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I've had similar issues as this. It does sound like your body is fighting

Bartonella right now, in my opinion. I'm taking A-Bart for Bartonella which

really helped my nerve and emotional problems. The trouble is you can't buy it

yourself. You have to purchase it from a doctor. I believe Buhner suggests some

things for Bartonella, you could try those. By the way, my doctor says that most

of the symptoms we experience are caused by our body fighting the bug. So, in a

way it's a good thing. It could be that you may be experiencing a huge herx from

the Cowden herbs. If so, try stopping those herbs (tinctures) for a few days and

see if your symptoms lessen. If they do you could just lessen the amount of

drops you are taking. I believe the Cowden herbs that work for Bart are Cumanda

and Banderol (I could be wrong on this).

I've also been using a detox bath lately that is really helping me. If you are

sensitive start at half strength. I did after I tried it at full strength a

couple of times. It really wiped me out! But now I'm able to take full strength

baths.

6 cups borax

3 cups baking soda

2 cups cornstarch

Dissolve in warm bath (NOT HOT) and soak for 35 minutes. You can rinse after,

but don't wash. Take bath twice a week.

Good luck!

Connie

[ ] Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly awaiting

it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since 2007. I've made

some good progress addressing the underlying physical, emotional and spiritual

issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since last November.

Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

-Hot, burning skin sensations all over

-Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

-Sore tendons and joints

-Sleepy sensations

-Sore soles, especially in a.m.

-Headaches

-Jaw pain

-Profound anxiety

I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains and

stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague anxiety that

builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm going to have a

nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there is no way out of

this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the emotional symptoms

erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, racking sobs that feel like

they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. Once this happens, the body pains

turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve pains. The pain is horrible, but the body

now feels deeply relaxed and at peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional

symptoms are also that of relief, peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from

the dark thoughts earlier in the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can

talk myself through the tougher emotions.

From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are my

questions:

1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this?

2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the emotional

release?

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Hi there - yes I and others have had the uncontrollable weeping and deep

profound sadness/hopeless feelings.

will answer more later.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:54 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly

> awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since

> 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical,

> emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since

> last November.

>

> Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

>

> -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> -Sore tendons and joints

> -Sleepy sensations

> -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> -Headaches

> -Jaw pain

> -Profound anxiety

>

> I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains

> and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague

> anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm

> going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there

> is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the

> emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled,

> racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart.

> Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve

> pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at

> peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief,

> peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in

> the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the

> tougher emotions.

>

> From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are

> my questions:

>

> 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this?

>

> 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> emotional release?

>

>

>

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I too have had many of these symptoms. I have a far infra red sauna that helps

and soaking in epsom salts, magnesium oiland lavender essential oil in a warm

bath is helpful. Good luck in your treatment.

Vicki

>

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly

> > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since

> > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical,

> > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since

> > last November.

> >

> > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> >

> > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> > -Sore tendons and joints

> > -Sleepy sensations

> > -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > -Headaches

> > -Jaw pain

> > -Profound anxiety

> >

> > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains

> > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague

> > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm

> > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there

> > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the

> > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled,

> > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart.

> > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve

> > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at

> > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief,

> > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in

> > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the

> > tougher emotions.

> >

> > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are

> > my questions:

> >

> > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this?

> >

> > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> > emotional release?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Do you soak in the said things individually or all together?

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From: vljoop <vickij56@...>

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 1:49:53 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

I too have had many of these symptoms. I have a far infra red sauna that helps

and soaking in epsom salts, magnesium oiland lavender essential oil in a warm

bath is helpful. Good luck in your treatment.

Vicki

>

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly

> > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since

> > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical,

> > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since

> > last November.

> >

> > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> >

> > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> > -Sore tendons and joints

> > -Sleepy sensations

> > -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > -Headaches

> > -Jaw pain

> > -Profound anxiety

> >

> > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains

> > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague

> > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm

> > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there

> > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the

> > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled,

> > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart.

> > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve

> > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at

> > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief,

> > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in

> > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the

> > tougher emotions.

> >

> > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are

> > my questions:

> >

> > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this?

> >

> > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> > emotional release?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Have you looked into lithium orotate for the mood issues? Rosner

discussed this in his book and many people on various groups swear that it is

helpful for the depression, anxiety, mood swings, etc. Many sources for it -

here's one link.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ADR002/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL405 & CAWELAID=487\

529891

deb

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly

> > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since

> > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical,

> > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms

since

> > > last November.

> > >

> > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > >

> > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> > > -Sore tendons and joints

> > > -Sleepy sensations

> > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > -Headaches

> > > -Jaw pain

> > > -Profound anxiety

> > >

> > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains

> > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague

> > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm

> > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there

> > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally

the

> > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled,

> > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart.

> > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve

> > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at

> > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of

relief,

> > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in

> > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the

> > > tougher emotions.

> > >

> > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are

> > > my questions:

> > >

> > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help

this?

> > >

> > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> > > emotional release?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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I get the same anxiety feel like I am dying sensation. Not just in my head that

is the way I feel. Oddly, mine to can last an hour go away then come back again

in the same day. Emotional like you seem to describe which I cry my eyes out

then I get really angry at this bacteria and push myself.

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Hello Vicky,

Sorry to hear you go throught this things,

For pain I do liver flush and colonics sometime two consecutive  and it works.I

hav heard that the 880 frequency on the coil had removed pain in some people .

th elyme gives alot of pain you may put a message on lyme _an_rife

many will answer you how they did

hoping you will get better

Marie

________________________________

From: Kathy Goebel <ksgoebel@...>

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:52:29 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

 

Do you soak in the said things individually or all together?

________________________________

From: vljoop <vickij56@...>

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 1:49:53 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

I too have had many of these symptoms. I have a far infra red sauna that helps

and soaking in epsom salts, magnesium oiland lavender essential oil in a warm

bath is helpful. Good luck in your treatment.

Vicki

>

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly

> > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since

> > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical,

> > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since

> > last November.

> >

> > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> >

> > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> > -Sore tendons and joints

> > -Sleepy sensations

> > -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > -Headaches

> > -Jaw pain

> > -Profound anxiety

> >

> > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains

> > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague

> > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm

> > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there

> > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the

> > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled,

> > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart.

> > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve

> > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at

> > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief,

> > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in

> > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the

> > tougher emotions.

> >

> > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are

> > my questions:

> >

> > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this?

> >

> > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> > emotional release?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit better the

last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell or a near death event.

The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly

> > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since

> > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical,

> > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms

since

> > > > last November.

> > > >

> > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > > >

> > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> > > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> > > > -Sore tendons and joints

> > > > -Sleepy sensations

> > > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > > -Headaches

> > > > -Jaw pain

> > > > -Profound anxiety

> > > >

> > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body

pains

> > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague

> > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like

I'm

> > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " ,

" there

> > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally

the

> > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled,

> > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my

heart.

> > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve

> > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and

at

> > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of

relief,

> > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier

in

> > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the

> > > > tougher emotions.

> > > >

> > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here

are

> > > > my questions:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help

this?

> > > >

> > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> > > > emotional release?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit better

> the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell or a near

> death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am

> eagerly

> > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol

> since

> > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying

> physical,

> > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of

> symptoms since

> > > > > last November.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over

> > > > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching

> > > > > -Sore tendons and joints

> > > > > -Sleepy sensations

> > > > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > > > -Headaches

> > > > > -Jaw pain

> > > > > -Profound anxiety

> > > > >

> > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over

> body pains

> > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have

> vague

> > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel

> like I'm

> > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " ,

> " there

> > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc.

> Finally the

> > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep,

> uncontrolled,

> > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my

> heart.

> > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning

> nerve

> > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed

> and at

> > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of

> relief,

> > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts

> earlier in

> > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself

> through the

> > > > > tougher emotions.

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows.

> Here are

> > > > > my questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol

> help this?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the

> > > > > emotional release?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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It sure helps with my moods. I take 2 every morning. Definitely worth a try.

Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit

> better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell

> or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today.

> > > > > Am

> eagerly

> > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden

> > > > > protocol

> since

> > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying

> physical,

> > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of

> symptoms since

> > > > > last November.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain,

> > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy

> > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > > > -Headaches

> > > > > -Jaw pain

> > > > > -Profound anxiety

> > > > >

> > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull

> > > > > all-over

> body pains

> > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I

> > > > > have

> vague

> > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I

> > > > > feel

> like I'm

> > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be

> > > > > dying " ,

> " there

> > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc.

> Finally the

> > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep,

> uncontrolled,

> > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out

> > > > > of my

> heart.

> > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp,

> > > > > burning

> nerve

> > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply

> > > > > relaxed

> and at

> > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also

> > > > > that of

> relief,

> > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts

> earlier in

> > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself

> through the

> > > > > tougher emotions.

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows.

> Here are

> > > > > my questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's

> > > > > protocol

> help this?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this,

> > > > > with the emotional release?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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i tdi dnothing to me gerovital was effective in half an hour an dgives energy

..needs to be taken in the morning

Marie

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Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 1:54:20 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

 

It sure helps with my moods. I take 2 every morning. Definitely worth a try.

Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit

> better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell

> or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today.

> > > > > Am

> eagerly

> > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden

> > > > > protocol

> since

> > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying

> physical,

> > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of

> symptoms since

> > > > > last November.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain,

> > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy

> > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > > > -Headaches

> > > > > -Jaw pain

> > > > > -Profound anxiety

> > > > >

> > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull

> > > > > all-over

> body pains

> > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I

> > > > > have

> vague

> > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I

> > > > > feel

> like I'm

> > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be

> > > > > dying " ,

> " there

> > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc.

> Finally the

> > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep,

> uncontrolled,

> > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out

> > > > > of my

> heart.

> > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp,

> > > > > burning

> nerve

> > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply

> > > > > relaxed

> and at

> > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also

> > > > > that of

> relief,

> > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts

> earlier in

> > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself

> through the

> > > > > tougher emotions.

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows.

> Here are

> > > > > my questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's

> > > > > protocol

> help this?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this,

> > > > > with the emotional release?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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What frequencies have worked for you?

Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit

> better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell

> or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today.

> > > > > Am

> eagerly

> > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden

> > > > > protocol

> since

> > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying

> physical,

> > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of

> symptoms since

> > > > > last November.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain,

> > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy

> > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > > > -Headaches

> > > > > -Jaw pain

> > > > > -Profound anxiety

> > > > >

> > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull

> > > > > all-over

> body pains

> > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I

> > > > > have

> vague

> > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I

> > > > > feel

> like I'm

> > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be

> > > > > dying " ,

> " there

> > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc.

> Finally the

> > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep,

> uncontrolled,

> > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out

> > > > > of my

> heart.

> > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp,

> > > > > burning

> nerve

> > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply

> > > > > relaxed

> and at

> > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also

> > > > > that of

> relief,

> > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts

> earlier in

> > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself

> through the

> > > > > tougher emotions.

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows.

> Here are

> > > > > my questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's

> > > > > protocol

> help this?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this,

> > > > > with the emotional release?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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For the pain I did not use a frequency. I used  2 colonics a week up to 3

and colema or liver flush I read that someone got read of the pain by the

frequency 880

Hoep this help

Marie

________________________________

From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...>

Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 9:04:57 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

 

What frequencies have worked for you?

Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern

What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit

> better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell

> or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today.

> > > > > Am

> eagerly

> > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden

> > > > > protocol

> since

> > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying

> physical,

> > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of

> symptoms since

> > > > > last November.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are:

> > > > >

> > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain,

> > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy

> > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m.

> > > > > -Headaches

> > > > > -Jaw pain

> > > > > -Profound anxiety

> > > > >

> > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull

> > > > > all-over

> body pains

> > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I

> > > > > have

> vague

> > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I

> > > > > feel

> like I'm

> > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be

> > > > > dying " ,

> " there

> > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc.

> Finally the

> > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep,

> uncontrolled,

> > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out

> > > > > of my

> heart.

> > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp,

> > > > > burning

> nerve

> > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply

> > > > > relaxed

> and at

> > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also

> > > > > that of

> relief,

> > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts

> earlier in

> > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself

> through the

> > > > > tougher emotions.

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows.

> Here are

> > > > > my questions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's

> > > > > protocol

> help this?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this,

> > > > > with the emotional release?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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