Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 > > I'm up to 6 or 7 caps three times a day when I noticed that I should be spreading them out into 4 doses per day by now... That sounds tricky because I like to take them with meals. Anyone have suggestions for when to take the 4 doses? My main concerns are 1) assimilation, and 2) remembering to take them. > > By spreading out my doses, I'm hopeful that my herx will ease: insomnia! The function of spreading the doses is mostly to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the day. But some herbs are removed from circulation pretty quickly (you can notice from urine stains sometimes ...). You could stick to three times a day and use a bit more time between the meals. I wouldn't worry too much about this issue, many people cannot even get up to 3x4 caps a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I was never able to incorporate 4 times a day into my schedule. I treated with 3 times a day throughout. jo > > > > I'm up to 6 or 7 caps three times a day when I noticed that I should be spreading them out into 4 doses per day by now... That sounds tricky because I like to take them with meals. Anyone have suggestions for when to take the 4 doses? My main concerns are 1) assimilation, and 2) remembering to take them. > > > > By spreading out my doses, I'm hopeful that my herx will ease: insomnia! > > > The function of spreading the doses is mostly to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the day. But some herbs are removed from circulation pretty quickly (you can notice from urine stains sometimes ...). You could stick to three times a day and use a bit more time between the meals. I wouldn't worry too much about this issue, many people cannot even get up to 3x4 caps a day. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 me too. ellen > > > > > > I'm up to 6 or 7 caps three times a day when I noticed that I should be spreading them out into 4 doses per day by now... That sounds tricky because I like to take them with meals. Anyone have suggestions for when to take the 4 doses? My main concerns are 1) assimilation, and 2) remembering to take them. > > > > > > By spreading out my doses, I'm hopeful that my herx will ease: insomnia! > > > > > > The function of spreading the doses is mostly to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the day. But some herbs are removed from circulation pretty quickly (you can notice from urine stains sometimes ...). You could stick to three times a day and use a bit more time between the meals. I wouldn't worry too much about this issue, many people cannot even get up to 3x4 caps a day. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I have so many supplements to take it seems like I am taking them constantly - as often as I can. Only a couple bother my stomach so it doesn't seem to be a problem tho I have to admit, some days I don't make it thru them all. I think you have to just do as much as you can to start feeling better. Some of the rigid schedules that others stress over, don't seem to be the way to go - at least for me. Less stress is better - do what you can - that's my motto. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of rasheedaas Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:44 AM Subject: [ ] Re: 4x per day me too. ellen > > > > > > I'm up to 6 or 7 caps three times a day when I noticed that I should be spreading them out into 4 doses per day by now... That sounds tricky because I like to take them with meals. Anyone have suggestions for when to take the 4 doses? My main concerns are 1) assimilation, and 2) remembering to take them. > > > > > > By spreading out my doses, I'm hopeful that my herx will ease: insomnia! > > > > > > The function of spreading the doses is mostly to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the day. But some herbs are removed from circulation pretty quickly (you can notice from urine stains sometimes ...). You could stick to three times a day and use a bit more time between the meals. I wouldn't worry too much about this issue, many people cannot even get up to 3x4 caps a day. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 My progress report after switching to 4x per day: Since switching to 4x per day two weeks ago, I've only been able to sleep every *OTHER* night. Before, I was taking 18 per day (6+6+6) without any herx whatsoever. But now I'm only taking 15 per day (4+4+4+3), and I'm herxing (insomnia) much more. I've had to increase my nightly melatonin dose from 1mg to 3mg, and even that much doesn't always work... I can think of two possible causes for this sudden herx increase after my schedule change: 1) As Knotweed said before, " The function of spreading the doses is mostly to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the day. " I think this makes a lot of sense as the cause. also reiterates that these herbs go through the system very quickly. 2) On a 3x per day schedule, I had trained the 'chetes to brace themselves for a herb hit at mealtime. By changing my schedule, I caught them off their guard. With this insight, I'm considering spreading out my doses even further: 8x per day? Every waking hour? Continuous intravenous doses at night? The more spread out, the better, I suspect. But it only works if it fits into your lifestyle. Thoughts Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Phil, You didn't mention what herb you are talking about? Interesting thought though and sounds very sensible to me, but what do I know?? Dixie On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM, hadleypr <phil@...> wrote: > > > My progress report after switching to 4x per day: > > Since switching to 4x per day two weeks ago, I've only been able to sleep > every *OTHER* night. Before, I was taking 18 per day (6+6+6) without any > herx whatsoever. But now I'm only taking 15 per day (4+4+4+3), and I'm > herxing (insomnia) much more. I've had to increase my nightly melatonin dose > from 1mg to 3mg, and even that much doesn't always work... > > I can think of two possible causes for this sudden herx increase after my > schedule change: > > 1) As Knotweed said before, " The function of spreading the doses is mostly > to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the > day. " I think this makes a lot of sense as the cause. also > reiterates that these herbs go through the system very quickly. > > 2) On a 3x per day schedule, I had trained the 'chetes to brace themselves > for a herb hit at mealtime. By changing my schedule, I caught them off their > guard. With this insight, I'm considering spreading out my doses even > further: 8x per day? Every waking hour? Continuous intravenous doses at > night? The more spread out, the better, I suspect. But it only works if it > fits into your lifestyle. > > Thoughts > > Phil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 > > 2) On a 3x per day schedule, I had trained the 'chetes to brace themselves for a herb hit at mealtime. By changing my schedule, I caught them off their guard. With this insight, I'm considering spreading out my doses even further: 8x per day? Every waking hour? Continuous intravenous doses at night? The more spread out, the better, I suspect. But it only works if it fits into your lifestyle. yes, you could try to spread out as much as possible, or keep a bit longer on the lower dose before proceeding. If the 'herx' is too much for you maybe you need more time to ramp up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Phil, Have you had your blood tested for other things, such as iron levels, hormone levels, done any heavy metal testing? It's important to make sure you don't ignore other conditions that might weaken your body and cause stress to your immune system. If you can get your body functioning better overall it will help in your fight against Lyme. It's always better not to assume, but to test and be certain. I say this because I'm as guilty as the next person. Turns out I have incredibly low iron levels, low testosterone levels, and lead poisoning to add to the fun. Controlling some of these secondary problems is making me stronger (very slowly). Also, make sure you're consulting with someone who really knows what they're doing. You might be taking supplements that work at cross purposes. Good luck. Arthur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Dixie, Oh, sorry. I'm talking about the core protocol herbs that I take. Phil > > > > > > > My progress report after switching to 4x per day: > > > > Since switching to 4x per day two weeks ago, I've only been able to sleep > > every *OTHER* night. Before, I was taking 18 per day (6+6+6) without any > > herx whatsoever. But now I'm only taking 15 per day (4+4+4+3), and I'm > > herxing (insomnia) much more. I've had to increase my nightly melatonin dose > > from 1mg to 3mg, and even that much doesn't always work... > > > > I can think of two possible causes for this sudden herx increase after my > > schedule change: > > > > 1) As Knotweed said before, " The function of spreading the doses is mostly > > to keep the concentration as high (and even) as possible throughout the > > day. " I think this makes a lot of sense as the cause. also > > reiterates that these herbs go through the system very quickly. > > > > 2) On a 3x per day schedule, I had trained the 'chetes to brace themselves > > for a herb hit at mealtime. By changing my schedule, I caught them off their > > guard. With this insight, I'm considering spreading out my doses even > > further: 8x per day? Every waking hour? Continuous intravenous doses at > > night? The more spread out, the better, I suspect. But it only works if it > > fits into your lifestyle. > > > > Thoughts > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for the ideas, Arthur. Yes, I've had all of those things checked a couple of years ago, and then re-checked last year. My mercury levels have dropped to " reasonable " levels. Chelating proved to be rather difficult, given that I was herxing already. But after lowering my heavy metals load, I've seen a lot more progress with my energy levels to function normally at work and do short, easy outdoor activities. > > Phil, Have you had your blood tested for other things, such as iron > levels, hormone levels, done any heavy metal testing? It's important > to make sure you don't ignore other conditions that might weaken your > body and cause stress to your immune system. If you can get your body > functioning better overall it will help in your fight against Lyme. > It's always better not to assume, but to test and be certain. I say > this because I'm as guilty as the next person. Turns out I have > incredibly low iron levels, low testosterone levels, and lead > poisoning to add to the fun. Controlling some of these secondary > problems is making me stronger (very slowly). Also, make sure you're > consulting with someone who really knows what they're doing. You might > be taking supplements that work at cross purposes. Good luck. Arthur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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