Re: OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

[Guest guest]

I got my ozone generator from Doctor Saul :

plasmafire.com

I can do everything I want with it saved my companion kidnys with iv , do im now

fo rme every day ozonated water cuping and Dct Sauls has alway been extremly

helpfull to us

answering to any question finding effective ways to help with what was availble

to us without prescription . I cannot say enought good thing about him He still

helps me for my friends I like to help as a volonteer and always tell me what to

do for them he is a ral tenderness for humanity the way I see what a Doctor s

mission is .

for silver I took the silvergen because i had no way to get a battery at this

time I think they are all equivalents th eone that are recommanded here by other

people . The ppm meter helped me to reconize what was a usable distilled water

and what was not .Sivergen did answere my question when I wa sin dought by email

and by telephonne

Only the coil ( from )could go throuhgt th ebone to my medullar chord to

help my paralysis but if you do no thave such a bad case others will do .

 

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From: blymielymie <blymielymie@...>

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 7:46:08 PM

Subject: [ ] OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

 

Hi Folks

My husband and I are looking at purchasing an ozone water generator, Rife

machine and Colloidal Silver generator.

Which would you recommend, why, brand and where did you buy it? I appreciate any

help with this.

Thank you

Jaye

[Guest guest]

We bought a Meissner Industries DP100. My wife and a group of local friends

are all using it and reporting their Chronic Lyme in remission. We also got

the Meissner Industries CS generator.

I have information about this and also about the myriad of other machines

and protocols people are using on my free Lyme resource computer CD. See

below for how to get a copy.

www.lyme-resource.com

You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

> [ ] OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

>

> Hi Folks

>

> My husband and I are looking at purchasing an ozone water

> generator, Rife machine and Colloidal Silver generator.

>

> Which would you recommend, why, brand and where did you buy

> it? I appreciate any help with this.

>

> Thank you

> Jaye

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme

> Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Buhner at one of

> these locations:

> http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much . I forgot I had downloaded your info. Will go read.

How wonderful of you to do all this work and help those with lyme.

Jaye

On Mar 11, 2011, at 11:10 AM, " " <msadams@...> wrote:

> We bought a Meissner Industries DP100. My wife and a group of local friends

> are all using it and reporting their Chronic Lyme in remission. We also got

> the Meissner Industries CS generator.

>

> I have information about this and also about the myriad of other machines

> and protocols people are using on my free Lyme resource computer CD. See

> below for how to get a copy.

>

>

> www.lyme-resource.com

> You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

>

>

>

>> [ ] OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

>>

>> Hi Folks

>>

>> My husband and I are looking at purchasing an ozone water

>> generator, Rife machine and Colloidal Silver generator.

>>

>> Which would you recommend, why, brand and where did you buy

>> it? I appreciate any help with this.

>>

>> Thank you

>> Jaye

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme

>> Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Buhner at one of

>> these locations:

>> http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I agree, thank you so much !!

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Blymielymie <blymielymie@...> wrote:

>

>

> Thank you so much . I forgot I had downloaded your info. Will go read.

> How wonderful of you to do all this work and help those with lyme.

>

> Jaye

>

> On Mar 11, 2011, at 11:10 AM, " " <msadams@...> wrote:

>

> > We bought a Meissner Industries DP100. My wife and a group of local

> friends

> > are all using it and reporting their Chronic Lyme in remission. We also

> got

> > the Meissner Industries CS generator.

> >

> > I have information about this and also about the myriad of other machines

> > and protocols people are using on my free Lyme resource computer CD. See

> > below for how to get a copy.

> >

> >

> > www.lyme-resource.com

> > You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

> >

> >

> >

> >> [ ] OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

> >>

> >> Hi Folks

> >>

> >> My husband and I are looking at purchasing an ozone water

> >> generator, Rife machine and Colloidal Silver generator.

> >>

> >> Which would you recommend, why, brand and where did you buy

> >> it? I appreciate any help with this.

> >>

> >> Thank you

> >> Jaye

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >> Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme

> >> Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Buhner at one of

> >> these locations:

> >> http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

>blymielymie

>looking at purchasing...Rife machine

My notes on Rife machines for Lyme:

“always combine electromagnetic interventions, using specific microbial

inhibition frequencies [KMT frequency-based biofield treatment] with the

appropriate herb, antibiotic or other antimicrobial strategyâ€

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/04/Dr-Klinghardts-Tre\

atment-of-Lyme-Disease.aspx

" frequency therapy with precisely the correct frequency (called the mortal

oscillatory rate or MOR) can be very effective against most microbes. The trick

is determining the correct MOR. And as microbes mutate their MOR changes, so

empiric frequency therapy using a library of published frequencies can fail

dismally. I have developed BioSurveys on the Zyto-LSA-Pro to determine the MOR

for the primary microbes of a patient and I have taught some courses how to do

that which are available on www.academycim.com " Lee Cowden, M.D., 8/10/10

" My wife combines CS [colloidal silver] with Rife treatments...been doing very

well for her. We have a number of local friends...emulating her protocol and

they also are all reporting remission...DP100 by Meissner industries "

, msadams@..., 10/11/10,

/message/17132

ProWave model 101 (Rife machine)†" my colleague has had great results treating

her Lyme and has read other good things about it for Lyme.

BCX Ultra ($2700; www.bioelectricsforhealth.com/bcxlymecombdoc.html)

used by Dr. Korn (who’s excellent at treating Lyme)

A friend of mine posted the following on a listserv 5/5/09 re: the BCX Ultra:

“It cured mine, my 18-year-old son's and my sister's Lyme disease (plus

hundreds of others that the practitioner and distributor has sold the machine

to). I had babesiosa, another tick-born illness along with the Lyme (considered

very difficult to treat), which the machine handled just fine.

The distributor of the machine I bought gives a money back plus $100 dollar

guarantee for both Lyme and herpes. If it doesn't work in 60 days, get [back

almost all of] your money. He says in all the years he's been selling machines,

no one has ever asked for their money back. In only one case of Lyme, it didn't

totally eliminate it for a woman with chronic Lyme, but she felt it was so much

better than it was that she kept the machine and didn't ask for her money back.

Everyone else, even chronic sufferers (as my sister was, undiagnosed for over a

year), it worked like magic.

Treatments take 1/2 hour to an hour every other day until symptoms disappear -

in two to four weeks - then tapering off to every week then every 10 days to 2

weeks. It has also worked for me and my kids for urinary tract infections,

candida, mono, sore throats, and other minor ailments. Also, this was the first

winter of my entire life since I was a child that I didn't have a severe cough,

bronchitis, or pneumonia.

Of all the research I did, and I did lots, I never read anything that indicated

anything harmful about the machine. It either works or it doesn't, but there are

no harmful effects. For Lyme and herpes especially, with the BCX Ultra, it works

pretty consistently.

My son, my sister, and I are the only people I know who tackled Lyme disease

without antibiotics. My son felt so much better after a week of using the BCS

Ultra (no more flu symptoms, tiredness, achy muscles), he decided not to do

antibiotics. He has had a few bouts of recurrent symptoms when he fails to use

the machine for a few weeks or a month (it is recommended to continue using it

at least every 10 days to 2 weeks for 6 months to a year) but as soon as he gets

back on the machine, they go away and he's fine again.

My sister tested negative for Lyme and spent a year getting worse and worse -

sore muscles, earaches, tiredness, facial paralysis. She did the rife machine

and after a week said, `I can lift my purse for the first time in over a year.'

She was soon playing tennis again, and having more energy than she ever had, and

all her symptoms were (and are) gone.

I did other alternative treatments, like immune-boosting herbs/foods, vegan

diet, exercise, but the rife machine really zapped my Lyme disease almost

immediately, and most effectively. My son didn't do much for alternatives except

[samento] and vegan diet, and my sister didn't do anything different but the

rife machine. It was pretty clear to me that the rife machine was the best

treatment. "

She wrote 5/17/09:

“in the _Rife Frequency Handbook_, by Nina Silver, she talks about people

buying two machines to use both the ray tubes (Royal Rife's original design) and

the electrodes (a newer invention). The BCX Ultra is the only machine that has

both….

I am very confident this machine works on Lyme disease, and it doesn't take a

year (just a few weeks or less), BUT it is recommended to continue treatments

for 6 months to a year….I've been healthier than I've ever been in my life

since treating Lyme disease. I haven't even had a cold or flu or anything in

almost a year, I need less sleep than I used to, I have more energy.â€

My recollection is that there’s a $270 “restocking fee,†so it sounds like

they’re really offering your money back MINUS $170 (but check w/the company

for their current return policy).

Although there are other good brands of Rife machines, the effectiveness of

various brands varies greatly.

For more info on Rife machines and Lyme,

http://health.dir./group/Lyme_and_Rife

lyme_rife/

For a book on Rife for Lyme,

www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner

Leonard

[Guest guest]

>

> " frequency therapy with precisely the correct frequency (called the mortal

oscillatory rate or MOR) can be very effective against most microbes. The trick

is determining the correct MOR. And as microbes mutate their MOR changes, so

empiric frequency therapy using a library of published frequencies can fail

dismally. I have developed BioSurveys on the Zyto-LSA-Pro to determine the MOR

for the primary microbes of a patient and I have taught some courses how to do

that which are available on www.academycim.com " Lee Cowden, M.D., 8/10/10

It all sounds very scientific, but it has nothing to do with science and there

is no scientific way to determine the 'MOR' of a bug. I wonder how they verified

these MOR mutations, does Lee Cowden do full DNA sequencing on Borrelia's to

verify this? Don't think so ...

I'm not saying Rife doesn't work, just that stuff like above is pure marketing

and NOT science. YMMV.

[Guest guest]

Wrong. I had giardia of the eye and gall bladder/gut. My rife got it. I am free

now of gall bladder issues. My eye feels very differently. My gut is cleaned

up. Wrong. Lymeover

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[ ] Re: OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

>

> " frequency therapy with precisely the correct frequency (called the mortal

oscillatory rate or MOR) can be very effective against most microbes. The trick

is determining the correct MOR. And as microbes mutate their MOR changes, so

empiric frequency therapy using a library of published frequencies can fail

dismally. I have developed BioSurveys on the Zyto-LSA-Pro to determine the MOR

for the primary microbes of a patient and I have taught some courses how to do

that which are available on www.academycim.com " Lee Cowden, M.D., 8/10/10

It all sounds very scientific, but it has nothing to do with science and there

is no scientific way to determine the 'MOR' of a bug. I wonder how they verified

these MOR mutations, does Lee Cowden do full DNA sequencing on Borrelia's to

verify this? Don't think so ...

I'm not saying Rife doesn't work, just that stuff like above is pure marketing

and NOT science. YMMV.

[Guest guest]

Try photon genie. I know how to save $100. On genie. I use everynght. Lymeover

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[ ] Re: OT: Ozone Water, Rife, CS

>blymielymie

>looking at purchasing...Rife machine

My notes on Rife machines for Lyme:

“always combine electromagnetic interventions, using specific microbial

inhibition frequencies [KMT frequency-based biofield treatment] with the

appropriate herb, antibiotic or other antimicrobial strategyâ€

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/04/Dr-Klinghardts-Tre\

atment-of-Lyme-Disease.aspx

" frequency therapy with precisely the correct frequency (called the mortal

oscillatory rate or MOR) can be very effective against most microbes. The trick

is determining the correct MOR. And as microbes mutate their MOR changes, so

empiric frequency therapy using a library of published frequencies can fail

dismally. I have developed BioSurveys on the Zyto-LSA-Pro to determine the MOR

for the primary microbes of a patient and I have taught some courses how to do

that which are available on www.academycim.com " Lee Cowden, M.D., 8/10/10

" My wife combines CS [colloidal silver] with Rife treatments...been doing very

well for her. We have a number of local friends...emulating her protocol and

they also are all reporting remission...DP100 by Meissner industries "

, msadams@..., 10/11/10,

/message/17132

ProWave model 101 (Rife machine)†" my colleague has had great results treating

her Lyme and has read other good things about it for Lyme.

BCX Ultra ($2700; www.bioelectricsforhealth.com/bcxlymecombdoc.html)

used by Dr. Korn (who’s excellent at treating Lyme)

A friend of mine posted the following on a listserv 5/5/09 re: the BCX Ultra:

“It cured mine, my 18-year-old son's and my sister's Lyme disease (plus

hundreds of others that the practitioner and distributor has sold the machine

to). I had babesiosa, another tick-born illness along with the Lyme (considered

very difficult to treat), which the machine handled just fine.

The distributor of the machine I bought gives a money back plus $100 dollar

guarantee for both Lyme and herpes. If it doesn't work in 60 days, get [back

almost all of] your money. He says in all the years he's been selling machines,

no one has ever asked for their money back. In only one case of Lyme, it didn't

totally eliminate it for a woman with chronic Lyme, but she felt it was so much

better than it was that she kept the machine and didn't ask for her money back.

Everyone else, even chronic sufferers (as my sister was, undiagnosed for over a

year), it worked like magic.

Treatments take 1/2 hour to an hour every other day until symptoms disappear -

in two to four weeks - then tapering off to every week then every 10 days to 2

weeks. It has also worked for me and my kids for urinary tract infections,

candida, mono, sore throats, and other minor ailments. Also, this was the first

winter of my entire life since I was a child that I didn't have a severe cough,

bronchitis, or pneumonia.

Of all the research I did, and I did lots, I never read anything that indicated

anything harmful about the machine. It either works or it doesn't, but there are

no harmful effects. For Lyme and herpes especially, with the BCX Ultra, it works

pretty consistently.

My son, my sister, and I are the only people I know who tackled Lyme disease

without antibiotics. My son felt so much better after a week of using the BCS

Ultra (no more flu symptoms, tiredness, achy muscles), he decided not to do

antibiotics. He has had a few bouts of recurrent symptoms when he fails to use

the machine for a few weeks or a month (it is recommended to continue using it

at least every 10 days to 2 weeks for 6 months to a year) but as soon as he gets

back on the machine, they go away and he's fine again.

My sister tested negative for Lyme and spent a year getting worse and worse -

sore muscles, earaches, tiredness, facial paralysis. She did the rife machine

and after a week said, `I can lift my purse for the first time in over a year.'

She was soon playing tennis again, and having more energy than she ever had, and

all her symptoms were (and are) gone.

I did other alternative treatments, like immune-boosting herbs/foods, vegan

diet, exercise, but the rife machine really zapped my Lyme disease almost

immediately, and most effectively. My son didn't do much for alternatives except

[samento] and vegan diet, and my sister didn't do anything different but the

rife machine. It was pretty clear to me that the rife machine was the best

treatment. "

She wrote 5/17/09:

“in the_Rife Frequency Handbook_, by Nina Silver, she talks about people

buying two machines to use both the ray tubes (Royal Rife's original design) and

the electrodes (a newer invention). The BCX Ultra is the only machine that has

both….

I am very confident this machine works on Lyme disease, and it doesn't take a

year (just a few weeks or less), BUT it is recommended to continue treatments

for 6 months to a year….I've been healthier than I've ever been in my life

since treating Lyme disease. I haven't even had a cold or flu or anything in

almost a year, I need less sleep than I used to, I have more energy.â€

My recollection is that there’s a $270 “restocking fee,†so it sounds like

they’re really offering your money back MINUS $170 (but check w/the company

for their current return policy).

Although there are other good brands of Rife machines, the effectiveness of

various brands varies greatly.

For more info on Rife machines and Lyme,

http://health.dir./group/Lyme_and_Rife

lyme_rife/

For a book on Rife for Lyme,

www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner

Leonard

[Guest guest]

>

> Wrong. I had giardia of the eye and gall bladder/gut. My rife got it. I am

free now of gall bladder issues. My eye feels very differently. My gut is

cleaned up. Wrong.

you didn't bother to read my message, and jumped to the defense right away.

I did NOT say it doesn't work. I just say the text is scientific nonsense. I'm

mentioning this because I get really annoyed by the huge amount of nonsense that

is spread regarding alternative treatments. This severely damages the

credibility of lyme patients towards the medical and scientific community, and

makes it more difficult to change the current situation.

If someone thinks Rife works, I'm not going to dispute that - it just might even

if we don't understand why. But don't add the silly pseudo-scientific nonsense

to give it a certain 'credibility'. If it works, the result should speak for

itself.