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Marie,

I wish I knew more about this and could help you, but I did want to share

want I do know.

Our Lyme Doctor said do NOT take any Co Q 10, stay away from it, so maybe

that is your

problem.

I hope someone else will answer this question for you.

Good Luck and hang in there.

Dixie

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Marie Benoit <mariebenoit11@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hello,

> I am new here .

> I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below

> ?

>

> thank you very much for answering

> Marie

>

> here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me

> this website for the japonese knotweed.

>

> thank you very much

> Hello everyone,

>

> I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis

> bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a

> few things but got very bad results.

> Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed

> to get ou tof this dead end

> then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

> began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began

> to have a slight temporry improvement

> the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5

> to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening

> pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again

> like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely care

> anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take

> 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> from the ozone.

>

> If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> control

>

> Thank you very much for yoru answer

> Marie

>

>

>

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You might want to try this for the constipation

http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Vegan-The-Ultimate-Oxygenating-Mag-O7-Colon-Cleanser-1\

20-Veggie-Caps/17759?at=1

And this for your heart issues

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Way-Hawthorn-Berries-510-mg-180-Vcaps/1932?at=0

I had extreme constipation and the product above was the only thing that helped

me. I also had many problems with my heart, Hawthorne helped a bit with that.

Are you seeing a doctor? There are so many other things that you might need

including hormones. You may also have Babesia (from your heart problems and your

response to Artemesia).

Connie

[ ] japonese knotweed info needed

Hello,

I am new here .

I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to paralysis

still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below ?

thank you very much for answering

Marie

here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me this

website for the japonese knotweed.

thank you very much

Hello everyone,

I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis bu

tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the cardiac

problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a few things

but got very bad results.

Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back hopefully

some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed to get ou tof

this dead end

then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began to

have a slight temporry improvement

the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5 to

20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening pandora

box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been struggling

with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2 weeks despite of

the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely manged to receid th

eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again like before . I really

needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and death issue we had to sruggle

with for mor ethan one year that I barely care anymore . I just do my dayly

ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take 800mg of Q10 and stopped the

magnesium as i had taken so much for the constipation . My bloodpressure being

very low itis not good to lower it even more I take instead salt to rise it a

little bit and some vit c far from the ozone.

If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under control

Thank you very much for yoru answer

Marie

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CoQ10 is not to be taken at the same time as Mepron so if you are taking that,

then yes to avoid. Otherwise CoQ10 and Magnesium are very helpful for heart

symptoms.

deb

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am new here .

> > I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> > My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> > paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> > I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> > Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below

> > ?

> >

> > thank you very much for answering

> > Marie

> >

> > here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me

> > this website for the japonese knotweed.

> >

> > thank you very much

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis

> > bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> > cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a

> > few things but got very bad results.

> > Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> > hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed

> > to get ou tof this dead end

> > then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

> > began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began

> > to have a slight temporry improvement

> > the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5

> > to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening

> > pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> > struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> > weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> > manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again

> > like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> > death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely care

> > anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take

> > 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> > constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> > even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> > from the ozone.

> >

> > If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> > I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> > control

> >

> > Thank you very much for yoru answer

> > Marie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Dixie..do you know whyno co q10/..thanks Leanne

From: dixieleeo@...

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:29:51 -0600

Subject: Re: [ ] japonese knotweed info needed

Marie,

I wish I knew more about this and could help you, but I did want to share

want I do know.

Our Lyme Doctor said do NOT take any Co Q 10, stay away from it, so maybe

that is your

problem.

I hope someone else will answer this question for you.

Good Luck and hang in there.

Dixie

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Marie Benoit <mariebenoit11@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hello,

> I am new here .

> I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below

> ?

>

> thank you very much for answering

> Marie

>

> here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me

> this website for the japonese knotweed.

>

> thank you very much

> Hello everyone,

>

> I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis

> bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a

> few things but got very bad results.

> Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed

> to get ou tof this dead end

> then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

> began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began

> to have a slight temporry improvement

> the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5

> to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening

> pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again

> like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely care

> anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take

> 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> from the ozone.

>

> If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> control

>

> Thank you very much for yoru answer

> Marie

>

>

>

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Dear Dixie ,

thank you for yoru support. In the past Q10 hleped me for heart issue so I

continue as it works for me. Thank you very much for your kind attention

Marie 

________________________________

From: Deb57 <ds@...>

Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 5:41:18 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

 

CoQ10 is not to be taken at the same time as Mepron so if you are taking that,

then yes to avoid. Otherwise CoQ10 and Magnesium are very helpful for heart

symptoms.

deb

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am new here .

> > I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> > My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> > paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> > I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> > Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below

> > ?

> >

> > thank you very much for answering

> > Marie

> >

> > here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me

> > this website for the japonese knotweed.

> >

> > thank you very much

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis

> > bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> > cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a

> > few things but got very bad results.

> > Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> > hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed

> > to get ou tof this dead end

> > then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

> > began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began

> > to have a slight temporry improvement

> > the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5

> > to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening

> > pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> > struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> > weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> > manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again

> > like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> > death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely care

> > anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take

> > 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> > constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> > even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> > from the ozone.

> >

> > If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> > I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> > control

> >

> > Thank you very much for yoru answer

> > Marie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Debby

Thank you very much . I do not take Mepron. I have stopped magnesium for one day

or two to let my blood pressure goes upper take salt and contineu the Q10 .

There si a littl;e bit of an improvement instead of a worsening tonight . So may

be it is a herx. I think the ozozne indeed has broken a little bit , the

biofilm

there is ared spot taht appeared on my skin. Something is trying to escape.

Thank you so much Debby,

with my best thought Marie

________________________________

From: Deb57 <ds@...>

Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 5:41:18 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

 

CoQ10 is not to be taken at the same time as Mepron so if you are taking that,

then yes to avoid. Otherwise CoQ10 and Magnesium are very helpful for heart

symptoms.

deb

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am new here .

> > I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> > My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> > paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> > I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> > Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below

> > ?

> >

> > thank you very much for answering

> > Marie

> >

> > here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me

> > this website for the japonese knotweed.

> >

> > thank you very much

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis

> > bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> > cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a

> > few things but got very bad results.

> > Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> > hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed

> > to get ou tof this dead end

> > then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

> > began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began

> > to have a slight temporry improvement

> > the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5

> > to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening

> > pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> > struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> > weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> > manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again

> > like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> > death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely care

> > anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take

> > 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> > constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> > even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> > from the ozone.

> >

> > If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> > I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> > control

> >

> > Thank you very much for yoru answer

> > Marie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Connie ,

Thank you very much for your insight I will try .

generally I do magnesium citrate aand need  a lot. this time I had to stopp

for

low blood pressure too low . you are right : I have barbesia.  May be ti is

from

barbesia this red spott I have on my tommy skin today today , like a spitter

bite and desappears in a few hours . I thout I had got read of it with MMS i

took so long.

I agree with our Lyme: better to get read of our borella first as the other

coinfection grab on us endlessly as long as we still have it .   The herx

anyway

does not allow me to treat barbesia now only lyme can be taken care of to avoid

severe herx

Thank you vey much Conny for sharing your experience

Kindly Marie

________________________________

From: Connie Blaze <connieblaz@...>

Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 1:31:10 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] japonese knotweed info needed

 

You might want to try this for the constipation

http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Vegan-The-Ultimate-Oxygenating-Mag-O7-Colon-Cleanser-1\

20-Veggie-Caps/17759?at=1

And this for your heart issues

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Way-Hawthorn-Berries-510-mg-180-Vcaps/1932?at=0

I had extreme constipation and the product above was the only thing that helped

me. I also had many problems with my heart, Hawthorne helped a bit with that.

Are you seeing a doctor? There are so many other things that you might need

including hormones. You may also have Babesia (from your heart problems and your

response to Artemesia).

Connie

[ ] japonese knotweed info needed

Hello,

I am new here .

I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to paralysis

still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see below ?

thank you very much for answering

Marie

here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave me this

website for the japonese knotweed.

thank you very much

Hello everyone,

I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of paralysis bu

tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the cardiac

problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing a few things

but got very bad results.

Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back hopefully

some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I managed to get ou tof

this dead end

then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great I

began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I began to

have a slight temporry improvement

the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from 5 to

20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did opening pandora

box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been struggling

with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2 weeks despite of

the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely manged to receid th

eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing again like before . I really

needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and death issue we had to sruggle

with for mor ethan one year that I barely care anymore . I just do my dayly

ozone im that helps for onehour or two I take 800mg of Q10 and stopped the

magnesium as i had taken so much for the constipation . My bloodpressure being

very low itis not good to lower it even more I take instead salt to rise it a

little bit and some vit c far from the ozone.

If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under control

Thank you very much for yoru answer

Marie

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Hi Leanne,

I am really not sure, I just know our Lyme Doc said, do NOT take it, stay

away from it, so not sure if it interferes with with antibiotics and they

don't absorb as well, (which I think it is) or if you herx more from it.

I know if you take statins, they tell you to take it, but for Lyme, it might

be a different story.

Dixie

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:41 PM, K M <leemo555@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dixie..do you know whyno co q10/..thanks Leanne

>

>

>

> From: dixieleeo@...

> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:29:51 -0600

> Subject: Re: [ ] japonese knotweed info needed

>

>

> Marie,

> I wish I knew more about this and could help you, but I did want to share

> want I do know.

> Our Lyme Doctor said do NOT take any Co Q 10, stay away from it, so maybe

> that is your

> problem.

> I hope someone else will answer this question for you.

> Good Luck and hang in there.

> Dixie

>

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Marie Benoit <mariebenoit11@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am new here .

> > I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> > My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> > paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> > I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> > Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see

> below

> > ?

> >

> > thank you very much for answering

> > Marie

> >

> > here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave

> me

> > this website for the japonese knotweed.

> >

> > thank you very much

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of

> paralysis

> > bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> > cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing

> a

> > few things but got very bad results.

> > Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> > hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I

> managed

> > to get ou tof this dead end

> > then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great

> I

> > began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I

> began

> > to have a slight temporry improvement

> > the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from

> 5

> > to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did

> opening

> > pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> > struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> > weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> > manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing

> again

> > like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> > death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely

> care

> > anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I

> take

> > 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> > constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> > even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> > from the ozone.

> >

> > If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> > I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> > control

> >

> > Thank you very much for yoru answer

> > Marie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Hi Marie,

This is what I typed to Leann about the Q10

I am really not sure, I just know our Lyme Doc said, do NOT take it, stay

away from it, so not sure if it interferes with with antibiotics and they

don't absorb as well, (which I think it is) or if you herx more from it.

I know if you take statins, they tell you to take it, but for Lyme, it might

be a different story.

Dixie

p.s. It's sooooooooooo confusing, isn't it??? :(

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Marie Benoit <mariebenoit11@...>wrote:

>

>

> Dear Dixie ,

> thank you for yoru support. In the past Q10 hleped me for heart issue so I

> continue as it works for me. Thank you very much for your kind attention

>

> Marie

>

> ________________________________

> From: Deb57 <ds@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 5:41:18 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

>

>

>

> CoQ10 is not to be taken at the same time as Mepron so if you are taking

> that,

> then yes to avoid. Otherwise CoQ10 and Magnesium are very helpful for heart

>

> symptoms.

>

> deb

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > I am new here .

> > > I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> > > My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> > > paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> > > I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> > > Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see

> below

> > > ?

> > >

> > > thank you very much for answering

> > > Marie

> > >

> > > here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave

> me

> > > this website for the japonese knotweed.

> > >

> > > thank you very much

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of

> paralysis

> > > bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> > > cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve

> changing a

> > > few things but got very bad results.

> > > Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> > > hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I

> managed

> > > to get ou tof this dead end

> > > then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was

> great I

> > > began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I

> began

> > > to have a slight temporry improvement

> > > the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done

> from 5

> > > to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did

> opening

> > > pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have

> been

> > > struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for

> 2

> > > weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I

> barely

> > > manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing

> again

> > > like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe

> and

> > > death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely

> care

> > > anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I

> take

> > > 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> > > constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower

> it

> > > even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c

> far

> > > from the ozone.

> > >

> > > If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> > > I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> > > control

> > >

> > > Thank you very much for yoru answer

> > > Marie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Marie,

I'm so sorry you are going through all this. I understand exactly what you mean

when you say you've dealt with living with a life and death crisis for so long

you don't have the energy to care anymore. It wears you out. It will get better,

it really will.

I used to have arrhythmias all day long and every once in awhile my heart goes

into atrial fibrillation (afib) that sends me to the ER by ambulance (47 times

so far as of last month.) I started taking 240mg of CoQ10 a day and all the

small daily arrhythmias have completely stopped but the bad episodes are still

happening. I haven't found anything to stop that yet. I need a good

LLMD-Cardiologist.

Everything I eat or drink or get exposed to, like cold in the winter and heat in

the summer, affects my heart. I can't take abx because I get arrhythmias. I can

take Cat's Claw without any problem but not the other herbs because they set my

heart off. I have a terrible time detoxing because everything I do to detox can

set my heart off. I feel like I'm walking on a razors edge every minute of the

day and night and it's getting worse. I'm afraid to go to sleep because many

times my heart has gone into afib and I've had to wake up and grab the phone

before I passed out because my heart wasn't beating right. I've gotten so sick

from the Lyme that I lost my full time job and my health insurance and I've been

trying to self diagnose and self medicate for the last 6 years. I'm not doing

too well at it. Everything that I try sets my heart off. I have completely

changed my lifestyle. Instead of expanding and growing and experience all that

life can be, I spend my life avoiding as much as possible. I avoid all the known

things that set my heart off or aggravate the Lyme symptoms but I am constantly

finding new things to avoid. Even my small list of " safe " foods keeps dwindling.

I feel like I'm loosing the fight. I've done all I know to promote good health

but I continue to get worse. I don't know where it's all headed but I'm thankful

I've been able to hang on this long. It's been one hell of a battle and I'm

getting tired of the challenge. My life has become flat and dull and stressful.

I was never like this before.

I found a part time job that isn't too demanding and my boss is very

understanding about my health situation. I'm afraid to go to work because the

effort it takes is hard on my body and I get worn down quickly. A couple times

I've had to leave there and go to the hospital by ambulance when my heart went

into an afib episode. One very cold day when I left work I pulled out of the

parking lot and had to pull my car over to the side of the road and call on my

cell phone for an ambulance to pick me up and get me to the hospital because my

heart went into afib. Sometimes I get home from work and collapse in a chair and

sleep for 4 hours. I shouldn't be working but I have to keep a roof over my head

and the electric on. I'm getting exhausted by having to be my own caretaker,

doctor and breadwinner at the same time. I'm getting to a point where I can't do

it all any more. It's been causing me a lot of stress lately because I can see

what's coming if I can't break the cycle I'm on. I'm not getting any younger and

I'm not going to be able to continue this way much longer. I know there is a way

to heal all this and I'll find it.

My prayers are with you for a full recovery. Just know other people understand

and are sending you positive thoughts.

Blessings of good health,

Barbara

>

> Dear Debby

> Thank you very much . I do not take Mepron. I have stopped magnesium for one

day

> or two to let my blood pressure goes upper take salt and contineu the Q10 .

> There si a littl;e bit of an improvement instead of a worsening tonight . So

may

> be it is a herx. I think the ozozne indeed has broken a little bit , the

biofilm

> there is ared spot taht appeared on my skin. Something is trying to escape.

>

> Thank you so much Debby,

> with my best thought Marie

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

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Barbara, ( & Marie),

I am soooooooooooooo sorry for both of you.

This is just horrible that there is all this extreme suffering with NO help.

I just wanted to tell you that my hubby has had the afib, with his heart

going out of rythm and his pulse was 225 at his highest, they had to stop

and reset his heart 3 times on that one, but the other times, which was

around 185, he lays down and trys some imaging to try and pull out of this

without going to the hospital------He's a Man!!!! what can I say?

Anyway, his cardiologist which he has only gone to once, gave him a very

inexpensive pill for it called Atenolol 25mg. one per day, which is supposed

to completely stop this, but now he doesn't take it because he said, it

gives him a headache!!!

But the doctor also said when this happens, to try 2 things, one, bear down

as if you are having a bm or a baby, and the other thing is stick your

finger down your throat and gag, that usually resets the electrical part of

the heart and will go back into a normal rythm.

Just wanted to pass this on to you ladies and hope it helps.

God Bless you both and I pray you will be well.

Hugs,

Dixie

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:57 AM, firstmenders <Euodiau@...> wrote:

>

>

> Marie,

>

> I'm so sorry you are going through all this. I understand exactly what you

> mean when you say you've dealt with living with a life and death crisis for

> so long you don't have the energy to care anymore. It wears you out. It will

> get better, it really will.

>

> I used to have arrhythmias all day long and every once in awhile my heart

> goes into atrial fibrillation (afib) that sends me to the ER by ambulance

> (47 times so far as of last month.) I started taking 240mg of CoQ10 a day

> and all the small daily arrhythmias have completely stopped but the bad

> episodes are still happening. I haven't found anything to stop that yet. I

> need a good LLMD-Cardiologist.

>

> Everything I eat or drink or get exposed to, like cold in the winter and

> heat in the summer, affects my heart. I can't take abx because I get

> arrhythmias. I can take Cat's Claw without any problem but not the other

> herbs because they set my heart off. I have a terrible time detoxing because

> everything I do to detox can set my heart off. I feel like I'm walking on a

> razors edge every minute of the day and night and it's getting worse. I'm

> afraid to go to sleep because many times my heart has gone into afib and

> I've had to wake up and grab the phone before I passed out because my heart

> wasn't beating right. I've gotten so sick from the Lyme that I lost my full

> time job and my health insurance and I've been trying to self diagnose and

> self medicate for the last 6 years. I'm not doing too well at it. Everything

> that I try sets my heart off. I have completely changed my lifestyle.

> Instead of expanding and growing and experience all that life can be, I

> spend my life avoiding as much as possible. I avoid all the known things

> that set my heart off or aggravate the Lyme symptoms but I am constantly

> finding new things to avoid. Even my small list of " safe " foods keeps

> dwindling. I feel like I'm loosing the fight. I've done all I know to

> promote good health but I continue to get worse. I don't know where it's all

> headed but I'm thankful I've been able to hang on this long. It's been one

> hell of a battle and I'm getting tired of the challenge. My life has become

> flat and dull and stressful. I was never like this before.

>

> I found a part time job that isn't too demanding and my boss is very

> understanding about my health situation. I'm afraid to go to work because

> the effort it takes is hard on my body and I get worn down quickly. A couple

> times I've had to leave there and go to the hospital by ambulance when my

> heart went into an afib episode. One very cold day when I left work I pulled

> out of the parking lot and had to pull my car over to the side of the road

> and call on my cell phone for an ambulance to pick me up and get me to the

> hospital because my heart went into afib. Sometimes I get home from work and

> collapse in a chair and sleep for 4 hours. I shouldn't be working but I have

> to keep a roof over my head and the electric on. I'm getting exhausted by

> having to be my own caretaker, doctor and breadwinner at the same time. I'm

> getting to a point where I can't do it all any more. It's been causing me a

> lot of stress lately because I can see what's coming if I can't break the

> cycle I'm on. I'm not getting any younger and I'm not going to be able to

> continue this way much longer. I know there is a way to heal all this and

> I'll find it.

>

> My prayers are with you for a full recovery. Just know other people

> understand and are sending you positive thoughts.

>

> Blessings of good health,

> Barbara

>

>

> >

> > Dear Debby

> > Thank you very much . I do not take Mepron. I have stopped magnesium for

> one day

> > or two to let my blood pressure goes upper take salt and contineu the Q10

> .

> > There si a littl;e bit of an improvement instead of a worsening tonight .

> So may

> > be it is a herx. I think the ozozne indeed has broken a little bit , the

> biofilm

> > there is ared spot taht appeared on my skin. Something is trying to

> escape.

> >

> > Thank you so much Debby,

> > with my best thought Marie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Dixie,

Thank you so much for sharing yoru experience and for your compoassion.

Your man is indeed a real man. Hope i twill improve with coil. i tlooks like the

Q10

 800mg spread during the day does something or is it the herx decreasing? I have

taken up to 600mg at once when i twas critical .I take also salt and licorice to

increase the blood pressure it looks like it works.

Does your husband have low blood pressure or hight blood presure?

i fit is hight di dyou try big amount of magnesium?

I want to tell you that i cannot do it now becaus eof the necessary silver for

my parlaysis  but when I was having heart attack I had things similar to yoru

husband and the MMS on the skin with dmso +

the mms to drink both every horu tokk me out of trouble in a week to 2 weeks

back to normal . Just incase of you would not have tryed yet

kindly

Marie

________________________________

From: dixieleeo tds.net <dixieleeo@...>

Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 1:07:50 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

Barbara, ( & Marie),

I am soooooooooooooo sorry for both of you.

This is just horrible that there is all this extreme suffering with NO help.

I just wanted to tell you that my hubby has had the afib, with his heart

going out of rythm and his pulse was 225 at his highest, they had to stop

and reset his heart 3 times on that one, but the other times, which was

around 185, he lays down and trys some imaging to try and pull out of this

without going to the hospital------He's a Man!!!!  what can I say?

Anyway, his cardiologist which he has only gone to once, gave him a very

inexpensive pill for it called Atenolol 25mg. one per day, which is supposed

to completely stop this, but now he doesn't take it because he said, it

gives him a headache!!!

But the doctor also said when this happens, to try 2 things, one, bear down

as if you are having a bm or a baby, and the other thing is stick your

finger down your throat and gag, that usually resets the electrical part of

the heart and will go back into a normal rythm.

Just wanted to pass this on to you ladies and hope it helps.

God Bless you both and I pray you will be well.

Hugs,

Dixie

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:57 AM, firstmenders <Euodiau@...> wrote:

>

>

> Marie,

>

> I'm so sorry you are going through all this. I understand exactly what you

> mean when you say you've dealt with living with a life and death crisis for

> so long you don't have the energy to care anymore. It wears you out. It will

> get better, it really will.

>

> I used to have arrhythmias all day long and every once in awhile my heart

> goes into atrial fibrillation (afib) that sends me to the ER by ambulance

> (47 times so far as of last month.) I started taking 240mg of CoQ10 a day

> and all the small daily arrhythmias have completely stopped but the bad

> episodes are still happening. I haven't found anything to stop that yet. I

> need a good LLMD-Cardiologist.

>

> Everything I eat or drink or get exposed to, like cold in the winter and

> heat in the summer, affects my heart. I can't take abx because I get

> arrhythmias. I can take Cat's Claw without any problem but not the other

> herbs because they set my heart off. I have a terrible time detoxing because

> everything I do to detox can set my heart off. I feel like I'm walking on a

> razors edge every minute of the day and night and it's getting worse. I'm

> afraid to go to sleep because many times my heart has gone into afib and

> I've had to wake up and grab the phone before I passed out because my heart

> wasn't beating right. I've gotten so sick from the Lyme that I lost my full

> time job and my health insurance and I've been trying to self diagnose and

> self medicate for the last 6 years. I'm not doing too well at it. Everything

> that I try sets my heart off. I have completely changed my lifestyle.

> Instead of expanding and growing and experience all that life can be, I

> spend my life avoiding as much as possible. I avoid all the known things

> that set my heart off or aggravate the Lyme symptoms but I am constantly

> finding new things to avoid. Even my small list of " safe " foods keeps

> dwindling. I feel like I'm loosing the fight. I've done all I know to

> promote good health but I continue to get worse. I don't know where it's all

> headed but I'm thankful I've been able to hang on this long. It's been one

> hell of a battle and I'm getting tired of the challenge. My life has become

> flat and dull and stressful. I was never like this before.

>

> I found a part time job that isn't too demanding and my boss is very

> understanding about my health situation. I'm afraid to go to work because

> the effort it takes is hard on my body and I get worn down quickly. A couple

> times I've had to leave there and go to the hospital by ambulance when my

> heart went into an afib episode. One very cold day when I left work I pulled

> out of the parking lot and had to pull my car over to the side of the road

> and call on my cell phone for an ambulance to pick me up and get me to the

> hospital because my heart went into afib. Sometimes I get home from work and

> collapse in a chair and sleep for 4 hours. I shouldn't be working but I have

> to keep a roof over my head and the electric on. I'm getting exhausted by

> having to be my own caretaker, doctor and breadwinner at the same time. I'm

> getting to a point where I can't do it all any more. It's been causing me a

> lot of stress lately because I can see what's coming if I can't break the

> cycle I'm on. I'm not getting any younger and I'm not going to be able to

> continue this way much longer. I know there is a way to heal all this and

> I'll find it.

>

> My prayers are with you for a full recovery. Just know other people

> understand and are sending you positive thoughts.

>

> Blessings of good health,

> Barbara

>

>

> >

> > Dear Debby

> > Thank you very much . I do not take Mepron. I have stopped magnesium for

> one day

> > or two to let my blood pressure goes upper take salt and contineu the Q10

> .

> > There si a littl;e bit of an improvement instead of a worsening tonight .

> So may

> > be it is a herx. I think the ozozne indeed has broken a little bit , the

> biofilm

> > there is ared spot taht appeared on my skin. Something is trying to

> escape.

> >

> > Thank you so much Debby,

> > with my best thought Marie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

>

>

>

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Barbara,

Besides the CoQ10, are you taking magnesium? There is so much information on

how magnesium is important for the heart. I take at least 1000 mg a day. Some

people need even more than that, depending on what bugs they have (I think

Bartonella steals magnesium so you need to supplement more for that). You can

take oral magnesium - I take Magnesium glycinate which is a chelate that

supposedly absorbs better than some other forms. You can also use Ancient

Minerals of Swanson transdermal magnesium oil. Rub on first thing in AM, must

leave on at least 20 min. Full strength can itch and/or feel like burning at

first so it can be diluted 50/50 with water. Ancient Minerals also makes

magnesium chloride flakes for the bath. Mag chloride supposedly has a longer

half-life in the body compared to mag sulfate (epsom salts) which clears much

faster. Finally, I know some people who buy the flakes and soak their feet in

the mag chloride solution and this has been helping heart palps/symptoms.

Last summer I developed heart symptoms which can be very scary, but nothing of

the severity that you describe. I find the magnesium and CoQ10 really help

stave it off.

Another herb for the heart is hawthorn. I have not tried this. Have you looked

into it?

deb

> >

> > Dear Debby

> > Thank you very much . I do not take Mepron. I have stopped magnesium for one

day

> > or two to let my blood pressure goes upper take salt and contineu the Q10 .

> > There si a littl;e bit of an improvement instead of a worsening tonight . So

may

> > be it is a herx. I think the ozozne indeed has broken a little bit , the

biofilm

> > there is ared spot taht appeared on my skin. Something is trying to escape.

> >

> > Thank you so much Debby,

> > with my best thought Marie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

>

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Thank you Barbara to tell me we are in the same boat.

Keep an eye on my post as as soon as i find out a new good detox I let th eforum

and you know.

May I attract your attention on the quantities. I began to be better but

I take 400mg Q10* 3 times a day!

           800mg of magnesium citrate to 1200mg as oftetn as needed

meanse

several time

Do you have a low blood pressure like me ?

If so

licorice and gensing and bee pollen helps.

Do you have armor thyroid ? i fyou are always cold when others are warm and

loose your hair

their is a low thryroid . i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

thyroid without a prescription. I found by myself what was the right dosage just

by feeling well or not . felling cold all the time ehwen other do nt is a sign

low blood pressure as well

colema is a thing that is equivalent to 1/3 of a colonic we buy it and do it at

home cost 250$ an duse it as often as needed.

For me the colonic makes me survive and escape from a herx to the othe rsaved

several time my life try to do aenemas but lying on your back and with much more

water than a normal aenema the colema can contain as much as 15 gallon I take 10

gallon. you will have to do it in th ebath room to be able to get up each time

you need to go to the water closet . the best is the colema .

I am waiting to receive the lee crock machine that forces cells to contract and

push away toxines out of it  by night . I will tell you if it works when I

comes

looks logical .

let me hold you on my heart , thank you very much for your prayer Barabra I will

pray for you also .

Did you try the liver flush? i tuses to help me a lot .I will try it with what

deb suggested as i suspect some reaction from MG sulphides part of the reason it

doe snot works as well as before for me

Thank you very very much Barabra  

Marie

________________________________

From: Deb57 <ds@...>

Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 8:10:05 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

 

Barbara,

Besides the CoQ10, are you taking magnesium? There is so much information on how

magnesium is important for the heart. I take at least 1000 mg a day. Some people

need even more than that, depending on what bugs they have (I think Bartonella

steals magnesium so you need to supplement more for that). You can take oral

magnesium - I take Magnesium glycinate which is a chelate that supposedly

absorbs better than some other forms. You can also use Ancient Minerals of

Swanson transdermal magnesium oil. Rub on first thing in AM, must leave on at

least 20 min. Full strength can itch and/or feel like burning at first so it can

be diluted 50/50 with water. Ancient Minerals also makes magnesium chloride

flakes for the bath. Mag chloride supposedly has a longer half-life in the body

compared to mag sulfate (epsom salts) which clears much faster. Finally, I know

some people who buy the flakes and soak their feet in the mag chloride solution

and this has been helping heart palps/symptoms. a

Last summer I developed heart symptoms which can be very scary, but nothing of

the severity that you describe. I find the magnesium and CoQ10 really help stave

it off.

Another herb for the heart is hawthorn. I have not tried this. Have you looked

into it?

deb

> >

> > Dear Debby

> > Thank you very much . I do not take Mepron. I have stopped magnesium for one

>day

>

> > or two to let my blood pressure goes upper take salt and contineu the Q10 .

> > There si a littl;e bit of an improvement instead of a worsening tonight . So

>may

>

> > be it is a herx. I think the ozozne indeed has broken a little bit , the

>biofilm

>

> > there is ared spot taht appeared on my skin. Something is trying to escape.

> >

> > Thank you so much Debby,

> > with my best thought Marie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

>

THank you very much barbara

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DR Burrascanno in his writting says the opposit Q10 being a must it help me  a

lot

Marie

 

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From: dixieleeo tds.net <dixieleeo@...>

Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 9:19:54 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] japonese knotweed info needed

 

Hi Leanne,

I am really not sure, I just know our Lyme Doc said, do NOT take it, stay

away from it, so not sure if it interferes with with antibiotics and they

don't absorb as well, (which I think it is) or if you herx more from it.

I know if you take statins, they tell you to take it, but for Lyme, it might

be a different story.

Dixie

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:41 PM, K M <leemo555@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dixie..do you know whyno co q10/..thanks Leanne

>

>

>

> From: dixieleeo@...

> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:29:51 -0600

> Subject: Re: [ ] japonese knotweed info needed

>

>

> Marie,

> I wish I knew more about this and could help you, but I did want to share

> want I do know.

> Our Lyme Doctor said do NOT take any Co Q 10, stay away from it, so maybe

> that is your

> problem.

> I hope someone else will answer this question for you.

> Good Luck and hang in there.

> Dixie

>

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Marie Benoit <mariebenoit11@...>wrote:

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I am new here .

> > I am looking for the protocol to take japoneses knotweed .

> > My big probleme is major herx and poor detoxification partially due to

> > paralysis still going on on the colon and close to heart failure .

> > I manage it by colonic twice a week bu ti do not progress anymore .

> > Thank you for any suggestion other than what i do already please see

> below

> > ?

> >

> > thank you very much for answering

> > Marie

> >

> > here the message I just pu tin the lyme and riffe forum where they gave

> me

> > this website for the japonese knotweed.

> >

> > thank you very much

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I am stuccked at 5 seconds of coil since august when I got out of

> paralysis

> > bu tthey show up each herx. Before I had several heart attack. Now the

> > cardiac problems is coming back . I have been trying to improve changing

> a

> > few things but got very bad results.

> > Once it was adding artemesia . got a super herx paralysis coming back

> > hopefully some told me it could be it and with time and colonics I

> managed

> > to get ou tof this dead end

> > then I tryed ozone insufflation to improve my intestine. minute was great

> I

> > began ot hear a little bit og glue glue on th eascendant collon and I

> began

> > to have a slight temporry improvement

> > the time after I did 7 minutes of ozone insufflation. It can be done from

> 5

> > to 20 minutes. I heard it was destrying the biofilm. Indeed it did

> opening

> > pandora box freeing all sort of germes spirotech probbaly and I have been

> > struggling with a big herx again with paralysis brain fog joint etc for 2

> > weeks despite of the 2 colonic a week and 1 ot 2 colema as well. I barely

> > manged to receid th eparalysis but this time here is my heart failing

> again

> > like before . I really needed that . and me are so tyred of lfe and

> > death issue we had to sruggle with for mor ethan one year that I barely

> care

> > anymore . I just do my dayly ozone im that helps for onehour or two I

> take

> > 800mg of Q10 and stopped the magnesium as i had taken so much for the

> > constipation . My bloodpressure being very low itis not good to lower it

> > even more I take instead salt to rise it a little bit and some vit c far

> > from the ozone.

> >

> > If you have any insight or experience or suggestion pleaselet me know .

> > I cannot switch to MMS as silver is a must to keep th eparalysis under

> > control

> >

> > Thank you very much for yoru answer

> > Marie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Deb, I take some magnesium but it probably isn't enough. A couple years ago I

tried hawthorn. I might try it again. Thanks for the information.

Barbara

>

> Barbara,

>

> Besides the CoQ10, are you taking magnesium? There is so much information on

how magnesium is important for the heart. I take at least 1000 mg a day. Some

people need even more than that, depending on what bugs they have (I think

Bartonella steals magnesium so you need to supplement more for that). You can

take oral magnesium - I take Magnesium glycinate which is a chelate that

supposedly absorbs better than some other forms. You can also use Ancient

Minerals of Swanson transdermal magnesium oil. Rub on first thing in AM, must

leave on at least 20 min. Full strength can itch and/or feel like burning at

first so it can be diluted 50/50 with water. Ancient Minerals also makes

magnesium chloride flakes for the bath. Mag chloride supposedly has a longer

half-life in the body compared to mag sulfate (epsom salts) which clears much

faster. Finally, I know some people who buy the flakes and soak their feet in

the mag chloride solution and this has been helping heart palps/symptoms.

>

> Last summer I developed heart symptoms which can be very scary, but nothing of

the severity that you describe. I find the magnesium and CoQ10 really help

stave it off.

>

> Another herb for the heart is hawthorn. I have not tried this. Have you

looked into it?

>

> deb

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> I just wanted to tell you that my hubby has had the afib, with his heart

> going out of rythm and his pulse was 225 at his highest, they had to stop

> and reset his heart 3 times on that one, but the other times, which was

> around 185, he lays down and trys some imaging to try and pull out of this

> without going to the hospital

I think this varies strongly between individuals. I have had these problems

(fibrillating heart, or heart beating like crazy) when waking up almost every

morning now for the last months, and it ALWAYS corrects itself within a

relatively short time, without any medication. It also happens occasionally

during the day, e.g. when I'm riding my bicycle against a strong wind.

Only now I'n thinking of checking with my MD because I'm getting very sudden

headaches, which might be related to heart or circulation problems.

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<<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

thyroid without a prescription. >>

What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company stopped

producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some other

natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your pain may

be different.

Thanks,

Ken

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My darling took care of the ordering of my armor thyroid  , I do not remmember

please remind me on a new message  tiled ``armor thyroid with no precription``

so i see it .

I ma drown in all the web message from all the group

THank you Marie

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From: Ken & Trisha <strmhllw@...>

Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 5:26:40 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

 

<<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

thyroid without a prescription. >>

What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company stopped

producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some other

natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your pain may

be different.

Thanks,

Ken

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I take a product called Westhroid which is desiccated pig thyroid. Is Armour

also derived from pig? If so, Weshtroid might be an option.

deb

>

> <<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

> thyroid without a prescription. >>

>

> What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company

stopped producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some

other natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

>

> She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your pain may

be different.

>

> Thanks,

> Ken

>

>

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I used to take Armour which is desicated pig thyroid but then my pharmacy

replaced it with another one that is just called thyroid but it is the same

as armour, just a different manufacturer.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Deb57 <ds@...> wrote:

>

>

> I take a product called Westhroid which is desiccated pig thyroid. Is

> Armour also derived from pig? If so, Weshtroid might be an option.

>

> deb

>

>

>

> >

> > <<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

> > thyroid without a prescription. >>

> >

> > What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company

> stopped producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some

> other natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

> >

> > She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your

> pain may be different.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ken

> >

> >

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i asked to ,my sweety he is going to look for this. I think it is not as

contrated as dessicated thyroid gland i tryed in the past

an other kind it help somewhat

Marie

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From: Deb57 <ds@...>

Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 8:57:15 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

 

I take a product called Westhroid which is desiccated pig thyroid. Is Armour

also derived from pig? If so, Weshtroid might be an option.

deb

>

> <<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

> thyroid without a prescription. >>

>

> What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company

>stopped producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some

>other natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

>

> She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your pain may

>be different.

>

>

> Thanks,

> Ken

>

>

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Saw this link on one of the groups to buy thyroid without Rx.

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/PRG-226/thyroid-armour-nature-westroid.htm?utm_\

source=YMExpress & utm_medium=email & utm_campaign=Live

I haven't tried this supplier myself but bookmarked it for future reference.

deb

> > >

> > > <<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

> > > thyroid without a prescription. >>

> > >

> > > What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company

> > stopped producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some

> > other natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

> > >

> > > She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your

> > pain may be different.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ken

> > >

> > >

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here is where my sweety got the armor thyroid without a prescription

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/PRG-226/thyroid-armour-nature-westroid.htm?utm_\

source=YMExpress & utm_medium=email & utm_campaign=Live

1  - Pregnenolone ? The Mother Of All Hormones

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From: Deb57 <ds@...>

Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 8:57:15 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: japonese knotweed info needed

 

I take a product called Westhroid which is desiccated pig thyroid. Is Armour

also derived from pig? If so, Weshtroid might be an option.

deb

>

> <<i fso I have found a website where I can get armor

> thyroid without a prescription. >>

>

> What website is that? My wife was on Armor from her Dr.until the company

>stopped producing it. She tried to find it on line but could only find some

>other natural product that didn't seem to do anything.

>

> She used to take hawthorn when she had chest pain and it helped. Your pain may

>be different.

>

>

> Thanks,

> Ken

>

>

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