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Hi Sally,

not sure if your question is for me - but if it is -

I was diagnosed with chronic disseminated Lyme. I used Buhner's

protocol for 3 months plus a couple of weeks on another immune

booster. . After the treatment I feel 98% or so like before Lyme.

I still have some pain in my knee when I climb stairs, that could be

permanent damage or - more likely - it could be something I could heal

if I took the time to deal with it, but for the moment I live with it.

I don't quite understand the question you ask- I'm sure there are many

means out there to boost one's immune system.

regards,

ellen

> >

> > Had to copy and paste it.

> > ANTIBIOTICS: Their role in Declining American Health

> >

> > " It is ironic that this humbled fungus, hailed as a benefactor of

> mankind, may by its very success prove to be a deciding factor in the

> decline of the present civilization. "

> > ~Dr. I. Pitt, The Genus Penicillum, Academic Press, 1979

> >

> > Antibiotics are indiscriminant killers of bacteria. Not only do they

> kill " bad " bacteria but the beneficial bacteria that live in the

> intestines as well. This imbalance of organisms can cause a disruption

> of digestion, decreasing our ability to properly absorb nutrients from

> foods, and makes us more vulnerable to pathogens, especially yeast.

> These unfriendly organisms rapidly repopulate the gastrointestinal

> tract and wreak havoc, causing additional infections that can occur in

> almost any region or organ of the body.

> >

> > Our good bacteria makes up 75% of our immune system and is our first

> line of defense against illness. Think of it as our home land

> security. Each time we take an antibiotic, we are " taking out " a good

> portion of this security and leaving ourselves open to further

> assaults. Doing this over and over again results is declining health.

> >

> > We've all run to the doctors from time to time when we've not felt

> well. Often times we end up leaving the doctor's office with a

> prescription for an antibiotic even if that wasn't what was needed to

> resolve our current health problem.

> >

> > Antibiotics given for viral infections such as the common cold,

> upper respiratory tract infections and bronchitis are pointless

> because antibiotics do not kill viral infections. However, doctors may

> resort to giving antibiotics so the patient won't leave empty handed

> or because the patient is adamant that this is what is needed. Either

> way, this is a prescription for disaster.

> >

> > Antibiotic resistance is becoming a major concern and is increasing

> worldwide. Here in the US we take an estimated 133 million antibiotic

> prescriptions per year, according to the government accounting office.

> A full ½ of these prescriptions are not needed according to current

> estimates. Many of these are given to fight viral infections.

> >

> > Although there use in humans is the biggest contributor of

> antibiotic resistance, it has been reported that 70% of the

> antibiotics produced in the USA each year are fed to our livestock

> (pigs, chickens, and cattle). This information is cause for further

> concern.

> >

> > Is the excessive use of antibiotics connected to escalating rates of

> illness (esp. autoimmune diseases) in the US and throughout the world?

> There are some experts that think there is indeed a connection.

> >

> > Antibiotics in Livestock

> >

> > Antibiotics have been used extensively in agriculture since the

> 1960s. Most are not given for disease prevention, but as growth

> promoters. Healthy farm animals are estimated to receive an astounding

> 50% to 70% of all antibiotics produced in the US.

> >

> > The practice of giving livestock antibiotics has also come under

> scrutiny from those who believe that it does increase the likelihood

> of antibiotic resistance in humans.

> >

> > Could eating meat and poultry from animals that have been given

> antibiotics ultimately affect our good bacteria and lead to yeast

> overgrowth? The jury is still out on that one, but there are experts

> who believe this trend could be a threat to our health! Lets not

> forget that animals today are often given growth hormones as well.

> >

> > Breast cancer and other cancers are on the rise. Could antibiotics

> and growth hormones given to fatten cattle and other livestock be

> partially responsible for the increased cancer statistics? Again, some

> think so!

> >

> > For more on antibiotics, fungus and their effects on our health, we

> recommend checking out this link:

> > Know-the-Cause. com You can also view recorded shows by the host,

> Doug Kaufmann!

> > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic

> > Messages

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Thank you Ellen. I'm asking specifically what other than what might be mentioned

in the book. Where does one go to find that info? Would that be the Buhner list

or are there other resources you or anyone can recommend? Thank you... Sally

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From: " rasheedaas " <rasheedaas@...>

Hi Sally,

not sure if your question is for me - but if it is -

I was diagnosed with chronic disseminated Lyme. I used Buhner's

protocol for 3 months plus a couple of weeks on another immune

booster. . After the treatment I feel 98% or so like before Lyme.

I still have some pain in my knee when I climb stairs, that could be

permanent damage or - more likely - it could be something I could heal

if I took the time to deal with it, but for the moment I live with it.

I don't quite understand the question you ask- I'm sure there are many

means out there to boost one's immune system.

regards,

ellen

> >

> > Had to copy and paste it.

> > ANTIBIOTICS: Their role in Declining American Health

> >

> > " It is ironic that this humbled fungus, hailed as a benefactor of

> mankind, may by its very success prove to be a deciding factor in the

> decline of the present civilization. "

> > ~Dr. I. Pitt, The Genus Penicillum, Academic Press, 1979

> >

> > Antibiotics are indiscriminant killers of bacteria. Not only do they

> kill " bad " bacteria but the beneficial bacteria that live in the

> intestines as well. This imbalance of organisms can cause a disruption

> of digestion, decreasing our ability to properly absorb nutrients from

> foods, and makes us more vulnerable to pathogens, especially yeast.

> These unfriendly organisms rapidly repopulate the gastrointestinal

> tract and wreak havoc, causing additional infections that can occur in

> almost any region or organ of the body.

> >

> > Our good bacteria makes up 75% of our immune system and is our first

> line of defense against illness. Think of it as our home land

> security. Each time we take an antibiotic, we are " taking out " a good

> portion of this security and leaving ourselves open to further

> assaults. Doing this over and over again results is declining health.

> >

> > We've all run to the doctors from time to time when we've not felt

> well. Often times we end up leaving the doctor's office with a

> prescription for an antibiotic even if that wasn't what was needed to

> resolve our current health problem.

> >

> > Antibiotics given for viral infections such as the common cold,

> upper respiratory tract infections and bronchitis are pointless

> because antibiotics do not kill viral infections. However, doctors may

> resort to giving antibiotics so the patient won't leave empty handed

> or because the patient is adamant that this is what is needed. Either

> way, this is a prescription for disaster.

> >

> > Antibiotic resistance is becoming a major concern and is increasing

> worldwide. Here in the US we take an estimated 133 million antibiotic

> prescriptions per year, according to the government accounting office.

> A full ½ of these prescriptions are not needed according to current

> estimates. Many of these are given to fight viral infections.

> >

> > Although there use in humans is the biggest contributor of

> antibiotic resistance, it has been reported that 70% of the

> antibiotics produced in the USA each year are fed to our livestock

> (pigs, chickens, and cattle). This information is cause for further

> concern.

> >

> > Is the excessive use of antibiotics connected to escalating rates of

> illness (esp. autoimmune diseases) in the US and throughout the world?

> There are some experts that think there is indeed a connection.

> >

> > Antibiotics in Livestock

> >

> > Antibiotics have been used extensively in agriculture since the

> 1960s. Most are not given for disease prevention, but as growth

> promoters. Healthy farm animals are estimated to receive an astounding

> 50% to 70% of all antibiotics produced in the US.

> >

> > The practice of giving livestock antibiotics has also come under

> scrutiny from those who believe that it does increase the likelihood

> of antibiotic resistance in humans.

> >

> > Could eating meat and poultry from animals that have been given

> antibiotics ultimately affect our good bacteria and lead to yeast

> overgrowth? The jury is still out on that one, but there are experts

> who believe this trend could be a threat to our health! Lets not

> forget that animals today are often given growth hormones as well.

> >

> > Breast cancer and other cancers are on the rise. Could antibiotics

> and growth hormones given to fatten cattle and other livestock be

> partially responsible for the increased cancer statistics? Again, some

> think so!

> >

> > For more on antibiotics, fungus and their effects on our health, we

> recommend checking out this link:

> > Know-the-Cause. com You can also view recorded shows by the host,

> Doug Kaufmann!

> > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic

> > Messages

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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> hello. i need help starting the protocol. any advise is welcome. thanks

>

first advice: buy the Buhner book!! don't start the protocol based on just some

snippets of advice on the web.

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Does everyone that does the buhner protocol take all the herbs at once, i looked

in the book but did not see, maybe overlooked. I have been taking the herbs

three times a day all at the same time, but I figured I better ask just in

case..:)

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> Does everyone that does the buhner protocol take all the herbs at once, i

looked in the book but did not see, maybe overlooked. I have been taking the

herbs three times a day all at the same time, but I figured I better ask just in

case..:)

Buhner suggests taking the catsclaw separately, best 30 minutes or so before a

meal. This is because it needs sufficient stomach acid to release the alkaloids

from the herb (it is more like wood, actually ...). If you take catsclaw

together with food you probably don't get the full benefit.

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