Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I've had similar issues as this. It does sound like your body is fighting Bartonella right now, in my opinion. I'm taking A-Bart for Bartonella which really helped my nerve and emotional problems. The trouble is you can't buy it yourself. You have to purchase it from a doctor. I believe Buhner suggests some things for Bartonella, you could try those. By the way, my doctor says that most of the symptoms we experience are caused by our body fighting the bug. So, in a way it's a good thing. It could be that you may be experiencing a huge herx from the Cowden herbs. If so, try stopping those herbs (tinctures) for a few days and see if your symptoms lessen. If they do you could just lessen the amount of drops you are taking. I believe the Cowden herbs that work for Bart are Cumanda and Banderol (I could be wrong on this). I've also been using a detox bath lately that is really helping me. If you are sensitive start at half strength. I did after I tried it at full strength a couple of times. It really wiped me out! But now I'm able to take full strength baths. 6 cups borax 3 cups baking soda 2 cups cornstarch Dissolve in warm bath (NOT HOT) and soak for 35 minutes. You can rinse after, but don't wash. Take bath twice a week. Good luck! Connie [ ] Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern Hi everyone, I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since last November. Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m. -Headaches -Jaw pain -Profound anxiety I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the tougher emotions. From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are my questions: 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the emotional release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Hi there - yes I and others have had the uncontrollable weeping and deep profound sadness/hopeless feelings. will answer more later. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:54 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since > last November. > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > -Sore tendons and joints > -Sleepy sensations > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > -Headaches > -Jaw pain > -Profound anxiety > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the > tougher emotions. > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are > my questions: > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > emotional release? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I too have had many of these symptoms. I have a far infra red sauna that helps and soaking in epsom salts, magnesium oiland lavender essential oil in a warm bath is helpful. Good luck in your treatment. Vicki > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since > > last November. > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > > -Sore tendons and joints > > -Sleepy sensations > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > -Headaches > > -Jaw pain > > -Profound anxiety > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the > > tougher emotions. > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are > > my questions: > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > > emotional release? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Do you soak in the said things individually or all together? ________________________________ From: vljoop <vickij56@...> Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 1:49:53 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern I too have had many of these symptoms. I have a far infra red sauna that helps and soaking in epsom salts, magnesium oiland lavender essential oil in a warm bath is helpful. Good luck in your treatment. Vicki > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since > > last November. > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > > -Sore tendons and joints > > -Sleepy sensations > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > -Headaches > > -Jaw pain > > -Profound anxiety > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the > > tougher emotions. > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are > > my questions: > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > > emotional release? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Have you looked into lithium orotate for the mood issues? Rosner discussed this in his book and many people on various groups swear that it is helpful for the depression, anxiety, mood swings, etc. Many sources for it - here's one link. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ADR002/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL405 & CAWELAID=487\ 529891 deb > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since > > > last November. > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > > > -Sore tendons and joints > > > -Sleepy sensations > > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > -Headaches > > > -Jaw pain > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are > > > my questions: > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > > > emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I get the same anxiety feel like I am dying sensation. Not just in my head that is the way I feel. Oddly, mine to can last an hour go away then come back again in the same day. Emotional like you seem to describe which I cry my eyes out then I get really angry at this bacteria and push myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hello Vicky, Sorry to hear you go throught this things, For pain I do liver flush and colonics sometime two consecutive and it works.I hav heard that the 880 frequency on the coil had removed pain in some people . th elyme gives alot of pain you may put a message on lyme _an_rife many will answer you how they did hoping you will get better Marie ________________________________ From: Kathy Goebel <ksgoebel@...> Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:52:29 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern  Do you soak in the said things individually or all together? ________________________________ From: vljoop <vickij56@...> Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 1:49:53 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern I too have had many of these symptoms. I have a far infra red sauna that helps and soaking in epsom salts, magnesium oiland lavender essential oil in a warm bath is helpful. Good luck in your treatment. Vicki > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since > > last November. > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > > -Sore tendons and joints > > -Sleepy sensations > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > -Headaches > > -Jaw pain > > -Profound anxiety > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the > > tougher emotions. > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are > > my questions: > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > > emotional release? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am eagerly > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol since > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying physical, > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of symptoms since > > > > last November. > > > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > > > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > > > > -Sore tendons and joints > > > > -Sleepy sensations > > > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > > -Headaches > > > > -Jaw pain > > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over body pains > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have vague > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel like I'm > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , " there > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. Finally the > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, uncontrolled, > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my heart. > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning nerve > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed and at > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of relief, > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts earlier in > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself through the > > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. Here are > > > > my questions: > > > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol help this? > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > > > > emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you? On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote: > > > Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit better > the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell or a near > death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. Am > eagerly > > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden protocol > since > > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying > physical, > > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of > symptoms since > > > > > last November. > > > > > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over > > > > > -Nerve pain, paresthesias and itching > > > > > -Sore tendons and joints > > > > > -Sleepy sensations > > > > > -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > > > -Headaches > > > > > -Jaw pain > > > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull all-over > body pains > > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I have > vague > > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I feel > like I'm > > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be dying " , > " there > > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. > Finally the > > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, > uncontrolled, > > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out of my > heart. > > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, burning > nerve > > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply relaxed > and at > > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also that of > relief, > > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts > earlier in > > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself > through the > > > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. > Here are > > > > > my questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's protocol > help this? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, with the > > > > > emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 It sure helps with my moods. I take 2 every morning. Definitely worth a try. Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you? On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote: > > > Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit > better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell > or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. > > > > > Am > eagerly > > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden > > > > > protocol > since > > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying > physical, > > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of > symptoms since > > > > > last November. > > > > > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain, > > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy > > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > > > -Headaches > > > > > -Jaw pain > > > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull > > > > > all-over > body pains > > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I > > > > > have > vague > > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I > > > > > feel > like I'm > > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be > > > > > dying " , > " there > > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. > Finally the > > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, > uncontrolled, > > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out > > > > > of my > heart. > > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, > > > > > burning > nerve > > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply > > > > > relaxed > and at > > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also > > > > > that of > relief, > > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts > earlier in > > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself > through the > > > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. > Here are > > > > > my questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's > > > > > protocol > help this? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, > > > > > with the emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 i tdi dnothing to me gerovital was effective in half an hour an dgives energy ..needs to be taken in the morning Marie ________________________________ From: <wilson33@...> Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 1:54:20 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern  It sure helps with my moods. I take 2 every morning. Definitely worth a try. Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you? On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote: > > > Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit > better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell > or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. > > > > > Am > eagerly > > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden > > > > > protocol > since > > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying > physical, > > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of > symptoms since > > > > > last November. > > > > > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain, > > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy > > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > > > -Headaches > > > > > -Jaw pain > > > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull > > > > > all-over > body pains > > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I > > > > > have > vague > > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I > > > > > feel > like I'm > > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be > > > > > dying " , > " there > > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. > Finally the > > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, > uncontrolled, > > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out > > > > > of my > heart. > > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, > > > > > burning > nerve > > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply > > > > > relaxed > and at > > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also > > > > > that of > relief, > > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts > earlier in > > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself > through the > > > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. > Here are > > > > > my questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's > > > > > protocol > help this? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, > > > > > with the emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 What frequencies have worked for you? Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you? On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote: > > > Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit > better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell > or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. > > > > > Am > eagerly > > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden > > > > > protocol > since > > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying > physical, > > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of > symptoms since > > > > > last November. > > > > > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain, > > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy > > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > > > -Headaches > > > > > -Jaw pain > > > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull > > > > > all-over > body pains > > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I > > > > > have > vague > > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I > > > > > feel > like I'm > > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be > > > > > dying " , > " there > > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. > Finally the > > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, > uncontrolled, > > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out > > > > > of my > heart. > > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, > > > > > burning > nerve > > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply > > > > > relaxed > and at > > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also > > > > > that of > relief, > > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts > earlier in > > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself > through the > > > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. > Here are > > > > > my questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's > > > > > protocol > help this? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, > > > > > with the emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 For the pain I did not use a frequency. I used  2 colonics a week up to 3 and colema or liver flush I read that someone got read of the pain by the frequency 880 Hoep this help Marie ________________________________ From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...> Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 9:04:57 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern  What frequencies have worked for you? Re: [ ] Re: Nerve Pain Relief & Weird Pattern What is the lithium orate supposed to do for you? On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, paige <paigegj@...> wrote: > > > Yes. I've just started the lithium orate. Have started to feel a bit > better the last few days. It's like emerging from the depths of hell > or a near death event. The emotional symptoms almost did me in. Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to the Buhner protocol, just ordered the book today. > > > > > Am > eagerly > > > > > awaiting it. In the meantime, I've been on the Lee Cowden > > > > > protocol > since > > > > > 2007. I've made some good progress addressing the underlying > physical, > > > > > emotional and spiritual issues but have had a severe flare of > symptoms since > > > > > last November. > > > > > > > > > > Right now my main symptoms are neurological. They are: > > > > > > > > > > -Hot, burning skin sensations all over -Nerve pain, > > > > > paresthesias and itching -Sore tendons and joints -Sleepy > > > > > sensations -Sore soles, especially in a.m. > > > > > -Headaches > > > > > -Jaw pain > > > > > -Profound anxiety > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed a VERY strange pattern. I have deep, dull > > > > > all-over > body pains > > > > > and stiffness that escalate throughout the day. Meanwhile, I > > > > > have > vague > > > > > anxiety that builds throughout the day to the point where I > > > > > feel > like I'm > > > > > going to have a nervous breakdown. Thoughts like " I must be > > > > > dying " , > " there > > > > > is no way out of this " , " I just want to leave this world " , etc. > Finally the > > > > > emotional symptoms erupt and I usually start crying deep, > uncontrolled, > > > > > racking sobs that feel like they are pouring/melting deep out > > > > > of my > heart. > > > > > Once this happens, the body pains turn to all-over sharp, > > > > > burning > nerve > > > > > pains. The pain is horrible, but the body now feels deeply > > > > > relaxed > and at > > > > > peace, like a " wet noodle. " The emotional symptoms are also > > > > > that of > relief, > > > > > peace, even joy; a complete 180 degrees from the dark thoughts > earlier in > > > > > the day. Luckily I've noted this pattern and can talk myself > through the > > > > > tougher emotions. > > > > > > > > > > From what I've read, this sounds like Bartonella, but who knows. > Here are > > > > > my questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Any non-Rx suggestions for nerve pain? Does Buhner's > > > > > protocol > help this? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone experienced a pattern of symptoms like this, > > > > > with the emotional release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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