Guest guest Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I have been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and off for years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a small amt that day but by the next am better. than before. ________________________________ From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM Subject: [ ] IV silver Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why we're trying something different. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Did you take it orally for a while..did you herx hard on the iv? Did you use a frequency machine at same tie? where do you go for that...I live in Canada, never heard of it..very intereested...Leanne From: ksgoebel@... Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:25:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I have been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and off for years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a small amt that day but by the next am better. than before. ________________________________ From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM Subject: [ ] IV silver Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why we're trying something different. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 For me (I need the history posts to tie things together for me and reading ones without history mean nothing to me so that is why I am not deleting the history), The oral helped a lot but the detox was hard so I would go off it. I have been taking it on and off for years. While waiting for my daughter to have a baby in Hawaii where they live, I found a ND who does UVB therapy and felt that might be good for me and should not cause me to detox (since this was child 5). So I did that and found he also did ozone. He would take my blood (some not too much), run it through the UVB and I do not know the frequencies he used. After finishing getting the blood in the glass bottle, he would add ozone in the bottle, and swirl it around to get the ozone in the blood. He added it probably 6 times before all the blood went back into my body. The blood never left my side so I knew it was my blood. Then this last visit after birth of child 6, I went back to him. I chose to focus on building the immune system and doing what I felt was best for me since what is good for most is usually bad for me! I left my argentine 25 at home in North Carolina so I asked if he had it. He said yes but he has found a pharmacy who will " clean it up even more " so it can be put in via IV. He treats cancer patients that come over from far away. One was there and had treatments each day for 3 weeks. I never talked to this patient. I asked what the doctor's best testimony was. He said people with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who were told they had 2 weeks to live and that was years ago and they are still living. I did not ask much more other than about the treatment. I learned that Oregon has the best natural doctor laws. They are even allowed to do surgery there. I realize removing a mole is surgery. I did not ask about what surgeries they do. But if I had the money I would investigate Orgeon and the state of Washington for natural methods of treatment. If I lived there, he would have given me VIT C mineral IV but I can get that here. I can get UVB IV here but no ozone. He feels the ozone helps " kick " things in the butt quicker. ________________________________ From: K M <leemo555@...> Lyme Treatment Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 1:26:36 AM Subject: RE: [ ] IV silver Did you take it orally for a while..did you herx hard on the iv? Did you use a frequency machine at same tie? where do you go for that...I live in Canada, never heard of it..very intereested...Leanne From: ksgoebel@... Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:25:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I have been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and off for years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a small amt that day but by the next am better. than before. ________________________________ From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM Subject: [ ] IV silver Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why we're trying something different. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Oral/IV silver did absolutely nothing for me..... Jazzman [ ] IV silver Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why we're trying something different. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Hi Kathy, Could you email me privately with the Doctor who did the treatment on Stage 4 Pancreatic Cancer. My best friends brother just got diagnosed. He went to Mayo Clinic to see if they could surgically remove the tumor, but found out the tumor is growing thru the spleen and liver. Just wondering if this Doctor had any treatment that might be available to him. What is UVB treatment? Is that like a tanning booth? I also never have heard of argentine 25, is that for detoxing? Thanks so much for posting. Good Luck, hope you feel better. Dixie On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Kathy Goebel <ksgoebel@...> wrote: > > > For me (I need the history posts to tie things together for me and reading > ones > without history mean nothing to me so that is why I am not deleting the > history), The oral helped a lot but the detox was hard so I would go off > it. I > have been taking it on and off for years. > > While waiting for my daughter to have a baby in Hawaii where they live, I > found > a ND who does UVB therapy and felt that might be good for me and should not > > cause me to detox (since this was child 5). So I did that and found he also > did > ozone. He would take my blood (some not too much), run it through the UVB > and I > do not know the frequencies he used. After finishing getting the blood in > the > glass bottle, he would add ozone in the bottle, and swirl it around to get > the > ozone in the blood. He added it probably 6 times before all the blood went > back > into my body. The blood never left my side so I knew it was my blood. Then > this > last visit after birth of child 6, I went back to him. I chose to focus on > building the immune system and doing what I felt was best for me since what > is > good for most is usually bad for me! I left my argentine 25 at home in > North > Carolina so I asked if he had it. He said yes but he has found a pharmacy > who > will " clean it up even more " so it can be put in via IV. He treats cancer > patients that come over from far away. One was there and had treatments > each > day for 3 weeks. I never talked to this patient. I asked what the doctor's > best > testimony was. He said people with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who were told > they > had 2 weeks to live and that was years ago and they are still living. I did > not > ask much more other than about the treatment. I learned that Oregon has the > best > natural doctor laws. They are even allowed to do surgery there. I realize > removing a mole is surgery. I did not ask about what surgeries they do. But > if I > had the money I would investigate Orgeon and the state of Washington for > natural > methods of treatment. If I lived there, he would have given me VIT C > mineral IV > but I can get that here. I can get UVB IV here but no ozone. He feels the > ozone > helps " kick " things in the butt quicker. > > ________________________________ > From: K M <leemo555@...> > Lyme Treatment > Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 1:26:36 AM > Subject: RE: [ ] IV silver > > Did you take it orally for a while..did you herx hard on the iv? Did you > use a > frequency machine at same tie? where do you go for that...I live in Canada, > > never heard of it..very intereested...Leanne > > > From: ksgoebel@... > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:25:40 -0800 > Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver > > I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I have > > been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and off > for > years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a > little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a > small > amt that day but by the next am better. than before. > > ________________________________ > From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> > > Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM > Subject: [ ] IV silver > > Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? > Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so > that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV > silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? > > I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why > > we're trying something different. Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 interesting thanks Kathy.. Jay what type of cs did you use?? Leanne From: jay12@... Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:28:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver Oral/IV silver did absolutely nothing for me..... Jazzman [ ] IV silver Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why we're trying something different. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Kathy, Can you write me privately and let me know who this ND is that you see? Thanks , Maud On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Kathy Goebel wrote: > For me (I need the history posts to tie things together for me and reading ones > without history mean nothing to me so that is why I am not deleting the > history), The oral helped a lot but the detox was hard so I would go off it. I > have been taking it on and off for years. > > While waiting for my daughter to have a baby in Hawaii where they live, I found > a ND who does UVB therapy and felt that might be good for me and should not > cause me to detox (since this was child 5). So I did that and found he also did > ozone. He would take my blood (some not too much), run it through the UVB and I > do not know the frequencies he used. After finishing getting the blood in the > glass bottle, he would add ozone in the bottle, and swirl it around to get the > ozone in the blood. He added it probably 6 times before all the blood went back > into my body. The blood never left my side so I knew it was my blood. Then this > last visit after birth of child 6, I went back to him. I chose to focus on > building the immune system and doing what I felt was best for me since what is > good for most is usually bad for me! I left my argentine 25 at home in North > Carolina so I asked if he had it. He said yes but he has found a pharmacy who > will " clean it up even more " so it can be put in via IV. He treats cancer > patients that come over from far away. One was there and had treatments each > day for 3 weeks. I never talked to this patient. I asked what the doctor's best > testimony was. He said people with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who were told they > had 2 weeks to live and that was years ago and they are still living. I did not > ask much more other than about the treatment. I learned that Oregon has the best > natural doctor laws. They are even allowed to do surgery there. I realize > removing a mole is surgery. I did not ask about what surgeries they do. But if I > had the money I would investigate Orgeon and the state of Washington for natural > methods of treatment. If I lived there, he would have given me VIT C mineral IV > but I can get that here. I can get UVB IV here but no ozone. He feels the ozone > helps " kick " things in the butt quicker. > > ________________________________ > From: K M <leemo555@...> > Lyme Treatment > Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 1:26:36 AM > Subject: RE: [ ] IV silver > > Did you take it orally for a while..did you herx hard on the iv? Did you use a > frequency machine at same tie? where do you go for that...I live in Canada, > never heard of it..very intereested...Leanne > > > From: ksgoebel@... > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:25:40 -0800 > Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver > > I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I have > been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and off for > years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a > little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a small > amt that day but by the next am better. than before. > > ________________________________ > From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> > > Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM > Subject: [ ] IV silver > > Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? > Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so > that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV > silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? > > I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why > we're trying something different. Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Attached is some information on the clinic. There are many things they do that are not mentioned. Now years ago, I went through chelation IV in GA with a MD. He is natural focused. He worked on cancer patients. I asked someone if he used natural or what on cancer. They said, (I believe I heard) they found that lowering the blood sugar before using low dose chemo, then giving the chemo (low dose), and raising blood sugar the good cells were not affected like with regular chemo. Then in Hawaii when I found he was treating cancer, I mentioned what I thought I was told. He said that they use (rats..brain went foggy and can't remember name) what people went to Mexico for cancer treatments 15 or so years ago I believe from almonds) to lower the blood sugar. He said cancer is attracted to sugar. So then they put something to kill cancer in the body and mark it sugar (making the body thing it is sugar). The cancer gets excited thinking sugar is on the way, but then it goes into the cancer cells and hopefully kills the cancer. I did not go through the cancer treatments nor did I talk to patients. He has a clinic where people can go and stay and good food is fixed for them also. I am a bit distracted right now because my uncle is on his last hours due to COPD. So please ask questions if I have not been clear. I am also just a patient who loves hearing new things naturally for healing people...not a trained person. ________________________________ From: dixieleeo tds.net <dixieleeo@...> Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 9:26:27 PM Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver Hi Kathy, Could you email me privately with the Doctor who did the treatment on Stage 4 Pancreatic Cancer. My best friends brother just got diagnosed. He went to Mayo Clinic to see if they could surgically remove the tumor, but found out the tumor is growing thru the spleen and liver. Just wondering if this Doctor had any treatment that might be available to him. What is UVB treatment? Is that like a tanning booth? I also never have heard of argentine 25, is that for detoxing? Thanks so much for posting. Good Luck, hope you feel better. Dixie On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Kathy Goebel <ksgoebel@...> wrote: > > > For me (I need the history posts to tie things together for me and reading > ones > without history mean nothing to me so that is why I am not deleting the > history), The oral helped a lot but the detox was hard so I would go off > it. I > have been taking it on and off for years. > > While waiting for my daughter to have a baby in Hawaii where they live, I > found > a ND who does UVB therapy and felt that might be good for me and should not > > cause me to detox (since this was child 5). So I did that and found he also > did > ozone. He would take my blood (some not too much), run it through the UVB > and I > do not know the frequencies he used. After finishing getting the blood in > the > glass bottle, he would add ozone in the bottle, and swirl it around to get > the > ozone in the blood. He added it probably 6 times before all the blood went > back > into my body. The blood never left my side so I knew it was my blood. Then > this > last visit after birth of child 6, I went back to him. I chose to focus on > building the immune system and doing what I felt was best for me since what > is > good for most is usually bad for me! I left my argentine 25 at home in > North > Carolina so I asked if he had it. He said yes but he has found a pharmacy > who > will " clean it up even more " so it can be put in via IV. He treats cancer > patients that come over from far away. One was there and had treatments > each > day for 3 weeks. I never talked to this patient. I asked what the doctor's > best > testimony was. He said people with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who were told > they > had 2 weeks to live and that was years ago and they are still living. I did > not > ask much more other than about the treatment. I learned that Oregon has the > best > natural doctor laws. They are even allowed to do surgery there. I realize > removing a mole is surgery. I did not ask about what surgeries they do. But > if I > had the money I would investigate Orgeon and the state of Washington for > natural > methods of treatment. If I lived there, he would have given me VIT C > mineral IV > but I can get that here. I can get UVB IV here but no ozone. He feels the > ozone > helps " kick " things in the butt quicker. > > ________________________________ > From: K M <leemo555@...> > Lyme Treatment > Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 1:26:36 AM > Subject: RE: [ ] IV silver > > Did you take it orally for a while..did you herx hard on the iv? Did you > use a > frequency machine at same tie? where do you go for that...I live in Canada, > > never heard of it..very intereested...Leanne > > > From: ksgoebel@... > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:25:40 -0800 > Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver > > I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I have > > been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and off > for > years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a > little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a > small > amt that day but by the next am better. than before. > > ________________________________ > From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> > > Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM > Subject: [ ] IV silver > > Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? > Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so > that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV > silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? > > I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why > > we're trying something different. Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Kathy, I am sooooooooo sorry about your uncle. God Bless. Thanks for the information. Hugs, Dixie On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Kathy Goebel <ksgoebel@...> wrote: > > > Attached is some information on the clinic. There are many things they do > that > are not mentioned. > > Now years ago, I went through chelation IV in GA with a MD. He is natural > focused. He worked on cancer patients. I asked someone if he used natural > or > what on cancer. They said, (I believe I heard) they found that lowering the > > blood sugar before using low dose chemo, then giving the chemo (low dose), > and > raising blood sugar the good cells were not affected like with regular > chemo. > > Then in Hawaii when I found he was treating cancer, I mentioned what I > thought I > was told. He said that they use (rats..brain went foggy and can't remember > name) > what people went to Mexico for cancer treatments 15 or so years ago I > believe > from almonds) to lower the blood sugar. He said cancer is attracted to > sugar. So > then they put something to kill cancer in the body and mark it sugar > (making the > body thing it is sugar). The cancer gets excited thinking sugar is on the > way, > but then it goes into the cancer cells and hopefully kills the cancer. > > I did not go through the cancer treatments nor did I talk to patients. He > has a > clinic where people can go and stay and good food is fixed for them also. > > I am a bit distracted right now because my uncle is on his last hours due > to > COPD. So please ask questions if I have not been clear. > > I am also just a patient who loves hearing new things naturally for healing > > people...not a trained person. > > ________________________________ > From: dixieleeo tds.net <dixieleeo@...> > > > Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 9:26:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver > > Hi Kathy, > Could you email me privately with the Doctor who did the treatment on Stage > 4 > Pancreatic Cancer. > My best friends brother just got diagnosed. > He went to Mayo Clinic to see if they could surgically remove the tumor, > but > found out the tumor is growing thru the spleen and liver. > Just wondering if this Doctor had any treatment that might be available to > him. > What is UVB treatment? > Is that like a tanning booth? > I also never have heard of argentine 25, is that for detoxing? > Thanks so much for posting. > Good Luck, hope you feel better. > Dixie > > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Kathy Goebel <ksgoebel@...> wrote: > > > > > > > For me (I need the history posts to tie things together for me and > reading > > ones > > without history mean nothing to me so that is why I am not deleting the > > history), The oral helped a lot but the detox was hard so I would go off > > it. I > > have been taking it on and off for years. > > > > While waiting for my daughter to have a baby in Hawaii where they live, I > > found > > a ND who does UVB therapy and felt that might be good for me and should > not > > > > cause me to detox (since this was child 5). So I did that and found he > also > > did > > ozone. He would take my blood (some not too much), run it through the UVB > > and I > > do not know the frequencies he used. After finishing getting the blood in > > the > > glass bottle, he would add ozone in the bottle, and swirl it around to > get > > the > > ozone in the blood. He added it probably 6 times before all the blood > went > > back > > into my body. The blood never left my side so I knew it was my blood. > Then > > this > > last visit after birth of child 6, I went back to him. I chose to focus > on > > building the immune system and doing what I felt was best for me since > what > > is > > good for most is usually bad for me! I left my argentine 25 at home in > > North > > Carolina so I asked if he had it. He said yes but he has found a pharmacy > > who > > will " clean it up even more " so it can be put in via IV. He treats cancer > > patients that come over from far away. One was there and had treatments > > each > > day for 3 weeks. I never talked to this patient. I asked what the > doctor's > > best > > testimony was. He said people with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who were > told > > they > > had 2 weeks to live and that was years ago and they are still living. I > did > > not > > ask much more other than about the treatment. I learned that Oregon has > the > > best > > natural doctor laws. They are even allowed to do surgery there. I realize > > removing a mole is surgery. I did not ask about what surgeries they do. > But > > if I > > had the money I would investigate Orgeon and the state of Washington for > > natural > > methods of treatment. If I lived there, he would have given me VIT C > > mineral IV > > but I can get that here. I can get UVB IV here but no ozone. He feels the > > ozone > > helps " kick " things in the butt quicker. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: K M <leemo555@...> > > Lyme Treatment > > Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 1:26:36 AM > > Subject: RE: [ ] IV silver > > > > Did you take it orally for a while..did you herx hard on the iv? Did you > > use a > > frequency machine at same tie? where do you go for that...I live in > Canada, > > > > never heard of it..very intereested...Leanne > > > > > > From: ksgoebel@... > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:25:40 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [ ] IV silver > > > > I just had maybe 10 IV if collidial silver along with UVB and ozone. I > have > > > > been taking argentine 25 (I think is the name) collidial silver on and > off > > for > > years. A small taste of the argentine, I can feel lousy afterwards a > > little...the more I take the worse I feel. With the IV I would go down a > > small > > amt that day but by the next am better. than before. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: dunandrea <dunandrea@...> > > > > Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:25:47 AM > > Subject: [ ] IV silver > > > > Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? > > Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 > so > > that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly > IV > > silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? > > > > I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's > why > > > > we're trying something different. Thanks! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Leanne, MesoSilver [ ] IV silver Hi all- anyone have any experience with IV silver? Am taking thymus injections now and my cd 57 has gone up from a 4 to 93 so that's great news. After 20 injections I start gc maf and then possibly IV silver and was wondering if anyone knew about this?? I've been on all sorts AB and Buhner herbs and always relapse so that's why we're trying something different. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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