Andrographis and Stephania

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I asked this question over at Planet Thrive (still waiting for an

answer, so I thought I'd ask here too).

Has anyone used Andrographis and Stephania as their core protocol

WITHOUT Knotweed and Cats Claw? I started the Buhner core protocol (+

red root and sarsaparilla) a month ago at his lowest recommended

dosage and it was too much for me -I herxed too badly.

I have ALS-like Lyme and I could not tolerate antibiotics either (9

months of oral and IV treatment caused many violent herxes, but no

improvement -just further wasting). I am wondering if my problem is

cytokines (herxing causes immune response -the cytokine cascade- that

creates more inflammation/damage):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokines

so I want to try to just use the 2 herbs that limit cytokine

production. I am worried about the effectiveness of this combo.

Any thoughts/advice?

Thanks,

BB/Ellen