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It is probably too early to have him tested. & nbsp; But I sure hope you stopped

the breastfeeding, the sooner the better. & nbsp; As it is inconclusive yet, some

do believe the disease can be transferred that way.

& nbsp;

Jim.

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From: chlobot & lt;erikncarren@... & gt;

Subject: [ ] Is my baby screwed?

Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 8:56 AM

I was bit a month ago & amp; am now having symptoms. I've been

breastfeeding this whole time. Is transmission a forgone conclusion?

Will the herbs I take help him? Should I have him tested?

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Hi,

There is debate among researchers whether or not Lyme can be

transmitted thru breast milk. I'm sure there are people who will tell

you that it is a certainty, but check out the credentials of who tells

you what.

I am not a scientist, my reading of the research indicates that they

just don't know.

So I would say, NO it is not a foregone conclusion.

As far as having your baby tested, I am not familiar with the testing

of babies. I do know that with adults, a positive test does indicate

Lyme, a negative test does NOT rule it out.

As far as herbs, again, I don't know anything about herbs and the baby.

Perhaps you could ask Buhner that. Someone on this list should

be able to tell you if is now answering questions on Planet

Thrive.

As you try to figure out this difficult question, I suggest you do

anything you can to keep your baby's immune system in very good shape.

And if it were me, I would be very wary of getting vaccinations, as

they can affect baby's immune system.

Hope this helps some.

ellen

-- In , " chlobot " <erikncarren@...> wrote:

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> I was bit a month ago & am now having symptoms. I've been

> breastfeeding this whole time. Is transmission a forgone conclusion?

> Will the herbs I take help him? Should I have him tested?

>

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Ellen, borrelia is proved to be found in breast milk, vaginal fluids

and semen.

The most famous publication about breast milk is:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7648832

Whether one gets infected after drinking this contaminated milk or

after making sex we are not sure, but I would take the careful side

just as safety.

I test energetically non-pasteurized milk I receive from local

farmers, from goat and sheep.

I never found borrelia in goat milk so far, but I often find borrelia

in sheep milk. Sheep are very much loved by ticks. Contaminated milk

test strong as 'no' for all my family: a strong 'don't take this'. I

warm it until they test ok, then prepare yoghurt and consume.

Selma

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>

> Hi,

> There is debate among researchers whether or not Lyme can be

> transmitted thru breast milk. I'm sure there are people who will

tell

> you that it is a certainty, but check out the credentials of who

tells

> you what.

>

> I am not a scientist, my reading of the research indicates that they

> just don't know.

> So I would say, NO it is not a foregone conclusion.

>

> As far as having your baby tested, I am not familiar with the

testing

> of babies. I do know that with adults, a positive test does indicate

> Lyme, a negative test does NOT rule it out.

>

> As far as herbs, again, I don't know anything about herbs and the

baby.

> Perhaps you could ask Buhner that. Someone on this list

should

> be able to tell you if is now answering questions on Planet

> Thrive.

>

> As you try to figure out this difficult question, I suggest you do

> anything you can to keep your baby's immune system in very good

shape.

> And if it were me, I would be very wary of getting vaccinations, as

> they can affect baby's immune system.

>

> Hope this helps some.

>

> ellen

> -- In , " chlobot " <erikncarren@>

wrote:

> >

> > I was bit a month ago & am now having symptoms. I've been

> > breastfeeding this whole time. Is transmission a forgone

conclusion?

> > Will the herbs I take help him? Should I have him tested?

> >

>

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I don't really know if it is transmitted through breast milk, but I

definitely wouldn't stop breastfeeding. It may be that you are giving

your baby spirochetes, but I am sure that the breast milk is the best

thing for keeping him/her strong. My children have lyme, I think, I

had it when I carried them so I would guess that is when they got it.

I am not testing my children, because I am pretty sure and the tests

are expensive. I am just treating them gently and if they show more

symptoms as they grow, I will treat them as strongly as their little

bodies will allow. I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

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IF as you say, YOU PROBABLY gave your kids Lyme, & nbsp; WHY would you encourage

someone else to keep breastfeeding? & nbsp; WHY?

& nbsp;

Jim.

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From: dawnof77 & lt;dawnof77@... & gt;

Subject: [ ] Re: Is my baby screwed?

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 3:22 AM

I don't really know if it is transmitted through breast milk, but I

definitely wouldn't stop breastfeeding. It may be that you are giving

your baby spirochetes, but I am sure that the breast milk is the best

thing for keeping him/her strong. My children have lyme, I think, I

had it when I carried them so I would guess that is when they got it.

I am not testing my children, because I am pretty sure and the tests

are expensive. I am just treating them gently and if they show more

symptoms as they grow, I will treat them as strongly as their little

bodies will allow. I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

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Thanks, Selma,

My bad!

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> > >

> > > I was bit a month ago & am now having symptoms. I've been

> > > breastfeeding this whole time. Is transmission a forgone

> conclusion?

> > > Will the herbs I take help him? Should I have him tested?

> > >

> >

>

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that study Selma posted--concluded that URINE testing can be used for PCRs for

Lyme--and ONLY 2 women with bullseye rahses even had breast milk that tested

positive--period and since then, scant studies about it.No comparison's of

other's with neg milk etc

what that means is that its POSSIBLE to have spirochetes in breast milk but NOT

the likelihood, or the amount. PLUS no one has shown that the baby swallowing

those chetes can be INFECTED--the baby may simply digest them...and MANY studies

show that for infection the chetes have to go thru another host and go thru

changes in that hosts system ( i,e the tick's gut/glands). to be infective

meaning able to be passed along and cause harm.

so is it possible for the Lyme to be in breats milk?? yes...what does that

mean??? who knows!!!! but its NOT " proven " that its a way to infect others by

any stretch of the imagination. as Selma correctly pointed out presence doesnt

guarantee infection.

would I breastfeed..NO--for me too big a risk but for YOU it also means youre

baby isnt necessarily? " screwed " .

Im more worried about what drugs and/or herbs youre taking that easily passes

into milk!!! thats a much bigger risk!!

for that reason alone Id stop nursing ( and Im so pro nursing I was a La Leche

team leader!!!)

Finette

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I have seen postings where people said their babies had lyme, and some had

breastfed and some had not. With all the knowledge I have come across, I say

breastfead. It improves immunity, and every baby needs that. Plus, if you

were to read about formula, you will find that its full of neuro-toxins, BT

from GMO and MSG, yes MSG. Its awful. Plus the horrendous gmo hormones they

give cows which goes into their milk. Breastfead.

Heidi N

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