Reality check

[Guest guest]

Sounds to me like you were spooked by the system. Also confirms that you

never really understood the dissident argument. And it's not my theory. It

isn't theory. It's fact backed by thousands of intelligent, often prominent,

people. The theory was that HIV killed t-cells leading to a breakdown of the

immune system. Even quack Gallo, who proposed the theory and started

the madness, later admitted he was wrong. The virus didn't kill t-cells.

Not to mention that the biggest orthodox studies ever done, confirm what anyone

who has studied human physiology should have known in the first place, that

" t-cells are not a valid surrogate marker for health or disease progression

in AIDS. " Just like antibodies do not predict death or disease.

I think you had to be living in constant fear for those 3-4 years that you

were watching t-cells and viral loads (of crap). And I imagine you were

flooding your body with all sorts of so-called " holistic " cures -- which further

stressed and overloaded your immune system resulting in swollen lymph nodes.

But you're right. We're all different -- at least in how we act and the

decisions we make. Had it been me (and I once had a painful pea-sized lump in

the lymph node under one arm) I would have spent at least 15 minutes of every

waking hour on the rebounder if necessary. As it was, just doing one 45

minute session a day was enough to make the lump disappear in less than 3 days.

I am hardly unique. 's book has testimonials from dozens of

people. Her web site had hundreds of letters of gratitude. HEAL has heard

from

people all over the world who confirm that " AIDS " is only always fatal if you

follow the medical advise. You don't need medical studies to confirm that no

one is living longer or better than those of us who rejected the merchants of

death and their snake oils.

Ed

In a message dated 5/8/2005 11:53:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,

freelightexpress@... writes:

)========== Ed,........I went in to the clinic after my poz diagnosis and

monitored my blood work for 3 - 4 years.....just for my own info.(seeing

my dr. there for only basic health care as I figured I would be just fine

without conventional therapy). I refused meds this whole time....although

since my t-cells were always below 200....my dr. always advised

them...although he respected my decision to refuse. Anyways.....it wasnt

until after or during the Lymphoma that I decided to begin conventional

treatment as t-cells went down to 25 and vl went to its highest ever.

Yep,...i'd say that was a 'real' health problem. Went thru surgery to

remove tumor and then 6 rounds of chemo as more began to develop (most of

the cancer was in axillary lymph nodes under arms). I've covered my story

before.

Thats great Ed, that you are illness free. Everyones case is different.

Also you do not get your blood work done..and dont touch doctors with a

10 ft. pole....so we cant really assess your situation relative or in

comparison to those of us who do.(hello!) So its your word/theory vs.

everyone elses. We all have our 'own' story. That reminds me....need to

start rebounding more. (been slackin!).

paul

[Guest guest]

Ed:

I do agree with you on the rebounder, it is good therapy.

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Re: reality check

Sounds to me like you were spooked by the system. Also confirms that you

never really understood the dissident argument. And it's not my theory.

It isn't theory. It's fact backed by thousands of intelligent, often

prominent, people. The theory was that HIV killed t-cells leading to a

breakdown of the immune system. Even quack Gallo, who proposed the

theory and started the madness, later admitted he was wrong. The virus

didn't kill t-cells.

Not to mention that the biggest orthodox studies ever done, confirm what

anyone who has studied human physiology should have known in the first

place, that " t-cells are not a valid surrogate marker for health or disease

progression

in AIDS. " Just like antibodies do not predict death or disease.

I think you had to be living in constant fear for those 3-4 years that you

were watching t-cells and viral loads (of crap). And I imagine you were

flooding your body with all sorts of so-called " holistic " cures -- which

further stressed and overloaded your immune system resulting in swollen

lymph nodes.

But you're right. We're all different -- at least in how we act and the

decisions we make. Had it been me (and I once had a painful pea-sized lump

in the lymph node under one arm) I would have spent at least 15 minutes of

every waking hour on the rebounder if necessary. As it was, just doing one

45 minute session a day was enough to make the lump disappear in less than 3

days.

I am hardly unique. 's book has testimonials from dozens of

people. Her web site had hundreds of letters of gratitude. HEAL has heard

from people all over the world who confirm that " AIDS " is only always fatal

if you follow the medical advise. You don't need medical studies to

confirm that no one is living longer or better than those of us who rejected

the merchants of death and their snake oils.

Ed

In a message dated 5/8/2005 11:53:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,

freelightexpress@... writes:

)========== Ed,........I went in to the clinic after my poz diagnosis and

monitored my blood work for 3 - 4 years.....just for my own info.(seeing my

dr. there for only basic health care as I figured I would be just fine

without conventional therapy). I refused meds this whole time....although

since my t-cells were always below 200....my dr. always advised

them...although he respected my decision to refuse. Anyways.....it wasnt

until after or during the Lymphoma that I decided to begin conventional

treatment as t-cells went down to 25 and vl went to its highest ever.

Yep,...i'd say that was a 'real' health problem. Went thru surgery to

remove tumor and then 6 rounds of chemo as more began to develop (most of

the cancer was in axillary lymph nodes under arms). I've covered my story

before.

Thats great Ed, that you are illness free. Everyones case is different.

Also you do not get your blood work done..and dont touch doctors with a 10

ft. pole....so we cant really assess your situation relative or in

comparison to those of us who do.(hello!) So its your word/theory vs.

everyone elses. We all have our 'own' story. That reminds me....need to

start rebounding more. (been slackin!).

paul

[Guest guest]

>I went in for a mammogram (such fun!) yesterday

Congrats on getting there. I'm a bit overdue myself.

>The first reality check came when a young woman in her late 30's asked if

if

the stairs were okay (about 8 steps) or if we needed to take the elevator.

Groan! Do I really look that bad that she thought I couldn't do 8 steps?

That's no tit. SO many people these days would *rather* take an elevator

than walk a few steps, no matter what their appearance or age. Only 2 of the

elementary schools in our city have elevators, so they're the ones the

handicapped kids get sent to. The school has to keep the elevators locked

and give the aides keys to use when needed because all the regular kids were

using the elevators between classes, even to go down one flight of stairs.

>Then...when it came time for the bone density test, she informed me (in a

very nice way I must say) that I weighed too much (330) for the machine. The

table only goes up to 300 pounds maximum.

Our hospital and local x-ray center purposely bought equipment that fit up

to around 500 pounds as they replaced old stuff throughout the years. So

many people just can't or won't go into a closed MRI machine because of the

closeness of it or the noise, not just because of the size, that they didn't

even bother with the old-fashioned type but went straight for the open MRI

machines. It's the fault of the x-ray place, not you, that they don't have

the right equipment to fit the majority of the people who use them.

>I do too much fast food; there are 10 places within a mile of my house.

We have even more than that, but the kid is the only one who eats at any of

them. You're going to have to learn some cooking tricks and make more meals

from scratch at home. Look around the once a month cooking web sites for

recipe ideas. Invest in a crockpot and pressure cooker so you spend less

time cooking when you get home. Have others in the family do as much as they

can to prepare even part of the meal if they get home before you. You just

can't do it all yourself and not go nuts!

>I just don't have much time for cooking. I need to take more time, make it

a

priority.

Whichever weekend day you do your grocery shopping, be sure to do as much

food prep as you can. Take the time to wash all the fruit and veggies, make

the rice, soup, casseroles ahead of time and reheat during the week. most of

all, plan your meals ahead of time. Trying to decide what to eat as you walk

in the door after a long day of work just doesn't work when trying to eat

healthy. Once a week sit down with your cookbooks and plan out every night's

dinner, add the ingredients you need to your shopping list and make sure you

buy everything you need before the week starts so you don't have an excuse

to hit the drive-though.

> I realize this. I just don't do it.

Isn't that always the way? We *know* what needs to be done, just don't *do*

it, for whatever reason.

>I also have diabetes.a1c of 6.5 so it's not awful *yet*.

All the more reason to take better care of yourself. And not just with the

food - be sure to get enough exercise in. Not only will it help your weight,

but your stamina, your blood sugar readings, helps you sleep at night, and

all that good stuff. I know it's *very* hard, nearly impossible, to get a

daily workout in when working full time, but maybe you can steal a few

minutes during your lunch break to get some walking in, or do all the old

dieters' tricks, such as parking further away form the door, taking stairs

instead of elevators, etc. And keep a light weight near the tv so when

catching up on the nightly news you can get some upper body workout done.

You CAN do it!

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Re: Reality Check

>I went in for a mammogram (such fun!) yesterdayCongrats on getting there. I'm a bit overdue myself.I've only had 2 in my life and the second one showed a spot they though may have been breast cancer. I have to admit it scared me to death. I went back in for a second test and it showed clear. Said my breast tissue must not have been compressed good. >The first reality check came when a young woman in her late 30's asked ififthe stairs were okay (about 8 steps) or if we needed to take the elevator.Groan! Do I really look that bad that she thought I couldn't do 8 steps?In all reality I have seen some people who looked as if they would expire when going up only a few steps.The lady probably seen her fair share of these people.>Then...when it came time for the bone density test, she informed me (in avery nice way I must say) that I weighed too much (330) for the machine. Thetable only goes up to 300 pounds maximum.Don't you just hate that. I know when you get too big for all the standard equipement, seats, clothes etc....It is truly a wake up call. Like I have said before one of my most horrible moments was going to buy jeans at wal-mart and realize I was buying the largest in the store and they was a tight fit.And last year at my granddaughter t ball games we had lawn chairs to sit in and the chair had a capacity or like 200 pounds. So I was taking a chance sitting in it.This last year I have had too many of these wake up calls. Thats when I joined the group.>I do too much fast food; there are 10 places within a mile of my house.We have even more than that, but the kid is the only one who eats at any ofthem. You're going to have to learn some cooking tricks and make more mealsfrom scratch at home. Look around the once a month cooking web sites forrecipe ideas. Invest in a crockpot and pressure cooker so you spend lesstime cooking when you get home. Have others in the family do as much as theycan to prepare even part of the meal if they get home before you. You justcan't do it all yourself and not go nuts!I cannot see myself living without my microwave, a crock pot , and a pressure cooker. It does make meal cooking so much easier and faster. I have a feature on my oven where I can set it to kick on at a certain time and cook for a set period of time so you can put your meal in before leaving for work and it would be done cooked and waiting on you when you walk in the door but I'm afraid to use it. LOL I fear it will malfunction and burn my house down.> I realize this. I just don't do it.Isn't that always the way? We *know* what needs to be done, just don't *do*it, for whatever reason.Now see, this is something worth studying....If the goverment wants to waste all our money on stupid studies that don't amount to a hill of beans, then this one would help people. We all do this. When I exercise daily I feel so good. I sleep good that night. I have more energy, I don't get so winded walking but yet its always a struggle to just do it. It don't make sense as to why I'm not busting my butt to get out there and exercise.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/25/2006 6:40:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, mparker72@... writes:

I don't post often but felt the need today.

No wonder I don't recognise your name. Nice to e-meet you (re-meet? LOL)

I went in for a mammogram (such fun!) yesterday and a bone density test.

Been there, done that (mammogram) and am signed up for a bone density at Curves next month....

..... I need to start taking my BS readings regularly and GET BACK WITH IT.

Yes, you are a busy lady.... hang in there, take care of you!! You will be much better wife, mom, etc when you give yourself a few minutes each day....

[Guest guest]

I'm with Sue on this one--I'll bet it's a standard question.

Seriously, no one takes stairs anymore.

But along those lines, I have one for ya:

Yesterday I was at Home Depot and saw a man struggling to life a lawn

mower into the back of his truck, so offered to help him. I began to

lift it up with him (quite easily, I might add--I'm really strong, all

things considered) and this older gentleman practically ran over

yelling to put it down, that he'd help him instead. I was *fine*.

But he just about pushed me over to get his hands on it and all I can

think of is that it's because I look so out of shape

> Then...when it came time for the bone density test, she informed me

(in a

> very nice way I must say) that I weighed too much (330) for the

machine. The

> table only goes up to 300 pounds maximum.

Ugh...now this is the worst, isn't it? I was supposed to get

something done a while back (MRI? CAT scan?) and was informed I was

too big for their machine. *sigh* It wasn't really a wake up call

for me, though, it was more a reason to down another dozen donuts and

feel sorry for myself.

> That made my day. Groan. It made me realize, once again, that I need

to be

> serious about losing weight. I am so good at denial and eating whatever

> because of my crazy busy life.

Your life really does sound even busier than most people's. When most

people say that, I think, " Well, name someone whose life ISN'T busy? "

But you have a lot of your plate. Any chance you could get up 15

minutes earlier and just start out with a quick walk or something? I

don't really love getting up so early, but I *do* love that little bit

of time that is ALL MINE

I do too much fast food; there are 10 places

> within a mile of my house. Between working full time (9-6), being

involved

> in my church (2 nights a week), and caring for my 17 year old

asperger (high

> functiong autism)/bipolar/social anxiety challenged daughter, and

hubby. . .

> I just don't have much time for cooking. I need to take more time,

make it a

> priority.

Okay, so I would think that a slow cooker would be your best friend.

Um, you could get on recipezaar.com (I think?) and enter the kinds of

recipes you're looking for (low cal, low carb, low fat...chicken,

beef, etc) and come up with hundreds, if not thousands. What about

throwing meat onto a Foreman?

I have to admit, I used to be a fast food junkie. Then once I started

cooking at home (very simple stuff indeed...most nights just

sandwiches), I realized that dinner was ready at the same time (or

earlier) as it was when I was going with the fast food because I

wasn't waiting in line and stuff. *shrugs* And oh my gosh do I ever

feel better now that we don't eat out much.

On days you have to eat out, at least you could do something like

McD's Classic Grilled chicken sandwhich (no mayo)--it's 330 calories.

I do still go there from time to time...I just make sure I know the

calorie count of what I order.

Anyway, I hope you find a way to make yourself a priority! Looking

back, I now realize that EVERYONE (and every thing) came before me.

Well, I'm too young to be borderline diabetic and have high BP, so

that's what kicked my rear into gear.

Best of luck, no matter how you decide to approach it!

-Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Re: Reality Check

I'm with Sue on this one--I'll bet it's a standard question. Seriously, no one takes stairs anymore.But along those lines, I have one for ya:Yesterday I was at Home Depot and saw a man struggling to life a lawnmower into the back of his truck, so offered to help him. I began tolift it up with him (quite easily, I might add--I'm really strong, allthings considered) and this older gentleman practically ran overyelling to put it down, that he'd help him instead. I was *fine*. But he just about pushed me over to get his hands on it and all I canthink of is that it's because I look so out of shape :(Not really, My hubby is from the old school. He thinks if a man is around a woman shouldn't have to lift and tug or do "manual" labor such as mow a yard. He may have simply been a old nice gentleman with old school values such as opening the door for a woman.

[Guest guest]

Maralee I am sorry your reality check was so painful. Mine was about a month ago when I was diagnosed with High BP. Start a journal. I have started exercising but the weight stays the same. You have a complicated life so it is going to take time to change. BABY steps. By journaling or doing inventory you will be able to see the changes.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

[Guest guest]

I am sorry you had such a rough time. I hate when that happens. I always worry about fitting in machines and other things. They need to make things larger for those of us who are larger.

[Guest guest]

There are many LDN lists with great discussions going on, some

are disease specific, some are discussing dose and dosing

intervals for those who are having trouble adjusting, and

others

are general discussion. There is a list of email groups in

the links

section in the links section of the LDN Information List.

This is not

a discussion list but a resource list with files and links

on LDN.

LDN_Information

You might like the LDN Users list for a general list.

LDN_Users

Some people do not tolerate LDN as well as others. There are

doctors prescribing doses as low as 1.0 mg, Dr Bob Lawrence,

the first physician in the UK to prescribe LDN has 500 patients

on LDN. Dr Lawrence has said LDN is a very individual thing and

requires fine tuning in each patient.

Dr Bihari's approach and observations were developed mostly

in MS patients, but also in HIV and Cancer. Over time more

information has come to light as LDN is used for a greater

variety

of diseases and reports of patient experiences have increased

since Dr Bihari early ground breaking work with LDN. The

minimum effective dose may not be 1.75, it may be less. There

is no proof either way, only patient reports, which of

course are

not the same as dose response studies.

For some starting at a very low dose is an attempt to adjust and

avoid severe side effects, while working up to an effective

dose. It's not that they think the very low doses are going

to be

their optimal dose or even a therapeutic dose. It's a matter

of easing

into the use of LDN in any amount. Thankfully very few people

are this sensitive.

If you have a problem with these concepts or viewpoints it might

be helpful for you to listen to some people's stories and

what they have gone through to adjust to LDN. Some have

started at 4.5 and worked very hard to adjust their dose to a

tolerable level, and many do eventually work up successfully,

but it takes more time for some and a lower starting dose.

Garnet

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Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone

LDN_Information

Dr Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN

wrench3000 wrote:

> I've recently become a member of this group so that I may share my experiences

with L.D.N. (Low Dose Naltrexone, not Naloxone or any other drug) and possibly

learn more about this exciting drug which has apparently helped (or at least

stabilized, which is ALL that L.D.N. claims to do) a majority of those bold

enough to take it for whatever their ailment/condition may be. After years of

extensive workup by allopathic doctors and even the Mayo clinic being unable to

diagnose anything positively with me (I was told it's probably M.S.), I

navigated around a bunch of M.S. websites and became aggravated by the

commonality of people writing long winded, " woe as me " accounts of their

symptoms and yet offering no real substance or solutions. But, I digress.

>

> I discovered L.D.N. on my own and researched it as much as possible (through

the internet mostly) and decided to give it a try starting on 10/15/09. I take

3mg nightly (as directed by my doctor and www.low dose naltrexone.org, not .5 mg

or 2.27mg or 6mg or whatever else I see you people posting) and I keep a daily

record/journal of my deficits and rate them 1-10 accordingly. I've definitely

noticed improvement and actually over the last few days I've experienced brief

periods of feeling " normal " again. The reason I mention my journal is that it

may be a good idea for you to do the same, especially if you're just starting

L.D.N. therapy.

>

> Now, since joining this group about a week ago, I've received a few good

e-mails regarding signing petitions for L.D.N. trials and some good information

regarding vitamin D (even that topic has some ridiculous posts though). Thank

you for those! It's much appreciated!;D However, I find it very irritating to

receive these other posts asking things like, " Can I give L.D.N. to my

dog/cat/goldfish? " - Are you for real??? " I take .75mg of L.D.N. " - According to

low dose naltrexone.org, anything under 1.5mg is considered " ineffective " . Did you

even look at the infomation published on L.D.N.??? " I have side effects of

hunger, insomnia, hangnails, etc... " - If it's so bad, get off of L.D.N. and take

Tysabri or Solumedrol for god's sake and stop whining!!!

>

> I could keep going, but I'm trying to keep this as short as possible. My point

is, please think about what you are posting BEFORE you put it out there and ask

yourself " Can I find the answer to this " question " on my own somwhere? " !

>

> My apologies for coming off so abrasive, but it's very annoying to open my

inbox and have to weed through 60 or 70 " posts " that seem utterly ridiculous to

me. That being said, I welcome helpful and constructive input by the members

here, and I also hope to meet some of the wonderful and inspirationnal people in

this group! You are an inspiration to me just in the fact that you're wiling to

" shun " the status quo and " stand up " for what you believe is the right thing to

do!!! I truly hope L.D.N. helps you with any issues you may be facing.

>

> Dan

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

My symptoms are pretty intense and I'm wondering if they sound like Lyme

symptoms. They are:

Severe burning skin sensations (all over)

Painful nerve zaps/tingling (all over)

Traveling pains

Nerve pain that sometimes turns into itchy skin

Occasionally fingertips feel slightly numb and " chalky "

Painful tendons, muscles (i.e. palms, wrists)

Drowsy feeling in afternoon

Extremely sore soles, especially in a.m.(sometimes tops of feet too)

Weird frontal headache I've now had since Friday

Occasional slight nausea (seems to coincide with headache)

Upset, gurgling stomach

Sour, bitter taste

Traveling facial pressure and burning

Burning/stinging sensations in mouth/gums/eyes (sometimes even urine and stool

seem to " burn " )

Weird taste " zaps "

Agitation/depression/paralyzing anxiety/brain fog (when symptoms are the worst)

Sore eyeballs

Off/on stuffy nose

Increased lymph congestion around face / jaw

" Pounding heart " / heavy lungs sensation

Occasional palpitations

Increased sweating

The headache is one of the worst symptoms, it's right in the center of the

forehead but travels around occasionally. I wonder if it's sinus related, but

the pain doesn't get worse when I bend forward (as a sinus infection would). The

area around my temples, forehead and top of head are sore to gentle finger

pressure, as if the muscles underneath are inflammed.

I need a reality check as to whether these are Lyme symptoms, as I've got

several things going on here. The Lyme bugs and heavy metals attacked my

jawbone, resulting in bone infection, which can present with systemic symptoms.

Also I recently started the HPU/HKU supplementation protocol, which can prompt a

rapid body-wide release of heavy metals, microbes, etc. I also recently started

A-BART and rifing. In 2005 I tested + for Bb, Babesia, Erlichia, Bartonella. I

tested + for several strains of Bb, but the worst one was the neurological

strain prevalent in Europe. I have been on the Nutramedix protocol since 2007

but am switching to the Buhner program. I recognize that these symptoms could be

from these other issues, but do any of them sound like Lyme? It's hard to tell

what is what. I was doing really well until last November. Thanks in advance for

your replies. :-)

Paige

[Guest guest]

In response to Paige's question about symptoms. Sounds like there's a

number of things going on, for sure. I've been diagnosed with babesiosis,

Lyme, and bartonella though not ever through a definitively positive blood

test. Practitioners have told me that sore soles of the feet and painfully

dry eyes are symptoms of bartonella. Periodic sweats (along with what I

call tingling chills) are symptoms of Babesiosis, as is what is known as

" air hunger. " I know that headaches are common with Babesia as well, though

I've been fortunate not to have them.

My Lyme symptoms are mostly neurological; I've had sudden sharp nerve

pains (like being electrocuted) and I have constant neuropathy... tingling

and numbness in my lower legs and feet. I use to have numb hands, but that

stopped. My leg muscles are always problematic; it's hard to climb stairs

especially.

The one symptom my doctor is not sure of is the shortness of breath I

sometimes get whenever I do the least bit of exertion, especially climbing

steps. I've had pulmonary function tests and heart stress tests, but

they've found nothing. I don't understand most of this stuff, why it is,

but I just began re-reading Buhner's book and his explanation about collagen

tissue makes the most sense to me.

Blessings to you and to us all! ---- ette

--

ette Meier

www.lessonsongs.com

[Guest guest]

To help get the heavy metals out of the body I use this

http://www.magneticclay.com/productlist.php

Best,

Connie

[ ] Reality check

Hi everyone,

My symptoms are pretty intense and I'm wondering if they sound like Lyme

symptoms. They are:

Severe burning skin sensations (all over)

Painful nerve zaps/tingling (all over)

Traveling pains

Nerve pain that sometimes turns into itchy skin

Occasionally fingertips feel slightly numb and " chalky "

Painful tendons, muscles (i.e. palms, wrists)

Drowsy feeling in afternoon

Extremely sore soles, especially in a.m.(sometimes tops of feet too)

Weird frontal headache I've now had since Friday

Occasional slight nausea (seems to coincide with headache)

Upset, gurgling stomach

Sour, bitter taste

Traveling facial pressure and burning

Burning/stinging sensations in mouth/gums/eyes (sometimes even urine and stool

seem to " burn " )

Weird taste " zaps "

Agitation/depression/paralyzing anxiety/brain fog (when symptoms are the worst)

Sore eyeballs

Off/on stuffy nose

Increased lymph congestion around face / jaw

" Pounding heart " / heavy lungs sensation

Occasional palpitations

Increased sweating

The headache is one of the worst symptoms, it's right in the center of the

forehead but travels around occasionally. I wonder if it's sinus related, but

the pain doesn't get worse when I bend forward (as a sinus infection would). The

area around my temples, forehead and top of head are sore to gentle finger

pressure, as if the muscles underneath are inflammed.

I need a reality check as to whether these are Lyme symptoms, as I've got

several things going on here. The Lyme bugs and heavy metals attacked my

jawbone, resulting in bone infection, which can present with systemic symptoms.

Also I recently started the HPU/HKU supplementation protocol, which can prompt a

rapid body-wide release of heavy metals, microbes, etc. I also recently started

A-BART and rifing. In 2005 I tested + for Bb, Babesia, Erlichia, Bartonella. I

tested + for several strains of Bb, but the worst one was the neurological

strain prevalent in Europe. I have been on the Nutramedix protocol since 2007

but am switching to the Buhner program. I recognize that these symptoms could be

from these other issues, but do any of them sound like Lyme? It's hard to tell

what is what. I was doing really well until last November. Thanks in advance for

your replies. :-)

Paige