Guest guest Posted September 5, 1998 Report Share Posted September 5, 1998 Hi, it's me again with another question for Lana! Remember the woman from MOL, whose 3 children (and herself) all came down with measles at the same time (YIKES). While her children were vaccinated against measles, they didn't (as far as I know) get the disease from the vaccine. And two of the children suffered complications, one very severe -- doctors were preparing her for his death! Now that was one scary story. However, I do realize these cases are rare and I have decided against the measles vaccine. About nosodes, do you or anyone else know of a good book(s) you'd recommend. Thanks. Kate At 06:25 AM 9/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >From: Mark & Lana Clifton <mclifton@...> > >Kate wrote: >I have to admit that I'm worried about measles and polio. I realize >that >>measles keep coming back (probably stronger because of the vaccine!) >and >>now the gov't is recommending a measles booster as a teenager, and that >it >>would be much better to have measles as a child. But even knowing all >>that, I worry about complications from measles. > >IMO you should WANT your children to contract measles as a child. This is >meant to be a childhood disease, and becomes more severe in adulthood. The >only complications I have ever heard from measles, was truthfully, from >vaccinated children who caught measles FROM the vaccine. Not only are you >injecting the live virus; but your mixing it with many carcinogenic toxins. > >Kate wrote: >I'm also very interested in " nosodes " . From what I understand, many >ND's >>won't touch them and it makes me wonder if they are safe. I know >>next-to-nothing about them. How new are they and do homeopathic cures >need >>to go thru any testing? > >I have spoken with several homeopaths/naturopaths regarding nosodes. Every >one of them was very hesitant when I brought up the theory of nosodes in >prophalactly preventing diseases. I never got the impression that they >were 'dangerous' in any way...matter of fact one well-know ND even claimed >he has had much success with them and never experienced negetive side >effects. I think their reluctancy in dealing with nosodes stems from the >theory of natural medicines working to put mind and body in balance--to >heal, not to 'prevent'. The allopaths (MD's) have 'vaccines'...homeopaths >do not use 'prevention' measures...but the nosodes are recomended for >treatment of the disease, itself; pertussin for pertussis, and they have >some for measles, polio and many more. Like vaccines, they are made from a >particle of the illness...(treating like with like) but prepared much >differently without the toxic interference. > >hope this puts it into perspective a bit, >Lana >mama of Cody Ukiah > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 1998 Report Share Posted September 5, 1998 This book was recommended to me though I have not seen a copy yet. " Homeopathic Medicine at Home " /B. Panos, MD & J. Heimlich. It explains use of homeopathics and when and what to administer. Here are what nosodes are for anyone that may be unfamiliar with them: A nosode is simply a homeopathic remedy that is made from a disease product. Nosodes are not in any way infections, and can be used in the same way as vaccines, that is, to prevent viral infection. Like vaccines, nosodes sensitize the body to a particular virus, so the immune system can react quickly and effectively to natural exposure. Nosodes are at least as effective as vaccines, and in some cases have been shown to be significantly more effective than vaccines in preventing infection. The biggest advantage of nosodes over vaccines is the fact that they are completely safe. There are no risks or side-effects whatever. Nosodes, like all homeopathic remedies, are very easy to administer: they are given by mouth, and don't even need to be swallowed. They are also very economical - far less expensive, in fact, than vaccination. In addition to helping prevent specific viral diseases with prophylactic use, nosodes can be used even after exposure to a virus has taken place. If given immediately after exposure, before symptoms develop, these nosodes can prevent the development of clinical disease. Re: Nosodes From: mkpeters@... Hi, it's me again with another question for Lana! Remember the woman from MOL, whose 3 children (and herself) all came down with measles at the same time (YIKES). While her children were vaccinated against measles, they didn't (as far as I know) get the disease from the vaccine. And two of the children suffered complications, one very severe -- doctors were preparing her for his death! Now that was one scary story. However, I do realize these cases are rare and I have decided against the measles vaccine. About nosodes, do you or anyone else know of a good book(s) you'd recommend. Thanks. Kate At 06:25 AM 9/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >From: Mark & Lana Clifton <mclifton@...> > >Kate wrote: >I have to admit that I'm worried about measles and polio. I realize >that >>measles keep coming back (probably stronger because of the vaccine!) >and >>now the gov't is recommending a measles booster as a teenager, and that >it >>would be much better to have measles as a child. But even knowing all >>that, I worry about complications from measles. > >IMO you should WANT your children to contract measles as a child. This is >meant to be a childhood disease, and becomes more severe in adulthood. The >only complications I have ever heard from measles, was truthfully, from >vaccinated children who caught measles FROM the vaccine. Not only are you >injecting the live virus; but your mixing it with many carcinogenic toxins. > >Kate wrote: >I'm also very interested in " nosodes " . From what I understand, many >ND's >>won't touch them and it makes me wonder if they are safe. I know >>next-to-nothing about them. How new are they and do homeopathic cures >need >>to go thru any testing? > >I have spoken with several homeopaths/naturopaths regarding nosodes. Every >one of them was very hesitant when I brought up the theory of nosodes in >prophalactly preventing diseases. I never got the impression that they >were 'dangerous' in any way...matter of fact one well-know ND even claimed >he has had much success with them and never experienced negetive side >effects. I think their reluctancy in dealing with nosodes stems from the >theory of natural medicines working to put mind and body in balance--to >heal, not to 'prevent'. The allopaths (MD's) have 'vaccines'...homeopaths >do not use 'prevention' measures...but the nosodes are recomended for >treatment of the disease, itself; pertussin for pertussis, and they have >some for measles, polio and many more. Like vaccines, they are made from a >particle of the illness...(treating like with like) but prepared much >differently without the toxic interference. > >hope this puts it into perspective a bit, >Lana >mama of Cody Ukiah > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 1998 Report Share Posted September 5, 1998 Yes Lana, that makes sense. I hadn't read any of her earlier posts, so I didn't know her son just had his MMR shot. Isn't it strange that she wouldn't suspect the vaccine herself. Kate At 11:39 AM 9/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >From: Mark & Lana Clifton <mclifton@...> > >Kate, > >Yes, I do remember the lady whose 3 children (including herself) came down >w/measles....which further convinces me that trying to 'prevent' by >vaccinating is unnecessary. These children, all vaccinated, may have been >exposed OR contracted it by the vaccine itself. Either way, it is highly >unlikely one would suffer from severe complications as these poor children >did. I can't help but wonder if the vaccine was the cause... remember her >saying (when the measles first appeared on her youngest son) that he had >just been vaccinated with MMR less than 2 weeks ago...ya never know?! > >Lana > >At 10:19 PM 9/5/98 -0400, you wrote: >>From: mkpeters@... >> >>Hi, it's me again with another question for Lana! Remember the woman from >>MOL, whose 3 children (and herself) all came down with measles at the same >>time (YIKES). While her children were vaccinated against measles, they >>didn't (as far as I know) get the disease from the vaccine. And two of the >>children suffered complications, one very severe -- doctors were preparing >>her for his death! Now that was one scary story. However, I do realize >>these cases are rare and I have decided against the measles vaccine. About >>nosodes, do you or anyone else know of a good book(s) you'd recommend. >>Thanks. >> >>Kate >> >> >>At 06:25 AM 9/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >>>From: Mark & Lana Clifton <mclifton@...> >>> >>>Kate wrote: >>>I have to admit that I'm worried about measles and polio. I realize >>>that >>>>measles keep coming back (probably stronger because of the vaccine!) >>>and >>>>now the gov't is recommending a measles booster as a teenager, and that >>>it >>>>would be much better to have measles as a child. But even knowing all >>>>that, I worry about complications from measles. >>> >>>IMO you should WANT your children to contract measles as a child. This is >>>meant to be a childhood disease, and becomes more severe in adulthood. The >>>only complications I have ever heard from measles, was truthfully, from >>>vaccinated children who caught measles FROM the vaccine. Not only are you >>>injecting the live virus; but your mixing it with many carcinogenic toxins. >>> >>>Kate wrote: >>>I'm also very interested in " nosodes " . From what I understand, many >>>ND's >>>>won't touch them and it makes me wonder if they are safe. I know >>>>next-to-nothing about them. How new are they and do homeopathic cures >>>need >>>>to go thru any testing? >>> >>>I have spoken with several homeopaths/naturopaths regarding nosodes. Every >>>one of them was very hesitant when I brought up the theory of nosodes in >>>prophalactly preventing diseases. I never got the impression that they >>>were 'dangerous' in any way...matter of fact one well-know ND even claimed >>>he has had much success with them and never experienced negetive side >>>effects. I think their reluctancy in dealing with nosodes stems from the >>>theory of natural medicines working to put mind and body in balance--to >>>heal, not to 'prevent'. The allopaths (MD's) have 'vaccines'...homeopaths >>>do not use 'prevention' measures...but the nosodes are recomended for >>>treatment of the disease, itself; pertussin for pertussis, and they have >>>some for measles, polio and many more. Like vaccines, they are made from a >>>particle of the illness...(treating like with like) but prepared much >>>differently without the toxic interference. >>> >>>hope this puts it into perspective a bit, >>>Lana >>>mama of Cody Ukiah >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 1998 Report Share Posted September 5, 1998 At 22:19 5/09/98 -0400, you wrote: >From: mkpeters@... > >Hi, it's me again with another question for Lana! Remember the woman from >MOL, whose 3 children (and herself) all came down with measles at the same >time (YIKES). While her children were vaccinated against measles, they >didn't (as far as I know) get the disease from the vaccine. And two of the >children suffered complications, one very severe -- doctors were preparing >her for his death! Now that was one scary story. However, I do realize >these cases are rare and I have decided against the measles vaccine. About >nosodes, do you or anyone else know of a good book(s) you'd recommend. >Thanks. i have the book 'healing your child' which is a wonderful comprehensive guide to herbs, homeopathics, cell salts and other remedies. It also has a comprehensive list of nosodes and isodes. I'm not sure if it is available in the US but it's worth finding out! Judy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Judy <earthmum@...> My homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3144/ Mother to 2/93, 2/95, and 11/97. " If you educate a man you educate an individual, but when you educate a woman you educate the whole family and the community. When the woman moves forward, the family move, the village moves and the nation moves forward. " Mahatma Gandhi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 1998 Report Share Posted September 6, 1998 Kate, Yes, I do remember the lady whose 3 children (including herself) came down w/measles....which further convinces me that trying to 'prevent' by vaccinating is unnecessary. These children, all vaccinated, may have been exposed OR contracted it by the vaccine itself. Either way, it is highly unlikely one would suffer from severe complications as these poor children did. I can't help but wonder if the vaccine was the cause... remember her saying (when the measles first appeared on her youngest son) that he had just been vaccinated with MMR less than 2 weeks ago...ya never know?! Lana At 10:19 PM 9/5/98 -0400, you wrote: >From: mkpeters@... > >Hi, it's me again with another question for Lana! Remember the woman from >MOL, whose 3 children (and herself) all came down with measles at the same >time (YIKES). While her children were vaccinated against measles, they >didn't (as far as I know) get the disease from the vaccine. And two of the >children suffered complications, one very severe -- doctors were preparing >her for his death! Now that was one scary story. However, I do realize >these cases are rare and I have decided against the measles vaccine. About >nosodes, do you or anyone else know of a good book(s) you'd recommend. >Thanks. > >Kate > > >At 06:25 AM 9/6/98 -0400, you wrote: >>From: Mark & Lana Clifton <mclifton@...> >> >>Kate wrote: >>I have to admit that I'm worried about measles and polio. I realize >>that >>>measles keep coming back (probably stronger because of the vaccine!) >>and >>>now the gov't is recommending a measles booster as a teenager, and that >>it >>>would be much better to have measles as a child. But even knowing all >>>that, I worry about complications from measles. >> >>IMO you should WANT your children to contract measles as a child. This is >>meant to be a childhood disease, and becomes more severe in adulthood. The >>only complications I have ever heard from measles, was truthfully, from >>vaccinated children who caught measles FROM the vaccine. Not only are you >>injecting the live virus; but your mixing it with many carcinogenic toxins. >> >>Kate wrote: >>I'm also very interested in " nosodes " . From what I understand, many >>ND's >>>won't touch them and it makes me wonder if they are safe. I know >>>next-to-nothing about them. How new are they and do homeopathic cures >>need >>>to go thru any testing? >> >>I have spoken with several homeopaths/naturopaths regarding nosodes. Every >>one of them was very hesitant when I brought up the theory of nosodes in >>prophalactly preventing diseases. I never got the impression that they >>were 'dangerous' in any way...matter of fact one well-know ND even claimed >>he has had much success with them and never experienced negetive side >>effects. I think their reluctancy in dealing with nosodes stems from the >>theory of natural medicines working to put mind and body in balance--to >>heal, not to 'prevent'. The allopaths (MD's) have 'vaccines'...homeopaths >>do not use 'prevention' measures...but the nosodes are recomended for >>treatment of the disease, itself; pertussin for pertussis, and they have >>some for measles, polio and many more. Like vaccines, they are made from a >>particle of the illness...(treating like with like) but prepared much >>differently without the toxic interference. >> >>hope this puts it into perspective a bit, >>Lana >>mama of Cody Ukiah >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 1998 Report Share Posted September 6, 1998 Another book I have been recomended to is Homeopathy in Epedemic Diseases by Dorothy Shepherd MD....I've heard it is a very informative book for treatiting many diseases, naturally. I have looked for it on amazon, with no luck...if anyone else finds a source for the book, PLEASe let me know. Thanks, Lana BTW Kate: I don't know much about this post-polio you are speaking of.... At 04:37 PM 9/6/98 +1200, you wrote: >From: Earthmum <earthmum@...> > >At 22:19 5/09/98 -0400, you wrote: >>From: mkpeters@... >> >>Hi, it's me again with another question for Lana! Remember the woman from >>MOL, whose 3 children (and herself) all came down with measles at the same >>time (YIKES). While her children were vaccinated against measles, they >>didn't (as far as I know) get the disease from the vaccine. And two of the >>children suffered complications, one very severe -- doctors were preparing >>her for his death! Now that was one scary story. However, I do realize >>these cases are rare and I have decided against the measles vaccine. About >>nosodes, do you or anyone else know of a good book(s) you'd recommend. >>Thanks. > >i have the book 'healing your child' which is a wonderful comprehensive >guide to herbs, homeopathics, cell salts and other remedies. It also has a >comprehensive list of nosodes and isodes. I'm not sure if it is available >in the US but it's worth finding out! > >Judy. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Judy <earthmum@...> >My homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3144/ >Mother to 2/93, 2/95, and 11/97. > > " If you educate a man you educate an individual, but when you >educate a woman you educate the whole family and the community. >When the woman moves forward, the family move, the village >moves and the nation moves forward. " >Mahatma Gandhi. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 1998 Report Share Posted December 19, 1998 At 02:01 PM 12/19/98 -0800, you wrote: >From: " Jodi " <jferri@...> > >Kate, > >Can you tell me anything else about nosodes? We were seeing a homeopathic >Dr. who suggested we give nosodes and said that it would counteract >the damage done by having her vaccinated. He really didn't know enough >about them for me to feel comfortable giving them to her. > It really seems that way with so many naturopaths/homeopaths. When I started my research on nosodes, it was very difficult finding anyone who new the score. They almost made it sound as if they were 'dangerous' but now I realize that they just didn't know - there is a good book 'homoopathy in epidemic diseaes' by dorothy shepherd who goes into the prophylactic use of nosodes into further detail. She was (recently died) a well-know, highly respected homeopath who practiced in england and has had alot of positive experiences with the use of nosodes for prevention and treatment. Check it out! Lana >Jodi > > Re: Whooping cough outbreak > > >>From: s <mkpeters@...> >> >>Hi Ginny, >> >>I wouldn't want to see an 8-mo old have to fight thru whooping cough. Have >>you thought about giving him a nosode for whooping cough. The nosode is >>called " pertussin " and is supposed to be quite effective in preventing the >>disease in cases of epidemics and also in treating those who have caught >>it, thus making it much less severe. Is there a homeopath near you? >>That's where you can get it and ask more questions about it. >> >>Good luck and Merry Christmas. >> >>Kate >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 do you think that nosodes are a viable option for those travelling overseas? Kathy : You won't find any definitive reference but Phyllis had said 6 weeks at the : most probably, IF AT ALL, and I would tend to agree. : But who knows. Each person is an individual. Not likely to do much and : could do harm by giving homeopathic remedies when not indicate and not : matching the symptom picture. ALL classical homoepaths that I know : personally do not agree with using remedies this way. Hahnemann used them : in epidemics primarily. : -------------------------------------------------------- : Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 At 03:09 PM 05/05/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >I participate in a group that, among other subjects, often discusses >vaccinations. Nosodes are often brought up as an alternative to >vaccinations, sometimes even as a conjunctive method as in " we had him >vaccinated with X once, now we're continuing the series homeopathically. " > >I would appreciate a reference (link on the web, etc) regarding especially >the *length of effectiveness* of any given nosode. >Thank you for any help, >Lilian, Chicago, IL >___________________ You won't find any definitive reference but Phyllis had said 6 weeks at the most probably, IF AT ALL, and I would tend to agree. But who knows. Each person is an individual. Not likely to do much and could do harm by giving homeopathic remedies when not indicate and not matching the symptom picture. ALL classical homoepaths that I know personally do not agree with using remedies this way. Hahnemann used them in epidemics primarily. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA moderator Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 04/18/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 At 08:23 AM 05/05/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >do you think that nosodes are a viable option for those travelling >overseas? Kathy > It depends on what and where you mean. Malaria countries - there are options for homeopathic remedies that match symptom pictures of malaria that people have used before, during getting ill. Polio, and all the rest - No, they are NOT necessary or recommended. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA moderator Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 04/26/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 Ok, so what are/is Nosodes??? Sue <<<<< confused of Wales, Uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 This is a great article, IMO http://www.lyghtforce.com/homeopathyonline/text/golden.htm > > > >I participate in a group that, among other subjects, often discusses > >vaccinations. Nosodes are often brought up as an alternative to > >vaccinations, sometimes even as a conjunctive method as in " we had him > >vaccinated with X once, now we're continuing the series homeopathically. " > > > >I would appreciate a reference (link on the web, etc) regarding especially > >the *length of effectiveness* of any given nosode. > >Thank you for any help, > >Lilian, Chicago, IL > >___________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 isn't nosodes homeopathic? and isn't homeopathy only supposed to treat a symptom? so is you do not have a syptom than you are not suppossed to treat it reihgt? I do not know a lotabout homeopathy. >From: " lilian holm-drumgole " <lholm2@...> >Reply-Vaccinations >georgic@..., Vaccinations >Subject: Nosodes >Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 15:09:45 -0500 > >I participate in a group that, among other subjects, often discusses >vaccinations. Nosodes are often brought up as an alternative to >vaccinations, sometimes even as a conjunctive method as in " we had him >vaccinated with X once, now we're continuing the series homeopathically. " > >I would appreciate a reference (link on the web, etc) regarding especially >the *length of effectiveness* of any given nosode. >Thank you for any help, >Lilian, Chicago, IL >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 >and IMO ;-) it is not accurate and doens't reflect the knowledge, >experience and practice of most classical homeopaths I study with >and respect. Dr. Golden says in the article you disagree with: " I have patients who vaccinate their children. I am ready to help them irrespective of my personal views on vaccination. I have patients who use only constitutional treatment and not HP, some who use HP, and some who only use homoeopathy for acute problems and employ no method of disease prevention. They all have my support. " SHERI: Please don't take this wrong, but I would be less than honest if I didn't point out an obvious parallel between the attitudes of allopathic medicine toward alternative practices, and your view of " classical homeopathy " toward any " pretender " . Based on Dr. Golden's statement above, his approach and especially his attitude appears to me to be commendable and quite respectful. My kid's pediatrician is a dyed-in-the-wool allopath, but he is diligent and compassionate. He just spent over an hour yesterday discussing vaccination with my wife and I, agreeing that it is a very difficult decision, and never once making us feel anything less than respected. The pediatric group he is a part of is composed of 11 docs at four different sites in our metro area, netting approximately 17,000 office visits per year. He also admitted to us that the percentage of unvaxed kids in his practice is about 5%! The national average is .5% to 2%! I don't feel quite so alone anymore..., and I intend to find some more of these dissenters. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Hi Tim, Have you read " How to Raise a Healthy Child...In Spite of Your Doctor " ? Great Book, and a must read if we have to see why Pediatricians do what they do. Their convictions etc. With reference to the convictions of your kid's Pediatrician, it makes sense in a way. It's the reason he is in business - to make money, and vaccines are his bread n butter. He's better off justifying his motives. You're doing the right thing, by being informed. Auj > My kid's pediatrician is a dyed-in-the-wool allopath, but he is > diligent and compassionate. He just spent over an hour yesterday > discussing vaccination with my wife and I, agreeing that it is a very > difficult decision, and never once making us feel anything less than > respected. The pediatric group he is a part of is composed of 11 > docs at four different sites in our metro area, netting approximately > 17,000 office visits per year. He also admitted to us that the > percentage of unvaxed kids in his practice is about 5%! The national > average is .5% to 2%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 At 06:27 PM 05/07/2001 -0000, you wrote: > >isn't nosodes homeopathic? and isn't homeopathy only supposed to treat a >symptom? so is you do not have a syptom than you are not suppossed to treat >it reihgt? I do not know a lotabout homeopathy. You know a lot more than you think! You have it exactly right. Unless you have symptoms you cannot possibly find a remedy that matches those symptoms. In epidemics, sometimes, homeopaths will use a remedy that matches the symptoms that most peope have to try and prevent something - but that is WITHIN a SERIOUS epidemic and not the best way to practice homeopathy. You are right! sheri > > >>From: " lilian holm-drumgole " <lholm2@...> >>Reply-Vaccinations >>georgic@..., Vaccinations >>Subject: Nosodes >>Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 15:09:45 -0500 >> >>I participate in a group that, among other subjects, often discusses >>vaccinations. Nosodes are often brought up as an alternative to >>vaccinations, sometimes even as a conjunctive method as in " we had him >>vaccinated with X once, now we're continuing the series homeopathically. " >> >>I would appreciate a reference (link on the web, etc) regarding especially >>the *length of effectiveness* of any given nosode. >>Thank you for any help, >>Lilian, Chicago, IL >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Kay, Thankyou so much for the info as stated below. We will not be going to see Isaac Golden. $$ saved! Nosodes Here is some information Sheri posted awhile back about " Homeopathic Vaccinations. " Kay ***************************************** There are several out there who advocate mass homeopathic 'vaccination' - used routinely. I DON'T agree with this in this way. All of the homeopaths I know and respect and study with DO NOT agree with this approach. If a disease is nearby and you are at risk and you are really concerned - ie smallpox, polio, etc, then often homeopathy can be used temporarily in that instance. I have already posted information on homeoprophylaxis in that type of situation. That is NOT this. Here are the things you can do for the threat of an acute disease in an epidemic: 1. Wait and treat on the individual symptom picture that you have or develop - THIS IS THE BEST 2. Find the genus epidemicus (I have/will post more on this). This is the remedy that seems to fit most of the people in your area in THIS particular instance of the epidemic (not last years or in the past, but this one) NEXT BEST 3. Use nosodes or remedies that have worked in past epidemics THE LEAST DESIRABLE Each of the above has its applications depending on your situation. It is also good to have a homeopath to work with on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 You're very welcome . Kay Re: Nosodes Kay, Thankyou so much for the info as stated below. We will not be going to see Isaac Golden. $$ saved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi, I have used vaccination nosodes to treat my autistic son Henry. I have also used sarcodes to rebuild myelin as well. Henry did show some slightly disturbing neurological behaviors during detox, but they stopped toward the end and never returned. I was told he walking backwards through his disease and he was safe and to continue. He is still very much autistic. He is also healthier in my opinion which could very well be attributed to the immune building part of the protocol. I really couldn't say for sure.I have put off further detoxification of this kind as this group has changed my way of thinking about homeopathy. Anita --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Nosodes in US may be as illegal to dose without an EXAM by a very experienced homeoptah as it is elsewhere ( Germany to name but one)--due to the fact of it being made from infected tissues ( blood pus etc) and the inherent dangers associated not only with handling but insuring none of the infected matter can reinfect the person taking it taking a homeopathic remedy made from an herb or mineral is one thing--when even the homeopaths respect the dangers of nosodes as to NOT promote them as safe as the other remedies and limit their use one has to stop and woner?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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