Re: Candida: was; Instead of doxcycline

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> Anne,

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> I'm wondering about oregano oil. I was told that it kills the beneficial

bacteria as well as the pathogenic ones.

It is impossible to kill specific (pathogenic) bacteria with this kind of

products, and I don't think anyone has really checked as that would be very

expensive (and knowledge about all the different gut bacteria is relatively

recent anyway).

There are a few herbs that are more specific, e.g. those based on quorum sensing

mechanism. These usually don't kill but make the bacteria less pathogenic; and

even these herbs will also harm some beneficial bacteria.

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It is true, unfortunatley we really can't kill off the yeast. From what we have

read and experienced we must nourish and support the body to reestablish the

flora through strict diet and support. I just mentioned that those things were

helpful to us, and even my 4yo tolerated them. On Bee's site, she used to

recommend oregano oil, and no longer does...she is pretty strict. We used it

back when she still recommended it and did well with it. I guess everyone's

case is different. We always use the natural antiobiotics in the morning and

then probiotics at night before bed. That just worked for us. Now that Lyme

and babesia seem to be a bigger problem than candida for us...I am sure things

will change and we are in new territory. We have not been on antiobiotic

therapy yet for lyme or co's....which I dread.

As far as melatonin being helpful, we found that it helped restful sleep and

detoxification which may or may not be helpful in this situation. We use only a

natural, not synthetic brand. We seem to have restless nights and fatigue with

die-off and finally decided to just go with it after months of suffering.

In our case, we are totally grain and sugar free in our house. The only

sweeteners we use are a little stevia and a little raw honey...that is it (each

diet supports a different sweetener,so we just did what worked for us). We

don't even use starches like baked or sweet potatoes. It is in both the gaps

diet and bee's diet. It is strict, but it is the only thing that I think cured

our digestion issues in our house for our son. It even helped with depression,

lethargy, and weight loss.

Both GAPS and Bee's diets have candida elimination food lists and recipes to

make it a little less confusing.

Thanks for the dialogue, ANne