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Before I began making tinctures I bought the book " Making Plant Medicine " and

read it

thoroughly. Today I called mountainroseherbs.com and it turns out that the

knowledgeable woman there likes that book also.

If you use dried herbs, you need to use water as well as alcohol in the tincture

because

the dried herbs need to rehydrate. Fresh herbs are often the best but who can

get them?

The basic ratio is half water and half alcohol for dried herbs. Keep in mind

that most

alcohol sources are not all alcohol and you need to adjust the amounts to get

the correct

ratio. The author goes over that.

People who are in the know recommend using Everclear or Clear Springs. They are

95%

alcohol and are the best extractors. They are not sold over the counter in my

state (WA)

so I have applied to the liquor board for a special license to be able to buy

the available

Clear Springs.

The savings of doing your own herbs are great. My first batch is almost ready

so I'll let

you know how it works out.

Sheryl

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Another thing is, you should get 'cut and sifted' or whole herbs rather than

powdered.

The powdered herbs lose their potency quickly. You should grind the 'cut and

sifted' or

whole herbs yourself right before macerating and I use a coffee grinder for

this. The

grind consistency should be about that of coarsely ground cornmeal. If powdered

herb

was used, the alcohol could not circulate properly amongst the particles to

extract the

constituents.

I bought a kitchen scale to weigh the herbs. Since I'm doing a 10-herb mixture,

this was

necessary. If you are only using one or two herbs, you can fill the jar about

half full

with herbs and then add fluid to fill to the top. You will need to keep topping

because

the herbs will absorb the fluid. Store the maceration in a dark area for 3-6

weeks and

shake it every day. Mine has been sitting almost a month now.

I seem to be getting well rapidly now after adding andrographis.

Sheryl

>

> Before I began making tinctures I bought the book " Making Plant Medicine " and

read it

> thoroughly. Today I called mountainroseherbs.com and it turns out that the

> knowledgeable woman there likes that book also.

>

> If you use dried herbs, you need to use water as well as alcohol in the

tincture because

> the dried herbs need to rehydrate. Fresh herbs are often the best but who can

get

them?

> The basic ratio is half water and half alcohol for dried herbs. Keep in mind

that most

> alcohol sources are not all alcohol and you need to adjust the amounts to get

the

correct

> ratio. The author goes over that.

>

> People who are in the know recommend using Everclear or Clear Springs. They

are

95%

> alcohol and are the best extractors. They are not sold over the counter in my

state

(WA)

> so I have applied to the liquor board for a special license to be able to buy

the

available

> Clear Springs.

>

> The savings of doing your own herbs are great. My first batch is almost ready

so I'll

let

> you know how it works out.

>

> Sheryl

>

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Thanks for posting, smackie,  just what i wanted to know!  I was planning to buy

some books about this.  any others you recommend?  Is your one title enough?

 

What 10 herbs are you blending?  What's your recipe? what is it for?

 

I 've had a  bag of eleuthero chunks  for a year; didn't know what to do with

them.  Can i boil them to make a decoction?  How long do i cook them?  Is a

decoction effective and potent?  What ration, what strentght, how much decoction

equals how many milligrams of a pill?  Does your book explain decoctions too?

 

Pertinent topic!

from purple

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Buhner is skeptic about andrographis and Japanese knotweed tinctures.

He doesn't think they work as well. Check planet thrive (I suppose

it's there where I read about it). Much weaker than whole herb or

something like that.

I can swear andro doesn't work as well in tincture than in whole herb

(I tried both, my bottle of andro is still full and I paid expensive

for it). Whole herb andro works muuuch better.

Cats claw though works as well in my opinion (both tincture and whole

herb). I've used both for more than a year and can't tell the

difference.

Selma

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>

> Another thing is, you should get 'cut and sifted' or whole herbs

rather than powdered.

> The powdered herbs lose their potency quickly. You should grind

the 'cut and sifted' or

> whole herbs yourself right before macerating and I use a coffee

grinder for this. The

> grind consistency should be about that of coarsely ground

cornmeal. If powdered herb

> was used, the alcohol could not circulate properly amongst the

particles to extract the

> constituents.

>

> I bought a kitchen scale to weigh the herbs. Since I'm doing a 10-

herb mixture, this was

> necessary. If you are only using one or two herbs, you can fill

the jar about half full

> with herbs and then add fluid to fill to the top. You will need to

keep topping because

> the herbs will absorb the fluid. Store the maceration in a dark

area for 3-6 weeks and

> shake it every day. Mine has been sitting almost a month now.

>

> I seem to be getting well rapidly now after adding andrographis.

>

> Sheryl

>

>

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I'm looking at a couple of other books right now but can't evaluate them yet. A

woman

on the other end of the phone at 1sthchineseherbs.com said that the main book

they use

there and are constantly consulting is " Handbook of Chinese Herbal Formulas. " I

just got

it today in the mail.

Also, looking at earlier messages on this group, a woman recommended " The One

Earth

Herbal Sourcebook. You can look up her comments by typing in that title. I've

reserved

it at a local library and will pick it up tomorrow. If I like it, I'll buy it.

I boil a little 'cut and sifted' eleuthero for a tea every morning and do not

measure it. It

seems to help with the energy level. Have not made a tincture with them but

" Making

Plant Medicine " says you can do a tincture with 50% alcohol : 50% water. It

explains

decoctions. I bought the book from horizonherbs.com. It provides mathematical

equivalencies. People also like " Herbal Medicine Maker's Handbook. "

I haven't tried out my 10-herb recipe yet. I'm trying to copy a commercial

formula.

Perhaps best to wait to make sure it isn't harmful.

Sheryl

>

> Thanks for posting, smackie,  just what i wanted to know!  I was planning to

buy some

books about this.  any others you recommend?  Is your one title enough?

>  

> What 10 herbs are you blending?  What's your recipe? what is it for?

>  

> I 've had a  bag of eleuthero chunks  for a year; didn't know what to do with

them. 

Can i boil them to make a decoction?  How long do i cook them?  Is a decoction

effective

and potent?  What ration, what strentght, how much decoction equals how many

milligrams of a pill?  Does your book explain decoctions too?

>  

> Pertinent topic!

> from purple

>

>

>

>

>

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> Obviously using 40% alcohol when 70% is recommended is not going to cut

> it. Is there a way around this? What do others do?

Let the tincture macerate longer (2+ months as opposed to one), and shake

the bottle every day.

Scienctists like to make rules about plant chemistry and such, but the

plants will do what they need to do. As an herbalist, I usually use 40%

alcohol, and have had very good results - even with the harder, denser

roots.

Somerville, MA

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