Re: Herbal Book Resource/Sal

[Guest guest]

Sal -

Wow, that looks like a great book. Thanks for sharing with ME! Have

you already read up on the core protocol herbs recommended by Buhner?

If you find other references for herbs to treat lyme, please let us

know also.

Looks like one to add eventually to my library too.

Love,

Jnanda

>

> Thank you for offering to pop over some sites, Jnanda. I would

appreciate that if you remember and have to time. I want to share

this book that I am finding quite informative and I think pretty

thorough. Sal

>

> http://www.amazon.com/Medical-Herbalism-Principles-Practices-

Medicine/dp/0892817496/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?

ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1198955818 & sr=8-1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Jnanda,

Oh good! It's very comprehensive.

Yeah. I have his book. I am on meds at the moment for babesia and am having

lymph nodes swell in my thighs and am thinking about red root. I am concerned

about the coagulation effects and don't understand how that can be a good thing,

though.

I'm also taking Burbur and Pinella from nutramedix (Cowden Protocol) and wonder

if I can take all or need to come off the Burbur or up my dosage instead. These

swollen nodes are concerning me. And they are only in my thighs for some reason.

Is that sometimes connected to Bartonella?

Sal

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From: " jnanda " <jnanda@...>

Sal -

Wow, that looks like a great book. Thanks for sharing with ME! Have

you already read up on the core protocol herbs recommended by Buhner?

If you find other references for herbs to treat lyme, please let us

know also.

Looks like one to add eventually to my library too.

Love,

Jnanda

>

> Thank you for offering to pop over some sites, Jnanda. I would

appreciate that if you remember and have to time. I want to share

this book that I am finding quite informative and I think pretty

thorough. Sal

>

> http://www.amazon.com/Medical-Herbalism-Principles-Practices-

Medicine/dp/0892817496/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?

ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1198955818 & sr=8-1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sal:

If you are on Buhner's CORE protocol, you shouldn't have a problem with

coagulation, If you are not taking coagulants or anticoagulants.

Jim.

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creekhopper@... wrote:

Hey Jnanda,

Oh good! It's very comprehensive.

Yeah. I have his book. I am on meds at the moment for babesia and am having

lymph nodes swell in my thighs and am thinking about red root. I am concerned

about the coagulation effects and don't understand how that can be a good thing,

though.

I'm also taking Burbur and Pinella from nutramedix (Cowden Protocol) and wonder

if I can take all or need to come off the Burbur or up my dosage instead. These

swollen nodes are concerning me. And they are only in my thighs for some reason.

Is that sometimes connected to Bartonella?

Sal

[Guest guest]

I'm not on the core as of now. So I guess I need to research this?

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From: " R. Bayliss " <jbbigrod@...>

Sal:

If you are on Buhner's CORE protocol, you shouldn't have a problem with

coagulation, If you are not taking coagulants or anticoagulants.

Jim.

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creekhopper@... wrote:

Hey Jnanda,

Oh good! It's very comprehensive.

Yeah. I have his book. I am on meds at the moment for babesia and am having

lymph nodes swell in my thighs and am thinking about red root. I am concerned

about the coagulation effects and don't understand how that can be a good thing,

though.

I'm also taking Burbur and Pinella from nutramedix (Cowden Protocol) and wonder

if I can take all or need to come off the Burbur or up my dosage instead. These

swollen nodes are concerning me. And they are only in my thighs for some reason.

Is that sometimes connected to Bartonella?

Sal

[Guest guest]

Sal:

Have you listened to 's CD put out this year? That will help you

too. As I remember one herb thins a little as the other thickens a little, and

he feels that they will compliment each other in that department.

It is the total combination of Buhner's recommended herbs that counts. Not

just one or two of them. I take anywhere from 7 to 10 or more of his herbs on

any given day. They are a balance for MY symptoms.

I take it you have studied his book?

Jim.

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creekhopper@... wrote:

I'm not on the core as of now. So I guess I need to research this?

[Guest guest]

Not indepth. I was not aware of the CD. Thank you. I can see that this is not a

hodge podge of herbals that fight lyme, et al... Thank you for the explanation.

Sal

--

http://lymeactivist.wordpress.com/.

Jim >>Have you listened to 's CD put out this year? That will help you

too. As I remember one herb thins a little as the other thickens a little, and

he feels that they will compliment each other in that department.

It is the total combination of Buhner's recommended herbs that counts. Not just

one or two of them. I take anywhere from 7 to 10 or more of his herbs on any

given day. They are a balance for MY symptoms.

I take it you have studied his book? >>

[Guest guest]

Sal:

THe CD was excellent. It contains NEW info also. And yes, this is a very

scientific study on what helps and what we need to feel better. He believes

that we can live WITH the little critters, and not be sick. We have to have

everything in harmony in our systems for this to happen. I don't follow my diet

like I should, but do follow his herbal protocols as close as I can. And they

sure have helped tremendously for me.

I personally don't think you need parts of other protocols IF you follow

Buhner's pretty closely. But I also feel you need a lot more of his extended

herbs to make up a total protocol for YOU!

Hope this helps you get on a good regimen.

Jim.

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creekhopper@... wrote:

Not indepth. I was not aware of the CD. Thank you. I can see that this

is not a hodge podge of herbals that fight lyme, et al... Thank you for the

explanation. Sal

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jim. I didn't know he addressed more than Lyme in his CD, although I

could see that from his site. I very much like the idea of creating harmony and

am already weary of these antibiotics I am on. I was thinking to slowly add to

as I am not ready to totally give up on antibiotics yet. But I am now not sure

that is a good idea. On the other hand, it is very comforting to know I have

options. I do have a question. I am dealling with candida. Do these herbs also

destroy intestinal flora? Sal

http://lymeactivist.wordpress.com/.

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From: " R. Bayliss " <jbbigrod@...>

Sal:

THe CD was excellent. It contains NEW info also. And yes, this is a very

scientific study on what helps and what we need to feel better. He believes that

we can live WITH the little critters, and not be sick. We have to have

everything in harmony in our systems for this to happen. I don't follow my diet

like I should, but do follow his herbal protocols as close as I can. And they

sure have helped tremendously for me.

I personally don't think you need parts of other protocols IF you follow

Buhner's pretty closely. But I also feel you need a lot more of his extended

herbs to make up a total protocol for YOU!

Hope this helps you get on a good regimen.

Jim.

###

creekhopper@... wrote:

Not indepth. I was not aware of the CD. Thank you. I can see that this is not a

hodge podge of herbals that fight lyme, et al... Thank you for the explanation.

Sal

[Guest guest]

Hi Sal:

He talks mostly about Lyme, but not totally. I don't blame you for being

weary of abx. I don't know how you do it even. I did a couple months of it and

just couldn't take another day of it, so went to herbs only back in Feb 2006.

Sure am glad I did. I am not perfect by any means, but so much better than two

years ago. Many times better.

Everyone is different. But the abx are problems with candida. The proper

herbal protocol will help with that problem too. I have only had trouble once

and it wasn't real bad. Is Sal, for male or female? Hard for me to tell on

some names.

Take care,

Jim.

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creekhopper@... wrote:

Thanks, Jim. I didn't know he addressed more than Lyme in his CD, although I

could see that from his site. I very much like the idea of creating harmony and

am already weary of these antibiotics I am on. I was thinking to slowly add to

as I am not ready to totally give up on antibiotics yet. But I am now not sure

that is a good idea. On the other hand, it is very comforting to know I have

options. I do have a question. I am dealling with candida. Do these herbs also

destroy intestinal flora? Sal

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm dealing with the candida now (and have been on abx for about 3

months), and don't like medications (although herbs are also meds) and I do not

like feeling dependent on people for my well being. Needing help is one thing,

but depending is another. So... thus I am here! Female: Sally Ann Thunder Ann.

http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/tn4.html :-D

My sister used mostly energy to heal herself (extreme case of dysautonomia with

neuropathy, CFS, fibro, PAIN, loss of use of a leg, wildly swinging BP and so

on), and I've seen the results. She also does not have Bb (or at least we think

she doesn't). So, I'm not sure what I want or need for the long run. I am glad

to hear you are better. Good news! Thanks, Jim. Sal

>>Hi Sal:

He talks mostly about Lyme, but not totally. I don't blame you for being weary

of abx. I don't know how you do it even. I did a couple months of it and just

couldn't take another day of it, so went to herbs only back in Feb 2006. Sure am

glad I did. I am not perfect by any means, but so much better than two years

ago. Many times better.

Everyone is different. But the abx are problems with candida. The proper herbal

protocol will help with that problem too. I have only had trouble once and it

wasn't real bad. Is Sal, for male or female? Hard for me to tell on some names.

Take care,

Jim.>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the clarification of your name, Sally, so I kinda know who I am

dealing with.

The abx and nothing like herbs. Some herbs are quite strong, but those that

Buhner recommends can be taken without supervision, usually, IF you follow his

protocols. Just keep in mind that no two people are exactly alike and adjust

accordingly IF necessary.

One herb I used that I got in trouble with at first, was Coptis, but Buhner

doesn't recommend that. I for the most part stick to his recommendations

nowadays.

Maybe hooking up with Selma on here would help too. She has been gone

vacationing again, but is back now, so maybe she will read this. She has had

candida problems also. So might be more help than me. I think as long as you

are on abx though, you can have more problems with that.

Take care, hope you find the answers fairly soon. I started getting better

almost right away once I got off the abx in 2006. Always some setbacks, but

made good progress most of the time.

Jim.

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creekhopper@... wrote:

Well, I'm dealing with the candida now (and have been on abx for about

3 months), and don't like medications (although herbs are also meds) and I do

not like feeling dependent on people for my well being. Needing help is one

thing, but depending is another. So... thus I am here! Female: Sally Ann Thunder

Ann.

http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/tn4.html :-D

My sister used mostly energy to heal herself (extreme case of dysautonomia with

neuropathy, CFS, fibro, PAIN, loss of use of a leg, wildly swinging BP and so

on), and I've seen the results. She also does not have Bb (or at least we think

she doesn't). So, I'm not sure what I want or need for the long run. I am glad

to hear you are better. Good news! Thanks, Jim. Sal

>>Hi Sal:

He talks mostly about Lyme, but not totally. I don't blame you for being weary

of abx. I don't know how you do it even. I did a couple months of it and just

couldn't take another day of it, so went to herbs only back in Feb 2006. Sure am

glad I did. I am not perfect by any means, but so much better than two years

ago. Many times better.

Everyone is different. But the abx are problems with candida. The proper herbal

protocol will help with that problem too. I have only had trouble once and it

wasn't real bad. Is Sal, for male or female? Hard for me to tell on some names.

Take care,

Jim.>>

[Guest guest]

:-) Ok. That makes sense. It sounds like I should start following the protocol

if I am going to do this, and then branch out from there carefully if I see the

need to do so, which might not happen. My body will direct the way (I guess..),

as evidenced by the candida problem.. Sheesh. This is good to hear. Thank you,

Jim. Its also good to know there are others on the list that are dealing with

dysautonomia and its quirky complications. Sal

>>Thanks for the clarification of your name, Sally, so I kinda know who I am

dealing with. The abx and nothing like herbs. Some herbs are quite strong, but

those that Buhner recommends can be taken without supervision, usually, IF you

follow his protocols. Just keep in mind that no two people are exactly alike and

adjust accordingly IF necessary.

One herb I used that I got in trouble with at first, was Coptis, but Buhner

doesn't recommend that. I for the most part stick to his recommendations

nowadays.

Maybe hooking up with Selma on here would help too. She has been gone

vacationing again, but is back now, so maybe she will read this. She has had

candida problems also. So might be more help than me. I think as long as you are

on abx though, you can have more problems with that.

Take care, hope you find the answers fairly soon. I started getting better

almost right away once I got off the abx in 2006. Always some setbacks, but made

good progress most of the time.

Jim.>>