Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

[Guest guest]

,

I really urge you not to use frontline (and advantage)- it almost killed my cat.

Many cats have been killed with these, or have seizures. It is so toxic that a

friend of mine who is chemically-sensitive, can get sick just be petting an

animal that has been treated with them.

I give my cat brewer's yeast, nutritional - I put it in her food. It is good for

other things too - she has a beautiful coat.

She's an indoor-outdoor cat, and I've never been bothered with fleas.

I also use a flea comb to catch the occasional flea, she likes being combed, I

use that time for bonding.

If there are fleas in your yard you can buy nematodes which will kill them, and

not hurt you or your pet.

I've never used DE. (don't know how to spell it either!). I'm a little scared of

it, as they instruct that one should wear a mask when using it so as not to

inhale, then what about the kitty?

But I have read that it is quite effective. If you do a search - put in

non-toxic or natural remedies for flea control - there are many other things out

there.

I would avoid frontline and advantage or anything similar. They don't tell you

about the adverse reactions. My vet recommended it. I wouldn't touch it.

good luck,

ellen

>

> Does anyone know anyway to treat pets besides using frontline? Frontline

> kills only what is on the pet at the moment (they can later pick up new

> fleas and ticks). I've heard of DE dianthamus sp? earth. Has anyone used

> this on their pets, and if so, how do you use it, is it put on them daily

> topically, or do you sprinkle it in their food?

>

> I've even heard that people ingest it as well, is this to kill parasites?

>

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I have used DE - diatomaceous earth - giggles. It was great. Fleas fall off

animals into carpet and are dehydrated to death. Then vacuum them up.

I felt the same way until someone told me how great it was. Reapply after

shampooing the carpet (forgot the first time). Worked better than the 4

bombs I set off in desperation.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of rasheedaas

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:42 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

,

I really urge you not to use frontline (and advantage)- it almost killed my

cat.

Many cats have been killed with these, or have seizures. It is so toxic that

a friend of mine who is chemically-sensitive, can get sick just be petting

an animal that has been treated with them.

I give my cat brewer's yeast, nutritional - I put it in her food. It is good

for other things too - she has a beautiful coat.

She's an indoor-outdoor cat, and I've never been bothered with fleas.

I also use a flea comb to catch the occasional flea, she likes being combed,

I use that time for bonding.

If there are fleas in your yard you can buy nematodes which will kill them,

and not hurt you or your pet.

I've never used DE. (don't know how to spell it either!). I'm a little

scared of it, as they instruct that one should wear a mask when using it so

as not to inhale, then what about the kitty?

But I have read that it is quite effective. If you do a search - put in

non-toxic or natural remedies for flea control - there are many other things

out there.

I would avoid frontline and advantage or anything similar. They don't tell

you about the adverse reactions. My vet recommended it. I wouldn't touch it.

good luck,

ellen

>

> Does anyone know anyway to treat pets besides using frontline? Frontline

> kills only what is on the pet at the moment (they can later pick up new

> fleas and ticks). I've heard of DE dianthamus sp? earth. Has anyone used

> this on their pets, and if so, how do you use it, is it put on them daily

> topically, or do you sprinkle it in their food?

>

> I've even heard that people ingest it as well, is this to kill parasites?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

i use advantix http://www.petparents.com/show.aspx/products/k9-advantix-for-dogs

[Guest guest]

How much do you put on carpet?  What about areas of natural hard wood, well

pine board that is finished?  Any ideas for that?  Thanks

From: <wilson33@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 12:36 PM

 

I have used DE - diatomaceous earth - giggles. It was great. Fleas fall off

animals into carpet and are dehydrated to death. Then vacuum them up.

I felt the same way until someone told me how great it was. Reapply after

shampooing the carpet (forgot the first time). Worked better than the 4

bombs I set off in desperation.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of rasheedaas

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:42 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

,

I really urge you not to use frontline (and advantage)- it almost killed my

cat.

Many cats have been killed with these, or have seizures. It is so toxic that

a friend of mine who is chemically-sensitive, can get sick just be petting

an animal that has been treated with them.

I give my cat brewer's yeast, nutritional - I put it in her food. It is good

for other things too - she has a beautiful coat.

She's an indoor-outdoor cat, and I've never been bothered with fleas.

I also use a flea comb to catch the occasional flea, she likes being combed,

I use that time for bonding.

If there are fleas in your yard you can buy nematodes which will kill them,

and not hurt you or your pet.

I've never used DE. (don't know how to spell it either!). I'm a little

scared of it, as they instruct that one should wear a mask when using it so

as not to inhale, then what about the kitty?

But I have read that it is quite effective. If you do a search - put in

non-toxic or natural remedies for flea control - there are many other things

out there.

I would avoid frontline and advantage or anything similar. They don't tell

you about the adverse reactions. My vet recommended it. I wouldn't touch it.

good luck,

ellen

>

> Does anyone know anyway to treat pets besides using frontline? Frontline

> kills only what is on the pet at the moment (they can later pick up new

> fleas and ticks). I've heard of DE dianthamus sp? earth. Has anyone used

> this on their pets, and if so, how do you use it, is it put on them daily

> topically, or do you sprinkle it in their food?

>

> I've even heard that people ingest it as well, is this to kill parasites?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Now I'm remembering why I did not use DE, the warning to not breath it in...so

on carpet, vacuuming, walking, etc would make it air bourne to some extent. 

Yes, if it's slightly scratchy in microscopically size particles, seems it could

do lung damage so yes, my thought was what about cat lungs, so close to the

floor.  Usually nothing is without some problem, if you want to kill something,

tools usually aren't harmless.  I'd like to get nutritional yeast in, that

sounds good but my cat will not eat moist food, just kibble.  He will go days

without food waiting for kibble, my vet said in exasperation after having cat

for a few days post surgery.  She holds out, so there isn't anything to mix it

in to.  She won't even eat steak...just her hard little things.  She used to be

someone else's cat that I inherited but I guess that is all she ever got so

nothing else is 'food' to her.  Anyway, thanks for the info.

From: rasheedaas <rasheedaas@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 11:42 AM

 

,

I really urge you not to use frontline (and advantage)- it almost killed my cat.

Many cats have been killed with these, or have seizures. It is so toxic that a

friend of mine who is chemically-sensitive, can get sick just be petting an

animal that has been treated with them.

I give my cat brewer's yeast, nutritional - I put it in her food. It is good for

other things too - she has a beautiful coat.

She's an indoor-outdoor cat, and I've never been bothered with fleas.

I also use a flea comb to catch the occasional flea, she likes being combed, I

use that time for bonding.

[Guest guest]

Be advised that DE is nasty stuff! I used to use it on my dogs, but won't

anymore, due to it being a fine dust that you shouldn't breathe or get in your

eyes (or your animals). I consider it very harmful, for that reason.

It also dries out your pet's skin -- big time. Lots of scratching.

I treated my house once (several years ago) & will NEVER do that again. What a

mess! That microscopic fine powder was everywhere. I seriously am still

finding areas of my house with powder attached to it (drawer slides, hangers in

the back of a closet, etc.)

It also blew up my Dyson trying to vacuum it up.

Borax is supposed to do the same thing (in your house, not on your pets) &

doesn't float through the air. You can also buy a product called Fleago that is

comparable for using in your house.

[Guest guest]

I had no problem with it - just keep animals off carpet for a day or two.

You can put it on wood, but when you vacuum , my guess is most will come

up....maybe let it sit for awhile with no pets around. Put it where the

fleas hide.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of bbw

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:58 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

How much do you put on carpet? What about areas of natural hard wood, well

pine board that is finished? Any ideas for that? Thanks

From: <wilson33@... <mailto:wilson33%40sonic.net> >

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

<mailto: %40>

Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 12:36 PM

I have used DE - diatomaceous earth - giggles. It was great. Fleas fall off

animals into carpet and are dehydrated to death. Then vacuum them up.

I felt the same way until someone told me how great it was. Reapply after

shampooing the carpet (forgot the first time). Worked better than the 4

bombs I set off in desperation.

_____

From:

<mailto: %40>

[mailto:

<mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of rasheedaas

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:42 AM

<mailto: %40>

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: pets n fleas ?'s

,

I really urge you not to use frontline (and advantage)- it almost killed my

cat.

Many cats have been killed with these, or have seizures. It is so toxic that

a friend of mine who is chemically-sensitive, can get sick just be petting

an animal that has been treated with them.

I give my cat brewer's yeast, nutritional - I put it in her food. It is good

for other things too - she has a beautiful coat.

She's an indoor-outdoor cat, and I've never been bothered with fleas.

I also use a flea comb to catch the occasional flea, she likes being combed,

I use that time for bonding.

If there are fleas in your yard you can buy nematodes which will kill them,

and not hurt you or your pet.

I've never used DE. (don't know how to spell it either!). I'm a little

scared of it, as they instruct that one should wear a mask when using it so

as not to inhale, then what about the kitty?

But I have read that it is quite effective. If you do a search - put in

non-toxic or natural remedies for flea control - there are many other things

out there.

I would avoid frontline and advantage or anything similar. They don't tell

you about the adverse reactions. My vet recommended it. I wouldn't touch it.

good luck,

ellen

>

> Does anyone know anyway to treat pets besides using frontline? Frontline

> kills only what is on the pet at the moment (they can later pick up new

> fleas and ticks). I've heard of DE dianthamus sp? earth. Has anyone used

> this on their pets, and if so, how do you use it, is it put on them daily

> topically, or do you sprinkle it in their food?

>

> I've even heard that people ingest it as well, is this to kill parasites?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Be cautious with DE. It is very fine powder but still can scratch and cut,

which is how it kills bugs. You don't want to inhale it. I have used it along

baseboards to get rid of ants in the house and it worked beautifully.

deb

> >

> > Does anyone know anyway to treat pets besides using frontline? Frontline

> > kills only what is on the pet at the moment (they can later pick up new

> > fleas and ticks). I've heard of DE dianthamus sp? earth. Has anyone used

> > this on their pets, and if so, how do you use it, is it put on them daily

> > topically, or do you sprinkle it in their food?

> >

> > I've even heard that people ingest it as well, is this to kill parasites?

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, this is why I did not use it for fleas.  The pet noses are so close to the

carpet. 

From: alicia.colon@... <alicia.colon@...>

Subject: [ ] OT: pets n fleas ?'s

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 12:00 PM

 

DE kinda sounds like fiberglass! What is it normally used for aside from

people putting it on their pets? Is it used in farming?

I take baths w/a mud blend, it's very fine and sometimes gets airborne,

they have cautions written all over the pkg. not to breath it in, I'm

thinking all these dry substances can damage to our lungs/eyes, etc. from

exposure.

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[Guest guest]

I believe it is used by farmers and mixed in with animal feed to keep bugs from

eating the feed, among other uses.

http://www.earthworkshealth.com/organic-pest-control.php

deb

>

>

> From: alicia.colon@... <alicia.colon@...>

> Subject: [ ] OT: pets n fleas ?'s

>

> Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 12:00 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> DE kinda sounds like fiberglass! What is it normally used for aside from

> people putting it on their pets? Is it used in farming?

>

> I take baths w/a mud blend, it's very fine and sometimes gets airborne,

> they have cautions written all over the pkg. not to breath it in, I'm

> thinking all these dry substances can damage to our lungs/eyes, etc. from

> exposure.

>

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