Re: Air hunger?

[Guest guest]

Air hunger is often related to Babesia (formally called Babesiosis). This is

another Lyme co-infection that often accompanies Lyme. As well there are

different strains of Babesia. Tests for Babesia, as Lyme, are not always

reliable and can give false negatives.

Buhner talks about Cryptolepis and Artemisia for Babesia.

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> The last couple of days I think I have been experiencing a herx reaction with

leg and arm pains, electrical sensations in the bottoms of my feet, tremors,

fatigue, headache, extra-blurry vision and the feeling that I can't get a good

breath(air hunger?).

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> Are these all symptoms of just Lyme or something more?

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> Thanks and blessings,

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[Guest guest]

I have had most of those symptoms and have been diagnosed with Bartonella,

Babesia, and " Lyme " .

Connie

[ ] Air hunger?

The last couple of days I think I have been experiencing a herx reaction with

leg and arm pains, electrical sensations in the bottoms of my feet, tremors,

fatigue, headache, extra-blurry vision and the feeling that I can't get a good

breath(air hunger?).

Are these all symptoms of just Lyme or something more?

Thanks and blessings,

[Guest guest]

I have some air hunger and I think I only have Lyme - didn't test positive for

babesia and don't have any of its other symptoms. I am wondering whether Lyme

all by itself can cause some air hunger.

Also, for eyes, I have been able to get rid of all Lyme eye symptoms by drinking

mangosteen juice, an anti-inflammatory antioxidant juice. I drink the Ultra and

mango-xan versions - there are lots of them in healthfood stores and online. If

you try it, go slowly and drink a lot of water, as it can be powerful. - Robin

[ ] Air hunger?

The last couple of days I think I have been experiencing a herx reaction with

leg and arm pains, electrical sensations in the bottoms of my feet, tremors,

fatigue, headache, extra-blurry vision and the feeling that I can't get a good

breath(air hunger?).

Are these all symptoms of just Lyme or something more?

Thanks and blessings,

[Guest guest]

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> Air hunger is often related to Babesia (formally called Babesiosis). This is

another Lyme co-infection that often accompanies Lyme. As well there are

different strains of Babesia. Tests for Babesia, as Lyme, are not always

reliable and can give false negatives.

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> Buhner talks about Cryptolepis and Artemisia for Babesia.

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Thanks,

[Guest guest]

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> I have had most of those symptoms and have been diagnosed with Bartonella,

Babesia, and " Lyme " .

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> Connie

Wow, Connie, I was thinking that I just had Lyme, but who knows.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

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> I have some air hunger and I think I only have Lyme - didn't test positive

for babesia and don't have any of its other symptoms. I am wondering whether

Lyme all by itself can cause some air hunger.

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> Also, for eyes, I have been able to get rid of all Lyme eye symptoms by

drinking mangosteen juice, an anti-inflammatory antioxidant juice. I drink the

Ultra and mango-xan versions - there are lots of them in healthfood stores and

online. If you try it, go slowly and drink a lot of water, as it can be

powerful. - Robin

Haven't taken a test for Babesia. Tested neg. for Lyme, but was only given the

test and then kicked to the curb. ; )

It's a good thing we have each other for support and can take things into our

own hands, eh!

I will try the mangosteen juice. Could you tell where you get it and how much

per day do you drink?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WERE BITTEN-

you can sometimes determine the likelihood of one or others of the

co-infections. For instance, I am trying to find out the percentage of ticks

in my old haunt that carry babesia. My test was negative, but I sometimes

have minor symptoms.

This is highly detailed, but it can be done.

For instance a doctor treating in the area where I was bitten has now

figured out that most of the Borrelia he is seeing is not BURGDORFERI!

ILADS doctors do pay attention to this.

How much this matters to our primarily herbal protocol is quite a guess - I

imagine not much, as plants work differently than pharms, which are

engineered to target specific " items " .

Still, it can be useful to know in terms of overall progress an well being.

And the cryptolesis and artmisia are imp.

[Guest guest]

I also am interested in buying Mangosteen Juice.

Meanwhile, thank you for this valuable information.

FYI: testing for the co-infections is notoriously difficult.

Plz. research before spending the money - not that I DISCOURAGE THE TESTING,

BUT just to say research prior to testing.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Robin. I'm gonna get some.

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> The ELISA misses most Lyme cases. IGeneX IgM and IgG Western blot catches

60-70%, so Lyme is still a clinical diagnosis.

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> I get the Ultra mangosteen from Vitacost online and the mango-xan from the

healthfood store. I drink 1/2 ounce in the morn and eve. - Robin

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Marie

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> I got read of air hunger with Q10 600mg spread throught out the day and

> magnesium

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> Marie 

[Guest guest]

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> DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WERE BITTEN-

> you can sometimes determine the likelihood of one or others of the

> co-infections. For instance, I am trying to find out the percentage of ticks

> in my old haunt that carry babesia. My test was negative, but I sometimes

> have minor symptoms.

> This is highly detailed, but it can be done.

> For instance a doctor treating in the area where I was bitten has now

> figured out that most of the Borrelia he is seeing is not BURGDORFERI!

Is this in the US, and what Bb version is it? We in Europe already have multiple

Bb versions to deal with, and some of those have very different properties (but

allopathic medicine uses the same treatment for all of them).

The Lyme symptom lists are unreliable IMHO; many people probably have undetected

coinfections (Burrascano recently said all his patients have tick

coinfections?). So what is reported as a Borrelia (lyme) symptom might as well

be from an unidentified coinfection, and the other way round probably.

> ILADS doctors do pay attention to this.

I justed checked symptoms for Bart infection, and every ILADS doc seems to have

his/her own list, with little overlap; they cannot be talking about the same

infection... Treatment similar story.

> How much this matters to our primarily herbal protocol is quite a guess - I

> imagine not much, as plants work differently than pharms, which are

> engineered to target specific " items " .

> Still, it can be useful to know in terms of overall progress an well being.

Yes, the herbs mostly target the disease manifestation (based on symptoms),

while allopathic drugs supposedly target the 'cause', if it can be found (based

on bloodtests, first of all). The truth is probably somewhere in between, e.g.

many ABX have anti-inflammatory actions just like some of the Buhner herbs.