hard to give up altogether, as it does give me a > much-needed energy boost. I've never tried it with yoga tea though!, > Carolyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Hi Jim, just a suggestion, and you probably already are aware. Organic coffee is a " Must " , because coffee is one of the most heavily sprayed crops on the planet (along with cotton, which is rotated with huge industry bigboy soybean, one of the industry's biggest joke on the public). Unfortunately, organic whole beans (important too - you no doubt grind your own) are $9-10/pound. Thanks for your terrific posts! All Best Wishes, Muriel/ Kendel > Just my thoughts, but when I used to smoke back in the 60's I drank a lot of coffee, evrey day. When I quit in 1970, I HAD to quit coffee too as I got so wired I couldn't stand it. A few years later I started drinking ONLY decaf. ANd only ONE cup of that in the morning. A few cups of that and I was really feeling it too. > > Now I have just one cup for breadfast about 360 days a year. The other five, I miss maybe one day and have a cup of the real stuff the other 4 days. > > I NEED the one cup in the morning, but all that decaf can really get me feeling bad. You might rethink drinking " real " coffee IF you still have Lyme. > > Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 dear jo, glad to hear you at least have a confirmed diagnosis, sorry it's babesia to now deal with--well, another avenue of the neverending journey. please remember to check www.planetthrive.com for buhner's latest thinking on babesia. i have also listened to both of his new cds, which i highly recommend to you all. as i understand it, he does still suggest starting with 30days of artesinin. however, he says given feedback he got since writing the book, that does not seems to help about 50% of people. so, if you do not feel improvements after 30 days, stop. and try cryptolepsis, per doses on planetthrive. also sources for this hard-to=find herb are on planetthrive (thanks again to julie's help :-) blessings on your healing, kendra -----Original Message----- I'm interested in hearing what treatments people ahve used for babesia. I reviewed Buhner. He recommends artimisin for 30 to 40 days. Does that mean one can rid oneself of it within that length of time? jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 No Pat, I only drink ONE cup of DECAF a day. I have no way of decafinating it, right? There are a lot of things I don't do right yet, I am sure. Like eating TV dinners. I have no time to do all that stuff myself, and on $503 a month Social Security with no savings, I wouldn't last more than a couple months, IF I COULD find all the right things. Main reaons I started encapsulating my own herbs was because I couldn't find Stephania root already encapsulated, so I did, and then found out I could save 75 to 80 percent on them too by doing it. THEN I also found that the herbs are more pure that way. THEN it started getting to me that I was putting 93 capsules a day in my body with the gelatin capsules, so I started using the veggie caps. It seems to be more and more difficult to find ALL what to do to live healthy. Then even IF we eat everything right, there is the TV's, Computers, electricity, fuel oil, gas, wood heat, all the chemicals in such things as carpeting, paints, and on and on. ANd even if we slept outside 365 days a year, there would still be all the polution from all the rest of the people in this country. It just goes on and on, no end to it. And HOW you gonna stop all the rest from ruining the earth and all it's inhabitants? Jim. ### Kendel <kendels@...> wrote: Hi Jim, just a suggestion, and you probably already are aware. Organic coffee is a " Must " , because coffee is one of the most heavily sprayed crops on the planet (along with cotton, which is rotated with huge industry bigboy soybean, one of the industry's biggest joke on the public). Unfortunately, organic whole beans (important too - you no doubt grind your own) are $9-10/pound. Thanks for your terrific posts! All Best Wishes, Muriel/ Kendel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Buhner recommends taking the art only for 6 weeks. If it does not work by then, it won't is his belief. He more recently recommends cryptolepis instead. I have been unable to tolerate the crypto so take art for a while then stop, then go back to it when the sweats come back. I'm not happy with this way of treating and hope to find something that works to really get rid of it. I recently had an herbal by White called 'A-Bab' recommended to me. Does anyone know anything about this?- -- In , " zyph3 " <raspberry82@...> wrote: > > > I've tested positive for babesia and lyme. I've been fighting off the > lyme in a number of ways for a long time and improving under the > guidance of my LLMD, but am unsure how to beat the babesia. I tried > Buhner's artemisinin protocol for 2-3 months, but maybe that wasn't > long enough? Had anyone on here used quinine for combating it? If you > use artemesinin where do you buy it from? I found a few sources for > expensive pure artemisinin ($45/60 capsules). Just curious if anyone > else has advice about babesia specficially. Thanks in advance!! > > Athy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Babesia...Cryptolepsis [ ] Babesia Someone 2-3 months ago alluded to Buhner now favoring a different herb for babesia instead of artemisinin. While I noted it at the time, I have misplaced it. It was apparently a change in what he thought was the best primary herb for it. Does anyone know what the newer choice was? Doug in Durham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Hi Doug, The new recommendation is for CRYPTOLEPIS, (sometimes spelled cryptolepsis), which i have bought from www.woodlandessence.com. I hear it's out of stock right now. It's a malaria herbal from Africa and the supply is interrupted, no one (?) knows when it will resume. I'm having good results right now with " Raintree Amazon A-P " and COPTIS chinensis extract made by Herb Pharm, which i bought from iherb.com. ---purple From: dglsrichey <dglsrichey@...> Subject: [ ] Babesia Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 3:21 PM Someone 2-3 months ago alluded to Buhner now favoring a different herb for babesia instead of artemisinin. While I noted it at the time, I have misplaced it. It was apparently a change in what he thought was the best primary herb for it. Does anyone know what the newer choice was? Doug in Durham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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