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What is involved with " general detoxing. " ? I've been herxing for 3 weeks (it

started after 2 weeks on first ABx treatment, when I began taking long hot

showers daily--a recommendation I found in a research paper). The treatment was

Doxcycline for 30 days & Cat's Claw (integrative MD).? These are the most

intense symptoms I've had since it all began 5 1/2 years ago!? So I cut back on

the Cat's Claw (Samento) which I was taking a lot of.?? I'm taking a lot of Vit.

C and Alka Seltzer C.? I have charcoal tabs but haven't used many.

Kim

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I would also like to add that herxing can be minimized if you also do plenty

of general detoxing

to flush out the debris and toxins.

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I heard that alinia works the same as flagyl but has less side effects? Is that

true or does flagyl do something that alinia doesn't? I just heard flagyl has

some particularly nasty side effects.

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If you do take Flagyl again, see if you can start on a really low dose and

gradually work up in order to minimize herxing.

Good luck!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Janet Ring <janet.ring@...> wrote:

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>

> About 25 years ago, I took a course of Flagyl, after which (and the key

> word

> here is " after " ) I experienced a severe " mystery " illness, which my current

> LLMD now thinks was my first herx. (I was not diagnosed with Lyme until

> March '07.)

>

> I was extremely weak to the point of not being able to do much of anything

> except lie down all day-so weak at times that I could not speak. Just the

> effort to get the words from my brain to my mouth was too much energy, if

> you can imagine that. During the weak spells, I felt like I was " sinking " .

> There was also an episode of feeling as if I was on hallucinogenics, there

> were tachycardia attacks where my heart would race to 150 bpm. I would wake

> out of sleep with a start (probably a rush of adrenaline), so I was not

> able

> to sleep at all until I was prescribed something for sleep. During this

> time, I had many blood tests and all of them were normal (of course, they

> didn't do one for Lyme). At one point, I remember having to be taken into

> the doctor's office in a wheelchair, too weak to walk, and having the

> doctor

> tell me that there was nothing wrong with me, that my blood tests showed

> nothing. It took a long time to get my energy back, using natural healing

> methods.

>

> Now, as part of my Lyme treatment, my LLMD wants me to take Flagyl. I have

> avoided that med for 25 years. What I'd like to know is if anyone has had

> similar episodes AFTER taking Flagyl or during the course of taking Flagyl.

>

>

> Thank you,

>

> Janet

>

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Thanks for all the good suggestions. I need to check my starting dose to see

what it is. Then I'll talk to the doctor about starting out slower.

At this point, I've been on Bicillin for six months and was feeling so good.

But my LLMD and I discussed the fact that the spirochetes can go into cyst

form or be hidden within biofilm. We agreed to add the Flagyl to kill off

any of these " hidden " spirochetes. I want them out of my brain and not

embedded in any of my other organ tissues!

The only issue with detoxing is that the homeopathic detox kit I bought

(which has been working well) has alcohol in the remedies. It's a trace

amount, but on the Flagyl container it says to not drink (which I don't do

anyway) and watch for any alcohol that might be contained in other things.

So I might have to discontinue using the detox kit. I'll consult with my

LLMD first.

Janet

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> I heard that alinia works the same as flagyl but has less side

effects? Is that true or does flagyl do something that alinia doesn't?

I just heard flagyl has some particularly nasty side effects.

>

> Thanks

I think you mean Tindamax? Or Tinidazole? Some tolerate it better.

My son did 14 days of Alinia. One of the hardest meds he has taken.

Best,

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> I just started buhner and abx a month ago, I took flagyl for the first time

along with cef on friday, I am only supposed to take flagyl three days a

week...my cognition completely bottomed out I am still out of it cognitively

today...anyone else have this on flagyl..

If you just started on ABX and are a chronic Lymie, it is important to start

slowly with the flagyl (and not with the maximum dose right away, you could land

in the emergency room).

I have used flagyl continuously for several months, and it is used for other

medical issues on a continuous basis without know adverse effects. But usually

with lyme it is suggested to use flagyl e.g. half a week on, half a week off, or

ten days on and ten days off. Best to stick to what your doctor recommends.

I think the pulsed use is mostly because flagyl is potentially carcinogenic.

Flagyl is used as a cyst buster, using it form time to time instead of

continuously should be OK and just as effective.

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