Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 i have had cysts on my ovaries that burst, spurs on my heels that disolved i think thats about it for me! Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Hi all, thanks for all your prayers and encouragement; after the initial shock, I guess I have time to really do some research and listen to other's stories. It's just that I was so stunned, thinking it was just a " retake " , that I was thrown for a loop....nothing comes easy in my family and I don't have time for this......I've got enough going on with all of 's appointments! I don't have time to be sick. Usually from what I've been hearing, the cysts are benign and nothing further is done unless you complain of severe pain, in which case they can drain the liquid ones and remove the solid ones. I would not want anything done surgically, as nothing hurts me......I've always believed if it ain't broke, don't fix it, why start messing around? Being a control freak, I hate the wait, but here I go....again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Becky, I'm so sorry (and you) are going through this! Is she feeling any better? Which BC did they put her on? If it happens to be one of Chris' products, he is a Rep for Ortho and can make sure her doc is well-stocked with samples if she is in his territory. Keep us posted! Mom to Conner (11, Asperger's, mild CP, partial seizures, asthma, GERD, immunodeficiency-SCIG, and now adrenal insufficiency), Hayden (11, PDD-NOS, IBS and moderate hearing loss/aided), Evan (11, asthma and mild hearing loss/unaided), and Kelsey - (9 going on 19!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 ....for breast lumps, how much Lugols does one paint on? how long will it take for the lump to disappear, tia, sandra <slyan2007@...> wrote: HIMy husband has a large lump on back of neck, he says sometimes pus comes out of it. So i'm assuming a cyst, i have small cyst like lump on neck also.Do you think painting lugol's on daily will get rid of these. I scratched mine accidently with a comb once and it developed into this large pusey lump that i treated with zinc oxide i think. well zinc something.I've heard how people get rid of lumps in breasts, just wondered if it would work the same. Going to try it anyway. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 It's worth a try. Iodine is anti microbial and bacterial so I would think it would. It won't hurt. Steph Cysts > HI > > My husband has a large lump on back of neck, he says sometimes pus > comes out of it. So i'm assuming a cyst, i have small cyst like lump > on neck also. > > Do you think painting lugol's on daily will get rid of these. I > scratched mine accidently with a comb once and it developed into this > large pusey lump that i treated with zinc oxide i think. well zinc > something. > > I've heard how people get rid of lumps in breasts, just wondered if it > would work the same. Going to try it anyway. > > > > > > Iodine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 >From: " ladybugsandbees " <ladybugsandbees@...> >It's worth a try. Iodine is anti microbial and bacterial so I would think >it would. It won't hurt. Dr. Derry said that Lugol's Solution would work on sebaceous cysts, among other kinds. The one kind he said it wouldn't work on were ganglion cysts, and he considered that because of where they were and how hard it was to deliver it to the right spot. He said they tend to break up, but not dissolve completely. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gr\ atitude & FORM=WLMTAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Skipper, I have a sabaceous cyst I'd like to try this on. Do you know if there is any special way to apply it? Would I just paint it on? If so, how often? Thank you. Shelli Re: Cysts Dr. Derry said that Lugol's Solution would work on sebaceous cysts, among other kinds. The one kind he said it wouldn't work on were ganglion cysts, and he considered that because of where they were and how hard it was to deliver it to the right spot. He said they tend to break up, but not dissolve completely.Skipper .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 >From: " Shelli " <merk4@...> >Skipper, >I have a sabaceous cyst I'd like to try this on. Do you know if there is >any special way to apply it? Would I just paint it on? If so, how often? >Thank you. Just put a couple drops on the cyst, and rub it in. Usually, it's on the head and you have to be sure to find a way through the hair. I have one, and I start to get rid of it, but then forget, after it goes down abit. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine\ -msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=hmtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 So like once a day? Or would twice be better? Shelli Re: Cysts >From: "Shelli" <merk4insightbb>>Skipper,>I have a sabaceous cyst I'd like to try this on. Do you know if there is >any special way to apply it? Would I just paint it on? If so, how often?>Thank you.Just put a couple drops on the cyst, and rub it in. Usually, it's on the head and you have to be sure to find a way through the hair. I have one, and I start to get rid of it, but then forget, after it goes down abit.Skipper__________________________________________________________Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us & source=hmtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 >From: " Shelli " <merk4@...> >So like once a day? Or would twice be better? >Shelli If I could remember I'd do it twice a day. Eventually, you might feel it burning though. I just work my way through that. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Thanks. I'm not sure I'll remember either but I will try! Shelli Re: Cysts > >From: " Shelli " <merk4@...> > >>So like once a day? Or would twice be better? >>Shelli > > If I could remember I'd do it twice a day. Eventually, you might feel it > burning though. I just work my way through that. > > Skipper > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I don't mean to butt in here; but I have one of these on my scalp the size of a large pea, and will certainly try this! I almost had my Derm take it off, but backed out. Also have another tiny one just starting up. Luckily I have dark hair! > > >From: " ladybugsandbees " <ladybugsandbees@...> > > >It's worth a try. Iodine is anti microbial and bacterial so I would think > >it would. It won't hurt. > > Dr. Derry said that Lugol's Solution would work on sebaceous cysts, among > other kinds. The one kind he said it wouldn't work on were ganglion cysts, > and he considered that because of where they were and how hard it was to > deliver it to the right spot. He said they tend to break up, but not > dissolve completely. > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into > something more. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gr\ atitude & FORM=WLMTAG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Someone said coconut oil would be good for putting on wounds, even the hospital resistant ones. On Feb 12, 2007, at 6:40 AM, wrote: > My husband has a large lump on back of neck, he says sometimes pus > comes out of it. So i'm assuming a cyst, i have small cyst like lump > on neck also. > > Do you think painting lugol's on daily will get rid of these. I > scratched mine accidently with a comb once and it developed into this > large pusey lump that i treated with zinc oxide i think. well zinc > something. Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Sally, it is my understanding that the spirochetes convert into cysts whenever they sense a hostile environment of any kind. Then, conventional Lyme medicine says that the only thing that kills the cysts is Flagyl or Tindamax (Tinidazole). Surely others know much more than I and will post as well. ~Muriel [ ] cysts I read that some antibiotics (in particular penicillins) can encourage the bacteria to convert into cysts. Is this true? Then what other conditions contribute (unfavorable environments) to conversion into cysts? Thank you... Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Hi Sally, I can't remember if anyone's mentioned this recently, but Rosner's books (Lyme Disease and Rife Machines, and The Top 10 Lyme Disease Treatments) have a good, easy-to-read explanation of what sends Lyme into cyst form and what doesn't. You can find them at lymebooks.com. The books are full of great information and WELL worth owning if you have Lyme. Becky > [ ] cysts > > > > I read that some antibiotics (in particular penicillins) can encourage > the bacteria to convert into cysts. Is this true? Then what other > conditions contribute (unfavorable environments) to conversion into > cysts? Thank you... Sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Thank you for your answers. I have ordered the one book (10 treatments) and will see what it says. I am specifically wondering (1) what antibiotics would send it into cyst form (thinking thats a bad thing) (2) what other hostile environments send it into cyst form. Wondering if these women I have met who have had not treatemtent abx or alternative med would have dormant lyme in cyst form or what? (one who suffered for 15 years and the other who has had no symptoms for 5 years since tick bite and rash) Or if they cleared it... if it's not actively swimming around, then it's hiding in what form? And what makes it go there? Does it automatically go into cyst form as part of its life cycle? When it gets into tissues and white blood cells, is it in cyst form or just hiding out as a spirocyte doing damage they are not aware of or doing no damage while hiding out in spirocyte form? I'm thinking cyst form is more dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong... Maybe it's just another form that has to be addressed and is not always addressed... then... how do alternative treatments address cysts? They can't stay in that form forever, so they are addressed when they come out? Are some saying that alternative measures do not actually kill the spirocyte, just mask the symptoms? Then do antibiotics drive the spirocyte into a harder to treat cyst form? Thank you... Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Sally- If you read the material regarding the microbiology I sent you, you will get accurate answers to your questions that you have posed for the last week. It is very dangerous to take the word of amateur scientists. When I was first learning about this mess it was very frustrating because I kept getting conflicting answers from sufferers. I decided to learn the microbiology as much as I could comprehend by reading. I then wrote down all my questions and then I called the researchers myself. Take care- Torrey klcst@...<mailto:klcst@...> Lifelyme of Texas www.lifelyme.org<http://www.lifelyme.org/> Re: [ ] Re: cysts Thank you for your answers. I have ordered the one book (10 treatments) and will see what it says. I am specifically wondering (1) what antibiotics would send it into cyst form (thinking thats a bad thing) (2) what other hostile environments send it into cyst form. Wondering if these women I have met who have had not treatemtent abx or alternative med would have dormant lyme in cyst form or what? (one who suffered for 15 years and the other who has had no symptoms for 5 years since tick bite and rash) Or if they cleared it... if it's not actively swimming around, then it's hiding in what form? And what makes it go there? Does it automatically go into cyst form as part of its life cycle? When it gets into tissues and white blood cells, is it in cyst form or just hiding out as a spirocyte doing damage they are not aware of or doing no damage while hiding out in spirocyte form? I'm thinking cyst form is more dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong... Maybe it's just another form that has to be addressed and is not always addressed... then... how do alternative treatments address cysts? They can't stay in that form forever, so they are addressed when they come out? Are some saying that alternative measures do not actually kill the spirocyte, just mask the symptoms? Then do antibiotics drive the spirocyte into a harder to treat cyst form? Thank you... Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 From what I understand, the cyst form is not where you want the spirochetes to go-- for one thing, they multiply in that form and can't be reached by by antibiotics or other methods, let alone a compromised immune system. Most, if not all, antibiotics drive the spirochete into cyst form at some point and even alternative methods can as well if not used properly. Yes, those methods do kill spirochetes, but if used for too long at one time, will send what's not killed into cyst form where they can't be reached. That's the form the spirochetes use to preserve themselves, and they will stay in that form as long as there is a threat to their well-being. When the threat is gone (when abx are stopped for long enough, or whatever it was that sent them there) they will then break open and wreak havoc again. This is what causes Lyme relapses. This is a very inadequate explanation of things (it's too detailed to go into without writing a book ), but a taste of the interesting things you'll find if you keep researching and reading. It's fascinating. I personally found the answers to these questions in 's books, so am glad you're getting at least one of them. If you can get your hands on his first book, I'd definitely get that one as well. It's not one to skip. You do not have to do Rife to get a lot out of it. I've also heard that Buhner's book Healing Lyme has a good explanation of the disease and how it works. I haven't read it yet myself, though. also talks about ways to draw the cyst form out, which is a great thing to know. Ultimately, the only thing that can completely kill off a case of Lyme Disease is your own immune system. Some folks who get bit by a Lyme tick don't get the disease or the nasty co-infections-- why? Their immune systems recognize the bad pathogen and destroy right away. Getting the immune system back into shape, back to recognizing the bad pathogen and killing it all, is the only thing I know of that can beat this disease completely. Hope this helps some. Take care Becky P.S. If I've missed something or written something wrongly here, I hope someone else who has read 's books feels free to correct me. P.S.S. Thanks for posting 's new link! I see I got the one I posted wrong anyway... it's: lymebook.com. Sorry about that. > > Thank you for your answers. I have ordered the one book (10 treatments) and will see what it says. I am specifically wondering (1) what antibiotics would send it into cyst form (thinking thats a bad thing) (2) what other hostile environments send it into cyst form. > Wondering if these women I have met who have had not treatemtent abx or alternative med would have dormant lyme in cyst form or what? (one who suffered for 15 years and the other who has had no symptoms for 5 years since tick bite and rash) Or if they cleared it... if it's not actively swimming around, then it's hiding in what form? And what makes it go there? Does it automatically go into cyst form as part of its life cycle? When it gets into tissues and white blood cells, is it in cyst form or just hiding out as a spirocyte doing damage they are not aware of or doing no damage while hiding out in spirocyte form? > I'm thinking cyst form is more dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong... Maybe it's just another form that has to be addressed and is not always addressed... then... how do alternative treatments address cysts? They can't stay in that form forever, so they are addressed when they come out? Are some saying that alternative measures do not actually kill the spirocyte, just mask the symptoms? > Then do antibiotics drive the spirocyte into a harder to treat cyst form? > Thank you... Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Sally, in my second paragraph I meant to say: " SOME alternative methods can [send the spirochete into cyst form] as well if not used properly " . Not all alternative methods send it into cyst form. Thanks, becky > > From what I understand, the cyst form is not where you want the > spirochetes to go-- for one thing, they multiply in that form and > can't be reached by by antibiotics or other methods, let alone a > compromised immune system. > > Most, if not all, antibiotics drive the spirochete into cyst form at > some point and even alternative methods can as well if not used > properly. Yes, those methods do kill spirochetes, but if used for too > long at one time, will send what's not killed into cyst form where > they can't be reached. That's the form the spirochetes use to > preserve themselves, and they will stay in that form as long as there > is a threat to their well-being. When the threat is gone (when abx > are stopped for long enough, or whatever it was that sent them there) > they will then break open and wreak havoc again. This is what causes > Lyme relapses. > > This is a very inadequate explanation of things (it's too detailed to > go into without writing a book ), but a taste of the interesting > things you'll find if you keep researching and reading. It's > fascinating. I personally found the answers to these questions in > 's books, so am glad you're getting at least one of them. If you > can get your hands on his first book, I'd definitely get that one as > well. It's not one to skip. You do not have to do Rife to get a lot > out of it. I've also heard that Buhner's book Healing Lyme > has a good explanation of the disease and how it works. I haven't > read it yet myself, though. > > also talks about ways to draw the cyst form out, which is a > great thing to know. > > Ultimately, the only thing that can completely kill off a case of Lyme > Disease is your own immune system. Some folks who get bit by a Lyme > tick don't get the disease or the nasty co-infections-- why? Their > immune systems recognize the bad pathogen and destroy right away. > Getting the immune system back into shape, back to recognizing the bad > pathogen and killing it all, is the only thing I know of that can beat > this disease completely. > > Hope this helps some. > Take care > Becky > > P.S. If I've missed something or written something wrongly here, I > hope someone else who has read 's books feels free to correct me. > > P.S.S. Thanks for posting 's new link! I see I got the > one I posted wrong anyway... it's: lymebook.com. Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 I am rushing to get these out before my internet connection goes out and my children have been right up under me... I am SEEING an OD... right not= right now. -------------- Original message -------------- From: creekhopper@... > Thanks, Becky. I'll order that other book. I also have access to a rife machine > that my sister owns. I was wondering if antibiotics created a hostile > environment, then would alternatives that attack? the bacteria... would our > antibodies, themselves? I'm on antbiotics because that is all I know to do right > not and because I have felt safer on them than off. I am not convinced on way or > the other... tend to be inclined to integrated... I am an OD who specializes in > Chinese meds and herbals as well as a LLMD (finally figured that one out). Yes, > I know people disagree on whether the cyst form can replicate... Sally > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " Becky " > From what I understand, the cyst form is not where you want the > spirochetes to go-- for one thing, they multiply in that form and > can't be reached by by antibiotics or other methods, let alone a > compromised immune system. > > Most, if not all, antibiotics drive the spirochete into cyst form at > some point and even alternative methods can as well if not used > properly. Yes, those methods do kill spirochetes, but if used for too > long at one time, will send what's not killed into cyst form where > they can't be reached. That's the form the spirochetes use to > preserve themselves, and they will stay in that form as long as there > is a threat to their well-being. When the threat is gone (when abx > are stopped for long enough, or whatever it was that sent them there) > they will then break open and wreak havoc again. This is what causes > Lyme relapses. > > This is a very inadequate explanation of things (it's too detailed to > go into without writing a book ), but a taste of the interesting > things you'll find if you keep researching and reading. It's > fascinating. I personally found the answers to these questions in > 's books, so am glad you're getting at least one of them. If you > can get your hands on his first book, I'd definitely get that one as > well. It's not one to skip. You do not have to do Rife to get a lot > out of it. I've also heard that Buhner's book Healing Lyme > has a good explanation of the disease and how it works. I haven't > read it yet myself, though. > > also talks about ways to draw the cyst form out, which is a > great thing to know. > > Ultimately, the only thing that can completely kill off a case of Lyme > Disease is your own immune system. Some folks who get bit by a Lyme > tick don't get the disease or the nasty co-infections-- why? Their > immune systems recognize the bad pathogen and destroy right away. > Getting the immune system back into shape, back to recognizing the bad > pathogen and killing it all, is the only thing I know of that can beat > this disease completely. > > Hope this helps some. > Take care > Becky > > P.S. If I've missed something or written something wrongly here, I > hope someone else who has read 's books feels free to correct me. > > P.S.S. Thanks for posting 's new link! I see I got the > one I posted wrong anyway... it's: lymebook.com. Sorry about that. > > > > > > > Thank you for your answers. I have ordered the one book (10 > treatments) and will see what it says. I am specifically wondering (1) > what antibiotics would send it into cyst form (thinking thats a bad > thing) (2) what other hostile environments send it into cyst form. > > Wondering if these women I have met who have had not treatemtent abx > or alternative med would have dormant lyme in cyst form or what? (one > who suffered for 15 years and the other who has had no symptoms for 5 > years since tick bite and rash) Or if they cleared it... if it's not > actively swimming around, then it's hiding in what form? And what > makes it go there? Does it automatically go into cyst form as part of > its life cycle? When it gets into tissues and white blood cells, is it > in cyst form or just hiding out as a spirocyte doing damage they are > not aware of or doing no damage while hiding out in spirocyte form? > > I'm thinking cyst form is more dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong... > Maybe it's just another form that has to be addressed and is not > always addressed... then... how do alternative treatments address > cysts? They can't stay in that form forever, so they are addressed > when they come out? Are some saying that alternative measures do not > actually kill the spirocyte, just mask the symptoms? > > Then do antibiotics drive the spirocyte into a harder to treat cyst > form? > > Thank you... Sally > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 and don't we all " reuetions ad " ? :-D I think I meant: read. --------- Re: [ ] Re: cysts Thank you for your answers. I have ordered the one book (10 treatments) and will see what it says. I am specifically wondering (1) what antibiotics would send it into cyst form (thinking thats a bad thing) (2) what other hostile environments send it into cyst form. Wondering if these women I have met who have had not treatemtent abx or alternative med would have dormant lyme in cyst form or what? (one who suffered for 15 years and the other who has had no symptoms for 5 years since tick bite and rash) Or if they cleared it... if it's not actively swimming around, then it's hiding in what form? And what makes it go there? Does it automatically go into cyst form as part of its life cycle? When it gets into tissues and white blood cells, is it in cyst form or just hiding out as a spirocyte doing damage they are not aware of or doing no damage while hiding out in spirocyte form? I'm thinking cyst form is more dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong... Maybe it's just another form that has to be addressed and is not always addressed... then... how do alternative treatments address cysts? They can't stay in that form forever, so they are addressed when they come out? Are some saying that alternative measures do not actually kill the spirocyte, just mask the symptoms? Then do antibiotics drive the spirocyte into a harder to treat cyst form? Thank you... Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Thank you, Becky. Is this specific info in 's books I am ordering or can you give me more info or point me in the right direction if not in the book? Thanks! Sally -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Becky " <beckllen@...> Sally, in my second paragraph I meant to say: " SOME alternative methods can [send the spirochete into cyst form] as well if not used properly " . Not all alternative methods send it into cyst form. Thanks, becky > > From what I understand, the cyst form is not where you want the > spirochetes to go-- for one thing, they multiply in that form and > can't be reached by by antibiotics or other methods, let alone a > compromised immune system. > > Most, if not all, antibiotics drive the spirochete into cyst form at > some point and even alternative methods can as well if not used > properly. Yes, those methods do kill spirochetes, but if used for too > long at one time, will send what's not killed into cyst form where > they can't be reached. That's the form the spirochetes use to > preserve themselves, and they will stay in that form as long as there > is a threat to their well-being. When the threat is gone (when abx > are stopped for long enough, or whatever it was that sent them there) > they will then break open and wreak havoc again. This is what causes > Lyme relapses. > > This is a very inadequate explanation of things (it's too detailed to > go into without writing a book ), but a taste of the interesting > things you'll find if you keep researching and reading. It's > fascinating. I personally found the answers to these questions in > 's books, so am glad you're getting at least one of them. If you > can get your hands on his first book, I'd definitely get that one as > well. It's not one to skip. You do not have to do Rife to get a lot > out of it. I've also heard that Buhner's book Healing Lyme > has a good explanation of the disease and how it works. I haven't > read it yet myself, though. > > also talks about ways to draw the cyst form out, which is a > great thing to know. > > Ultimately, the only thing that can completely kill off a case of Lyme > Disease is your own immune system. Some folks who get bit by a Lyme > tick don't get the disease or the nasty co-infections-- why? Their > immune systems recognize the bad pathogen and destroy right away. > Getting the immune system back into shape, back to recognizing the bad > pathogen and killing it all, is the only thing I know of that can beat > this disease completely. > > Hope this helps some. > Take care > Becky > > P.S. If I've missed something or written something wrongly here, I > hope someone else who has read 's books feels free to correct me. > > P.S.S. Thanks for posting 's new link! I see I got the > one I posted wrong anyway... it's: lymebook.com. Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Hi Sally Some alternatives that kill Lyme pathogen(s) don't create a threatening environment. Our antibodies don't either. I think that's what you're asking anyway? Becky > > > > Thank you for your answers. I have ordered the one book (10 > treatments) and will see what it says. I am specifically wondering (1) > what antibiotics would send it into cyst form (thinking thats a bad > thing) (2) what other hostile environments send it into cyst form. > > Wondering if these women I have met who have had not treatemtent abx > or alternative med would have dormant lyme in cyst form or what? (one > who suffered for 15 years and the other who has had no symptoms for 5 > years since tick bite and rash) Or if they cleared it... if it's not > actively swimming around, then it's hiding in what form? And what > makes it go there? Does it automatically go into cyst form as part of > its life cycle? When it gets into tissues and white blood cells, is it > in cyst form or just hiding out as a spirocyte doing damage they are > not aware of or doing no damage while hiding out in spirocyte form? > > I'm thinking cyst form is more dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong... > Maybe it's just another form that has to be addressed and is not > always addressed... then... how do alternative treatments address > cysts? They can't stay in that form forever, so they are addressed > when they come out? Are some saying that alternative measures do not > actually kill the spirocyte, just mask the symptoms? > > Then do antibiotics drive the spirocyte into a harder to treat cyst > form? > > Thank you... Sally > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Hi Sally Some alternatives that kill Lyme pathogen(s) don't create a threatening environment. Our antibodies don't either. I think that's what you're asking anyway? Becky > > Thanks, Becky. I'll order that other book. I also have access to a rife machine that my sister owns. I was wondering if antibiotics created a hostile environment, then would alternatives that attack? the bacteria... would our antibodies, themselves? I'm on antbiotics because that is all I know to do right not and because I have felt safer on them than off. I am not convinced on way or the other... tend to be inclined to integrated... I am an OD who specializes in Chinese meds and herbals as well as a LLMD (finally figured that one out). Yes, I know people disagree on whether the cyst form can replicate... Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear Sally, Not to speak for , I'm sure she'll speak for herself, but I don't think she is suggesting your questions are not welcome here. best, ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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