Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Thanks to a response to my prior post titled betware Nutramedix, an Ecudorian website that describes their products was referred: bionatus.com/nutramedix.Today, I discovered that Bionatus and NutraMedix are grossly over pricing another single herb under an obscure name. Ezov has as its single active ingredient hyssop. Hyssop is grown in northern America and Europe. NutraMedix's price for dried nonorganic one ounce tincture bottle is $47.95!. Whereas, a quick search on the internet came up with a FOUR ounce bottle of fresh hyssop for $16 at pikeherb.com/hyssop.htm. NutraMedix grossly marked up the price. Many patients taking an obscurely named herb may not know they are grossly over paying and may not know whether they are double dosing as they may be already taking it by its common name, latin name or name of the main ingredient. The government needs to pass a statute restricting the names of single herbs to common, latin or main ingredient and define " common " as the english common name cited in herb books and naturopathy books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I appreciate the heads up that some nutramedix tinctures are actually herbs I can get elsewhere cheaper if I choose to forgo the potential " specialness " real or not of this company's products. I can use that information. Thank you. I usually read the ingredients and so far am only buying products that look from all indications to be herbs that are not found elsewhere: burbur, pinella... well, parsley.. and thats a good point. I could get that cheaper elsewhere if I do not buy into or believe the " hype " or actually true " specialness " of the nutramedix brand. If you can tell me that burbur, pinella, let's see.. cumanda, banderol, possibly.. what else... whose ingredients are not obviously some other herb that I can get elsewhere, then I am all ears. Otherwise, I am going to use what I can from where I can get it if I know it works for me and my family. I do not think Cowden is out to con us and have problems with that idea. I think he is familiar with the nutramedix company and must trust them as far as the product reliability is concerned. Sal > > Thanks to a response to my prior post titled betware Nutramedix, an Ecudorian website that describes their products was referred: bionatus.com/nutramedix.Today, I discovered that Bionatus and NutraMedix are grossly over pricing another single herb under an obscure name. Ezov has as its single active ingredient hyssop. Hyssop is grown in northern America and Europe. NutraMedix's price for dried nonorganic one ounce tincture bottle is $47.95!. Whereas, a quick search on the internet came up with a FOUR ounce bottle of fresh hyssop for $16 at pikeherb.com/hyssop.htm. NutraMedix grossly marked up the price. > > Many patients taking an obscurely named herb may not know they are grossly over paying and may not know whether they are double dosing as they may be already taking it by its common name, latin name or name of the main ingredient. > > The government needs to pass a statute restricting the names of single herbs to common, latin or main ingredient and define " common " as the english common name cited in herb books and naturopathy books. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Sal its not a matter of Cowden out to " con " anyone and he may well not know much about the com pany. I have worked with a few LLMDs who were approached by supplement companies ( one Dr even had a Lyme vitamin formula made with their name on it) and I can say that very often the Drs do NOT check out business practices and do the minimums when it comes to checking safety and other things like product reliability--they " trust " the company execs like we do...and they also " trust " pharmaceutical companies too...does any Dr question the sales rep holding a sample of Prevacid what the business practices are?? they listen and believe safety and indications and dosages and rarely if ever investigate further!! therefore as consumers WE have to do the legwork and uncover things about the company and ingredients and business practices..share that info and then let people decide if theyre comfortable with doing business with them! When there is a reaction of " the Dr wouldnt do that " " the Dr trusts it " ?it confuses the situation and is actually moot--not matters really. The accountability for drugs and supps is not there...and hence the need for a few willing to take the time to make calls and emails and ask questions and then share with all of us!! Finette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Finette, We exchanged emails on another list. Let me make this clear. I am very aware of how not only doctors, but most all people in positions of " power " (or not) tend to be less than thorough in their research as they can be, tend to be unreliable to the 100th% (Hey, I dont think one of thse LLMDs has the answer as do most of us), tend to on some level or another default their inquiries into the " truth " to some extent. Look, I homeschool my kids partly because I believe the school system produces just that mindset... do as you are told and dont ask questions unless they are the " right ones " ... accept reality/truth as we disperse it to you. I appreciate information, and I will be considering more cheaper herbs for the parsley tincture and others that I can actually find elsewhere from the best I can tell reputable dealer, unless someone shares infor that might make me think twice about that. To lead the subject line with " BEWARE NUTRAMEDIX REGARDNG EZOV " is IMHO a bit alarmist and implies along with email content less that honorable intentions on the part of Nutramedix... which turns me off completely, in regards to them and the subject line. I appreciate a heads up, not a dire warning that implies Nutramedix is not a trustworthy company. If you have evidence otherwise, I would appreciate that info as well. Perhaps they do use the extra money for research into new herbs? Do you know? If they are using obscure names for herbs that I can find elsewhere, I will be very ticked off.. pardon the bad pun. If that is so, I want to know what tinctures, and will be so very appreciative of that info. For the meantime, I have learned that I may be able to substitute some products from Nutramedix... and yes, I did " fall into " the program so to speak.. take the complimentary products from that company only. And, now I am questioning that. The Cowden endorsement does lend an air of specialness to the tinctures and a sense of " sticking to the program " which does seem to refer specificially and only to Nutramedix herbs. I appreciate the heads up very much, and am eager to hear more information that will make my pocket book happier and my emotional state of mind less dependent on ideas like " you have use these tinctures or these products only. " I dont get that from Buhner, although he does give leads to herbs he has found useful. Thank you, Finette. Sal > > > > > Sal > > its not a matter of Cowden out to " con " anyone and he may well not know much about the com pany. I have worked with a few LLMDs who were approached by supplement companies ( one Dr even had a Lyme vitamin formula made with their name on it) and I can say that very often the Drs do NOT check out business practices and do the minimums when it comes to checking safety and other things like product reliability-- they " trust " the company execs like we do...and they also " trust " pharmaceutical companies too...does any Dr question the sales rep holding a sample of Prevacid what the business practices are?? they listen and believe safety and indications and dosages and rarely if ever investigate further!! > > therefore as consumers WE have to do the legwork and uncover things about the company and ingredients and business practices..share that info and then let people decide if theyre comfortable with doing business with them! > > When there is a reaction of " the Dr wouldnt do that " " the Dr trusts it " ?it confuses the situation and is actually moot--not matters really. > > The accountability for drugs and supps is not there...and hence the need for a few willing to take the time to make calls and emails and ask questions and then share with all of us!! > > Finette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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