RE: Re: OT: Adrenals

[Guest guest]

I really agree with the deep resting and keeping stress as far away as possible.

I've used Holy Basil, DHEA, and Pregnenolone to help my adrenals. As well as

using compounded Estrogen and Progesterone. I believe my adrenals are doing

better because I've been able to drop the Estrogen. I'm hoping eventually I'll

be able to drop all the hormones, but for now they really make a difference.

Connie

[ ] Re: OT: Adrenals

There are many ways to rebuild the adrenals:

learning to balance the parasympathetic nervous system with the sympathetic

nervous system seems to be an important priority.

This includes a lot of rest, meditation, deep relaxation. Minimizing stress as

much as possible.

I'm surprised sometimes when i hear people say that watching t.v. or being on a

computer consititutes rest.....it really doesn't when it comes to deeply

stopping the mind and body and finding nourishment from within.

There's nothing wrong with doing things that are fun, and each of us has our

ways of doing that, but i would not confuse " fun " with the deep rest that is

needed to recharge the adrenals.

Some of the things i find helpful are: (sorry dear vegan friends) eating small

amounts of animal protein throughout the day (yes, i miss being a vegan, yet

realized it wasn't working for this body).....

eating very nutrient-rich foods, small amounts frequently.

Putting my feet on the earth, spending time in quiet and in nature.

Rhodiola Rosea

Eleuthero tincture

Ashwagandha (if it tests positive....i find muscle testing helpful to discern

this)

and some of the nutrients that others have mentioned in various supplement

combinations.

Then there are other herbs that help to calm and support the nervous system,

such as skullcap, oatseed or oat straw, licorice root for some people, nettles,

wood betony, blue vervain. The list goes on.

Then there are more subtle levels of paying attention. Really listening to what

is it that nourishes (on any level) and what is it that is draining?

I find that saying " yes " to aliveness and well being often means saying " no " to

things that don't feel calming and supportive.

Quiet and rest seem to be the most nourishing for this body recently.

Peace, ease.....and deep rest....

yarrow

[Guest guest]

I think so... But I'm not exactly sure what " post " means.

Connie

[ ] Re: OT: Adrenals

Is it possible to get off compounded hormones if you're post menopausal?

Vicki

[Guest guest]

post usually means > 1 year without a period.

~dory

From: Connie Blaze <connieblaz@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: Adrenals

Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 12:06 PM

 

I think so... But I'm not exactly sure what " post " means.

Connie

[ ] Re: OT: Adrenals

Is it possible to get off compounded hormones if you're post menopausal?

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Vicki, I have tried a couple of times to stop the bio's but realllllly

noticed that I still needed them. Have you had a comprehensive blood test by

a dr that will prescribe the meds? The dr and I keep trying to lower meds

but after a short time, the estrogen needs to go back up.

Basically, getting off the compounded hormones starts with how you feel when

you don't take them. If you feel " quite lovely " then you're good to go

unless the doc thinks other wise. Me, I'm not ready to give them up quite

yet. Maybe when my thyroid and bugs get on the same page I can reduce them

again.

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Subject: [ ] Re: OT: Adrenals

Is it possible to get off compounded hormones if you're post menopausal?

Vicki

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[Guest guest]

I never had hot flashes, which I attribute to the use of Vitex-chasteberry,

beginning before menopause & continuing after...

[ ] Re: OT: Adrenals

Vicki,

re: " I know many women who go through menopause and eventually get over the hot

flashes without hormones. "

I had the worst hot flashes and sweating with menopause.

I'd open the window in the middle of the window, and next minute I'd have the

heat on and be under a blanket with the chills.

I'd tell myself just wait, cuz the flas would soon turn into a chill, but the

changes in temperature were so intense I was always opening and closing windows.

And it surprised me bec. I had gone thru my many menstrals over the years with

little discomfort. So I had expected to sail thru menopause. As some women do.

I didn't entertain taking hormones bec. some of the hormones come with increased

risk of various cancers, as well as stroke and heart disease.

I tried many many herbs to no avail.

Finally, what worked for me was when I read that in Japanese they have no word

for hot flashes.

So - even tho I know there are problems with eating too much soy, I started

eating soy products instead of chicken.

(Unless organic, chickens have hormones, so perhaps that was affecting me.)

Finally my hot flashes and drenching sweats went away.

I also found that drinking coffee increased the hot flashes, but I was never

able to totally give that up.

good luck to you in finding something that works.

ellen

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> > > Vicki, I have tried a couple of times to stop the bio's but realllllly

> > > noticed that I still needed them. Have you had a comprehensive blood test

by

> > > a dr that will prescribe the meds? The dr and I keep trying to lower meds

> > > but after a short time, the estrogen needs to go back up.

> > >

> > > Basically, getting off the compounded hormones starts with how you feel

when

> > > you don't take them. If you feel " quite lovely " then you're good to go

> > > unless the doc thinks other wise. Me, I'm not ready to give them up quite

> > > yet. Maybe when my thyroid and bugs get on the same page I can reduce them

> > > again.

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